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Senate continues redistricting debate, tangled in district numbers

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As the Senate Redistricting Committee begins a second day of discussions on its rewritten maps, senators turned to the Florida Lottery to resolve their differences over how to number their districts.

The Florida Constitution requires staggered terms and elections in years with numbers that are multiples of four -- such as 2012 – for legislators in odd-numbered districts. In a reapportionment year, however, every district must have an election, so half the districts get a two-year term while the other half get a four-year term. Some will be winners, others losers.

Committee Chairman Don Gaetz, R-Niceville, suggested the Senate use a lottery-style system and had staff demonstrate how it would work, rolling in two tumblers that would be used to designate the random scheme. He said that Attorney General Pam Bondi had already agreed to conduct the drawing on the Senate floor. Sen. Jack Latvala, R-Clearwater, joked the Senate could sell advertising to help close the budget. But Sen. David Simmons commended the idea as excellent but objected to the show.

"We don't need Vanna White,'' he said, and suggested a "dignified drawing" be done in the privacy of the Senate secretary's office with independent monitors and recorded on video tape. "Your theory is excellent, I just suggest we adopt a system that is much more restrained."

Sen. Gwen Margolis, who as Senate president in 1992 asked the court to resolve a dispute over how to fix the Hillborough Senate districts, suggested they just let the court set the new district numbers. Sen. Eleanor Sobel, D-Hollywood, suggested that anyone who has already four years should get a four-year term. Sen. Maria Sachs, D-Delray Beach,  warned that be careful not to refer to the districts as owned by members.

"These are not member districts these are districts,'' she said. "They don’t belong to anybody and the issue with the court is that member districts may not be favored one way or the other."

Sen. Gwen Margolis, who as Senate president in 1992 asked the court to resolve a dispute over how to fix the Hillborough Senate districts, suggested they just let the court set the new district numbers. Sen. Eleanor Sobel, D-Hollywood, suggested that anyone who has already qualified to run get the four-year term. Sen. Maria Sachs, D-Delray Beach,  warned that be careful not to refer to the districts as owned by members.

"These are not member districts these are districts,'' she said. "They don’t belong to anybody and the issue with the court is that member districts may not be favored one way or the other."

Here's today's story about yesterday's dilemma:

The day began with the Senate redistricting chairman offering bagels and cream cheese to his colleagues, but the magnanimous gesture was short-lived as Republicans intensely feuded over how to draw maps for the next decade.

After nine hours of grueling debate on Tuesday, the Republican-dominated Senate Reapportionment Committee could not agree on anything. Committee chairman Don Gaetz decided to reconvene the committee again on Wednesday for six more hours.

“This happens once every 10 years,’’ said Gaetz icily at the end of the meeting, his pleasant demeanor tested by the long debate. “I don’t consider it angst. I consider it a thoughtful, deliberative process.”

The map proposed on Saturday by Gaetz, R-Niceville, remained the only proposal in play, despite attempts by a handful of senators to reconfigure it to shift Hispanic districts in Miami or Republican districts in Central Florida.

Gaetz’s plan would create 23 solid Republican districts, hand over three more districts to Democrats, bringing their total to 15, and create at least two competitive seats.

Alternative maps proposed by Sens. Miguel Diaz de la Portilla, R-Miami, and Jack Latvala, R-Clearwater were withdrawn, only to have their sponsors suggest they would bring them up again on Thursday when Gaetz’s map comes up for a floor vote.

Unlike the last round, this is the Senate’s last shot to design a map that complies with the new anti-gerrymandering standards approved by voters and fixes objections outlined by the Florida Supreme Court.

The court rejected the Senate map, but approved the House map. If the Senate plan doesn’t get court approval this time, the court itself will draw the Senate map.

Under the House map, at least 38 incumbent legislators must move or be pitted against other lawmakers.

Under Gaetz’s plan, only four senators would face that fate. Sens. Ellyn Bogdanoff, R-Fort Lauderdale, and Maria Sachs, D-Delray Beach, are drawn into a coastal district that stretches from Boynton Beach to Fort Lauderdale. Sens. David Simmons, R-Maitland, and Andy Gardiner, R-Orlando, are pitted against each other in an Orlando-based district.

Diaz de la Portilla’s proposed map would create a strong fourth Hispanic-dominated seat and break up the district now held by Sen. Gwen Margolis, D-Miami. Margolis demanded the proposal be evaluated based on the effect it has on all Miami-Dade voters, not just Hispanics and blacks because, she argued, “Anglos have become a minority in Dade County.”

But questions arose about the non-compact shape of other districts in the plan. Sen. Ronda Storms, R-Valrico, said one oddly-shaped district that stretched from Weston in Broward County, through Palm Beach and up to the Martin County border as “Jay Leno in a baseball cap” ran the risk “of having the Supreme Court object to it.”

The all-day meeting was sparsely attended by the public, but, in a rare show of attentiveness, most senators remained seated and rapt.

The reason was clear: the once-a-decade drawing of political boundaries affects each of them more personally than most anything else they vote on. Legislators who are drawn out of their districts are mulling the possibility of buying or renting a new home to meet the residency requirements of their new districts.

More than once senators asked for clarification about the residency requirements to get elected. The answer came back the same: you have to live in the district when you take office.
In the audience were two House Democrats who each are eying a Senate seat, Reps. Jeff

Clemens of Lake Worth and Mack Bernard of West Palm Beach. Also in attendance was Mark Wilson, president of the Florida Chamber of Commerce, whose organization is financing election campaigns to ensure that Republicans retain a strong majority in the Senate.

Gaetz’s plan redesigned the eight districts the court singled out as invalid and attempted to fix the numbering system that the court rejected as biased in favor of incumbents.

But Sen. Oscar Braynon, D-Miami Gardens, suggested that the court also required the Senate to review election history and voting patterns of its minority districts to determine if they could actually elect minorities. The House had conducted a so-called “functional analysis” but the Senate staff failed to include the results in its presentation to senators.

Sen. Alan Hays, R-Umatilla, warned the committee that it was heading “down a slippery slope of mass confusion” with that debate. But Sen. Nancy Detert demanded that the committee be given the results. The staff scrambled to comply.

Gaetz also struggled to win support for his proposal for numbering districts. In a memo to senators, he suggested a lottery of sorts that would arrange to have a neutral, independent party decide which of the Senate’s 40-districts get two-year terms and which get four-year terms. The constitution requires the Senate have staggered terms.

A tense debate followed as some senators accused the court of judicial activism while others rejected Gaetz’s plan for a lottery.

But Gaetz urged them to agree to the change or risk tainting the plan again with allegations of incumbency protection. “There’s going to be an aroma that will implicate the rest of the proposal,” he warned.

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Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans, White countries for everyone????????

Everybody
says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will
be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY
into White countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are more
crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve
this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote
assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final
solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY White
countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites.

What
if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be
solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into
EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long
would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I
am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?

But
if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide
against my race, the White race, Liberals and respectable conservatives
will just say that I'm a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

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TIZZY

PERHAPS WE SHOULD ARREST THE HOLY REV. AL SHARPTON, FOR HIS "CIVIL UNREST" STATEMENST. THE CHARGE CAN BE "INCITING A RIOT" LETS JUST CALL IT WHAT IT IS, AND THATS BECASUE SHARPTON HAS NOTHING ELSE TO DO, BUT USE HIS VENOM AND RACISTS REMARKS TO KINDLE HIS SICK MIND.

HE IS A RACIST, JUST LOOK INTO HIS BACKGROUND.

TIZZY

SHAME ON JOE SCARBOROUGH. PERHAPS WE SHOULD JUST GO OUT AND FIND ZIMMERMAN, HANG HIM FROM THE HIGHEST TREE, (LIKE THE WILD WEST), THEN WE GIVE HIM A FAIR TRIAL.

SHAME ON YOU, JOE. WHERE IN THE HECK IS OUR FORM OF JUSTICE.

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