Can we chat about the tale-within-a-tale business for a minute? Muy meta, sure. But, are we really enjoying this? So let's see: Ilene Chaiken develops a TV show that reflects her real life, and she creates a character named Jenny in her image. Jenny becomes a screenwriter and director who in turn makes a movie about her own L world.
I suppose this is sort of fun. Though to me, it's mostly a stretch. Seems like a great inside joke for the cast and crew of the L Word. But is it an effective storyline otherwise? After all, what's great about the L Word is that it reflects our realities. REALITY being operative. You know, "This is the way that we live - and looooove!'' Remember how some fans bitched in the beginning because they said the show didn't ring true because of its too-rich, too-fab, too-lipsticked characters? Those were the days. Now we have to deal with this over-the-top Lez Girls situation.
We get it, we get it. There is always a certain amount of wackiness on a set. Actors let their foibles hang out for all to see. Managers and publicists are forever trying to sweep under the carpet certain aspects of their actors' personalities. And sh*t happens when you're cloistered together trying to film a project.
IC has told us in her newest podcast that the opener in Episode Seven, where the chicks who play Jenny and Marina get into some diva drama, should not be read as reflective of any real drama that Mia Kirshner and Karina Lombard may or may not have had in real life. Though, there were plenty of rumors to that effect after Season One. And then there's that stuff about actors in Lez Girls who are pretending to only play gay when they're actually gay in real life. It all makes you wonder what's true and what's not. And I guess that's the whole point.
But that leads to a natural question: If Jenny is getting it on with the actress who plays her, then should we wonder if IC got it on with Mia? Did those two ever get the trailers rocking on the set of the L Word? I actually asked Ilene this question a few weeks back.
"Why in the world would I answer that?,'' she responded, and you have to give her props for having a sense of humor. You know I was just joshin', Ilene.
But here is her straight answer about all those meta moments:
"What I would say to you and everyone else who's watching is that you can imagine and interpret some of the things you see to be true. And some not. We had a lot of fun with this. But even some of the cast has come up to me and asked 'Did that really happen?' I'm not going to answer all of the questions.''
If we can take from all of this that there possibly are actors on the L Word who are in fact gay but are pretending to only play gay, then we can imagine that at some point, Leisha Hailey (who is out in real life) might have uttered something along the lines of what her character Alice just did:
"What the f*ck is up with everybody these days? Am I like, some sort of idiot that I'm out? I mean, is the joke on me? 'Cause I don't get it.''
Word, Leisha. I mean, Alice.
As for Tasha and the whole Dont-Ask-Don't-Tell bit. Gotta love Rose Rollins. And you gotta love the powers at the L Word for tackling this issue. Though, usually when the L Word tackles an "issue,'' it makes the eyes glaze over. Then there is Kelly McGillis as the officer who is gonna bring Tasha down. Fun casting. Lord knows Kelly was a lesbian icon back in the day. But can we talk about her now? You know what, let's actually not go there.
Instead let's talk about Jenny and Jesse and the fact that they all of a sudden are in love. Really? Wait, I mean Jenny and Nikki. Hmm. Jenny, I'd say that between your suspect lead actress and even more suspect assistant, you could be going down worse than Kit Porter with a rat problem.
Which brings us to Dawn Denbo and her lover Cindy. Honestly, WTF is this whole storyline about? And lesbian Turkish oil wrestling? I mean, nothing wrong with a bunch of hot actresses getting dressed down and slicked up. But how ridiculous is the Denbo posturing? And why can't anybody say Cindy without preceding it with "lover?''
I'd be happier if the show spent a lot less time on these freaks and a lot more time on Shane and Molly. Because how fun was it when Molly compared Shane to the Fonz? And how much sass are these two bringing?
As for the latest in the BeTiJo triangle. Sigh. Things are just getting messier. Bette and Tina getting all flirty and cute on Bev and Nina's bed was beyond sweet. And hey, Tina's got pot. I have an idea. Why don't you crazy kids go somewhere quiet where you can get really stoned and then TALK YOUR SH*T OUT? Afterwards, you can have some more hot sex. Then we can all be happy.
Though, looks like Bette was not so happy when she came home from hanging around the Lez Girls set with Tina. Maybe she was frustrated because she wanted Tina, but couldn't have her. Reminds me of that original "Let's make a baby" scene from Season One, where Bette gets Tina all hot and bothered but then leaves her hanging because she has to go get her work on. How the tables have turned. Here Bette and Tina were about to kiss when all of a sudden Tina's gotta put work first and leave Bette hanging. How does it feel, Ms. AlphaBette?
I guess like hell, which is why Bette is so miserable when Jodi comes home all bright and cute and wanting to love on Bette. I know some folks were disturbed by the forceful way Bette threw Jodi down and then pleasured herself on top of her. And yeah, it's an awful way to treat your girlfriend. And clearly, this couple is in trouble. But, hey, it was still hot because this is Bette Porter we're talking about here. Sue me if I can get beyond the story and focus on the abs and the arms and the hot grunts.
Of course it's wrong for Bette to treat Jodi like a rag doll to hump on. So what made her do that? Was it about getting worked up by Tina earlier in the day?
"I don't know if it's just sexual frustration," Beals told me. "I don't think it was just about her pleasuring herself. I think she's angry at Jodi for not being who she wants her to be. She feels intensely guilty because she is doing the same thing she did before. Only it feels different because this person is the light of her life. She knows she has to pursue this to the end because if she doesn't she dies wondering what could have been. But she does love Jodi. And she has intense shame about what she's doing to her. She knows what she's doing to Jodi is really horrible.''
And seems like the powers edited that JoBette scene down. There was more to it when they filmed it, Beals said.
"In the end, she apologizes to her. She looks at her and says, 'I'm sorry.' ''
Yeah, Bette. Right now, you really are.
The JoBette scene was awful. How fucked up can it get? Jodi STILL didn't seem to realize something was amiss.. while Bette looked like she was two seconds from blowing her brains out with Kit's gun in the bathroom. If that isn't disconnect with your partner then I don't know how else they could show it more clearly.
Is IC trying to make me hate Bette? Because, really, I love Bette. I found a way to love her even after she cheated on Tina after the loss of a child which, let me tell you, is probably the most morally repugnant act we have seen on this show. However, she is killing me here. Its all mopey, whiny bull shit. The situation is all of her own creation. There is no way that I buy she loves Jodi in a romantic sense. From what, the 6 scenes in their entire relationship they haven't been sniping at each other? It just seems like drawn out BS to create "drama." Bette could have the "light of her life" if she got some balls and dropped her current girlfriend, Jodi, who the entire season has shown is wrong for in 10,000 ways that have nothing to do with Tina. I think that is what bothers me most. Bette acting like a pansy about breaking up with someone who it wouldn't work out with if Tina didn't exist. Their problems didn't start when Bette kissed Tina in 504. They were simply incompatible from the beginning which often takes some months to show itself. It shouldn't be a Tina v. Jodi thing at all because her relationship with Jodi is shitty independent of whether or not she and Tina reunite.
Tina this season is kick ass. I couldn't really stand her after IC killed the character in S3 but now I'm wondering why she is even interested in Bette. She is single, fun, flirting with people, and could probably get lots of hot ass. Why would she want to lower herself to be Bette's "maybe" girl on the side? Yeah, yeah, I see the connection. I think TiBette is one of the only redeeming things about this show at times. LuH and JB really sell it to me. I just think the writing is really lacking in the whole storyline right now. It is making Bette look awful and pathetic. Therefore, it would be nice if they showed her in a light that could get viewers to understand the attraction beyond that JB is hot and has mad chemistry with LuH. The writing in the execution of this triangle has just been a huge letdown.
Also, get MM off my screen if she isn't with a core character. Who cares about her ex-gf? Don't waste screen time that could be put to good use on someone viewers don't like with someone else nobody cares about. Boring.
This episode was such a filler. Hope E9 comes fast since E8 is up online now.
Posted by: HandsDown | February 18, 2008 at 02:50 PM
Yes I can agree more by the fact that making a movie within a movie, it’s kind of a filler, it smell some lack of inspiration. That would have been ok for one or two episodes, but since it looks like it is going to be the main subject of the year…Hum? Mind you, I never was a big Jenny’s fan, I was one of those who where almost hoping that she got lost on the raft in the middle of the ocean last season.. Tasha bring an important issue but god, I really mist the Dana seasons that was funny and refreshing. I hope this is not going to be a killer for Season 6. So... 507 wasn’t really wow for me!
Posted by: FrenchLady | February 18, 2008 at 03:11 PM
I'm sorry but I don't feel sorry for Bette. Bette is her own worst nightmare,if it isn't working and Jodi isn't who you want her to be then end it instead of being a coward, and pulling Tina into your nightmare. Bette is a mess, and doesn't need to be in a relationship with anyone, she only brings that person down and sucks the life out of them.
Posted by: Sheri | February 18, 2008 at 03:24 PM
Well I just watched 508 - First let me explain I pitched a royal bitch about the poor writing, storyline, dialogue and this fucking cast of characters -- again.
Also the whole Bette - Tina going from a romantic high, right to sleeze. Seems tlw is right back to the same ole crappie, crap.
But; then I watched 508 - well shit I don't know who wrote or who directed but; KEEP THEMM.......
Absoultely the best crafted, best directed ep and just about everything inbetween. Not enough TiBette but; otherwise fucking flawless. I'm speechless, well ok maybe not.
But I knew where I was - in every scene and knew how I got there - fucking A.
REAL dialogue, story flowed and made sense. For me NOT one real WTF moment - yeah a few close ones, but; hey they went from low level mediocrity to excellence - WOW.
I don't know how others feel but; I'm so happy to see Bette take some responsibility, understand she is a parent. The way their doing what their doing is wrong. And yes - she suggested they see DAN the MAN. Bette I love you all over again...
People keep saying why is she staying with Jodi, I don't think Jodi is the issue. Remember Bette has lost Tina "twice" and I'm sure a third time would surely kill her.
My question is if tlw can do an ep this good once why can't they do it more often.
PS I got the Jodi sex thing, yeah it was hard to watch but; I got it...
Posted by: btfan2 | February 18, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Epsiode 7 was awful; the film within a film thing may have been a lot of fun for the people making it but like all inside jokes it is getting tedious. The same can be said for the ridiculous Denbo & partner.
I thought Kelly McGillis brought some gravitas to the DADT storyline. And Tasha is a fool not to take her offer of an honourable discharge but then I guess that would be too much like real life for this show. A melodramatic courtroom scene is much more their style.
Bette is a coward, pure and simple and Jodi must be dumber than I thought not to realise that something is amiss in that relationship. Handsdown is right, Bette needs to grow some balls.
This weeks writer obviously had trouble remembering who Alice was in this episode too because first up she's an unprincipled mouth for hire on TV then she's poster child for the out and proud.
What a waste of 50 mins.
Posted by: TERESA | February 18, 2008 at 04:38 PM
Hate Bette? So not going there! Maybe I'm amazed that JB and LH hang in there spewing the stupidest lines, or maybe Tibette is like a drug, I dunno, but love me some Bette and Tina, and this season I'm jonesin on both.
Of course, if I could get a moment to drop kick Bette into the next season and ask Tina wassamatterwitu, I would, cause Bette with no stones is a pitiful sight to see.
Then again, you know how 'love can make you do foolish things' and how stupid we all are when we're trying to avoid confessing that we lie and we suck?
Well this season, Bette's showing us that we also look like dumbfuck jackasses when we do it.
Things I've learned from the L Word #38... Tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, but if all else fails, make a booty call to your baby's mama. Drama will follow, but it'll be good drama, really.
Things I've learned from the L Word #39... Winning an Oscar can make your future characters stupid!
Posted by: itsanaddams | February 18, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Lydia,
Thanks again for bringing the quotes and insight. In a minor way, it eases the frustration this fan feels watching at times.
I don't know, maybe it was just the shear, utter drop from the Bette/Tina high of ep6 that made this episode drag. Maybe it was the giggling, giddy nonsense of 20 somethings that turned me off. Or, way too much movie in a movie. Turkish oil wrestling? Really? For who? Check your intelligence at the door. Not necessary.
It's episodes like this that yank me back into reality and remind me the TLW should come with a warning label. WTF's Ahead. Caution - Frustration.
Bette, stop it. Seriously, why all the anguish? Jodi's been jerking you around since mid-S4. You know, as well as I, that she never compared to Tina. And, Tina's giving you all the signals you need to put an end to the self-imposed misery. Enough already.
I am not even going to comment on the WTF'ness of Bette/Jodi. It makes no sense to me.
Posted by: colorado fan | February 18, 2008 at 07:06 PM
If you think this week was a WTF in terms of Bette and Tina, just wait for the next episode. I just viewed it in OurChart. Are these women EVER going to talk to each ohter? How can two smart people who love each other so much do and say the dumbest things?
I won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet, but this TiBette fan is about to give up on all the nonsense. Lydia, if you've seen beyond 508 please give us some hope that the TiBette storyline gets better.
Posted by: Sue | February 18, 2008 at 07:22 PM
Hi Sue,
I haven't seen to the end, but I have seen through 10, and the storyline does get better. Or, I should say, more intense. They do some talking, like Jennifer Beals told us earlier in the season that they would. No idea what happens ultimately, but Bette and Tina are definitely going to go through a lot of emotions. Bette in particular is going to have to come to terms with her cheating and with what it is she really wants.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 18, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Hi Colorado,
You're right, Bette is just unbearable right now. And the way the story is written doesn't help. I get that Bette is scared to commit to Tina again, because Tina has left her more than once (not that Bette doesn't carry a lot of the blame for this.) Tina running off nearly killed Bette. And yet, she knows Tina is the love of her life. So if she were being a healthy adult, she would discuss this with Tina and try to come to a place where she either trusted her again, or concluded that they just shouldn't be together. Sometimes, love is not enough and all that jazz. But hey, at least this show is highlighting for some of us that we're actually somewhat mature and in pretty decent shape emotionally. But then, who isn't compared to Bette and Tina?
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 18, 2008 at 08:26 PM
Hi FrenchLady,
Stay tuned. I think after 8, you will find a couple of episodes that are pretty wow. At least when it comes to Bette and Tina.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 18, 2008 at 08:34 PM
Handsdown,
You're right about Jodi being out to lunch when it comes to Bette in this episode. She should have totally noticed that Bette looked miserable when she came home. And if the whole violent throwdown thing didn't give her any clues, then when Bette was done pleasuring herself and started crying, that should have alerted her that something was off. But you can't blame Jodi. You have to blame the writers and the editors. How can Jodi watch Bette cry at the end of that scene, and not ask what's up, and in fact, move on in the following episode (which I know a lot of folks have already watched on OurChart) as if nothing at all happened. That's just, I don't know, bad writing.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 18, 2008 at 08:41 PM
Hey Sheri,
Who knows. Maybe that's what happens in the end. Bette ends up alone so that she can try to get her sh*t together. She is totally a coward. But, I do understand her.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 18, 2008 at 08:44 PM
Hi Btfan,
I liked this: "REAL dialogue, story flowed and made sense. For me NOT one real WTF moment."
Ha. We're ultimately so easy to please.
Funny, below I echoed without realizing it the thing you said about Bette losing Tina twice. In total agreement with you. Bette is still suffering some post traumatic stress from the events of her life. That can be her only excuse for acting so stupid right now.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 18, 2008 at 08:54 PM
i enjoyed the ep and i dont mind the movie within a movie-- given the 'filler' we've had in the past like mark and the secret video cameras, jenny and the carnival/holocaust flashback sequences (really, have we forgotten the klezmer version of the theme song in one of those trippy holocaust flashes), kit and ivan, kit and mangus, kit and toejam the motivational speaker... well, the movie within a movie seems freaking refreshing. plus it gives dykey tina the opportunity to swagger around the movie set, and THAT is not a bad thing at all.
what i can live without is the jenny assistant/single white female story line. note to IC...yeah, that's been done already.
as for tibette: in real life, i must say, i know very few people who bail out of one relationship before the thing they are parachuting into is sure. it aint pretty, and i wish it wasn't so no matter the end of it ive been on, but unfortunately it is reality.
it would be much better if bette would tell jodi she's going off to explore things with tina, but things rarely happen that way in the real world.
also bette and jodi are believable enough to think bette would feel really guilty about just tossing jodi off. of course, she should feel even more guilty about cheating on her and ultimately making a fool out of jodi. but alas, rationalization rears its head again.
that said, that masturbate on top of your girlfriend like she's the arm of a sofa was cold. but then bette has been cold before. remember the twink in ny, whom she did in the hotel room from behind in that dont turn around i dont need to see your face fashion.
bette has issues. especially when she doesnt get just what she wants.
i do agree with lyd and some of the others here that bette is justified in feeling wary of tina. i would. tina left bette for a dude. sure bette cheated first and that was awful, but chronology rarely matters in these instances.
it is time for them to TALK already, tho.
oh, and re kelly mcgillis. wow. i cant decide if that is just an extreme make up job or she has aged that much. nothing wrong with age, but she looks much older than 51. she looks older than cybil s. for god's sake and cybil must have a decade on kelly.
im thinking it is the make up. cause the only things that are remotely recognizable are her voice and her eyes.
Posted by: lisalisa | February 18, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Bette Porter, I love you to pieces, but you're giving me a fucking headache! Seriously.
It's certainly not very intelligent drama, brilliantly written drama or very realistic drama.
But hell is it HIGH drama and I for one love it!
I can rant about Bette not getting her head out of her ass and love her madly at the same time, I can loath Jodi simply for being on my screen, I can drool about the cutest lines that have ever come out off Tina's mouth. "Maybe this side" anyone? *swoon*
And whenever something becomes too hard to justify I just blame it on the writers or Ilene.
I willingly let that show manipulate my sense of right and wrong and good or bad. High drama, 'ya 'll!
Bring on episode 9!
Posted by: invisigoth | February 19, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Lydia,
I have to say I disagree with you completely, while I'll admit that this wasnt a great episode, I am really enjoying this season. I DO NOT want "real-life" on TV, reality TV is bane of my existance, I cant understand how people go so ga-ga for crap such as Big Brother, Dancing with the Stars, etc. I think the meta thing is great and suits the L Word perfectly because be honest, the fans make sci-fi fans look casual! We are obsessed with the inner-workings and behind the scenes of the show, that pointed comment of Tina's about reaching a wider audience answers your critism quite well too, there has to be an effort to draw the straighties too. I personally love the fact that the actress are all really pretty, and the "lover Cindi" thing still makes me laugh everytime someone says it. As for the Jodi thing, yes its a big mess, but it was always going to be a big mess, we knew that right from the awkward kiss between Bette and Tina at the end of season four. The most annoying thing is how clueless Jodi is, I kind of understand why Tina and Bette are behaving the way they are but Jodi's utter lack of observational skills all of a sudden is RIDICULOUS! Maybe we're supposed to believe she really loves Bette and so she cant see what's right in front of her because her heads is in the clouds.
And finally, its episodes like this that make me adore spoilers, (I was in no way dissapointed last week, the spoilers only made it better!!!) because I can sit through and try to understand the painful Tibette moments when I know there's something good coming soon.
Posted by: foxysox | February 19, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Hi Lydia,
IMHO, I think the problem with TLW is more the fact that there’s way to much newcomers and irrelevant characters. They are superficial and take a lot of space on a small 12 episodes series. The story of the main characters is in the fast lane toward what exactly? Where are those good and funny conversations they used to have at the planet? (That’s how we develop the compassion during those four seasons?) What was nice with the previous seasons, everybody had their own little drama but interacted with one another. Now, the feeling of a tight knit group of friends seems to be less present. The JoBette story made many mad fans, in a way that was good, it make us more avid for the TiBette reunion. They have to earn it (even if we don’t agree with the path). Isn’t it what a drama series is supposed to do? play with the viewers emotions! That’s what made this season so desirable, we kwon that the wind have to blow on our side.
It’s time now, we’re more than ready!
Just for fun, try to name more than a few new characters!
Funny how we still remember the name of Benjamin Bradshaw, a very fast
(two episodes) not so relevant character!
Finally, in your opinion, when do you think they are going to announce if there’s going to be another season?
Posted by: FrenchLady | February 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Hey LisaLisa,
You're not wrong. The Lez Girls filler crap is a lot less crappy than some of previous filler crap. And you're also right about real relationships and how there is often overlap. Why must you always be so reasonable? Frankly, in terms of my L Word enjoyment, it doesn't really matter whether Bette is the model of propriety. Which is why I wasn't mad at her when she pleasured herself on top of Jodi, or when she yanked that twink's hair, or did Nadia in the car and then cold-dissed her. She's hot when she's bad.
Thank you for setting me straight.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 20, 2008 at 06:44 PM
Invisigoth,
Like lisalisa, you seem to have your priorities right. Bring on 9 and beyond!
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 20, 2008 at 06:47 PM
Foxy,
Good point about the spoilers: at least knowing something good is around the corner helps deal with the episodes where it seems all is lost.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 20, 2008 at 06:53 PM
FrenchLady,
I don't know when they're announcing whether the show is getting picked up again or canceled. In previous years, they didn't wait this long in the season to say they got renewed. So, who knows?
And yeah, true, there are way too many irrelevant characters on this show.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 21, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Hi-yas,
Just wanted to add my two-bits to this week's conversation.
Firstly, I am way over the Lez Girl story line. A couple of episodes of that as a means of characterizing Tina's new strength and self confidence was/is enough. Yes it is a bit superior to most of the other subplots from past seasons, but that ain't saying much. I am ready for Lez Girls to be over.
Secondly, the Bette and Jodi ‘throwdown’ scene was shocking. I didn't see that coming, which is part of why I appreciated the scene. It was disturbing to watch, but I thought it was important and necessary to show the complex, conflicted emotions going on within Bette. Her behavior was a momentary collapse into her shadow which is exactly where everything that we don’t deal with directly goes to hide. Bette is struggling with her issues. No surprise that her shadow expressed itself. Still, I never expected it to express in just that way. That is what makes for good (didn’t say great) drama. For my money it was a good scene. HOWEVER, I absolutely did not like the way the scene was edited. That last little bit where Bette is tenderly holding Jodie (I gather from a Lydia’s post that Bette was apologizing) should not have been so severely edited. Either drop that bit altogether (which is what I am going to do when I edit my recording of the episode) or let us more fully see both sides of Bette -- her shadow and her Light -- within that scene. We never heard her say I’m sorry. We just saw this tender moment after the dark spell without context. Too jarring.
Also, I wanted to give a shoutout for Bette and her sense of loyalty, her noble attempt to not cause more pain, particularly someone who loves her. Bette has always been characterized as loyal (except for that little slipup with Candy . . .). She obviously feels additional torment because of the sacrifice Jodie was willing to make (or did it fact make) to give up her professorship in order to protect Bette from controversy (that whole student with a gun thing). The pained look on Bette’s face when Jodie announced she would resign rather than subject Bette to the controversy spoke volumes. I respect that Bette is trying to do the right thing here. It is more than a little bit apparent that loyalty is not going to win out over the passion and love she has for Tina. As Bette has already said, it just does not compare. I am willing to wait and let this struggle play out (it makes Bette more noble in my eyes), but I would just as soon never see another sex scene between she and Jodie. Absolutely no chemistry there.
Thirdly, I love the whole Shebar thing, including the Turkish Lesbian Oil Wrestling (whatever it was called). Nothing like a good cat fight to spice things up. I thought the oil wrestling was fun and funny, especially Shane’s takedown of Dawn. I love emotional intensity, the opportunity to see growth and transformation in the characters (Tibette) and I like that bit of seriousness being juxtaposed with the fun and silliness of the Shebar storyline. That probably puts me in the minority, but hey that's okay.
And finally, the addition of Kelly McGillis to the show is a good one. You can bet she will ace this role. Regrettably, she is not aging well, and I don’t mean that unkindly. I saw her in a movie on Lifetime or somewhere a few months back where once again she was playing a lawyer. I had to check the credits to make sure it was in fact her. I thought then that someone in makeup was not doing her a service. Obviously, it was not the makeup. Some women just don’t age well (or take good enough care of themselves so that they age well). But, she is still fun to watch. Good actress.
Posted by: Gwen-elle | February 21, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Hi Lydia,
Received the rest of the episodes yet? Spoilers are out y'all. Am am so very looking forward to them all. Watched 508 on ourchart, now i'm trying to fast forward time to march 2.
Posted by: jaq | February 22, 2008 at 09:56 PM
Hi,
I’m amazed; to see how many are watching the series trough Bits and pieces that is available on the web (pictures here, clip there). “Quel rabat-joie” (what a kill-joy). I know and feel the temptation, but come on, what’s a week! (I’m not talking about you Lydia that is your job)
Call me old fashion, but when I was a teenager (in the mid-70’) you had to appreciate the moment and desire the Future. There was no Ipod, no cd, if you had a desire to ear a song, you had only one option: go home and put the record on the turntable. With the new technology, peoples are living in the future. Don’t get me wrong, I own and Ipod…and new technology is fantastic, but there is a lack of desire in this era, every thing is fast food. (I’m not the one who discovered to the problem, just see the amount of books available, on how to live the moment). I guess it can start with something as simple as: waiting for a week and make the next Sunday night a special night!
Posted by: FrenchLady | February 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM
FrenchLady,
Instant gratification is alive and well in our society and technology makes it possible. I wish I had the self control to let the season unfold in nice weekly installments. If I a modicum of trust in IC, I could have let the drama unfold in due course knowing I was in good hands and would arrive safely at a satisfying conclusion. IC has demonstrated on more than one occassion that she can't be trusted and is willing to sacrifice any character, at any cost, to get the stories to bend to her will, even it it doesn't make one iota of sense. I do understand this is her show and she calls the shots. But, it's my choice to watch, buy DVD's, etc.
All that to say, yes, I have succumbed to spoilers and it appears that I can finally sit back and just enjoy the drama as it unfolds. That's a relief for this fan. Going into S5, I fully expected the worst. So much so, for the first time I seriously considered not tuning in this year. I had a running debate going on in my mind, yes/no/yes/no/yes. If I hadn't seen the spoilers, I would have caught S5 on DVD.
I have really enjoyed S5. I think it's the best season by far and a large part of my enjoyment is Bette and Tina's journey. I am looking forward to the remaining eps.
Posted by: colorado fan | February 23, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Hi FrenchLady,
I totally agree with you about the spoilers. I understand wanting to know what happens. And as soon as I get review copies of the L Word, I watch them. I need to stay ahead to do my job. But either way, I'd want to know. I fact, now I've seen them all and I know exactly how it all ends. And that definitely takes the fun out of it. Oh well.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 24, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Hey Jaq,
Yeah. Watched them. Still trying to decide what I think about it all. It's kind of -- well, I don't know. Just a tad too much going on. Let's hope there's one more season so things can end on a tighter, neater note.
Posted by: Lydia Martin | February 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Hi Lydia,
Thanks for replying. I think I get what you mean by "a tad too much going on". From what I've read, it seems IC and co. were trying to cram everything in 12 episodes, and try and bookend stuff. I sure hope we get another season, maybe a final season with 15 episodes or something. This season, we see lots of gaping holes, and although some are not central or important to the main show, the fact that the storylines were started, made it seem as though they went missing in the bermuda triangle, never to be heard/seen again. I'm no fan of Max, but he's gone missing. Don't get me started on Helena although IC has already admitted her "mis-direction".
Maybe with more episodes per season, more stories could have been told/developed better. Lez Girls is really taking too much time and way too much drama in my opinion. Just my 2 cents.
Let's hope for a Season 6.
Posted by: jaq | February 25, 2008 at 03:13 AM
tanx
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