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Packed room watches as House panel passes three antiabortion measures

A House panel advanced a trio of antiabortion bills -- including one that would prevent a woman from terminating her pregnancy based on race or gender preferences -- past their first obstacles to becoming law by party-line votes on Tuesday.

The discussion in the House and Human Services Accesss Subcommittee was the first talk of abortion this legislative session and attracted a flood of supporters and opponents, including 40 people from a Brandon church and about a dozen pink-shirted abortion-rights advocates.

Rep. Scott Plakon, R-Longwood, said his proposal, HB 1327, would require physicians to sign affidavits that the abortion performed was not based on gender or racial discrimation. Doctors would be fined up to $10,000 for failing to report abortions based on these factors.

"This bill is really less about abortion; it's about discrimination and being consistent in how we oppose discrimination in this state," Plakon said.

Democrats were expectedly skeptical.

“This is perhaps one of the most disingenuous pieces of legislation that I’ve ever seen,” said Rep. Mark Pafford, D-West Palm Beach.

Rep. Jeff Clemens, D-Lake Worth, called the proposal a "clever smokescreen." He wanted to know how many race- and sex-selected abortions occur in Florida each years, numbers Plakon did not have. He said the practice is widely accepted in Chinese, Indian and Korean cultures.

"Now this isn't the type of situation where somebody goes and checks in with a statistician," Plakon said, "but I think to deny that this is occuring in our state would be naive."

A second measure heard Tuesday, HB 839, by Rep. Daniel Davis, R-Jacksonville, prohibits abortions after a fetus reaches 20 weeks, with exceptions for medical need or to save the life of the fetus, among other reporting requirements for physicians who perform abortions.

"I think this bill seeks to protect arguably the frailest members of our society from feeling pain, and that's the intent," he said.

After several opponents invoked Roe v. Wade and blasted further state regulation on abortion, Rep. Charles Van Zant, R-Keystone Heights, said the case did not give women unconstitional rights.

"Roe v. Wade was the most profound intrusion of government into the civil liberty of unborn Americans in this century," he said.

The final and most expansive measure, HB 277, sponsored by Rep. Rachel Burgin, R-Riverview, attracted the most personal testimony and debate. Her bill would extend the state's ban on abortions after the third trimester to, in the physician's best subject, when the fetus attains viability. It requires abortions performed after viability to be performed in a hospital. The proposal would require women to give their informed consent at least 24 hours before a procedure, which could require them to make two visits to a clinic before receiving the procedure.

Rep. Lori Berman, D-Delray Beach, had several problems with the legislation, including mandatory annual ethics training for physicians who perform abortions, requiring owners of abortion clinics to be physicians, and the informed consent change.

"This is just an effort to make it harder for women to obtain an abortion," she said.

Rep. Mike Horner, R-Kissimmee, countered, saying, “I don’t think that killing these children should be convenient."

Planned Parenthood lobbyist Emily Caponetti criticized the proposals for not doing anything to reduce unplanned pregnancies.

After an hour and a half of debate, Baxley told the crowd it wasn't easy for members to debate the abortion issue.

“I think we came here to do hard things,” said Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala, and committee chairman.

According to state numbers, there were 214,519 live births in Florida. There were 79,908 abortions performed in Florida. There are 68 licensed abortion clinics in Florida.

The Legislature passed five abortion-related restrictions on abortion in 2011, including a controversial requirement that women be asked if they wish to see an ultrasound of their child before an abortion.


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Ahhh..The Republicans....The party of small government!!!!

gale routh

the bible supported abortion, that was done by a priest, in god's name, in his holly temple!
the 1984 NIV footnote of numbers 5:11-31 explained what "to thy thigh to rot, they belly to swell" meant: numbers 5:21 "or causes you to have a miscarrying womb and barrenness" to CAUSE a miscarrying womb IS an abortion.

the judeo-christian god is a myth and historical evidence proves it.


gale routh


FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body.

as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death.


"The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms:
It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]"

"Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance."

"It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species."
http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things.

just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin

"an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it"

pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm

since a man can kill his tapeworm at anytime-- so should a woman abort unwanted, human-parasitic fetus, too.




NO HUMAN has a right to life or any due process rights by the 14th amendment to use another human's body or body parts AGAINST their will, civil and constitutional rights: that's why you are not forced to donate your kidney---the human fetus is no exception; this is supported by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment, which makes reproductive slavery unconstitutional.


consensual sex=/= a legal, binding contract to an unwanted fetus to live.


White men, bowing and scraping to their monied benefactors, ginning up hatred against pro choice (Democrat) voters. Do you really think these jerks care about women's reproductive rights? No. I guarantee you that there are women in their immediate circles and families who have taken advantage of their Constitutional rights. It's a Republican wedge issue, guaranteed to garner votes from the religious zealots. Period.


If I want an abortion I will get it someplace. Don't care where or if it is legal or not.

I have already done it once (birth control pill failed me) and I would do it again.

My body, my right to choose.

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