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The Hot Stove: Virginia, Spurrier, BC, recruiting and the worst season ever?

With the UM basketball team out of town and the Canes football team playing at Virginia, I got my first weekend off in three months. So if your wondering why I skipped on the 5 Most Important Things and Sunday Shout Outs this weekend, you've got your answer. I was enjoying life. Besides, I figured there probably aren't too many Canes fans left who actually care about this season anymore.

VirginiatdAfter all, it has to be the worst Hurricanes season I've watched in my 28 years on earth. Did I watch Saturday's game? Yes. It was painful. What did any of us really learn about this team from this recent loss we didn't know already? I'll say this about Saturday's 17-7 loss (not that it deserves much): Why on earth did the coaching staff wait until the final 5 minutes to start throwing the ball downfield? Did they miss the video of FSU's rout of Virginia two weeks ago? Anyway, like I said before, this season is shot. The likelihood of a UM victory Thursday against Boston College is slim. The Canes are banged up physically and the emotional toll is beyond repair. A win over BC at this point would be the result of some guys -- namely the seniors -- on this team playing out of their minds because they don't want to go out on a 5-game losing streak and be known as the leaders of the worst team at UM in the modern era.

Anyway, the real point of discussion here for Canes fans are the latest developments regarding next year's new coaching staff. I know it hasn't been reported as official yet. But is there any real reason to believe Coker and company will be back? Most in the biz believe the decision of his departure will be made Friday morning. Stay tuned.

SpurrierAs for the possible replacements: A few weeks ago I told you all one of my sources told me South Carolina's Steve Spurrier was UM's No. 1 choice. Canesport apparently found other sources on the UM campus who are saying the same things. Spurrier may have denied the rumors Sunday. But stop for a moment and think about why. He's still the coach of South Carolina. He's got a job. For him to come out and flat out say he is interested in the midst of his season would be stupid. He's got recruits to worry about if he doesn't decide the money is right. Same for Schiano. The bottomline in this business for the people involved to deny, deny, deny until a deal is completely finalized. Was it just me, or did any of you hear Butch Davis on Hank Goldberg's show last week deny he had any serious discussions on the North Carolina job? Two days later, UNC made the formal announcement Davis was going to be its coach.

If anything good came out of Sunday's latest rumor mill -- and the Canesport article by Gary Ferman -- is that UM is apparently sending out the message it is interested in spending big bucks. Of course, that's no guarantee until the Hurricanes pull the trigger. But where there's smoke, there usually is fire. And if that's the case, the fact the school is apparently willing to spend the money to make an immediate fix should make Canes fans happy.

Some people have asked why didn't UM can Coker in the middle of the season and open up the coaching search early? In the end, I feel like Paul Dee and the rest of the powers that be at UM felt the need to at least give Coker the rest of the season. After all, didn't he win a national title? I feel like Dee felt he owed Coker at least that. Besides, to me, I don't know what good firing Coker in the middle of the season would have honestly done anyway. Common sense tells you everyone who could be a possible replacement is probably in the middle of coaching another team. Well, what about Butch Davis (I'm sure you're thinking)? I don't think he was ever seriously someone The U was considering. And I'm sure that message was delivered in some way.

Oops. Before I forget, here's a recruiting update:
-- Expect Monsignor Pace DB DeMarcus Van Dyke (an early UM committment) to spurn the Canes and pick Florida along with cousin, RB Armando Allen, when the two announce their decision together on Dec. 1.
-- Of the nine oral commitments UM currently has, the only ones I'd say are locked in stone are RB Graig Cooper (No. 1 Prep School Player in the country), Belle Glade Glades Central DB Damien Berry, JUCO WR Kayne Farquharson, OL Harland Gunn, recent addition WR Taurus McKinley (Berry's teammate) and QB Nick Fanuzzi.
-- Defensive back Phelon Jones (a four-star recruit from Alabama) was one of the original nine oral commitments. But he told several recruiting gurus recently the murder of Bryan Pata has his parents concerned.  Plus, Phelon has been checking out other schools of late. Doesn't sound like a guy headed here.
-- Defensive tackle Chris Perry, a 6-3, 319-pound defensive tackle from Texas (an original UM oral commitment) recently took an unofficial trip to Oklahoma. Perry of course made his solid commitment "a soft one" two months ago when the rumors of a major overhaul at UM began to appear imminent.

OK. I'm done reporting and ranting. It's your turn. These are the items for debate:
1. Should UM give defensive coordinator Randy Shannon consideration for the coaching job and instead of spending big money, give Shannon a chance to be the leader of this program?
2. Should UM use Thursday's game as an exhibition for freshman and sophomores and the future leaders of this team? Or should they play their best and try to win and salvage a meaningless bowl berth?
3. Has this been the worst season and stretch ever for the Hurricanes? If not, what has been the worst/stretch ever?

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This has been the worst season in the modern cane era. i can't believe we have fallen this far. why the coaching staff hasnt just opened everything up and go for it is beyond me. what are they waiting for? they have nothing to lose except there jobs that they are going to lose anyway.

This has been the worst season ever. I hate to agree with Dan LeRetard but Spurrier would not be a good fit here. Additionally, I would not like to see Barry Alvarez either. The man we REALLY should go after should be Bobby Petrino from Louisville. Thursday's game should still be played hard so that the seniors still can go to a bowl game, no matter how meaningless that game is.

Just hope that whoever takes over starts rebuilding this program immediately. It's a shambles and can't believe Coker was even allowed to stay on for another season after that debacle against LSU in the Peach Bowl. Larry may be a nice guy but he's a terrible coach who lost control of the team and has been far more trouble than he's been worth. I was amazed to hear that he makes about $2,000,000 a year.

Not worth a penny of it IMHO. Let's get someone who can get this ship righted. This has been the most pitiful and inept team I've seen since the '70's. It's way past time for a CHANGE!

This isn't even close to 1975-1977. Those teams were a combined 8-24, and three of the eight wins were against FSU which was in worse shape than Miami. If Miami can not get a big name coach, i.e. Mark Richt, Greg Schiano, Tommy Tuberville, then they might as well give Shannon a shot. If they aren't going to get a proven coach, Randy deserves the chance. it's the seniors last home game as Hurricanes. Of course they should get the opportunities.

The play calling for the Virginia game was pathetic. That Olsen is a major step down from Werner is amazing.

Susan or Manny, (whoever wrote this column)
You're wrong. Coker didn't win the national championship. Ken Dorsey and company won it. We all know it's been a downhill slide from there.
Question: will the Mimai powers that be, be able to stomach Spurrier roaming the sidelines and throwing his visor? I admit, I hated "the evil genius" for years, but would love to see him come to the U.

Almost forgot!
When Spurrier was getting ready to go back to coaching college, (the only true football left) he said he wanted to go someplace warm where he could play golf year round. It gets cold in South Carolina, too cold for good golf. E-mail him and remind him that we have the Blue Monster.
Thanks

Rich Olson's horizontal offense might be the worst offense in all of football. I'm not just talking college football I'm talking high school too. 3rd and 10? Throw a 3 yard out to the tight end. 3rd and nine? Throw a 2 yard out to wide receiver. Virginia has a horrible secondary and they don't call a deep pass until the last 5 minutes? That folks is how losers are made. When you coach trying not to lose you become a loser.

spurrier is smarter than that. he wouldnt want to come to miami. He is however jacking up the price to screw with you all!! haha He is also arrogant, and wants badly to show he can win at south carolina. Just wait til he gets a team full of HIS recruits . . the SEC will be his again.

he is after all, a Florida alumnus, and will enjoy messing with you whiny orange losers. why would spurrier want to come to miami to get spit on?

Dee should be fired with Coker. He watched as a storied program crumbled.

Dee should be fired with Coker. He watched as a storied program crumbled.

Dee should be fired with Coker. He watched as a storied program crumbled.

I think the University of Miami will do itself an injustice by not considering Coach Shannon for the head coach position if/when Coker resigns or is fired. He is the only Miami coach to ever win the Assistant Coach of the Year award. He has turned down many head coach positions to stay with the “U”. They hired Coker from within and nobody was trying to hire him away from us. Many schools would love to have Shannon as either their Head Coach or Defensive Coordinator. He is a Miami native and also played for the “U”. He is considered one of the best assistant coaches in the nation and his defensive unit is always highly ranked. The problem is the offensive and everyone knows it. If they would have put up 21 points a game we would be have only lost two games (UL and GT). I pray that he is considered and hopefully race will not play a part in the “U” decision making process. It would be a shame to lose him because the “U” did not realistically consider him for the head coaching job.

Le Batard has it right. Don't hire Spurrier. He's old news. UM needs someone younger, hungrier, more innovative on offense and very aggressive in S. FL recruiting. Need to find QBs and WRs, from anywhere in US, who will fit into the new offense. Improve the passing game and the current group of young RBs will get more yards. Current defense is more than sufficient to win. Then fans need patience. It will take 1-2 years to rebuild into a new system. Best wishes to Larry Coker, a first-class person, who will do well in a lower pressure coaching job. GO CANES!

The offensive play-calling on Sat was PITIFUL (as it has been for nearly 3 years). Did we not just learn last weekend that Kirby has legs and does a good job when rolling out of the pocket once in a while, yet he doesn't roll out even once Sat? The run-run-pass scheme is way too predictable. Not throwing downfield was stupid. Throwing 3 yards when you need 9 was even stupider. Throwing a downfield pass to a slow TE was the most stupid, but by then it was too late anyway.
Anyways, Coker and Olson will be gone by Friday. But they will be laughing all the way to the bank. From now on, they should put in the contracts that if they have a losing season (in the ACC or overall), the contract can be voided and they aren't owed anything. I think Dee and Shalalala should leave too while they are at it.
I don't usually harp on the defense, but why do we continue to see the whole defensive team fall badly for mis-direction plays? This is going to get worse and worse as more teams go to the spread option offense.

I feel Coker should have been dismissed last year instead of all the other coachs. Yes, he did win one championship with Butch Davis's players. He also blew the second one to Ohio State by playing for a tie instead of the win. He has never shown the killer instinct against other teams that the Canes were once known for in football. No one fears the Canes anymore. We need a coach who can discipline and recruit. I feel some of the Freshman we have could become good players with the right coach.

Paul Dee needs to put down the fork and start looking for a new coach! LC needs to go ASAP!

DOES ANYBODY THINK IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT BOB STOOPS MIGHT BE INTERESTED?

I'm getting old, and I'm tired, so my recollection may be off some, but...

Doesn't Stoops have a clause in his contract that if he wins a National Championship he gets a bump in salary to make him the highest paid coach in NCAAF? And didn't his Natty from a few years ago push him over $2M. And lastly, I think he's owed a $3M bonus if he stays through 2008.

If I am lucid, that is a lot to walk away from.

POINT MADE....NEXT!!!

Randy Shannon was instrumental in bringing the Canes out of probation and his unit is the only ones playing like the team we've come to expect. I also believe he is tied in to the local recruits which will be important if we are to turn this around. I say give him a shot!

http://www.saynotospurrier.com

http://www.saynotospurrier.com

The University of Miami should can the entire staff and let the world know Greg Schiano is the only Coach in the country who can recruit Dade County Respectfully. With no disrespect to the job he did @ Rutgers, it would have never transpired if the "U" would have named Schiano, coach instead of Coker 5-6 years ago. I think Schiano is ready for the "U" his experience level is up and the opportunity might not be open for many years to come. I think with the announcement of Schiano, recruits will take notice and get excited again. If Paul Dee and Shalala or She-nene whatever, her name is needs to be firm, generous and ready for change. The "U" is bigger than the University it is the way of Life in Dade County. To be honest I knew all was coming to an end when I saw a RUTGERS BILLBOARD on I-95 showing off how many Dade County stars they have stolen over the last several years. Now Butch will attempt to do the same! Just like Jimmy Johnson said speed, speed and more speed. The "U" needs to speed up their rebuilding process and dominate again.

I have something to say to all those recruits out there. If you want to be the Man who turns it around step up, All those long days training watching UM games dreaming about being the next #47, #14 or #98 stay home and let's get our team back

IF YOU ARE A SENIOR IN DADE COUNTY THE ONLY SCHOOL IN YOUR MIND SHOULD BE THE UM. ALL OF YOU PAST AND PRESENT WHO PASSED ON THE "U" SHOULD FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATS GOING ON NOW. I THINK UM SHOULD SIGN EVERY ALL DADE PLAYER RUNNER UPS, HONORABLE MENTION. FOR GET ABOUT OUT OF STATE TALENT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES AND Schiano IS THE MAN WHO HAS THE KEY TO EVERY PLAYER IN THE COUNTY FRONT DOOR.

Shannon unfortunatly will NOT get a shot to coach the "U". the powers that be will remember their last experiment with promoting from within... aka the coker experiment.... didnt work.. so shannon will not be given any serious thought... which might end up gettin him upset about it as schiano did.... but where will he end up.... possibly w/ the new athletic director over at the cross town school... dare i say FIU... scary thought big name recruits chosing FIU OVER UM (really scary) shannon is the best option on the staff to succeed coker but wont be given a shot... although i dont think spurrier will come down here nor schiano whoever wrote this artical is correct in saying it would be stupid of them to announce that they were interested both coaches are still playing for bowl games (schiano a possible bcs game if he beats WVU) if the U is set on stealing a coach it wont be made aware till after bowl games ... and there is the problems cause by then ... recruiting will be put to shit. and thats another year down the hole.

Of all the past situations where a head coach was rumored to leave their program for another, I never saw a reporter not back down when the coach actually came out and said, “I’m not leaving!” CSTV will not back down from their reports. They are still saying that Spurrier will leave. Then they get another report that confirms their orignial report? This is very odd. When I saw that report that Spurrier would come to UM, I ignored it cause it’s so far fetched. But, the fact that CSTV is not backing down from their story makes me think that there is truth to the report and Spurrier is just not saying anything cause a deal is not done. Butch denied going to UNC a day before the official announcement. THEY ALL DO THIS!!! Especially when you currently have a job and still have work to do. One quetion to you guys: If you were in a high profile job, would you say “I’m leaving boss!” before you had the offer letter and a start date in writting?

Hey Charvas L. Cody... Did you realize that Schiano left UM for Rutgers BEFORE BUTCH stunned us and left??? Oh Yeah!!! Remember Butch had to coach the defense from the sidelines in the Sugar Bowl against Florida in 2000??? Bro.. Schiano is NOT coming here...! And for you guys who have that "anti-Spurrier" website, that man is an OFFENSIVE GENIUS!!! Gee that seems to be the one area where we SUCK cow balls!!! becareful what you wish for you might end up with Barry Alvarez. Lets see... A Barry Alvarez offense... or a Steve Spurrier offense. Lebastard talks out of his a$$ sometimes and he just hates the gators so much that he wouldn't want any coach from there coming here. I'll take the "head ball coach" and watch his "fun and gun" offense roll up and down the field and Shannon's boys on defense get fired up by watching a "real" offense score. As he would say... "let's throw it around let the boys go get it!" That's my take on this whole mess of a season. Go out there boys and win the last one for yourselves. I'll be there to support ya (after grubbing out a "Hokie")

Lest we forget that not only did Coker win the championship with Butch's players, he also had his pick of the litter four yrs ago and look at what he picked. Then again, look at what Ohio state picked four yrs ago(they will play for another national title with their talent) and the canes are fighting to qualify for a toilet bowl. Coker must go and lets get a quality coach who can reestablish the dynasty.

For those who would feel any remorse for firing a "nice guy"...lets no forget that nice guy fired 4 assistant coaches, and forced another to leave prematurely...for the most part to save his own job....OK, Werner had to go, but it wasn't Kehoe didn't recruit our offensive (bad choice of words) line....
Larry will happily take his huge buyout...enough reason to fire Dee...and drift off into the sunset...and probably share a Margherita with JJ...I wish him an overdue "bon voyage."

Shannon as head coach - you've got to be kidding - this year's defense was responsible for a horrible season. They lacked discipline and most of all CHARACTER!

There aren't any easy answers. Besides a new coach, we need fans to be supportive, and not so negative.

Other teams with poorer records manage to pack their stadiums, yet as soon as the U loses a game, fans stop showing up.

Win or lose, your team is your team. Whether you like or agree with the coaching, nobody plays to lose.

I feel for the players...many of their fans have deserted them.

I'm not one to post alot of B.S on these sites, so allow me to make some points.
I have and will always BACK the "U". I have met, talked with and backed Coach Coker since his accepting the head coach job. I remember when fans wanted to run him out of town as Off. Cord.
Think how different things might have been Whould We have won that Title, played for another? In my Trade when A man does A good job for you, you shake his hand and give him his money owed.
When Coach let Kehoe, and Soldinger (two staples to the program)go, he new what the possibilitys were next for him. I feel that was not his comlete doing,(Thanks New F.I.U A.d).
Now, I feel if the services of Coach Schiano can not be obtained. Maybe we should look at Coach Chudzinski, I remember A guy that could run an offense. I'm sure he would assemble A great staff, and bring Soldinger and Kehoe back!
As for Rich Olson, I can't remember the last time I saw An Offensive Cordn. NOT IN THE BOOTH! IF you were USING MIAMI as an audition for your own perrsonnel GAIN! "SHAME ON YOU". You need to be "RUN THE HELL OFF" I hope your last check is short A little $$ You should take it greatfully. I feel besides injuries, you are single handedly are resposible for this SEASON. If Coker is fired, I just hope you have the decencie to open the door for the Man that gave you your Job...Thats the least you could do for Coker.

As much as it initially bothers me to think of Spurrier wearing the Orange and Green...I have to say the thought of one of his fun n'gun offenses combined with one of normal shut down defenses puts a huge smile on my face. Where can I donate to that fund?

Spurrier wouldn't be a good fit? Please. I agree that he doesn't belong in the NFL. He is however one of the best modern day college football coaches in the country, and he can recruit. If we land Spurrier you can expect a Top 5 recruiting class this year. This class might include some QB's and playmaking WR's. We haven't had that in a long time. One other thing. Spurrier now hates Florida and FSU as much as we do. Can you imagine how intense those games are gonna be if he's our coach?

As much as I'm pissed at Spurriers ill timed announcement of his NFL gig...the day after the 2001 BCS game...thus robbing the UM of it's supreme moment...I agree with Matt....it would instantly put us back on the map, create excitement, and most of all, insure that our football team is exciting, thus insuring continued appearances on national tv,which in turn boosts recruiting...it's a full circle, folks.
Too bad it won't happen.

Yesterday was great new but I cannot lie I did not feel joy and I was sad Mr Coker was not honest enough to voluntary leave 2 years ago when he realized he was over his head and he waited until he squeezed the life out of UM. I cried for 2 years that Coker should go but I did so for my beloved UM team and not because Mr Coker was a bad human being just a bad HEAD Coach (UM was out of his league). He is a very good person and I wish him well somewhere else. Steve Spurrier, HELL NO!!! HELL Double NO!!! He is a whining selfish imature excuse for a person, he is class-less; a nasty peice of garbage. UM would be disrespecting the city of MIA, it's fans, the UM and it's player to hire that peice of TRASH. I would not rest until he is driven out MIAMI he is "Ugraded" to come to UM. He has no integrety, no respect from the college world. Steve Spurrier stay away from my UM and don't take your worthles-self to mess it up more STAY AWAY... You are not liked or needed here, You are our ENEMY for EVER, we will not welcomeyou. We don't need you !!! Go AWAY Steve.
I would like to see Tyrone Willingham coach UM and bring back talent, dignity, swagger and respect.... Just like he built Notre DAme and then (like Coker did to Butch) the new coach came in and reaps his excellent work and praises that really belongs to Willingham
Go Cane...LUV YA always

are u f'ing kidding me.. Ty Willingham??? He sux dude. Spurrier is a way better coach than that idiot. get ur head out of ur a..

EVERYONE SEEMS TO OBJECT TO SPURRIER COMMING HERE FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS. HE'S SUCCESSFUL AS A COLLEGE COACH A PROVEN WINNER AND HE DEVELOPES QUARTERBACKS THAT SEEM TO BE MISSING THE PAST FEW YEARS. MY ONLY BEEF WITH HIM IS DO HE PREPARE PLAYERS FOR NEXT LEVEL BEING THE PROS MIAMI LEADS THE COUNTRY EVERY YEAR WITH THE AMOUNT OF PLAYERS WE PUT INTO THE NFL AND THAT IS A MAJOR RECRUITING PLOY IF HE COULD CONTINUELY DEVELOPE PLAYERS LIKE THAT THEN HE IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE ISN'T ANY COACH OUT THERE BETTER FOR THIS PROGRAM AND WE ARE TALKING TWO YEARS AWAY FOR THIS PROGRAM TO RETURN TO GLORY THAT'S OBSURD THIS PROGRAM COULD BE BACK NEXT YEAR WITH THE RIGHT COACHING THE PLAYERS ARE ALREADY THERE MIAMI IS ONLY LOSING 3-4 SENIOR STARTERS IT'S A YOUNG TEAM WITH A LOT OF POTENTIAL JUST THE LACK OF BEING COACHED UP.

UM has to give Randy Shannon the job.

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