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Workman, Stargel: Gov. Scott, sign our alimony bill

Rep. Ritch Workman, R-Melbourne, and Sen. Kelli Stargel, R-Lakeland, held a press conference Tuesday to rally support for their alimony bill.

The proposal, which does away with permanent alimony and requires judges to split custody evenly between most divorcing parents, has already passed in both chambers. But the Family Law Section of the Florida Bar is pressing Gov. Rick Scott to wield his veto pen.

Killing the bill could help Scott with women voters in his upcoming bid for reelection.

On Tuesday, Stargel pointed out that a supermajority of lawmakers had voted for the proposal, and that supporters included "both men and women."

Added Workman: "If he needs the women's vote, this is not the bill to veto."

The two planned to meet with the governor later in the day. Stargel said they would be bringing a binder full of, er, alimony horror stories.

Scott wouldn't say much about the proposal, only that he's reviewing it.

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johnny Davis

I have spoke to a lot of weman about alimony and most all of them that are not receving alimony agree the law needs to change , They are shocked to find that the law as it stands can affect them by being with a man that is a alimoney payer , as they understand the law as it is Now most of there mouths gust Drop .


Johnny Davis

Scott

I personally know many women that support this bill and a veto by Governor Scott would jeopardize their vote. Has this reporter or the Family Law Section ever heard of the Second Wife's Club? The fictional painting of the bill as being anti-women is just another attempt by these lawyers to prey on Florida families and pounce on their life savings. Please Governor Scott sign this bill into law and give Florida families relief from agressive lawyers and prolonged court battles where only the lawyers win.

Jose Aleman

IF THE CURRENT FLORIDA ALIMONY LAW AWARDS PERMANENT ALIMONY TO A PRACTICING DENTIST, THEN THERE MUST BE SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH THE LAW.
I PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER MONTH OF PERMANENT ALIMONY TO A DENTIST, SOMEONE THAT IS COMPLETELY REHABILITATED.
THE CURRENT LAW ALLOWS WIDE OPEN JUDICARY DISCRETION LEADING TO IRRATIONAL RULINGS.
AFTER 27 YEARS OF EDUCATION AND 19 YEARS OF 24/7 WORKING I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RETIRE.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS STEALING AWAY MY RETIREMENT.
GOVERNOR SCOTT MUST SIGN SB718/HB231!!!
Dr. Aleman

johnny

currenr Law - your new partners Income can be Taking to pay your Ex

New Law - your new partners Income can't be Taking to pay your Ex

Current Law - When Child Support ends alimoney can be increased

New Law - When Child Support ends alimoney can't be increased Due to Child support ending.

Current Law - at Retirement Age Alimony Don’t Stop

New Law - at Retirement Age Alimony Dose Stop

Current Law - Permanent alimony last tell Death

New Law - alimony last 1 year for ever two years your where married

Current Law - There is no Guidline to how much money you receve

New Law - There Will Be Guidline to how much money you receve the most is 33% of there pay

Current Laws will keep you in court and fighting well the Atteroneys receve the famaleys assets

New Law - will allow you to move on rase your children ang get along as you will still have your assets to share

Ever thought if you where single and met some one OR you are single and meet some one how it
would be like if they had to pay alimony to there ex for ever Or your Income could Be consitered in there oblagation
to pay there Ex with the Current Laws this can Happen And with the New Laws It can't So there will be an End and You
can move on live a Life with some one and even get along with the Ex and Children and not Hating them becouse of
finances you can' afford so men woman let's get it together and ask Gov. Scott to sing the New Law in.

Lee Kallett

The alimony reform legislation goes a long way towards correcting our State’s
outdated, unjust, and unfair alimony laws. Apparently our legislators listened
to the overwhelming support of their constituents and the people of Florida. The
Family Law Section is interested in preserving the status quo. This is a selfish
attempt to preserve their litigation derived income.The assertion this bill
would be devastating to families is absurd. The families in question were
already devastated when the divorce occurred. It is the current laws that
further devastate the parties afterwards by bleeding one while encouraging
dependency in the other. Florida is one of only a few states that still allows
lifetime alimony that does not end at retirement, but only ceases upon death or
remarriage of the recipient. It’s about time Florida follows the rest of the
country into the 21st century!
Divorce shouldn't carry a lifetime penalty to one party for the benefit of the
other. When a couple divorces, separation of lives should follow.
Alimony reform is fair. It’s what the people want and it’s the right thing for
the State of Florida and its families.

TINA VIERA

I AM A WOMAN WHO'S BEEN ON THREE SIDES OF THESE ISSUES, I AM FROM A DIVORCED FAMILY WITH HOSTILITY DUE TO PAID ALIMONY BY MY FATHER TO MY MOTHER. I DIVORCED AN ABUSIVE MAN AND WITH 3 KIDS I STILL REFUSED ALIMONY AND HAD HIS CHILD SUPPORT LOWERED SO THAT HE COULD SURVIVE AND STILL BE A PART OF HIS KIDS LIVES (EVEN THO HE CHOSE NOT TO) AND I AM CURRENTLY WITH A PARTNER WHO PAYS ALIMONY TO SOMEONE WHO HAS A DEGREE AND HE DOESN'T, AND WHOM I WOULD ALSO HAVE TO PAY IF I MARRY HIM! HE HAS PLEADED FOR EQUAL PARENTING BUT THE COURTS HAVE REFUSED AND THE OPPOSING ATTORNEY HAS SAID HE HAS TO PROVE WHY HE SHOULD GET THEM! WHAT?? THERE'S BEEN NO ABUSE WHATSOEVER AND HE'S A GREAT DADDY....SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY WRONG WITH THE CURRENT LAWS! IF GOVERNOR SCOTT DOESN'T SIGN THIS BILL, I FOR ONE AS A WOMAN WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN AND I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR OUR HUMAN RIGHTS AS PARENTS. THE FLORIDA FAMILY LAW SYSTEM MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO VIOLATE OUR CHILDREN'S RIGHTS OR OUR PARENTAL RIGHTS!

amar persaud

This bill reduces the endless litigation that drains divorcing couples of their finances and the impact on the family which is already in a state of serious stress from the divorce. I am a in court battling permanent alimony for the past 3 years. My children are sick and tired having to deal with 2 adults fighting and all the bitterness and resentment involved. The net result, the relationship with my kids is very strained and would require mega therapy to it get back the way it was prior to divorce. There is no way that people of integrity can read this bill, do their due diligence and not support this bill. Governor Scott, there is a lot of politics involved and the FLS selfish interests are making this process very difficult. As Governor of FL, please ignore all the noise, be objective, set aside politics and do the right thing for the people of FL. This is ground breaking legislation that only a strong leader like you can enact. This is a turning point for the archaic alimony laws in FL. Please be part of the solution, sign this bill and eliminate permanent alimony. Help our economy by putting competent capable alimony receivers back in the work place so that they can be functional in our society. Supporting permanent alimony is like admitting men and women are unequal and women are not as capable as men. Governor Scott, we are counting on you.

Elvina Bergmann Kallett

Dear Governor Scott:

I have a job interview on Thursday. I plan to tell them I want them to continue my salary forever if I quit or get fired. I also want them to continue to pay my salary when and if I ever get another job. Although, let's face it: why would I?

I have drawn up an employment agreement that spells this out, along with the fact that if they go out of business or for some reason can't afford to pay my salary anymore, they have to sue me to reduce their payments and it will take several months, maybe longer than a year, for a judge to order a reduction - and even then the judge may just decide to keep the payments to me coming.

What do you think? Sounds like a pretty good deal for me, huh? That's what lifetime alimony is all about. Why shouldn't I also have such a good deal?
(Thank you for this Robin Descamp)

My husband is paying lifetime alimony to his ex-wife who left the marriage to pursue a lesbian lifestyle. For this, she was rewarded with $48,000/year lifetime alimony. My husband attempted to modify this amount when he made $30,000 less the year after the divorce and has remained at that earning level for the last seven years (he's in sales and relies on commissions). The Judge ruled that $30,000 less in income wasn't a sufficiently significant change in circumstances to warrant a reduction. It certainly is to us since my husband is paying some months 65% of his gross earnings to the ex, leaving us with little to live on ourselves.

I urge your support for alimony reform as it goes a long way towards reforming Florida's outdated, unjust, and ultimately unfair alimony laws. It’s my sincere hope you are listening to your constituents and the people of this state and not the misinformation and propaganda being spread by the Family Law Section or other special interest groups with vested interests in preserving the status quo.

1. The Family Law Section of the Florida Bar is opposed to this bill and has been spreading misinformation about both the bill and the current divorce and alimony law in what can only be viewed as a selfish attempt to preserve their own litigation-derived income. There is no other reason to oppose this bill. They assert this bill, if approved, would be devastating to families. This is absurd. The families in question were already devastated when the divorce occurred. It is the current laws that further devastate the parties afterwards by bleeding one while encouraging dependency in the other. The new bill does not in any way alter child support responsibilities so children’s welfare remains protected and provided for.

2. The FLS claims the proposed bill is anti-women. This is also completely untrue. Indeed, there are women paying lifetime alimony too, in some cases to men who abused them! Florida’s antiquated alimony laws date from an era when women were less educated and not expected to support themselves. Times have changed and single and divorced women are educated, trained, gainfully employed and financially independent.

3. The FLS claims the existing law already provides for termination of alimony when the obligor reaches retirement age. Like their other allegations, this is patently false and obviously self-serving. While the current law may provide the right to hire a lawyer (likely a member of the FLS!) and seek modification of alimony at retirement age, it does not end alimony payments nor does it assure a reduction in the amount being paid. Many alimony payers cannot afford or even think of retiring and will have to work until the day they die!

4. While the bill provides for retroactively reviewing and re-hearing previous divorce settlements and possibly ending or modifying alimony, it does not call for the immediate termination of all previous alimony awards. If an alimony recipient can prove a clear need for alimony, the payments would continue. The bill does, however, call for abolition of permanent alimony and the establishment of specific guidelines on how long alimony should be paid.

Please sign in favor of alimony reform. You will help my family as well as many others.
Thank you.

Katie Stanton

@Scott, good women know who the Second Wives Club are. They are the women that their ex-husbands cheated with. The adulterers club would be a better name. In other countries women like this would get an ounce of respect and good women who know what the second wives club is all about also do not have an ounce of respect the the club or the women in it or the men that cheated on their first wives. The whole rotten bunch shouldn't be making up laws that harm the majority so that men can walk away from their families scott free and the new 2nd wives can now enjoy 100% of the gravy train. The whole group behind this bill are the lowest of the low.

PrincessBunnySlippers

This bill ends litigation-derived continuing income sources for dependent spouses that appear to lack a work ethic and attorneys willing to bilk the hard working spouse for income, and even more income if the working spouse remarries another wage earner. Totally unfair. I look forward to seeing Governor Scott sign this bill and end this outdated practice. And I'm female.

Patrick Krug

If the the Gov. Rick Scott is worried about votes I think that he will lose votes from the second wives, divorced men, women paying alimony, friends of the divorced men, friends of the second wives, etc.

All across the country in a lot of states people are pushing to change the laws. Does Rick Scott want to go down in history as stopping the movement in Florida or passing a change that has been needed for years? I hope that he passes it. He will remembered and thanked for making a difference with Florida's families.

I would also think that the bill would have support of a lot of the people receiving alimony. The law puts standards to the awards. It will help people heal the family.

#Governor #Rick #Scott sign the bill! #SB718


Shari Moore

I'm a member of the Second Wives Club. I am his ONLY wife! I am the woman that works hard, honors my husband and looks at him with love in my eyes. I am also the woman that contributes to the alimony that his ex draws. She will receive a $250,000 life insurance policy when he passes away, I will have lost the love of my life and be hard pressed to find the funds to give him the funeral a man of dignity deserves. I appreciate my husband, the ex continues to abuse him, financial and mental abuse from this burden is unwarranted. I have raised 3 children, my previous husband and I are friends. We have mutual respect, we celebrate life together, neither has ever tried to take advantage of the other's income. In times of need we help each other. We have RESPECT not entitlement. PLEASE PASS HB 718 so others can begin to heal the wounds!

Johnny Davis

This last post said it all.

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