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Several analysts weigh in on Dolphins' picks Jarvis Landry and Billy Turner

LSU's Jarvis Landry, selected 63rd by the Dolphins in the draft tonight, caught 77 passes for 1193 yards and 10 touchdowns last season despite dealing with a foot injury in October, and dropped only one of the 106 passes thrown in his direction.

North Dakota State's Billy Turner, chosen 67th overall by Miami tonight, played left tackle in college but can easily make the transition to guard, where the Dolphins need him.

Some feedback from analysts on both, beginning with Landry:

### ESPN’s Todd McShay rated him 48th overall: “He is pound for pound the toughest, most physical skill player in this draft. He’s not that big. He doesn’t run very fast. But he belongs in the first two rounds because he has the best ball skills. He catches everything. He will run down and cover kicks. He will knock linebackers out on crack backs. I love this pick. He isn't an explosive vertical or run-after-catch threat, but he is a tough, physical competitor who does all the little things right. Landry uses quickness and savvy to separate from coverage.”

### NFL Network's Mike Mayock: “I had 10 favorite players in the NFL Draft. This is one of them. When you put the tape to watch [LSU first-round receiver] Odell Beckham play you can’t tell which one is Beckham [and which is Landry]. Landry ran a 4.7, and it dropped him down a little bit. I love the opportunity he’s going to have in Miami. He’s the toughest wide receiver – physically toughest wide receiver in this draft.”

### ESPN’s Mel Kiper: “Huge hands. He’s the hardest worker on that football team. He’ll be a slot receiver."

### ESPN’s Trent Dilfer compared him with Anquan Boldin, but without the size.

### NFLdraftinsider.net’s Tony Pauline:

Positives? “Consistent receiver best running underneath routes. Displays quickness, sells routes, and separates from opponents       exiting breaks. Resilient, works to make plays, and shows tremendous eye-hand coordination. Comes back to the ball to make himself an available target, effective when he extends and catches away from his frame. Makes the difficult catch in the middle of the crowd. Easily makes receptions running down field at full speed and effortlessly adjusts backwards to snatch the ball from the air. Despite his 40-time displays a burst, which he switches on in a single step.”

Negatives? "Possesses average size-speed numbers. Lacks top-end speed and the second gear. Started just one year on a full-time basis at LSU."

Bottom line: “Landry's not a prospect who passes the eyeball test rather a receiver who does the little things well and plays with consistent fundamentals. He has physical limitations but is a savvy route runner who would do very well in a timing offense.”

### NFL Network's Matt Millen: “He’s not a speed guy. But this guy will change the attitude of your team. He’ll challenge anybody who doesn’t work. I saw him do that at LSU. He’s a guy who demands you practice the way you play and that you play hard. This is a tough, tough sucker. I love this guy. And it’s rare to get that out of a receiver. Anquan Boldin has that same attitude. I remember when him coming out and he was a little banged up. But you knew he had it in him. Same thing with Andre Johnson. I think this guy is going to play for 10 years and just depend on.”

### NFLdraftscout.com’s Frank Cooney: “Along with Clemson's Sammy Watkins, was only other high school five-star receiver in this draft, so his talents have been known for a while. Arrives in draft with ample experience running pro-style routes. He is probably a more reliable go-to receiver than higher ranked teammate Odell Beckham, although the latter is more of a home-run threat. He is faster than his unfair 40-yard time of 4.77 at combine, where he ran with bad hamstring. He is more of a 4.60. Former prep basketball star with huge, strong hands and a tough-guy attitude that should make him a great target in a West Coast offense, and pretty effective in any scheme.”


Feedback on Billy Turner, selected 67th: (Pleased we were the first nationally to tell you of the Dolphins' interest in Turner in this blog on March 9 and again on April 23.)

### Mayock: "Showed a lot of potential [at the Senior Bowl]. Now is he raw? Yes. But he does have some potential. He’s got size. He’s got feet. I like the pick just because they have to rebuild that entire offensive line.”

### Kiper: "Played for dominant team at 1-AA. 15 starts left tackle last season and did not allow a sack. Against Kansas State, he graded out at 96 percent, 10 knockdown blocks in that upset of the Wildcats. This is a good 1-AA prospect who will impact the Dolphins' offensive line."

### NFL Network's Charles Davis: "He was darn good against Kansas State. Father played in the league. His grandfather told me at the Senior Bowl that you don't give my son enough credit."

### Tony Pauline: Positives: "Four-year starter named to numerous all-America teams since his junior season. Athletic, college left tackle who projects to the right side or guard in the NFL. Blocks with good knee bend and tremendous leverage and strong at the point of attack. Gets movement run blocking and annihilates opposing defensive lineman. Plays with a nasty attitude and works blocks. Sees the blitz and gets a pad on opponents to disrupt them from their angle of attack. Keeps his feet and hands active throughout the play, quick off the snap, and makes outstanding use of blocking angles. Easily gets out to the second level and shows the ability to hit a moving target. Takes out as many opponents as necessary off a single snap. Controls defenders once engaged in a block then seals them from the action."

Negatives: "Mechanical in his footwork. Does not display great lateral blocking range. Lacks balance and haphazard in his movement. Struggled at the Senior Bowl when he was outclassed almost every day in practice."
Final word: "Turner is a talented prospect who showed steady development in his game. He lacks the natural footwork and the ability to stay at left tackle but will have an opportunity on the right side. Turner offers starting potential down the road if he receives proper coaching and development at the next level."


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Looks like another close your eyes, cross your fingers, and wait and see season for Miami. This season will definitely be Philbin's last unless there is marked improvement. At least is should be.


8-8 at best. Nothing will ever change. Moronic to take a receiver instead of a linebacker.

Bart DePalma

Landry is a frigging vacuum cleaner like Welker with more size. Where Wallace refuses to fight for balls, Landry will fight for everything and usually wins. Gibson probably just lost his job as the slot receiver and Hartline will have serious competition for the role of Tannehill's go to blankie.

Turner was not paid attention to because he was a small school LT. However, he dominated when they played Kansas State and played damn well when they moved him out of position to RG and RT in the Senior Bowl. Turner is a mauler with the speed to get to the second level. I suspect he will end up starting at LG because Smith does not have Turner's physical gifts.

Get online and WATCH THE VIDEO on these guys.

I am liking Hickey more and more.


U had me pumped until you used Matt Millen as an example.


They cant stop the run.


The Dolphins first three draft picks make sense. James is a "plug & play" right tackle that not only fills a need, but was the best tackle available. In fact, Kouandjio and Moses, who many so-called experts said were first round picks, were drafted in the second and third rounds. Landry had almost 1,200 yards receiving for LSU and is considered the best possession receiver in the draft. He also fills a need because Hartline and Gibson are recovering from knee injuries. Finally, Turner, who excelled as a blocker in his division, will be converted to offensive guard which better suits his abilities. All of the experts on ESPN and NFL Network said it was a good pick that will help solidify the O-Line. While none of the picks have that "wow factor", they are sensible and will make the Dolphins an improved team.


Should have kept Ireland.


Finally drafting what is needed instead of trying to draft potential players who may or may not help. These guys will fill needs for us and the Landry pick may turn out to be a steal. Now go get D'andre Thomas for punt/ko returns and this adds another weapon and helps change field position.. The Dolphins need to trade up to get him. Finally address the qb with Murray/Morris and get the final selection a big run stuffing DL or Lb.. Barring injuries 10/11 wins this year..



Watch the tape on him against kansas state, he is a beaaaast.

Billy Turner, OT, North Dakota State

The offensive line drills are always fun to watch. I’m always impressed at how well those big fellas do cone drills, showing off their agility and athleticism.

Nevada’s Joel Bitonio was quite impressive in every drill, particularly during one in which the players had to rapidly shuffle to a specific cone pointed out by a coach while trying to stay low and keep the bar parallel to the ground. Oklahoma’s Gabe Ikard, Florida State’s Bryan Stork and the towering Morgan Moses from Virginia also impressed.

But it was Turner, the FCS player, who was grabbing a lot of attention. He has good size at 6-5 and 310 pounds, and a long-time NFL offensive line coach with whom I was talking said, “He has quick feet and good knee bend -- all the way to 90 degrees -- and he’s able to keep his chest upright while bending.”
That coach said Turner, who helped the Bison win three straight FCS championships, was the one lineman in the group who had impressed him the most on the first day of drills.


Dropped only one of the 106 passes thrown in his direction are you f@@@ kidding me!!! anybody complaining needs to stfu period. We have speed in Wallace and reliability in Landry, the kid will catch anything thrown his way and is a very, very good rout runner.


I see a pattern here. Hickey is drafting players with "attitude". The picks so far are showing players that get on the field and have the will and desire to win. I am pretty much over the grading of picks by the so called "experts". Too many players have been drafted that graded high, and simply couldn't hack it in the pros, and Los Pescados have certainly been amongst them. Any remember John Boza, Billy Millner, Sammy Smith, etc., etc. They guys drafted so far show ability, consistency, and "attitude", and I think that Hickey is trying to build a team with guys that are tough and consistent. Time will tell. If the Fins can build an O-Line, then this is going to be Tannehill's make it or break it year, as he will no longer have any excuses. Here's hoping that the Fish surprise a lot of people this season.

J R Whitmore

You whiners need to crawl back under your rocks. If you know so dang much, why aren't you a GM somewhere othe than your bathroom. If you were in charge the Dolphins would be trying to win with 49 receivers and 1 quarterback. Complete idiots.


Gaytors suck



Good post, both of you...it's good to see SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING about football, unlike most of these so-called fans here in South Florida!!



IBISNATION: you're a disgrace to UM fans.



You always have your fantasy, clueless dorks that expect all "impact players" Ask Millen, and the Lions how that worked out for them! A great hands WR that comes back for the ball, and challenges players? We need that, Wallace needs that! Mot of all Tannehill needs that type of WR!
We are bringing a new attitude to this team, and either fix, or trade awy next season ones that don't wise up ( Wallace, Pouncey) This is his first draft, and he'll have a few more and hopefully after a few seasons we'll be a competitive team. You'd be a moron if you expect a playoff run already.


J R Whitmore,I could not have said it better. For two days now all I have read from these loser trolls is negative crap. Most of these idiots must be Jets fans? Hmm,that would make sense. I feel the big difference with this team going into this season is a new OC and a new o-line coach. These guys,along with a lot of new talent will get us in the win column. The rest of you trolls can shove it!


Wallace never fights for the ball. Landry has terminator attitude in getting the ball. Turner adds depth and toughness to the OL and might be a good G and maybe fill in at C. I'm ok with these picks. We just have to wait for training camp and see how it unfolds. i expect another OL draft in the Sat rd.

The Boss

Love the Jarvis Landry pick and was surprised Hickey saw the many different ways he could help a team win.He s a real competitor,a fighter and has glue on his hands.Nice pick.Never heard of Turner but he seems an ok pick but I like it because it s still part of rebuilding the O line and the Phins stayed the course this draft and didn t act like they were done fixing it.IT can t be IGNORED.Now next year,Phins can get some sexy picks on defense and offense.What they got so far has filled obviously big but basic needs.No brainer.

Reality Bites

Here we go again with all the Saturday morning GM wannabe lower homers whining about Hickey and the draft. In reality it seems that he has done a very good job so far and has drafted plyers that wll make the team better. It seems to me that these 3 picks so far could see playing time a lot sooner than Ireland's last 3 top picks. Now I'm not saying the DE from Oregon that Ireland drafted last year at #3 is a bum, not at all. Just that there was no need for him and that the price to move up to get him was too high for the amount of playing time he got. And that is one of the many reasons we have Hickey now.

UMike calling another "a disgrace to UM fans" is precious, and very dissembling.

Go Heat!

It's in the breeze..... Troop.!!!

Hickey has addressed every single need save upgrading at linebacker. But still has half the draft to do that. By re-signing Grimes and Starks. Along with adding a player like Finnegan who is still young enough that a new start can get a once dominant SCARY corner back on track. Same with Delmas and keeping him from hurting himself hammering receivers. If you look at the players Hickey has focused on, Albert, James, Delmas, Moreno, Finnegan, Starks, Landry, Mitchell, Shelley Smith and picking up Pouncey's 5th year your see where he is drafting and acquiring toughness and players who play with attitude and a chip. The Dolphins got way too cute last year. They got pushed around. Instead of drafting 22 wide outs ands 10 QB's like the ball watching idiots would have. Hickey has drafted or acquired good strong football players. I'm looking forward to seeing what he does in the 4th, 5th 6th and 7th rounds. That gives more then enough room for hickey to address some of the run stopping issues. I believe just having another season together and getting the players we already have straightened out would already solve most issues. But adding a few guy to lend new blood can't hurt.


Huff would have been a much better pick. Hype Landry but dude will continue to have defenses shrinking the field on us and pressing. Why because we have one count it...one wr on this roster who can win one on one and get behind a cb. When you have no speed in your wr core defenses press and squat on all these short routes. Passing game will never work.

Guess it's a coincidence that many teams in the league have an x..y and some times a z who can run vertical routes and hit the home run in addition to taking a short route and getting consistent yac.

I challenge any one on this blog to find a clip of Landry running away from a defender in any capacity. Deep...or across the field. Every clip shows him catching the ball then getting hit. Sound familiar to any one? Passing game will continue to sputter and be trash.

Wallace has no other wr who defenses fear who can demand a double to help him. I feel bad for him playing in this offense with these wrs. Bet he misses Pitt lining up with Brown who is ultra quick can get yac..run 9 or the post route able to make chunk yardage plays consistently & command attention. Wallace's numbers will always be dog chit in a Miami uni. Give him a pass until we get at legit 1b.


Landry caught 77 passes
He was thrown 106 passes and dropped 1
-1 = 105
-77 =28
Who caught those 28 passes?

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