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The skinny on Marlins pitching staff; UM/NCAA update; Canes, Heat, Dolphins chatter

Note: This buzz column leads with the second of our two-part series on the Marlins, aimed to coincide with the start of spring training and to familiarize readers with the team. If you are angry with the Marlins to the point you have lost interest, or didn't have interest to begin with, then skip down to chatter for Canes, Heat and Dolphins.



Marlins pitching chatter:

### With Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle and Anibal Sanchez gone, here’s what’s left of a starting rotation that reported to spring training last week:

An ace (Ricky Nolasco) who allowed the third-most hits and fourth-most runs in the National League in 2012; a No. 3 starter (Henderson Alvarez, via Toronto) who relinquished the second-most hits and suffered the AL’s fourth-most losses; and a No. 4 starter (Nate Eovaldi) who suffered the NL’s fifth-most losses. In fact, only one projected starter (Jacob Turner) allowed a batting average below .275.

You want the glass-half-full view instead? Here it is: Jose Fernandez, MLB.com’s No. 7 prospect, could arrive in Miami by July after dominating A-ball last year (14-1, 1.75 ERA, 158 strikeouts, 89 hits in 134 innings).

Jack McKeon said Fernandez will be a No. 1 starter and Larry Beinfest said: “You won’t find better power [pitching] in the minors than Fernandez. I can’t remember any guy in our system” who had stats as dominating.

More glass-half-full: The Marlins should snag a decent prospect or two by trading Nolasco this summer.… Some scouts believe Eovaldi and Alvarez have sharp enough stuff to become solid starters…. The Marlins have three highly-regarded lefties on the way: Justin Nicolino (72nd among all prospects by MLB.com), Andrew Heaney (81st) and Adam Conley.

And there’s this: Turner has the Marlins excited  because of his excellent work after the Detroit trade. Ignore the 1-4 record. He had a sterling ERA (3.38) and batting average against (.208; .189 vs. lefties).

“He still needs polishing, but we really like him,” said a general manager from another NL team. “He can be a middle of the rotation starter, maybe better.”

### Former manager Ozzie Guillen believed Eovaldi had more electric stuff than Turner, but the results didn’t show it. Eovaldi allowed 97 base-runners in 63 innings in 12 Marlins starts (3-7, 4.43 ERA) after going 1-6 for the Dodgers. Batters hit .284 against him, lefties .333.

"I don’t love his arm action; it seems like a strain for him to throw,” the opposing GM said. “Maybe he’s a third or fourth starter.”

But Eovaldi said he corrected a mechanical issue late last season, and the Marlins believe he’s ready to blossom. “You know how people say God came down and blessed you with a lightning bolt as an arm?” catcher Rob Brantly said. “You can say that about Eovaldi.”

### The Marlins believe Alvarez also is better than his 2012 work in Toronto suggests (9-14, 4.85). But this is alarming: He allowed an absurd 270 base-runners in 187 innings -- including 29 homers, a .290 average, and .342 against cleanup hitters.

So why do the Marlins like him? “He has explosive stuff at times and a complete repertoire,” Beinfest said. “He just needs to throw strikes.”

### The Marlins expect more from Nolasco than he provided last year (12-13, 4.48) -- both to stabilize the staff and boost his value, with Nolasco expecting to be traded by July. He again allowed too many base-runners (261 in 191 innings), including 9 hits in 14 at-bats with the bases loaded.

### Wade LeBlanc (2-5, 3.76 ERA) is the favorite for the fifth spot, but don’t rule out Brad Hand (11-7, 4.00 at Triple A), Alex Sanabia (6-7, 3.93 at Triple A) or non-roster invitees John Maine (41-36 lifetime, but out of the majors since 2011), Kevin Slowey (39-29) and Mitch Talbot (12-19).

### The Marlins are comfortable with Steve Cishek closing after last season, when he had 15 saves and allowed a .183 average with runners in scoring position. But bullpen depth beyond Cishek is worrisome.

The Marlins believe 6-11 Jon Rauch will be better as a set-up man than closer. His career saves-to-blown-saves ratio (62 to 31) is abysmal, but batters hit .209 off him with the Mets last year. “His stuff is still good and he knows the division well,” Beinfest said…

The Marlins once thought Ryan Webb and Mike Dunn might be future closers. Forget that. Webb was battered -- .295 average against (up 40 points from 2011) and .338 at Marlins Park. Opponents’ batting averages against Dunn has risen annually - .200 to .211 to .224 to .283, and control remains an issue at times. “Their pure stuff is so good, but it’s time for them to do it,” Beinfest said.

### The Marlins hope Chad Qualls (51 career saves) has something left at 34, and keep an eye on hard-throwing right-handers Jose Ceda, Evan Reed and A.J. Ramos (36 hits, 89 strikeouts in 68 innings at Double A). Marlins players rave about Ramos’ stuff.

### Bottom line: “If our pitching produces the way we think it can, we’re going to be OK,” Beinfest said. But at least two and maybe four members of the likely 2015 rotation will begin the year in the minors.


### Though the NCAA hasn’t yet publicly released results of the investigation into its improper handling of a portion of the UM case, an NCAA source says UM has a good sense of what’s in the report, including confirmation of the NCAA agreeing to pay Nevin Shapiro’s attorney for her legal services.

UM and the NCAA spoke last week about two issues they’re still debating --- how the NCAA’s misconduct will affect the forthcoming notice of allegations and how the case will proceed from here.

UM continues to push for a settlement --- without having to appear before the infractions committee –-but NCAA president Mark Emmert knows he needs the blessing of two NCAA committees to take that highly unusual step, and whether that will happen is still very much up in the air. 

One person in contact with the NCAA said a settlement cannot be ruled out, though several NCAA experts (such as John Infante) have said it's unlikely because there's no precedent for a settlement in a recruiting case. Remember, Emmert bypassed the usual protocol only in the Penn State case, which involved Jerry Sandusky's child molestation.

The 35 presidents on those two committees could balk at a UM settlement. But some believe they could be pursuaded if Emmert makes a convincing case why this matter should be resolved quickly. Emmert also could tell UM it must go before the infractions committee but instruct the infractions committee to expedite the process.

“Hopefully, we’ll get to a conclusion here very quickly,” UM coach Al Golden said.

And how long could this go on if the NCAA doesn’t settle?

For perspective, consider that after receiving its allegations in November 2011, Central Florida didn’t get its penalties for nearly nine months (July 31). UCF appealed its one-year football bowl ban in September, and is still awaiting a decision – 15 ½ months after getting its allegations.

That’s an absolute worst-case scenario UM could face if it appeals --- a saga that drags into a fourth year and past next February's football signing day. But Donna Shalala told Trustees recently that this NCAA mess cannot affect another football and basketball recruiting class.

By the way, UM has no current plans to sue the NCAA, though it has not been ruled out. And UM expects to receive its notice of allegations very quickly after the NCAA publicly releases the report on the investigation into the NCAA's misconduct in the UM case. 

### UM forward Julian Gamble, on the difference between coach Jim Larranaga and predecessor Frank Haith: When players make mistakes, Haith would need to reach “a boiling point, where we can’t take it anymore” before correcting it.

By contrast, “Coach L won’t take it once. If we’re not cutting hard enough or fumbling the ball or [whatever], he’ll stop practice and make us do it over. [But] his demeanor is calm and poised.”

### Though four of the Heat's five most effective lineups this season have had just one natural power rotation player -- and though that lineup helped Miami win a title -- doubters remain, even beyond Charles Barkley. When the Heat goes small against big teams, “it helps you,” Dwight Howard said. “[You] have to pick them apart.”

Lakers forward Antawn Jamison insisted “there’s an opportunity to beat that lineup – for us, if Pau Gasol is healthy, and Chicago with Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah. But only two teams can put that big lineup out there to [beat] Miami’s small lineup.” Barkley includes the Spurs in that group.

### Not only is LeBron James shooting an incredible 56.5 percent, but players he’s defending are shooting just 37.6 – behind only Paul Pierce among qualifying small forwards, according to synergysportstech.com.

### Several Dolphins people, including Ryan Tannehill, have reached out to Matt Moore, hoping he will re-sign. Keep in mind that Cleveland offensive coordinator Norv Turner is a big fan of Moore, who will test free agency to see if there's a starting job available in a situation that's appealing to him. But he hasn't ruled out coming back to Miami. Kyle Orton earns - on average - $3.5 million per year to back up Tony Romo in Dallas, so quality backup quarterbacks like Moore aren't cheap.     


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Jimbo Fisher

Hopefully Miami gets pounded by the NCAA, or is forced to wait forever. Thats what they deserve for getting into bed with little Nevin Shapiro.


I love how the Marlins try to pretend like they haven't completely written off this season. Last year was disappointing, but this year will be unwatchable. I'd like to see 100+ losses and around 4,000 in average attendance and then hear Samson try to spin it. Of course, if that happens, Beinfest and Hill won't be held accountable because they never are, so the cycle will continue. Wake me up when someone convinces Loria to sell.


Turner and Fernandez are the best hope for this staff, and Cishek is pretty good. Nolasco has never been worth the money.


Beinfest should have pushed for the prospects the Mets got for Dickey - D'Arnaud, etc. Instead they cheaped out and got a SS who can't hit and a No. 4 starter who can't get anybody out. Sooooo Marlins.


Oh Jimbo....keep wishing your little heart away....the organization investigation us is more corrupt then us. What a horrible example to the world they are.

Bobby Bowden

The NCAA is doggone stupid! They've punished Miami enough with dragging their feet and messing up their own investigation. Let them get back to winning championships.


Several college basketball sources told The Post the Garden has no interest in a league headlined by UConn and Cincinnati. The Garden is very interested in keeping the Group of Seven league.

But suddenly there’s a new player in town. When rumors surfaced the ACC was exploring moving its championship tournament to the Garden, it met a quick end because the ACC wanted to try it on a one-year basis.

Sources said the ACC recently came back to the Garden seeking a five-year deal.

So now the Garden is in a great place: It can go with the ACC, which would bring its tournament to New York for the 2015-16 season. Or it can go with the Catholic 7, which has a deal in place through 2026.

Even if the ACC decided after five years to rotate its tournament site — a move that might be necessary to placate the Southern schools in the league, it would continue to return.

“The Garden is more important to the Catholic 7 than the Catholic 7 is to the Garden,’’ said one source.

If this should happen, if the Catholic 7 doesn’t get its ducks in a row and the Garden goes with the ACC, there could be, let’s call it arena realignment.

Barclays Center has the Atlantic 10 postseason tournament. But if Butler, Xavier and St. Louis, among others, leave the A-10 for the Catholic 7 conference, that league could move to Barclays. Sources said Barclays has even had a couple of “feeling out” conversations with the Big Ten.

Imagine a week like this in the metropolitan area in March — Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State and all the others — in town. Try getting a hotel room.
– nypost



ESPN president John Skipper was “respectful” of Fox’s plans later this year to start a national cable channel to be called Fox Sports One.

“They have enough live product and expertise to do a 24/7 cable channel, but we’re happy with our position and confident in our ability, given the amount of live rights we have, the standing of our brand across platforms and the assets we have,” Skipper said. “We’re always respectful. I’m hesitant to say concerned

as regional sports networks such as Comcast SportsNet Houston and Time Warner Cable’s new Lakers channel and proposed Dodgers channel in Los Angeles continue to draw attention to increased subscriber fees, Skipper said he does not expect the perception of ESPN’s value to viewers and distributors to suffer as well.

“The amount of live content and well-produced studio content we have is massively larger (than the RSNs). Our (Nielsen) rating on a per-minute basis is double all of the RSNs combined, every single one of them.”
– houston chronicle



Marlins will win at least 5 more games than last season


Let the ncaa committee get into a car wreck w loria


UM's attention to detail that Larranaga demands is paying big dividends this year. There are no shortcuts to reach the top and Haith obviously has not learned this lesson. His Missouri team shows a lot of the same problems his UM team's did under his guidance, despite the fact they are talented. I hope Cane fans understand that next year's team will be a far cry from this one and it won't be because Coach L forgot how to coach. He'll need some time to rebuild the team.


BA,I don't like the front office either, but I hate it when people get it WRONG, D'Arnaud, is playing for the major league minimum. The player you mentioned shortstop Hechvarrina, has a 1.7 million contract. That's about 1.2 million above what D'Arnaud is being being. So the FA didn't cheap out on the trade.


Also, the Marlins chose to get "lesser" of quality prospects from the Dodgers and Jays in order for the two teams two take on the heftier salaries. Marlins' purging of payroll was primary while the return haul of players was secondary.


Hope Loria buys the NCAA.


rbleigh- you're making my point for me. they're not looking to get better necessarily, just cheaper. after lying to the taxpayers, that's just criminal. And Mike,forget the salaries. Your the one who is WRONG. Hechevarria is a poorer prospect than D'Arnaud or Snydergaard. That's the universal consensus. He won't hit your IQ. Salary dump, so don't tell me the return Beinfest got was promising. Just about getting rid of contracts.

Steve Spurrier

Them boys down in Miami been cheatin' for years now. It's about time the NCAA doles down the right punishment, then again making them suckers wait some more for what's a coming is pretty good punishment as well.


As a Hurricanes fan in Jacksonville, I'm very familiar with David Garrard. The Dolphins were almost as bad to him as the Jaguars. I'm glad the Jaguars were terrible and wish the same, or worst, for the Dolphins.

john goode

Don't worry about a thing Jimbo Fisher, we'll get back to kicking Florida State's ass as soon as we're done kicking the NCAA's ass. As for the Marlins, they're still my team even if I want to take Loria over to Metro Zoo in Miami and throw him in Gorilla poop. Don't worry it's safe, even the gorilla are disgusted with Loria



Winter baseball in Coral Gables
– hurricanesports


mrs hill

Loria is bribing the gorilla


Jimbo, you are an idiot...please leave and go back to Tallawakee...we don't need you here.


BA, kisten dummy if the Marlin take on 1.2 million more in that trade it isn't a dump. I'm just reacting to what you said that it was a salary dump because they didn't take D'Arnaud. I agree D'Arnaud is the better prospect, but they took on both Herrchie, and Jeff Mathis in that trade. Herrchie makes 1.75 million and Mathis makes 1.5 million, D'Arnaud makes 496 thousand. The reason they took those 2 player is because they needed a shortstop, and Herrchie is a pretty good SS. He's not anywhere near the hitter Reyes is, but he'll probably catch the ball better. And they had to balance out the money going out. Is a good trade no, but did they not ask for D'Arnaud, they probably did. But in the end they accepted a lesser trade because they had to to complete the trade. And you're still a moron.

Georgia Cane

Bloggers here in GA and NC are calling UM a One Year wonder. That might be true. With 6 seniors, UM will need a close on the NCAA case, so that Coach "L" can get a solid recruiting class. Hopefully, this will be a start of things to come for UM B-ball. Go Canes! I better start saving money for the Final four in the GA Dome.


Everyone who badmouths the canes is an idiot. Don't you know the only reason we are down is the NCAA. And Shapiro. And Yahoo! Sports. And Manny Navarro. And Uncle Luke and Ice Harris. And Denver Kirkland. And Jacory Harris. And Shannon. And Coker. And Shalala. And the AD of the week. And Sun Life Stadium. Besides that we are on our way back. Everyone is afraid of us. Soon we will kick everyone's behind.



The most popular story in the @MiamiHerald is Canes over Clemson? Strange times continue
– @ACCSports


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