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The Hot Stove: GatorEnvy, Beason, recruiting and a lot of hoops

I'm going to start off this blog with a disclaimer: In the next few months as the basketball season progresses, expect to see a lot more on basketball. My plan is still to come in and provide what I can on recruiting, football news and baseball season once we get closer to that.

Before we get to hoops, though, a couple topics for you to digest for feedback:
Gatorswin1. As a Canes fan how sick were you to see the Gators win the National Title with ease over Ohio State and become the first champion at the same time in two sports?
2. Do you think Jon Beason made the right decision to leave early?

3. How long do you think it will take the Hurricanes to get back to the national title game in football? And more importantly, how long are you willing to wait?
4. Did any of you get a chance to see any All-Star games -- namely the U.S. Army All-American Bowl? I've been told recruit Harland Gunn looked great opening holes for the West. I saw Nick Fanuzzi interception -- a badly underthrown ball. But I also was told he also made a few other nice passes between defenders. Your thoughts on recruiting are welcome.

OK, that's it. As part of my induction into the ACC basketball writers circle of trust, I've been asked to provide weekly notes to the other papers that go hardcore on hoops. The story below is what I sent to my fellow basketball writers regarding the Canes. In the other blog entry (Around the ACC) is what other writers sent me. I separated them for easy reading.

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The idea of Lethal Weapon 3 was supposed to go into retirement at the University of Miami when Guillermo Diaz and Rob Hite left for the pros this past summer.

Coach Frank Haith's goal entering this season was to go big and eliminate the idea the Hurricanes couldn't survive without in the ACC without a three-guard lineup. But after 6-9 senior center Anthony King went down last month with what has turned out to be a season-ending wrist injury, those plans have had to be scrapped.

Anthonyharris2UM (8-8, 1-1) debuted its first three-guard starting lineup of the season against the Wake Forest Saturday when senior Anthony Harris and sophomores Jack McClinton and Denis Clemente lined up for the tipoff.

"I didn't want our team to be that way, but injuries have made us evolve back into that," said Haith, whose team blew a 17-point second half lead and lost to the Demon Deacons 59-58 Saturday night.

"I thought our post guys were going to be the strength of this team, but obviously it's been the other way. So, the perimeter guys are our strength. A lot of that has to do with no King and inconsistencies with Ray Hicks and Jimmy Graham. But it is what it is and that's how it's played out."

Going big was going well for the Hurricanes early on. UM was scoring points in the paint with regularity and was beating teams for the first time under Haith from the inside-out. UM made it to 6-3 on Dec. 3 when it beat Georgia Tech with King in the lineup. But after his injury, the Hurricanes have fallen on hard times with freshman 6-8 Dwayne Collins roaming the paint and a cast of others struggling to help.

With his team struggling, Haith eventually had no choice but to go small again. He played his newest backcourt trio for the first time this season in Miami's 79-78 win at UMass, a game in which Harris exploded for a career-high 33 points and the trio combined for 59 points in the win.

Early on Saturday, it looked like the new lineup was going to deliver another victory. UM jumped out to a 21-5 lead and held a 17-point lead midway through the second half.

Clemente_1But after Clemente went down with a thigh contusion at the 13-minute mark, the game began slipping away. McClinton, who is averaging 18.1 points a game, assumed the point guard duties from Clemente and UM began turning the ball over as Wake turned up its defensive pressure. The Canes committed a season-high 12 turnovers in the loss. McClinton, though, wasn't making excuses. He didn't blame it on his sprained left knee, which could have a bulky brace on it for the remainder of the season.

Clemente, who replaced Harris at the starting point guard nine games into the season, told me Monday he will start when UM visits Maryland Wednesday night and assured me it didn't hurt.

But if his bruised thigh becomes a problem, Harris, who has made 60 of his 61 career starts at point guard, will return to his point guard duties. Haith said Friday he is hoping to use Harris on the wing for the rest of the season.

Keatoncopeland-- GETTING HIS CHANCE: Senior walk-on Keaton Copeland, meanwhile, became Miami's fifth different starter at power forward this season when he made his first career start at UMass. Copeland, who joined the team prior to the 2004-05 season, is small for the spot at 6-5, 245 pounds.

But Haith said he gave Copeland a shot because he provides the type of effort and gritty work he's been looking for from the spot all season.

"I've been wanting to give Keaton a chance at it for awhile," Haith said. "I just finally said, 'We're going to do it.' He battles at practice every single day. He's not as talented as those other guys, but he plays so hard. My goal is to have our other guys see how hard he plays and see that's what they need to bring if they want minutes. He's good enough where he can make plays."

Copeland had two points, one rebound, two assists, one block and a team-leading three steals in 17 minutes Saturday.

Sophomore Jimmy Graham began the season at power forward and made 10 starts, but has struggled and is averaging 5.3 points and 3.8 rebounds. Junior Ray Hicks, who made two starts at the spot, is a player Haith said "needs to come off the bench to be effective.

The other starters have included 6-11 Junior College transfer Fabio Nass, who now appears to have fallen out of the nine-man rotation. Haith said 6-7 freshman Lawrence Gilbert, who made his only start against Nebraska, "is the most talented of the group," but "is still too green."

Jamesdews-- CHEST PAINS: Freshman guard James Dews had a good scare the day before UM's trip to UMass last week. Dews left practice and began complaining of chest pains. He was rushed to the emergency room and kept overnight. Haith said the doctors determined it was not his heart, but chest muscles that were overworked. He flew up to UMass and played sparingly.

Haith told me he expects Dews, who sunk the meaningless three against Wake Forest, to play a more significant role as the season progresses.

-- A FULL HOUSE: Haith said Monday he would like to have his team living on campus next season so they eat better.

Monday, as Clemente was leaving practice with a box full of food, Haith shook his head and said "that boy needs to eat." Clemente is listed a 6-0, 178-pounds. But he's likely lighter than that.

As of now, only freshman are required to live on campus. With new apartments already opened across the street from the Hecht Center, the athletic department is apparently interested in holding several rooms for athletes. The basketball team would be an easy fit with it being such a small roster.

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1. VERY sick to see the Gators win but respect must be given where respect is due. Winning a championship in 2 years is a phenomenal accomplishment by Urban Meyer. Will recruits flock to Florida? I'm sure. Will they be on top for a few years? Probably. However the Canes will rise again. There will come a time when the Gators are down and the Canes or FSU are on top. No question. This is the nature of college football especially in the state of Florida.

2. We are not privy to all the information Jon Beason has to make his decision. From the outside looking in I feel he could have improved his draft position much more if he stayed one more year. However since he chose to move on, as a Cane fan, I say good luck and thanks for all the effort he gave.

3. It will take at least 3 seasons before the Canes are on top. By that time Coach Shannon will have changed the attitude of UM football. We will be mentally and physically tough again. Our players will be conditioned to work work work. Shannon will have 3 classes of recruits that he had control over from start to finish. Most important, though sad to say, a new QB will be in his 2nd year of starting. This is one fan who doesn't believe Freeman or Wright can take us to the next level no matter who the new offensive coordinator is. (I will be happy to eat my words here.) If Freeman can win the job next year and make great strides then it is possible we will compete for the title after next season when he is in his final season cause the rest of our skill position players will be mature. This fan is willing to wait patiently for 3 years if that does not happen but I think the vocal Cane fans will not.

4. Didn't see Army All American Bowl.

I hate Red Bull for keeping me up this late.

I didn't mind seeing the gators win it all. Not after they beat the crap out of the buckeyes. I wish it would have been Miami doing it, but I'm glad it was a Florida team. Jon Beason going to the pros is fine with me. Never really care about his style of play. Good luck to you, Beason. I did see the Army game, and I saw the interception that Fennuzie (Miami commitment) threw. I didn't see much, but it remind me of two quaterback that we have in Miami right now. I think it will take 2 years for Miami to be back on top. I didn't drink red bull. Just working!!!

1. When you add up things like the Gator Flop, Spurrier's classlessness, the wussy way they dumped the annual game with the Canes and probably a dozen other things, I despise all things Gator. Winning a national title will not gain my respect for that school.

2. I didn't think Beason was ready for the pros but they've apparently told him differently. I felt the same way about McGahee and Wilfork and I'm delighted they've proven me wrong.

3. How long it will take for the Canes to get back to the title game depends primarily on how well they recruit and how well they teach those recruits. If Coach Shannon is as good as I think he is {he was my first choice for the job}, we could get back there quickly. Am I willing to wait? I'm a Canes fan for life, win or lose.

4. Didn't see any of the all star games but I wouldn't worry about one underthrown pass.

1. Congratulations to the University of Florida football team. And particularly Urban Meyer and Chris Leak. He had the kind of game that might elevate him to the number 9 pick in the NFL draft. I am still a Gator hater but respect is due, especially after the whippin they laid on OSU. That was comical. They embarrassed OSU. It was one of the most impressive games I've seen 1 team play.

2. Good luck to Jon Beason. As a Canes fan since 1979 I will root for both you and the team that drafts you much like I rooted for both the Jets (Vilma) and Patriots (Wilfork) this past weekend. It's all about the U and we fans wish you the best success in both football and life.

3. I think that Shannon is on the fast track back to prominence. The landscape of college football has changed so drastically in only a span of a few years because of guys like Urban Meyer. For those of you that condemn the spread offense and you watched last night's game and the Boise State game and you haven't reconsidered I can only say that I am relieved that you have nothing to do with the decision making at UM. In college football you either lead the way or get out of the way. I believe Shannon will decide to lead the way. He has already stated that he will the kind of offense that scores regardless of what type of offense that turns out to be. That is encouraging. I feel Shannon is the Alpha type of coach that will accept nothing less than winning and right away. I expect UM to be in the running for the title game next year. Not necessarily IN the title game but in the running at the end of the season regardless of OC. But I'm gonna go ahead and wait to see who the OC is before I can judge how long it will be before UM wins 1 again...

Fanuzzi's arm looked like rubber, ala Dorsey, hopefully he has Dorsey's smarts. I love Shannon and I hope we keep getting commits, I was suprised to see Miami onl had two or three commits playing in the Army game, when FL,Ohio St., and Michigan had a boat load. I think were going to be ok on D like always but we need more O-line recruits, seems we overloaded a bit on WR.

I wish you guys could've seen and heard the arrogant & premature displays of these bandwagon Suckeye fans up here in Cleveland where I reside, and in Ohio as a whole. They've been celebrating a national championship since they beat Michigan and this game was supposed to be a scrimmage. The typical Ohio football fan is rare creature, just be happy you guys don't have to hear their misinformed mumbo-jumbo! I hate the Gators, but this day is truly BEAUTIFUL: People look like they've seen ghost LOL! The whole city was scarlet & gray, it was an unofficial state holiday. Everywhere I went yesterday, I made enemies including my: bank, school, job, and barbershop. They were teaching my daughter's class the OSU fight song when I picked her up yesterday! This is the best feeling in the world! Arrogance has become TEARS & SHOCK; and their messiah Tressel, has failed them miserably. I told them that the NC comes through the state of Florida. Shannon, it's time for the CANES 2 RISE! (I'll be patient though)

zakkee couldnt put it any better... you dont even have to go to ohio to see the suckeye fans as he put it i was walking to class and i saw 2 or 3 "OSU" fans.... ya right. i really dont like the gators... but for me yesterday wasnt about the gators it was about the ass whooping the OSU deserved for that b/s call in the 02-03 season. karma is a bitch. as for beason... i think a year to early but hey if he could go right now for a good pick... y wait a year and risk getting hurt. i didnt watch the gaem although i wanted to but remember these kids are still in high school you gotta coach 'em up. so thats ok if he underthrew a pass (we should be use to it by now). and shannon will right the ship. i will be patient but i dont htink im waiting long

zakkee couldnt put it any better... you dont even have to go to ohio to see the suckeye fans as he put it i was walking to class and i saw 2 or 3 "OSU" fans.... ya right. i really dont like the gators... but for me yesterday wasnt about the gators it was about the ass whooping the OSU deserved for that b/s call in the 02-03 season. karma is a bitch. as for beason... i think a year to early but hey if he could go right now for a good pick... y wait a year and risk getting hurt. i didnt watch the gaem although i wanted to but remember these kids are still in high school you gotta coach 'em up. so thats ok if he underthrew a pass (we should be use to it by now). and shannon will right the ship. i will be patient but i dont htink im waiting long

I'm excited about Shannon. The man has a lot of potential and his recruiting class not thsi year but next year will be telling. How will those relationships with in city kids, and coaches play out? Will we get those prime time recruits? I think so.


As for the Gators winning. I like two universities Miami and Michigan, but I rather eat glass than see the Gators win a game, let alone a national championship. we'll be back soon.

i guess theres alot of bitter ppl out there that wanted to see OSU get the poetic justic that they deserved...

ZAKKEE once i again i agree with you 100%. now lets get back to the subject. i respect jim tressel but i'm still bitter at getting screwed out of back to back titles by the luckeyes in 2002. The championship should be decided on the field not in the bcs offices! Why even play the game if thats the case? I saw so many bad calls in that game that favored the "luckeyes". Its as if we were doomed from the start. So yes i'm tickled to death that the luckeyes got humiliated but that doesn't put another ring on our fingers. I'm thrilled that they got beat even if it was the gators, hell it could have been Satan and i would have been happy...i hate ohio state!!! CONGRATULATIONS FLORIDA and MEYER!!!!
..Yes i'm very happy about Shannon (and good ridents to coker) and the direction he seems to be going and if i'm not mistaken he's already landed some top recruits. What i most like about him is he's a "defensive coach" and DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS! If anyone disagrees with me rewind last nights game with the Gators and luckeyes, or go back to 2001 and see what we did to Nebraska, or go even further back and see what Alabama did to us in the 1992 Sugar Bowl. Yes i appreciate a good offense but and as many of you have stated "the game has changed". but lets face it for Miami to bill itself as "Quarterback U" how many of our quarterbacks do anything in the NFL? How many superbowl rings does any former UM quarterback have? I love "THE U" but lets get back to basics and not put SO much emphasis on offense that we forget about everything else...CONSISTENT (not great) OFFENSE + SMOTHERING/FAST DEFENSE= CHAMPIONSHIP..(this is textbook jimmy johnson)
Many of you are saying it will take Shannon 2,3,4, years to get us back...do you really think so? Urban Meyer did it in two in Gainesville...THIS IS MIAMI! Players go to florida when they can't get in MIAMI...
...by the way, good luck Beason. i hate to see you go but do whats best for you. I wish you would stay and Wright and Freeman leave, because like MiamiRepresent stated i don't see much improvement with them no matter who is OC (hope i'm wrong)

I just watched the NC game again and I can't believe Tressel's game plan after 50 days of preparation was so dumb. It TOTALLY & COMPLETELY played into Florida's strengths. On offense he should've run up the middle or between the tackles to set up the pass instead of passing to set up the run. This would've given the speed ends (who weigh about 260 each) something to respect, thus making their pass rush less effective. Tressel tried to use the same Michigan game plan against UF, but UF has better DB's and Michigan was #1 against the run , not UF. You attack speed running vertically. On defense, Tressel was terrified to get beat deep, but somebody should've told him that Leak can't throw deep. He continually dropped his linebackers and safeties back into zones and UF found 5 or 10 yard openings all day. Did he watch the Auburn game at all? You must blitz Leak and play man to man coverage, Leak's strength is intermediate passes to 4.3 dudes who do the rest. And then that 3 man rush scheme.....defensive coordinator should be fired! LOL! KARMA IS A BITCH

Gators are still the gators.... they've got an arrogant coach still, they're fans are rednecks still, and they still have the cowardly history against the Canes. No Respect! The Butteyes getting beat is always great, but I can relish in it because it was the cowardly bumpkins of gainesville that did it.
Shannon will put them in their place soon enough.
GO CANES!!!!

The thing that makes me sick is that the Gators are considered the number 1 team in the country with a whole slew of teams with the same record and one team, Boise State with a better record. There needs to be a playoff and any argument against it is a waste of time. As far as the Gators being the first team to be champions in 2 sports at the same time, you are wrong! In 2001, our very own Miami Hurricanes held the national tiles in both Baseball and Football. The gators are the first to hold it in Basketball and football. I don't understand why people keep saying they are the first to hold it in 2 sports. Bye the way Susan, you still haven't answered my question about how or why Mario Cristobal became a great recruiter once he was up for the FIU job but the whole time Larry Coker was getting bashed for not having any talent on the team, Cristobal's name was never mentioned.

I live in N Florida and didn't want to see Florida win the game because now I won't hear the end of it. However, they badly beat the one team I really hate the most, so I guess that is OK deep down with me. I probabaly would have rather it was Boise State who beat them.

What really stands out to me about Florida winning is the impact of a creative coach (you reading this, Larry?) Tressel thought he could win with the same old school offense and defense (as Larry did). If the new school knows what is coming they can design plays to counteract it. I recall the OSU players scratching their heads wondering what was going on.
TO COACH SHANNON: Undoubtedly, we are going to see more and more of these kinds of creative offenses and defenses (ala Louisville, Rutgers, Houston, Boise, UF).
Also, there are plenty of UM fans (and their FB playing children) and UF hating fans here in N FL to recruit from. Don't forget about North Florida (ie. Jacksonville) as a recruiting area.

I was never really impressed with Beason, so I think we should be better next year without him.

I said in 2004 when we left the Big East that we wouldn't see another NC for 20 years, so I still stand with that prediction (SHALALALA what a dumbheaded move!). I figured we wouldn't be able to beat one of the best teams (ie. FSU) in the ACC twice (assuming we ever get to the Championship Game) and thought we would lose a road game every year to another decent ACC team (= two losses, no NC game).
I'd like Shannon to prove me wrong...

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but wasn't that Shannon's defense that LAID down and gave up in last years peach bowl? Against Louisville after the first defensive stand. They laid down again. I think that Shannon will be a huge help in recruiting the Miami area, but something just feels as if nothing has changed. And change is the one thing that was greatly needed. G.L. to Beason i wish him well. And a big fat paycheck
GO CANES!!!!!

ZAKKEE once i again i agree with you 100%. now lets get back to the subject. i respect jim tressel but i'm still bitter at getting screwed out of back to back titles by the luckeyes in 2002. The championship should be decided on the field not in the bcs offices! Why even play the game if thats the case? I saw so many bad calls in that game that favored the "luckeyes". Its as if we were doomed from the start. So yes i'm tickled to death that the luckeyes got humiliated but that doesn't put another ring on our fingers. I'm thrilled that they got beat even if it was the gators, hell it could have been Satan and i would have been happy...i hate ohio state!!! CONGRATULATIONS FLORIDA and MEYER!!!!
..Yes i'm very happy about Shannon (and good ridents to coker) and the direction he seems to be going and if i'm not mistaken he's already landed some top recruits. What i most like about him is he's a "defensive coach" and DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS! If anyone disagrees with me rewind last nights game with the Gators and luckeyes, or go back to 2001 and see what we did to Nebraska, or go even further back and see what Alabama did to us in the 1992 Sugar Bowl. Yes i appreciate a good offense but and as many of you have stated "the game has changed". but lets face it for Miami to bill itself as "Quarterback U" how many of our quarterbacks do anything in the NFL? How many superbowl rings does any former UM quarterback have? I love "THE U" but lets get back to basics and not put SO much emphasis on offense that we forget about everything else...CONSISTENT (not great) OFFENSE + SMOTHERING/FAST DEFENSE= CHAMPIONSHIP..(this is textbook jimmy johnson)
Many of you are saying it will take Shannon 2,3,4, years to get us back...do you really think so? Urban Meyer did it in two in Gainesville...THIS IS MIAMI! Players go to florida when they can't get in MIAMI...
...by the way, good luck Beason. i hate to see you go but do whats best for you. I wish you would stay and Wright and Freeman leave, because like MiamiRepresent stated i don't see much improvement with them no matter who is OC (hope i'm wrong)

It was Florida (the state) Karma coming around to bite the LUCKeyes on the ass,and where is that criminal they used to beat UM three years ago? IN JAIL. yes
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Canes!!!

Hey as a cane fan i want everyone to know i hate fsu and florida is ok with me but if a florida team is playing for the national championship i'm routing for my state! The world need to know if you want the NC you have to come down here to the State of Florida to get it! We are the King of Football and we need to act that way.

If you think Coker was bad, just wait. The program has been in limbo for over a month. Shannon is frozen in time and can't even make hiring decisions on his assistant coaches. We waited on Koetter when it was pretty obvious that he would only take the job if he couldn't land anything else. How are top notch recruits going to consider the U when they can't be told who will be coaching them or be given a game plan. The one hire for OL out of Michigan State is not very reassuring. I can't recall too many great OL personnel in the last 6 years coming out of a this mid pack Big Ten school. If we think that 5 star recruits will just flock to the U because of our name then just look back to our recent history of recruiting. I hope that Shannon wakes up pretty soon. Just look at FSU got a top notch OC in just a couple of weeks.

good points Orlando cane... This is gonna be a lil shaky at the U

off topic of football but how bout the Canes hoop's team... beating maryland by stout defense

As sad as it is to say I agree with Orlando Cane a little. Not on everything but on some of it. Coach Shannon needs to make a hire now for an OC and OL coach. He should have his staff solidified, NOW! Not later. I'm pleased that Coach Shannon has the job. But, so far I am not pleased from what I'm seeing. If Koetter does not want to be here then hire Mark Trestman someone who has UM ties and wants to be here at the U. Plus, we just recently lost one recruit in DT Chris Perry and now it seems like we are going to lose OT Orlando Franklin from last year and QB Nick Fanuzzi (Even though I think his decision making is suspect and his arm is not that strong; But we need a third QB ASAP). We also lost ATH Phelon Jones. I know that people keep saying that he is going to make his impact next year and I can understand that. But, Florida has talent that wants to come to the U now. 1. RB Noel Devine (N. Ft. Myers, FL) wanted to come to the U until Coker insulted him by saying he was to small. He did not look like his stature was limiting his talent in the Army high school All American game. Coach Shannon just has to mend the fences between the young man and the U. He has already said he feels his style matches the system at the U; plus he is a return man and he is going to Milford Academy a place where the U has a pipeline. 2. RB Antwain Easterling I have not heard anything on this young man coming to the U but rivals.com has the U as his 2nd choice. No comments has been made about the young man he is from Miami want is the problem? 3. WR Alphonso Bryant (Homestead, FL) he is also from South Florida why would you sign 5 WR prospects (and they are still looking for one more) and not have this kid in the mix. This guy has been getting respect from all the recruiting companies. Why not sign him(Deonte Thompson does not seem like he will be with the U, he may be going to Florida). So recruit Bryant harder. 4. OL Kevin Bryant (Lauderdale Lakes, FL) this kid is huge (6-6 380 bench pressed 39 reps of 185lbs) and could turn out to be the best OL out of the class if he gets his weight down. Why not go after him harder. Mario Cristobal talked to him before he left and the kid was thinking about the U. Now that Mario is gone no one has kept in contact with him and it maybe to late. 5. DE Jabaal Sheard (Hollywood, FL) he has done everything he could to come to the University of Miami. Saying if they offered he would be a Cane. He is not on the commitment list; so I guess he wasn't offered. Why not? The guy had 11 sacks in high school his senior year. He is 6-4 240 runs a 4.6 40; Bench pressed 19 reps of 185lbs.? 6. ILB Darran Kinsey (Miami, FL) they are asking to see tape on the guy tape. Okay I admit you need to see if he is talented are not. But how long does it take you to watch tape? Ether you want him or not. The kid is from Miami you could go and see him. You could go pick up the tape and watch the tape in 1 to 2 hrs. Why is it taking days? At 6-1 235lbs the guy had more than 100 tackles, runs a 4.57 40, Bench pressed 27 reps of 185lbs and ran a shuttle time of 4.17. The guy is bigger than the guys they have at LB now. 7. Last but not least S Major Wright (Ft. Lauderdale, FL) is 6-1 200lbs and is the hardest hitting player in the country. He is talking about Ohio State, Florida, Norte Dame and oh yeah I forgot Miami lol. A player of his caliber from South Florida should say Miami first then Ohio State, Florida and Norte Dame. I ask again what is going on at the University of Miami. Miami cannot even be the first choice of the talent in its own backyard. All of the kids and coaches in South Florida were excited about Randy Shannon being the coach and in my opinion he is letting him down. Based on the fact there are kids from South Florida (and Florida) that bleed orange and green, that want to be apart of the U this year and they are highly regarded players. Everyone is saying that you should expect Shannon to refocus UM's recruiting efforts in South Florida. Well it least for this year I haven’t seen it. If you only sign three players from South Florida when there's at least three more recruits that want to be apart of your program and three more that are thinking about the Canes seriously. You should have at least six commitments at this point and time not just three and if he is really good he should get two out of the three players who are thinking hard about the school by signing day. Hopefully this turns out to be the case. But, I am not sure. Florida is a hot bed for talent Butch Davis, Jimmy Johnson and Howard Schnellenberger focused their efforts on South Florida (and Florida) and so should Shannon.

Great job by the canes hoops team last night excellent game. C Dwayne Collins played great.

Joe, thanks for the comments on the recruits. It is hard for us in N FL to get info like that. Is there a forum to ask Coach Shannon those questions? ie. web blog or weekly radio show?

FYI - I heard that Urban Meyer is the King of text messaging (recruits & reporters), so Shannon should take notice. He should note that communication with the fans is important.

Hello and good day...we need strong willed young men to lead this program..not babied blue chips...speed is everywhere, but the will to win is not always there in the blue chips..those who feel slighted will rise up..

The only time I rooted for Gators was the other night...Ohio State has a thug in jail they pushed for a H Trophy, yet no oned condemsn them...good for them to lose...

The Gators will not be back..after Spurrier won they did not go back...Miami owns 5 NC and has played for what 5 more? We are the team in the state and only the other two win when we are down.

Cut Shannon some slack and show some love...he needs the right mix of coaches...I personally think we need to punish people with speed on the outside and then busting up the middle...

I do not worry about Def..because hs kids know we send def. to the NFL all the time...all the time!!

Congrats Gators....rise up Miami

JOE!!! You the man! I totally agree with you. In terms of recruiting Shannon doesn't even have to leave the city and can recruit enough talent to play for the NC every year. Of course i would go out to Nebraska, and Texas to get some size for our Off. Line. Shannon really needs to get some coaches in place and recruit these kids in our own backyard. As bad as people talked about Ron Zook, The Gators won with HIS players and it only took Meyer 2 years. Congrats and Go Gators!!! LETS GET BUSY RANDY SHANNON.. i support you, but damn whats the hold up? This is MIAMI!

Joe, buddy -- so we didnt go after the right OCs so far?

Everyone of the guys we've targeted so far are either staying in current job (with more cash) or are going to a HIGHER paying job in the NFL. Give'm time, man -- I cant comment like you have on things Coach Shannon HASNT done, but I can judge him on things he HAS and so far I agree with all of them...give it a week, amigo -- and see where we're at...for the team and Canes -- NEXT weekend is a big Ofensive recruit-visit weekend...were str8.

ALL bout dem CANES

...btw, all three of those coaches (Schnell, JJ and Butch) back Shannon getting the reigns...

not disagreeing with your points...just saying we'll know better w/in a week.

We all want to see who the OC is going to be, and we don't want to wait. We have to give coach shannon some time. I agree that everybody that we're targeting is either getting more money, or going to the NFL. Now, this is just a suggestion, and it may sound crazy. Why can we get a coach that has been coaching in high school? There are plenty of coaches in the State of Florida. I know is a gamble, but aren't we already gambling with coach shannon who has not head coach experince. Beside, I think it will benefit Miami in the long run. This is risky but why not.

Wow, now that UF has a whopping 2 titles their redneck fans can say they have more titles than they do teeth. OSU fans however still don't have more titles than family members they've slept with, sucks for them. GO CANES!

norm, right on --
not ALL HS coaches>D1 are risky...
Arkansas hired Mustain's dad,
Soldinger was Southridge

Coach Shannon's got aLOT of cred with local HS coaches...
realistically, dont think having a high school as OC is in the cards for the U...but on staff? --
book'm...i'm in...again -- in a week we'll know a heckofalot more about our OFensive staff...

C A N E S
canes!

Canes94 I'm not sure if there is a forum, blog or weekly radio show to ask Coach Shannon those questions? But he may have something coming into the year. And I will try to wait one week, lol.

i think beason got some bad info regarding the nfl.if he goes in the top 3 rounds i'd be surprised.there's alot of good lb's coming out this year.as for the canes i think a lot will depend on the o.c. shannon hires.the defense will be there.but unless they get someone to attract and then use correctly offensive players it will be a long climb.
remember miami had a top 5 defense this year but couldn't score.defense might win championships in the nfl but in college you have to score points...

I agree with Orlando Cane...Shannon needs to get on the stick here. Is anybody but me concerned that we can't hire an off coor? What's up with that? How many asst coaches have already turned this gig down? We are in danger of losing top recruits ala Fanuzzi who now is "considering" other
options. If you ask me, I think Shannon is a band aide because this administration either could not, or would not pony up the cash for a quality head coach. The days of kids coming here because we are the "U" are over. Let's not kid ourselves here into thinking that Randy Shannon is just going walk into some blue chippers living room and sweep him off his feet because of his predigree. Kids these days seem to the want the college atmosphere, not the bright lights and the big city. We need a new training facility, a new stadium. Donna S and Paul D need to spend some cash and they aren't willing to do that. Until that happens, we settle for what we have. I don't see the Canes back in the title hunt until this administration is willing to make that kind of commitment.

I think we can win soon-Everyone, over the past 5 years if you average our classes on scout and rivals we have a top 7 or 8 over 5 years and top 3 to yrs ago-meaning those kids should be ready this yr--5 star graig cooper with a yr of prep school can step in and 2-3 of the 6 Wr's randys bringing in should play in 07 along with legget and shields-so we should have great playmakers to go with an experienced qb? if we beat Oklahoma, in the 2nd game of the year, watch out. Who Knows/

Guys-(joes post_-the 2 bryants, devine, and 1-2 more dont qualify as of yet--shannon wants a full class and to have 4-5 go to prep school when we only have less than 20 scholars can kill the class----thats why hes backed off-why wouldnt he want them--I am an insider on some of these sites and this is what some of the stories have said--they cant qualify at um unless their scores get higher--------superbowl weekend we have like 8-10 4 and 5 star guys coming in-------That is when we will see randy in action

The only person who's got Gayturd envy is you, Susan.

Y'all remember that bad call against Sharpe. All I gotta say is Karma is a bitch. Too bad it was the wrong team from Florida that got to pay it back.

Let's see. Saban has hired a staff in less than 2 weeks. Butch Davis has brought in a good staff. Cristobal has made great strides in his hiring. Bobby Bowden has been putting his house in order. Now we have Shannon a month an a half after his hiring still trying to put a list together for just one position OC. And what a list it is one candidate from that powerhouse NIU, another that coached at Army. WOW!!! It is quite evident that we can't find quality coaches that want to come to the U. National signing day will be here before you know it and we can't offer these kids a clue. No wonder that they are beginning to decommit. We keep hyping Shannon as a great this and that but remember the greatest attribute of any coach or CEO is that of attracting top notch talent to run the organization and making good quick decisions. Randy is showing his lack of knowledge in organizational structuring and people are running the other way. And for those that think that Soldinger and Kehoe are being considered forget it. Don't forget that Randy Shannon sided with Coker in getting rid of those quality coaches. I like Randy and think that he was a good defensive coordinator. But, I think that 3 years down the road we'll look back and have the same results as with Coker. Donut Boy - Dee has done it again. He jumped the gun and didn't really go through any hiring process. He hired a consultant just for show and then hired the cheapest guy he could find that had some credentials with the community. One telephone interview doesn't constitute a nationwide search. I really do wish Randy and the U all the luck in the world. But at the rate that they're going it's going to be a long year.

you obviously don't know who Butch hired as his OC...

"Randy is showing his lack of knowledge in organizational structuring and people are running the other way."

Kotter was offered an NFL job tha brings NFL money, Rogers got a pay increase...

"And for those that think that Soldinger and Kehoe are being considered forget it. Don't forget that Randy Shannon sided with Coker in getting rid of those quality coaches."

One thing is Kehoe/Sol were fired, by Coker. And How do you know Randy "sided" w/ Coker?

I like Randy and think that he was a good defensive coordinator. But, I think that 3 years down the road we'll look back and have the same results as with Coker.

Fine with me, a title and a 34 game win streak is fine with me.

Every body likes to jump on the gun when things don't look right, and everybody is entitled to give their own opinions. With that said, I'm going to give my own opinion. There are a lot of things that Shannon doesn't know how to do yet, and he is going to have to learn quick. However, this doesn't mean that he is not going to be a great coach. There are going to be growing pains and that's the price you pay when you hire somebody that has never been a head coach. Just ask Larry Coker? Hopefuly, Shannon learned a lot by watching Coker's do's and don't. Go Canes!!!!

Shannon has made alot of mistakes assembling his staff so far and is in danger of losing the momentum he created with his early recruiting. Where is Trestman at and why hasn't he been considered. It is telling that Koetter waited so long to make a decision. It was clear that he was only going to take the UM job is nothing else came up. And the QB coach for the Vikes would rather coach Tarvarris Jackson than call plays at UM? Wny does Noel Devine's name keep being mentioned he has already said he "has to go" to prep school next year as reported by scout.com. We only have 11 recruits so far and still could lose Gunn and Berry, and Hankerson may not qualify academically. Right now it is looking bleak and Randy doesn't really have a selling point to sell for offensive skill position players.

did someone find a nuclear waste dump under miami?the fins have no clue who to hire.riley's gone on hiatas until shack comes back and the team starts winning(the only way he will coach)and worst of all shannon appears to have no clue as to how a staff is put together.he has shown why all good coordinators do not make good head coaches.(see joe kleine at halftime of the alabama game).doughnut man dee has turned the "U" into a second rate school buy not going out and actually searching for a headcoach because 1)he is cheap and 2)he was afraid to lose shannon to texas.
i ask what is better?having a good coordinator in charge with no apparent clue as to what he is doing or going out and getting a good headcoach and let him put a great staff together less shannon if that's the way it works out.
everyone fell head over heals when shannon was hired figuring he would lock down s. fla.heck he can't fill the 15 scolarships and may lose 2 of the better ones he has goteen to commit because these kids still don't know who'll they'll be playing for and that they keep seeing coach after coach turn down coaching offers at a school where 5 years ago and maybe even 3 they would have been standing in line to get here.
please someone explain to me what the hell shannon is doing and will someone please call hazmat and get that waste cleaned up.it's turning 3 great teams into a no come zone....

You Canes fun are funny. One of you admit that playing in the ACC is more difficult than the SEC but yet are pissy with the Gators for dumping the Canes game. Are you out of your minds? SEC schedule, FSU, Miami and then maybe an SEC title game and then possibly a title game too? Use your heads just a little bit.

I was sad too see OSU beat Miami in the rip off of the century. I was also that we pounded OSU this - us Florida teams need to stick together whenever possible. To some of you, it seems unlikely.

Go Gators. Go Canes. Go Noles. And don't look back, but Go Bulls!

Randy really has handled this OC search terribly, and he still has other holes in his offensive staff. He's got to get an OC or this recruiting year is going to be stinker.

I can't tell you how soon we reclaim the NC trophy we were denied against Ohio State; I can't even say what our offensive direction is heading into next season. As a true fan, I can say this:

I don't sweat anyone we lost to early trips to the NFL. We have lost much better. While I don't wish to sound bitter, let's face it:

Olsen never fulfilled his promise.

Beason isn't Ray Lewis.

Oh, did we have anyone else that would create a ripple on draft day?

I DIDN'T THINK SO.

Collectively, I think Mr. Shannon will restore order. College players will be expected to go to class, lift weights, run track and get us back in contention. And get a degree. A degree that matters. Or, if your head is up your butt, just take a stab at it, and believe you are the next Jerome Brown or Bernie Kosar.

Face it, BOYS! It is what it is! The NFL only takes the best, and you can't count on the UM reputation forever. We need a bit more validation in 2007. Afew of you will decide, deep in your heart of hearts, you don't want a real job, and your athletic ability might get you a gig on Sunday.

How many NFL studs have we turned out lately?

By my count: one

Frank Gore is carrying the torch.

Nobody from last year.

Vilma and Williams underachieving.

Nobody will throw to Shockey.

The Famous TE in Cleveland is an embarassment.

Reality is a bitch, but let's face it. Nobody fears anyone from the U lately, and, frankly, I don't blame them.

Here's to the team Coach Shannon fields. My expectations are high.

P.S. ANYONE FROM THE NFL ALUMNI GOT SOME GREEN TO GET US BACK IN THE GAME??

John, what are you talking about Vilma and Williams are considered two of the best at their position. Winslow has no QB to throw him the ball and he did make plays for a Cleveland offense that isn't much better than the U's. I don't know what world you live in but half of college student/athletes don't graduate on time if at all so I could care less as to whether or not these kids go to school it is their own decision. How can your expectations be high for the team Shannon fields? We have 11 recruits and may lose 2 or 3 of them. I can't remember a year when Miami couldn't fill their open scholarships. Next year he'll get a pass because lets face it they will be Coker's players but if he fails to recruit this year it will show up the following year and then on.

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