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The Hot Stove: The Nix Effect, Weekend at Randy's, & Ham on Haith

TALLAHASSEE -- Since I'm sitting up in my hotel room here in downtown Tally bored, I've spent the past few hours reading up on new Hurricanes offensive coordinator Patrick Nix. Not the ideal way to spend a Friday night. But I'm in Tallahassee. What else is there to do? Anyway, since I know football is what makes Eye on The U go round, what better topic to rattle Canes brains than Nix? Before you give me your perspective on the hiring, here's my opine in a nutshell: Nix?!?

PatricknixFirst off, let me start off by saying this is not an attempt to put coach Nix down. Just an observation I'm making after doing some reading on his background and how I think he fits into The U. I don't know Nix from Adam. And neither do most of you. But when you study the history of who this coaching search included, how long it took to find an offensive coordinator and who UM ended up with, I get the sense this could have been a bit of a panic hire on coach Randy Shannon with talented QB recruit Robert Marve coming to town this weekend. Miami wants Marve and Marve wants a warm body to speak with about Miami's future offense. Nix does that. We will get to the big recruiting weekend in a bit, but let's stay with Nix first.

According to research, the 34-year old and former Auburn quarterback has been a coach at the I-A level for five seasons. He's moved his way up from running backs coach to offensive coordinator in only three seasons. Yet, despite the move, he only began calling plays for the first time this past season when Chan Gailey gave him the duties. Let me repeat that. Nix was offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach for three years at GT, but didn't call the plays until this past season. Shouldn't that be a big deal? One year of actual play-calling experience.

Nix of course didn't do too bad when he was given his chance, which is the upside of this deal. Georgia Tech's offense improved, despite quarterback Reggie Ball, scoring 24.2 points per game in 2006 (up from 18.5 in 2005) and scored 30 or more points in six games, one fewer than the previous three seasons combined. And in eight Atlantic Coast Conference games, Georgia Tech's offense led the league in scoring at 26.6 points per game and ranked among the top-three ACC offenses in rushing (second at 151 yards per game), passing efficiency (third), total yards (third at 328.5 yards) and turnover margin (third with 12 giveaways vs. 19 takeaways). Of course, we all know how explosive the ACC was on offense this past year (that's sarcasm).

CalvinjohnsonOK, those numbers are all fine and dandy. But what could Georgia Tech's offense really do? What were they good at? Everyone knows the Yellow Jackets were known for one player -- receiver Calvin Johnson, who is likely to be the first non-QB taken in April's Draft. Johnson made Ball good and made Georgia Tech's offense flow. But according to research, when Ball wasn't getting the ball to Johnson and the Yellow Jackets weren't hitting on big plays, they weren't scoring or moving the football. Here's a stat from an Augusta Chronicle Story that might open up your eyes: The Yellow Jackets scored 22 of their 40 offensive touchdowns through the air, with 13 of those 22 of those scoring passes measuring 15 yards or more. "If we don't hit big plays like that, our chances of winning are slim," Johnson told the paper.

Miami obviously has lacked big plays and playmakers for several seasons now. The last time UM had such a talented receiver was Andre Johnson (2002). Which raises the question: Was the only reason Nix's offense successful because of Johnson and the big play? And if so, does UM have the personnel right now to make that philosophy work at The U right now? I'm sure you can answer that one yourself.

I'm not going to say Nix can't come to UM, grow as a coach and make UM better (anything better than 7 points at Virginia is an improvement). Many young coaches have made themselves at The U. Nix is young, bright and obviously did enough to impress Chan Gailey, one of the brighter offensive minds in football, to take him under his wing. But how much confidence do you put into a coach who spent one year calling plays at Georgia Tech and whose only success really came when the top offensive player in the country could get open?

Which brings this discussion back full circle to Shannon. It's obvious Nix wasn't his first, second or even third choice. The Jacksonville Jaguars nabbed his first choice, Dirk Koetter. Kevin Rogers couldn't get away from the Vikings and Oklahoma wasn't going to let Kevin Sumlin get away. And Shannon deserves credit for trying. But the one thing in common with all three of those other guys is experience -- and they all had far more than Nix. So, did Randy simply go with the best and quick available solution? Only time will tell. But it sure smells like it.

Marve_1Speaking of smell, this weekend has the odor of the biggest recruiting weekend at UM and for Shannon yet. Why? Because the quarterback of the future -- the real quarterback Miami wants -- Robert Marve will be in town along with UM's best receiver commitment, Jermaine McKenzie, their No. 1 linebacker of choice Allen Bailey, No. 2 linebacker target Brandon Hicks (who is likely headed to Florida) and Homestead safety Joseph Nicholas (Rutgers commit). Not that I want to add pressure to the situation, but the truth is this is going to be the last chance Miami and will Shannon get to make those guys fall in love. And it won't be easy. Marve (Alabama), Bailey (his last trip is to hometown Georgia), Hicks (Florida) and Nicholas (Rutgers) are all basically engaged to other schools right now. If Shannon can somehow pull it off, it will be the best magic trick pulled off this side of David Copperfield in quite sometime.

If they get all the guys I mentioned above -- and they won't -- UM can go from having an average recruiting class back to the type it used to draw when it was a perennial BCS team. Marve is paramount because he's better than current QB commit Nick Fanuzzi, who my hunch tells me could end up defecting to Kentucky (the school his father went). Who will UM ultimately get? I think Marve, McKenzie and Nicholas turn out to be Canes while Hicks and Bailey head to the SEC. Just a prediction.

For the immediate future, re: the current quarterback situation, I'd like to see which quarterback -- Kirby Freeman or Kyle Wright -- Nix likes most for the 2007 offense. If you look at what Nix ran at Georgia Tech, the selection should be Freeman, who is obviously a better runner and passer on the run. Either way, it will be interesting to see what Nix says about how he envisions the offense in the coming weeks.


Now to hoops.

Leonard_hamiltonLeonard Hamilton is in his fifth year at Florida State. And with the former Canes coach taking on his former team this weekend, I took advantage of my interview request to rehash the old days a bit, what it took to make Miami a power and to get his thoughts on the job he thinks Frank Haith has done in his three seasons as coach at UM and the path he thinks the program can take with the way Haith is running things. In a lot of ways, coach Ham is still considered the best coach Miami has ever had. Under Hamilton's leadership, UM advanced to postseason play five times in his final six seasons including three consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances from 1998-2000 that included a Sweet 16 appearance. Then, he left when Michael Jordan called him to take on the head coaching duties with the Washington Wizards, a stint that lasted one painful 19-63 season before getting the Seminoles job in 2002.

Coach Ham was successful at Miami, but it took him time to get the program going. He went through a winless season in the Big East and it took him six seasons to get UM to the postseason and that was the NIT. With that in mind, I conducted my interview to pick Ham's brain and where he sees UM going with Haith at the helm.

When I asked him to talk about the job Haith has done in his three years, he was a bit taken aback -- as if I wanted him to say something negative. But I wasn't fishing for dirt. I wanted an honest assessment. After all, Haith is 3-1 against him and took UM to the postseason (NIT) faster than Hamilton did. Here's some of what Coach Ham had to say:

Q: In the eyes of a lot of fans, UM has taken a step back this season and many are disappointed in Coach Haith even though he led UM to the NIT twice in his first two seasons. How do you think the program has done?

"I think he's done an amazing job. A superb job. Developing a program is not as easy as people think it is. It took me a long time time when I was there to get the players in, to bring the depth in needed to win. We didn't get Tim James and Mario Bland and those guys overnight. The nature of the process is to establish a foundation. I think he's done a great job keeping the best players in South Florida to stay at UM. A much better job than we did when we were there. I don't have any doubt in my mind Haith will get that program where he wants it to be."

Q: Even still, there are some that say he has not taken  the program to the next level. They say the NIT isn't good enough and he still has yet to sign that big McDonald's All-American recruit. Are expectations at UM too high?

"Getting a McDonald's All-American recruit isn't going to make Miami or Florida State better from one day to the next. Duke and North Carolina and other great programs have tradition. The big time recruits only come with time, tradition. When I was at Miami, we never got a McDonald's All-American. We won because we had depth. We got quality kids, who worked hard, who played defense hard. And when we played the McDonald's All-Americans we went at them hard all game with a lot of different quality guys and you hoped that at the end of the game you had a chance to win. The one thing he has going for him down there now that I didn't was an on-campus facility. That's going to help. But building tradition takes time."

Q: Do you think the program underachieved when it had Guillermo Diaz and Rob Hite and yet still failed to make the NCAA tournament. Now they are 9-10, albeit with injuries. Do you think they are a disappointment now?

A: "Are you kidding me? What do you want me to say? It was his first two years there man. Diaz was a junior when he left right? If King is healthy and Diaz is there, Miami is a totally different team this season. We lost two big players -- Alexander Johnson and Jon Kreft. I sympothize with coach Haith. When you start the season, you have a team you intend to play with and then you lose what four players in the post? But it's an unforgiving league. Every night you are expected to go out and play and go against quality teams, and no matter what the circumstances go out and get victories."


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The Nix hire was genius. You have a guy who has seen all the top players in your conference for 4 years. If you hire outside, time must be spent evaluating those top prospects in your conference. Nix can cross off one duty on his list and focus on other parts of his offense. Worried about experience?????? Are you nutz!!

I'm a Canes fan who happens to live in Atlanta, and one of the guys who works for me is a Georgia Tech alum. Throughout the entire 2006 football season, I heard this guy tell me how Tech never utilized the skills of Calvin Johnson, and how the running game wasn't reliable. After seeing Coach Shannon make this hire, my first reaction was to shout 'NOOOOOOOOOOO'. I hope I am wrong, but based on what I have seen and heard first hand, I am not convinced that Patrick Nix can do the job. I hope that I am wrong.

You talk about how Nix's success, such as it was, might be illusory, because of Johnson's extraordinary big-play ability. On the other hand, one could say that it's incredible what he achieved, considering he was working with Reggie Ball.

We'll just have to wait and see. One thing I'm happy to see is that they went with a guy who's young and ambitious.

From a die hard Miami fan sitting outside of Macon, Ga. this is a great hire. Father is an outstanding H.S. coach (state champion this year), good college background Auburn (11-0 as quarterback), and finally convinced Chan (I call the plays) that he should due what he was hired to do. Think about it, we all have been saying the last few years we need to hit the big plays. He knows that you must take advantage of your talent. He did everything he could, to utilize C. Johnson (would look good in Dolphin colors)but he was saddled with Reggie Ball whom Chan wanted. I truly believe that is one reason he wanted out. I love the hire of Shannon and think with Nix the "U" of Miami is back on track (remember when nobody came in to our house and won,National Record). Go CANES

Nix is a great hire. Who has coached at the U with all the experience? Look at last year experienced coaches and what did we do. NOTHING!!! Young and energetic is the answer. You will be eating these words come next January.

We've never hired experienced coaches at the U. I'm really starting to realize that most of our fanbase does not even understand the Cane Law's, traditions, and mentality. WE DON'T CARE what the experts think, the so-called elite coaches and assistants don't wanna come here..hello...we are the most hated university in the country. Coaches are made when they get to UM, not vice versa. This is the way we do things people! Nix wants to come because he knows that these kids are gonna make him a star. The philosophy stays the same here, it was absent with Coker as the CEO, but RS understands it. I welcome Nix: he's young, hungry, up & coming, and those are the traits that UM hires by. There are 3 kinds of people in this world: those who don't know what happened, those that wonder what happened, and people like us (RS), from the streets, that make things happen! -Bushwick Bill "Stranded on Death Row", The Chronic 1993.

experience???? who cares about that!! if Nix gets UM's offense to score 24ppg were gonna win a lot and I think we got good enough players to do better than 24ppg!! (remember all gt had was johnson) we've got good players all over the offense we just need to use there talents!! as far as recruiting it would be great to get any of those kids!! GET EM RANDY!!


I'm more of a wait and see kind of person so I'll reserve my thoughts on Nix until after I see Miami on the field next year. I will say that I like the fact that he's young and looking to make a name for himself. If you know your Miami history well enough you'll know that Miami never made it's name off of big time coaches. If anything, Miami made coaches and not the other way around. Schnelly, Jimmy, Dennis, Butch?????? Who were those guys before Miami???? My main concern is once again locking down South Florida in recruiting because if you can get the talent, it makes the coaching that much easier. No I don't mean what Scout and Rivals think either, I mean good evaluation from the coaches and locking down the players they want from South FLA because the talent is basically endless. One other thing, about your write up on recruitng. It was the average classes according to "experts" that made Miami a perennial BCS team, not the highly touted ones.

Again only time can tell here. GT's offense was not impressive last year but then again Reggie Ball couldnt pick apart a defense if his life depended on it, and outside Johnson they didn't have any other big playmakers. For now we should just trust Shannon's judgement because he has given us every reason to do so far. I read somewhere that Nix was a really good recruiter so hopefully he shows that in the coming days as Marve and some other big recruits visit. It is good to have a younger staff, the radiat more energy to the players and potential commits.

Quote from Hamilton: "We got quality kids, who worked hard, who played defense hard."

This is the one big difference between he and Haith. This basketball team does not play defense very well, and that more than anything could eventually prove to be Haith's downfall.

I'm looking foward to this year. I like who the coach is, and I am looking foward to see what he can do with Kyle, and Freeman. I really think Kyle and Freeman were victims of really bad coaching for the last three years. I think Kyle just lost a lot confidence after a while. I remember when he first started playing against FSU, and Clemson in his first year as a starter he did really well. Go CANES!!!

The author lacks authority/credibility to opine on the subject hire. Nix played the position of QB in the SEC and went undefeated. Auburn upset then number 1 Fla Gators in 1994 with Nix at QB. Born, raised, and played in Alabama and coached/lived in Georgia can certainly assist in Deep South Cane recruiting.

Patrick Nix can teach QB fundamentals on an intimate basis and has learned offense from Chan Gailey at GT. Gailey is an excellent offensive coordinator, but so-so head coach. See Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys on Gailey resume.

Nix learned under Professor Gailey for two years and was given the reins his third. Have you ever heard of an apprenticeship?? Maybe that is why your opinion sounds like a textbook driven moralist who lacks real world knowledge, you know, your garden variety academian in a cocoon.

Nix hire has the makings of an excellent fit. Hungry and aspires to learn more, just like the rest of Shannon's hires. And by the way, the reason that Shannon did not get any of the first three candidates is because each one of their respective employers (or to be) Jacksonville Jaguars, Minnesota Vikings, and Oklahoma Sooners gave them an immediate raise to assure they kept them or got them!! The only "panic" was on the part of the prospective OC candidates employers, that is, that they might lose them to the Canes.

Lastly, please recall that Paul Hilton "Butch" Davis was about the fourth or fifth choice to succeed Dennis Erickson. Paul Dee got lucky. Of course, that was a "panicky" hire also, because Butch had only tutored under JJ at UM and Dallas Cowboys.

Get a grip. Patrick Nix is a surprisingly refreshing new hire!! GO CANES!

Only time will tell. Nix will have the advantage of a great deal of returning players, and let's face it, it is still Miami, and we still have the potential to go all the way any given year.

One thing you have to give Nix credit for, is that he put 30 pts up against Shannons D. That, in and of itself, is impressive.

On the recruits, my hope is that they see Miami for what it really is. A great learning environment, a great campus, a family atmosphere and coaches who have the ability to make you a better person and player. We have had the best pipeline to the NFL in the past 10 years.

You need to do your research.

Nix served as Tech's running backs coach and recruiting coordinator in 2002 and running game coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 2003. Before this season he ran the two-minute offense and directed offensive meetings when coach Chan Gailey wasn't there. He's been calling plays since 2003 - running plays in 2003 & 2004 and calling running plays and plays during the 2-minute offense in 2005, and finally in 2006 everything.

The guy has enough experience...he's won as a player and as a coach....we'll find out soon enough who the real deal is at QB!

This is the type of hire I was hoping for - young, brash , energetic, and hungry!!

Go Canes!!

One more observation - look at GTech's bowl game....the back-up QB (a frosh) comes in throws for 3 TDs and 362 yards in place of Ball who was Gailey's favorite.

Keep this in mind...GTech averaged 24.9 point a game last year...if the U had avergaed the same ...The U would have been 10-2 last year with losses coming against Louisville and GTech and they only put up 31 and 30 respectively....think Nix can't get a one touchdown improvement with our players?

Nice to see the slap down that y'all did on whoever wrote the nonsense about Nix. It appears that the bloggers are able to do better research than the staff. I really like the Nix hire. As for not being a first choice, big deal. But we will have to wait and see. The staff isn't complete. Philosophies have to be put into place. And as someone said, one touchdown can make all the difference. Are the Herald sports writers ever positive about anything?

Disgraceful comments. From a hotel room in Tallahassee you determined this was a desperation hire.

Thats why this paper and your writers are a joke.

Manny, you should have gone to Publix in Tally. Loads of fine women there all the time. Plenty to do in Tally cause everyone's catering to all the college students there. Also, you didn't mention that GT had the leading rusher in the ACC Tashard Choice this year. So they had the leading rusher and receiver. That's pretty good if you ask me. You didn't mention that he has head coaching experience and also Brad Childress for Minnesota had been Philly's OC for years and never called their plays.

Nah, Manny's right: clearly, Nix is going to take the finely-tuned machine that Coker, Olson, and Berry perfected and run it into the ground--all because Randy Shannon is too panicky to throw away any chance at this Marve kid so he can continue going after established 40-something coordinators.

Manny you act like a copyboy not a reporter.
Pat Nix will prove he is a winner. When Coach Shannon makes a hire--BET ON IT.

is nix the answer?don't know.can he lead the cane offense?don't know.but what his hiring did was give miami structure in the form of an oc before marve and some of the beter recruits showed up .this at least lets marve know ,or a least give hin a hint,of what type of scheme will be run.it will give him and all offensive recruits an idea of what is in store for them.
was shannon scraping the bottom of the barrell after 3 rejections?i don't know and hopefuly nix can handle the job.
but one thing's for sure,if he hadn't hired nix there was zero chance of marve signing with the canes.
for all of us cane fans ,lets hope it works out and nix is the real deal.if not we're back to square one.
so lets sit back and give nix the benefit of the doubt(if you have any)and give him a chance.and if nix is able to recruit marve and a couple of other kids that are,at this moment ,headed elsewhre,it will have been a windfall.we can always go and get an oc next year if he doesn't work out.

I am very pleased with the hire of Nix. He worked under Gailey whose offensive coaching stills where good enough to almost get hired by the dolphins. The guy did a fine job last year and I think he will do the some here. I complained a couple of weeks ago asking where is the OC hire and someone told me to just wait I did and here is the hire. I love it; great job Shannon.

Concerning Nix I would not exactly call this a desperate hire unless I was a Gator or Nole Fan (The latter re-hiring Chuck? Tomato)Being Fourth on the list is not scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Being an ex-college QB for a successful program and being 11-0 is great expierence and could be what Marve and/or Fanuzzi needs to progress to the next level. And furthermore lets not forget the great alumni from the "U" that Randy Shannon can and will be tapping into.

If you guys read Randy Shannon comments on the Patrick Nix hire Randy really liked his in game adjustments. Thats where the real coaching begins. You can plan for what you think their gonna do the days before the game but if they switch up their game plan you have to be able to make adustments on the fly. The ratings on recruiting classes dont mean squat. Those powerhouse Miami teams didn't have high ratings. Those players had great work ethics and got better by hard work to be great college players. Not by resting on their merits and lisetening to some fool tell them there great high school players.

Saban may be consenting Marve to UM because Fanuzzi just committed to Alabama. I will gladly take this swap.

Well the Fanuzzi frenzy is finally over!! Thank God!! I dont know about anyone else but I am glad he switched to Alabama. I dont think he would have been a good fit in Miami anyways. He wasn't even close to being the best QB in his own state. Good luck Nicki!!

Scaw, the swap hasn't happen yet though. Marve has not decommited from Bama, and now they have Fanuzzi. We need at least one QB in this class.

It will be nice if we get Marve because he sounds like he is confident. You don't wan't to be here Nick we don't need you.

Perhaps he was told that? Either way I think he needed a hug and got one from Bama.

Maybe Marve needs a championship and Randy can provide one at the U.

nick "fonnzi" whatever his name is didnt watn to be here.. bastard is a liar saying he did... if he did then he would have stayed.... so rightfully he went to alabama with the other nick that lied and said he would stay and didnt. what worries me is at the moment we dont got a qb in the recruiting class. but if marve says hes good then the canes will be good i think he wants to be here . close to home w/ people that are passionate about their school

These kids nowadays are getting weaker and weaker, they don't want ANY parts of competition! They want to pay musical chairs and go where they are promised a starting job. In their defense, they didn't create this atmosphere...adults did: University boosters, coaches, AD's, & recruiting experts etc.. The kids are just playing this feeble game. I don't want ANY fragile recruits at UM, I'll be happy with those 3 star guys that are willing to listen and work their butts off to get better like: Portis, Lewis, Morgan, Vilma, Reed, Shockey, Andre Johnson, Moss, Wayne, Taylor, Winslow, etc.. U get the point, basically the whole Pro Bowl team from UM!

zakkee seems to hit the nail on the head. who the hell wants a five star premadonna... when you can have a 3 star work horse. bring back the glory days where the stars dont matter only the "i'm here cause this school saw what my potential is and now im goin to show it to the world " attitude... thats the true blood of the U thats what truely makes you bleed Orange and Green

Manny, maybe I read over the part when you mentioned he was the recruiting coordinator for GT and the school he was at prior to that. He was also A D1 AA head coach. Leaving these facts out, lead me to believe you read the research you wanted to read. You had a negative feeling twords him from the beginning and used the research that backed up your own opinion in your story and left out anything that would cast him in a positive light. Being a recruiting coordinator is huge in itself. We now have a leg up in Georgia and Alabama because with him comes all the contacts he has made over the years and that is HUGE!

if marve commits it will be a coup for the canes.fron what i've seen of marve and what i saw of fanuglia or whatever the liars name is,the"U" will get the best of this.
it's evident fanuglia didn't want any part of competition which is a bad sign in a qb.
now if marve doesn't sign,we've got problems.so lets think positive and call marve a cane and let the nomad nick have the guy to hand off left and handoff right...

We can start by turning off the T.V.(reality shows:American Idol included), putting restrictions on the computers, throw away all video games except the sports ones (in moderation), and finally take a walk down both sides of our streets to meet our neighbors. Lets introduce our kids and then CAPTAIN UP! These devices are making our kids anti-social and weak. Tackle up on the curb & grass and tag in the street. This is how kids learn how to: solve problems, interact, compromise, fix bloody noses, welcome competition ,get respect as well as give it, and basically grow balls properly. Bringing back Voltron, Thundercats, G.I. Joe, Fat Albert, The Smurfs, Dungeons & Dragons, Robotech, Transformers etc.. because they all taught lessons of team work! Don't laugh I'm serious LOL!

Zakkee...that last comment scared me a little bit... PUT DOWN THE BOTTLE BROTHER! This board is all about the U Not GI Joe & Voltron...

wtf are you talking about Zakkee?? Kids will come to the school to compete. I hate to use the example but look in Gainesville where Meyer has 2 five star QB's this year after one last year that will be the starter until he decides to leave. I'm sure Newton and Brantley knew there would be "competition" when they signed. And no more talk about society this is about Miami football.

Hey Fellow Posters,

I always read the board and today I found out my wife is 4 weeks pregnant with our first child, but anyways I thought why not start posting (and turn over a new leaf). I am a Hurricane fan until death, this past
season proved it! But, I just wanted to let everyone know that the 2007 Miami football schedule has been released (www.rivals.com), but for those who are lazy...

2007 Miami Hurricanes Football Schedule

Sat., Sept. 1; MARSHALL (5-7); TBD

Sat., Sept. 8; at Oklahoma (11-3); TBD


Thur., Sept. 20; TEXAS A&M (9-4); ESPN

Sat., Sept. 29; DUKE* (0-12); TBD

Sat., Oct. 6; at North Carolina* (3-9); TBD

Sat., Oct. 13; GEORGIA TECH* (9-5); TBD

Sat., Oct. 20; at Florida State* (7-6); TBD

Sat. Oct. 27; Off week

Sat., Nov. 3; NORTH CAROLINA ST.* (3-9); TBD

Sat., Nov. 10; VIRGINIA* (5-7); TBD

Sat., Nov. 17; at Virginia Tech* (10-3); TBD

Sat., Nov. 24; at Boston College* (10-3); ESPN

I see 9 victories (easy). What is everyone's feeling about Marve!? I have a good feeling about him. Although I still say Wright has the tools (potential), I think Marve (if he commits) might take us back to the Dorsey days!

I love having Big 12 teams on our schedule, the Big 12 is always an over rated conference, so we should get some quality wins out of it. Wonder if BC will slump to the bottom now.

Thanks for the schedule, Hurricane pat, and

As you guys can see, I posted that at 6 o'clock in he morning. I work 3rd shift 10:30 to 8:30am. I was a little sleepy so forgive me; towards the end I started to laugh at myself beause I was on my bulls***. Anyway, that Oklahoma game will be a HUGE step back to respectability for us, seeing that they're ranked in the preseason top 10 and we are no where to be found. We are going to shock the nation. d-money, I've never had a drink in my life, but I can understand your concern!

Thanks for the congrats, Norm, in about 18 years the Hurricanes will have a defensive back/safety or a Hurricane cheerleader! But to comment on Zakkee's post, I noticed that the 'Canes aren't in ANYBODY'S PreSeason 25 for next season. I know we had a "special" season last year, but with the team the Hurricanes have returning (with that crucial year of experience) I don't understand. The 'Canes should at least be somewhere between 17-25. I still say if CJ doesn't fumble on Louisville's 7 (and the 'Canes go up 14-0) it is a different season. A few plays here and there (at the end of games) and the 'Canes finish what...12-2/11-3!? (beat Wake in the ACC Championship). But, let me not wear out my welcome. I think the 'Canes start returning to their luster next season. Good hire on the head coach as well as the OC (young guy and seems hungry). The recruiting class is starting to look real good especially if Shannon & Co. can pull a couple of the names I have been hearing. GO CANES…7-6 & all!

Looks like the recruiting class is beginning to fill in nicely. Good to see that Chris Perry came to his senses and recommitted to the U. I would like to see a class of 20-22 recruits. I see that Urban Legend has 3 QB's coming in for the upcoming season. I dont understand why the need for so many. I guess there is no same in being a 4th stringer and running out to get the kicking tee.

Dirk Koetter, Kevin Rogers and Kevin Sumlin
any of these OC would be great, but for how long? before they move on to bigger better things (NFL or head coach)

congrats on the kid hurricane pat ill be watching 18 yrs from now when your kid takes the feild to lead the canes to the NC game.

Northerncanefan...stockin up on certain positions is an old trick coaches use to make sure the competition don't get certain quality players. Bobby Bowden used to love to do it to Miami. Unfortunately the kids ain't smart enough to notice that the only reason they're gettin recruited is to be shelved away from other schools. As for QB...I really hope The U lands Marve. I would love to see what Coach Nix could do with him bein a outstandin ex-qb himself. And let's not give up on Kirby Freeman either, remember Coker didn't really give the dude a chance to develop his game puttin all his faith in slow thinkin Kyle Wrong.

I have given up on Freeman. He is not a QB. If Nix has any sense Kyle Wright will be the starter. And how could you be a slow thinker with the offensive line he's had in front of him the past 2 years? DE's were constantly in our backfield while he was still making his 7 step drop.

scaw how can you be giving up on freeman.... and still w/ wright... freeman has played a total of 3 games and didnt play poorly .. at least equal to the play of wright, who has had 2 years over him. i wouldnt give the job strait to freeman but i would have a truely open competition and see who wins it ... and who knows if marve becomes the cane we all want him to be ... neither could be starting. but giving up on freeman after 3 games thats not strait thinking man

I read about Shawnbrey McNeal in a Texas high school magazine and from what I read this kid is the real deal. Very very fast and once he gets outside, he is gone. Nice signing for the Canes.

rivals just poseted we got another oral commit jared cambell... db so that makes 14 shannon is really starting to get it going ... thats really good to hear

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