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Saturday update: Hurricanes football chatter, Dolphins notes entering Texans game

Some Saturday Hurricanes and Dolphins notes:

CANES CHATTER

### We hear Herb Waters and Philip Dorsett were among those who were impressive in UM’s scrimmage Friday night. (There was a high-school presence at the closed scrimmage, so it’s inevitable that a few details leak.)

Waters caught two long passes, and Dorsett caught a long pass down the sideline. Freshman Stacy Coley caught two TD passes from Ryan Williams – that’s the only specific detail that UM announced about the scrimmage. UM people reiterate that Coley is too good to keep off the field this season. Coley has even taken some first team snaps.

Expect Coley, Waters, Allen Hurns, Rashawn Scott, Phillip Dorsett and Malcolm Lewis all to play this season.

Offensive coordinator James Coley said there’s certainly enough snaps to use at least six receivers because UM expects to play at a quick tempo and expects to get a lot of offensive plays.

Dorsett figures to be the primary punt returner, but UM people expect Coley could eventually be a factor there.

### Tight end Clive Walford has been very impressive and did a lot of damage in the middle of the field Friday night. Asante Cleveland and Beau Sandland have had their moments in camp and each will play. Sandland is much improved from the spring. And Coley seems to value Cleveland more than Jedd Fisch did.

### Al Golden said he wants to see a big back emerge as a backup option behind Duke Johnson. But it hasn’t happened yet, with Gus Edwards not yet cleared to practice because of an NCAA Clearinghouse issue, and Danny Dillard not asserting himself. (Dillard has to be more physical.) So it wouldn’t be surprising if fullback Maurice Hagens gets some short yardage carries.

We hear Dallas Crawford and Eduardo Clements have been the best backup running backs so far. Clements is showing no effects of the neck injury that sidelined him for many months, until recently.

### Former Wisconsin defensive end David Gilbert has displayed quickness off the edge in his first week of practice. He might begin his UM career as a pass rush specialist initially, but it wouldn't be surprising if he eventually challenges Shayon Green for a starting job. Green is valued more by UM coaches than by many fans, who are understandably troubled by the fact he didn’t have a single sack last season.

### The third down pass rush package should be much better, with Gilbert, impressive freshman Al-Quadin Muhammad and improved Tyriq McCord. UM keeps experimenting with combinations there. Defensive end/tackle Ufomba Kamalu still needs time to learn the system after sitting out the first week of practice while awaiting NCAA clearance.

### The linebacker battle between Thurston Ambrister and Alex Figueroa keeps swinging back and forth, with both making plays at different times in the past two weeks.

### Jimmy Gaines remains ahead of Raphael Kirby for the middle linebacker job.

### We hear the UM defensive backfield clearly misses Deon Bush’s athleticism and play-making. Golden said he expects him back for the opener, after sports hernia surgery in May.

### Defensive tackle Luther Robinson is an excellent shape and playing well. His improvement – and his value to this team – have risen markedly in the past year.

### UM did not crack the AP top 25, announced Saturday, and finished fourth in "others receiving votes." So UM was essentially ranked 29th.

 

DOLPHINS CHATTER

Six unresolved issues we’re eager to track in tonight's preseason game against Houston:

### Fourth and fifth receivers: The sense here is Rishard Matthews is the likely No. 4, but a couple of good preseason games will help solidify that. Chad Bumphis and Brian Tyms have been the best of the others recently. Tyms has an interesting skill set; he’s big (6-3) and fast but needs polishing. Marvin McNutt’s hands aren’t reliable enough. Keenan Davis and Jeff Fuller need big nights.

### Offensive line: Josh Samuda will get work at right guard tonight, but it will be surprising and unsettling if he begins the season there as the starter. The starter figures to be John Jerry, Lance Louis or Nate Garner, if he’s back in time from shoulder surgery. Louis said last week he’s hoping to play tonight – nine months after major knee surgery. Jerry remains out but should be ready to start the season.

It’s a big night for Will Yeatman, who needs to follow his solid game in Jacksonville with a repeat performance. Three more good games, and Yeatman could be the backup left tackle. If not, Miami likely will need to scan the waiver wire for one. Jeff Adams isn’t the answer.

### Backups in the backfield: Running back Jonas Gray and fullbacks Jorvorskie Lane and Evan Rodriguez need to be impressive to give Miami reason to keep any of them. With Charles Clay able to play fullback, it remains highly questionable if Miami keeps either Lane or Rodriguez.

The Dolphins could keep three running backs (Lamar Miller, Daniel Thomas and Mike Gilislee), one fullback/tight end hybrid in Clay and three natural tight ends (Dustin Keller, Dion Sims, Michael Egnew). One more could make it at those positions depending on how the Dolphins want to construct their roster.

The way Joe Philbin and Mike Sherman have been raving about Egnew, there’s a good chance he sticks.

Miller, the likely starter, needs more work tonight after just two carries (for six yards) against Jacksonville.

### One or two backup linebacker jobs: This is one of the few spots on defense where a roster spot is realistically unresolved. Josh Kaddu, Austin Spitler, Jonathan Freeney and Lee Robinson are top contenders for one or two jobs behind the three starters, Jason Trusnik and Jelani Jenkins. Found it interesting that Philbin singled out Kaddu last week as one of the impressive players in camp.

### Cornerback rotation: Perhaps tonight and next Saturday’s game against Tampa will offer some clarity about the Dimitri Patterson/Richard Marshall starting cornerback battle. Will Davis could crack the top four (ahead of Nolan Carroll) with another good game.

### Defensive line backups: Newcomer Antwan Applewhite and impressed undrafted Fresno State rookie Tristan Okpalaugo will try to give the Dolphins a reason to keep them around. Not sure how either makes the 53, unless there’s a serious injury or Miami keeps more linemen than expected. (Okpalaugo could make the practice squad.)

Derrick Shelby, Vaughn Martin and probably Kheeston Randall are poised to be the top backups, besides – obviously – Randy Starks (if Jared Odrick starts, as expected) and Dion Jordan. But Randall needs a strong close to camp.

### Quick aside: As @davehydesports noted earlier today, three members of the 1972 Dolphins have declined their White House invitations Tuesday because they disagree politically with this administration: Manny Fernandez, Bob Kuechenberg and Jim Langer.

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cane-up

Um lets go get it - the um way swag on swag on u

johnny

Great updates Barry, go canes

green

is sneaky pete whispering $weet nothing$ in the sports editor's tin ear ...
day after day splashing f-i-u-don't-matter on the front page of the website ...
seriously, if U didn't know better ...
U would erroneously conclude that this good-for-nothing commuter school was on par with the well-established, well-esteemed, well-followed University of Miami ...
U know, the school they love to hate since 1926 ...
swim with the fishies ...
how low do they go to accommodate other small fry like barry, st thomas, florida memorial ... miami-dade
betcha didn't know the county community college enrolls 176,000 students ...
graduated 1.5M alumni ...
where's their beat? blog? propagandist?
(an allusion to the former staffer -- pete the pied piper pelegrin -- who worked for florida international before working for florida international)
lest U forget ...
minor-league college athletics with a make-believe fan base subsidized by the strong-arm of an unsuspecting student body warrants scant attention from a major-league metropolitan newspaper ...
something's rotten at 1 herald plaza ...

BIGGER FISH TO FRY

green

https://www.facebook.com/miamihurricanes/likes

UM has had far superior teams, having won many national championships in football and baseball. That means that there is more to write about. Far more fans, moreover, go to Hurricane games. The followers of the Hurricane blog at MiamiHerald.com outnumber those following the Golden Panthers one by about 10-1, sports editor Jorge Rojas says.

There is, in other words, much more readership demand for coverage of the Hurricanes than of the Golden Panthers.
-- miami herald ombudsman 8/1/10

UM does and should get the greater share of sports coverage
-- miami herald ombudsman 8/8/10

the enormous University of Miami community should fight fire with fire by boycotting the f_cking faint-hearted herald for acceding to the outrageous demands of the 8th street extortionists ...
readership demand be damned ...

PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH

Jason

Barry,

The Canes being ranked 29th is pretty mediocre among BCS conference teams (ignoring the crap conferences).. maybe a bit higher than the average... Where would you rank the Canes?

Jason

green

it's where U finish that counts ...

HAPPY ENDINGS RENEWED

green

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/16/business/media/sony-and-viacom-reach-tentative-internet-tv-deal.html?_r=0

In a deal that may signal the start of a new era of competition for entrenched cable and satellite providers, Viacom has tentatively agreed to let its popular cable channels — like Nickelodeon and MTV — be carried by an Internet TV service that Sony is creating.
-- nytimes

How might this affect the ACCN? Is it really required or will the ACCDN be able to switch over?

The BTN is heavily dependent on the current cable model. What happens when they essentially become a subscription network.
-- Wolfman

The Big Ten will still make good money... nowhere near the projected $43M/yr (which, IMO, was NEVER going to happen anyway). They may even continue to make more money than the ACC, but if the whole paradigm is reset, that is very good news for the P5 conference in last place, revenue wise. The one bringing up the rear generally benefits from changing the rules.
-- Hokie Mark

MY SONY ONE SHINES SO SINCERE

green

https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/367671489392156672/photo/1

Not a great photo, but at FAU practice, watch for planes.
-- Tim Reynolds @ByTimReynold

ZE PLANE! ZE PLANE!

green

Barry,

The Canes being ranked 29th is pretty mediocre among BCS conference teams (ignoring the crap conferences).. maybe a bit higher than the average... Where would you rank the Canes?

Jason

Posted by: Jason | 08/17/2013 at 03:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEGqwIUWI2Q

Fun fact that many will steal as if they looked it up: 1983 Canes didn't get a single vote in the first 4 polls, and still won it all.
-- Tim Reynolds @ByTimReynolds

HOWARDS END

green

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/168631/terry-larrier

#Canesfam, according to @BFlinnFuture150, F Terry Larrier is strongly considering the U due to his relationship with commit Ja'Quan Newton.
-- Josh @JoshDaCane

On potentially playing with Newton: "That's my boy right there, we've talked about playing together"
-- Brian Flinn @BFlinnFuture150

TRACK YOUR PACKAGE

seltzerman

They were to be honored for their play on the football field not how they vote.This had nothing to do with anything political. BAD move on their part.I lost respect for all three.

green

https://twitter.com/JasonMizrachi/status/368827491982397440/photo/1

Great turnout for #CanesFest at the BUC! #GOCanes!
-- Jason Mizrachi @JasonMizrachi

MOVE 'EM ON, HEAD 'EM UP

Jason

Green,

If you think there's a strong correlation between being unranked and winning the NC I just have to saw wow !

The point with my question is simply trying to see if Barry sees the Canes being nationally relevant this year.

Jason

Keepin it real always

Hard to tell how much better the Canes are because plenty of folks are in obvious doubt as to whether or not the DEFENSE has improved.Seems like there s more talent and some young guys are more experienced.Does that translate into good team chemistry though?Is there enough leadership?The D line was so bad last year that plenty of people will be again holding their breath when the opposing teams have the ball.Until Miami s D can prove to be consistent at slowing or stopping teams mostly in the red zone......the jury will still be out.Come on season and let s get started.I have to think Miami s a Top 20 team .....at least.Can t wait to see what they can all do.Hope they got fight and swag.

Maria

Thanks Barry, Go Canes... Here we come Gators....

There's a storm brewing in Coral Gables.

@Keepin it real always - Everyone on defense should be BIGGER. Some guys have put on 25-30 lbs. of muscle so we should be more solid on D-line/LBs - someone needs to step up as the leader on D and we will be all good. Top 10 finish this year!

Barry Jackson

Jason, I might have put them a bit higher than 29th. But that's reasonable because of defensive issues last season.

Penguin

Shame on Manny, Bob, and Jim.

Al B. Certain

There have been a few "U" sighting over the last decade. Too many members of the media have been burned because of them, so everyone's very cautious (except for some fans, of course). I'm cautious, because I'm a bit biased. I'd like to see the defense do some old-fashioned defending. I'd also like to see improvement with the O-line, especially on short yardage plays.

Michael Smith

We"The U" need to stop the worthless on field celebrations and step up our level of intensity and skill position play. I am die hard UM fan, I bleed Orange and Green, no way I'd cheer for any other team, win, lose, or draw. Love them 'Canes since Jim Kelly, Otis Anderson, Jerome Brown, Melvin Braxton, and the list goes on and on and on. .. Lets go 'Cane Nation, lets get back to what we do, play big time football, win championships, and put'em in the league.Swagged out U style.

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