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New Turkey Day Special: UM-USF

Sorry I haven't been around much this week, but like most of the people in the business I'm about to head off on three straight weeks of vacation -- its the only real time we can afford to be off -- and trying to get as many stories done before the summer break.

I just wanted to check in quickly for this news update just released from UM's sports information office. The Canes are going to be playing South Florida a lot over the next few seasons. Four times to be exact on Thanksgiving weekend from 2010 through 2013.

Miami was already scheduled to meet the Bulls in 2012 and 2013. But now they've added two more dates. The two new games added to the schedule are on Nov. 27, 2010 in Miami and Nov. 26, 2011 in Tampa. The dates of games already scheduled in September of 2012 and 2013 (which were announced a year ago) were changed to Nov. 24, 2012 in Miami and Nov. 30, 2013 in Tampa.

UM and USF will play on Sept. 26, 2009, which is the second game of a home-and-home series that began in 2005. The Hurricanes and Bulls played for the first time on Oct. 1, 2005 at the Orange Bowl with Miami winning 27-7.

"Coach Leavitt has done a tremendous starting the football program at USF," said Hurricanes head coach Randy Shannon in a statement released by UM. "These games will be a great experience for college football fans throughout the entire state of Florida."

Not sure how I really feel about this, except there is no doubt USF is coming out a winner. I know UM wanted to develop another out-of-conference rivalry like it once had with Florida State before Miami joined the ACC. But is scheduling the Bulls really the best choice? Or is USF simply the best AVAILABLE choice? On paper at least it seems that way when you consider the Gators have never really wanted to develop an annual rivalry with the Canes. USF is in the Big East and is obviously better and further along than UCF, FIU and FAU. But the day USF finally beats Miami -- and it will happen at least once -- it will be a huge victory for the Bulls and will help them build enough of a case in which they can finally claim to be somewhat equal to Florida's elite three.

I know USF hasn't won a national title. And that's still a distinct difference between it and the big three. But when USF can say it not only plays UM on a regular basis, but can beat them too, it invites real competition in recruiting. Right now, I don't care what anybody says, USF still is second-rate to Miami, Florida State and Florida and will not beat those three in a head-to-head battle for a big-time recruit. But the day the Bulls start beating one of those three on the field, it levels the playing field.

Anyway, those are my two cents. How do you feel about Miami and South Florida inking an ongoing series from 2009-2013? Is it smart for the Canes? Or do you like the fact UM is establishing another rivalry with an in-state program?

Answer the poll and chime in with your thoughts below.

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If/when they get back to being contenders for the championship, this is the game that lowers their cumulative strength of opponent. Canes have absolutely nothing to gain from this.

Another blunder from Heavy Dee.

UM has NOTHING to gain from this and EVERYTHING to lose.

I like this. It's good to have those in state games. Should be a good turnout since its such a short ride between the two location. Also, I like it cause USF is pretty good. I want to see UM playing games where the outcome isn't a given. I can't stand watching teams playing a whole bunch of eastern or western wherevers. We play duke already, that's enough garbage teams for the schedule.

i say if they need an in-state rivalry they already got one.. and they dont need to even leave town for it. is it good .. i think soo florida is one of the best places for football in all the USA and you will always find good competition here. i just think its a waist of gas... just a question? y are UM Fans sooo against going up agianst up and coming programs?

Id rather see them schedule an OOC game out of state against a top team.

If/when Miami wins it will be no big deal because they are supposed to. If they somehow lose, then its a huge upset and even bigger gain for the USF program. What does UM get out this deal?

It will take decades for USF to overcome any of the big 3. Bring em on and the U will pound them!!

i think the only in-State school that would be able to generate a good Crowd and form a NATURAL.. not FABRICATED rivalry is FIU. its a cross-town rivalry that will be formed. its the Easiest and the most plausable.

Go BULLS !!!

Looking to even the series in 2009.

UM has nothing to gain from playing USF, if we win we are expectd and if we lose we invite competition from USF in recruiting.

Hopefully when Dee is gone the games are bought out. Stupid mistake.. we should see Dee for the buyout fees

I can hear South Florida coaches now...Why go to Miami? You won't play right away and we play against them. Stay home in Tampa and you still get the big time game.

Dee does nothing but legitimize competition for recruits like he did by scheduling FIU.

Dumb move but what else should fans expect from Dee? UM will lose more recruits if and when they move to Dolphin stadium. What an atmosphere for college football.

Why should Miami be afraid to play anybody?

"The purpose is to serve 'beat-downs' regardless of the opponent. This is strictly business, nothing personal"

You guys are thinking like old timers!!! You don't have to correct mindset!!

Once a team steps on the field, it is time to go to work. The hell with who it is, where they are located, and who is in the stands.

More big news coming out of the UCG; five game series with USF (the same team FIU had beat with 3' left in the game) woo hoo!

50,000 at the OB for the FIU game is going to be their largest home date of the season. If you want those types of crowds in the future, we're going to have to renegotiate terms.

By the way, don't look behind you, something might be catching up. lol.

These FIU fans are delusional. USF is a good, up-and-coming team, and having a rivalry with them not only might help recruiting in the Tampa area, but it'll fit in nicely with the national "rivalry weekend" around Thanksgiving. I'd rather play a team like USF (from a BCS conference) than some random out-of-state directional school that would only get 35-40k fans at the OB. Yeah, having the Gators play us year-in, year-out would be MUCH better, but as long as Gators taste just like chicken, don't expect that to happen.

Besides, we almost lost to DUKE last year, and I didn't see that hurt recruiting. If we end up losing a game to USF, so what? Kids don't make decisions on where to go based on the result of one game. It might give them more interest in USF, but if they want to be a Cane, they'll still be a Cane.

Let's hope Randy gets this bus turned around. Otherwise this will be a second tier rivalry game after UF/FSU. Maybe that's all we can expect after the Cokerization of all our sports programs. In case you haven't noticed, we suck at basketball and baseball, too. This will be FATBOY'S legacy...just like he always wanted. DON'T HIRE ANYMORE RATLIZZURDS, you idiots!

Let's hope Randy gets this bus turned around. Otherwise this will be a second tier rivalry game after UF/FSU. Maybe that's all we can expect after the Cokerization of all our sports programs. In case you haven't noticed, we suck at basketball and baseball, too. This will be FATBOY'S legacy...just like he always wanted. DON'T HIRE ANYMORE RATLIZZURDS, you idiots!

Let's hope Randy gets this bus turned around. Otherwise this will be a second tier rivalry game after UF/FSU. Maybe that's all we can expect after the Cokerization of all our sports programs. In case you haven't noticed, we suck at basketball and baseball, too. This will be FATBOY'S legacy...just like he always wanted. DON'T HIRE ANYMORE RATLIZZURDS, you idiots!

I have been a Canes fan since 1988 and it has never been an issue where Miami played, whom they played, they won no matter the environment. But I would have to say moving out of the Orange Bowl would be a big mistake. Just as Coker got away from recruititng South Florida players, Dee and Shalala seem to also want to get away from South Florida. This move is being considered to change the image of Miami football. Miami's losing has nothing to do with the OB, it has more to do with bad coaching. Paul Dee and Donna Shalala made one major poopoo by leaving the Big East, lets hope they dont make another major one by leaving the OB.

I have been a Canes fan since 1988 and it has never been an issue where Miami played, whom they played, they won no matter the environment. But I would have to say moving out of the Orange Bowl would be a big mistake. Just as Coker got away from recruititng South Florida players, Dee and Shalala seem to also want to get away from South Florida. This move is being considered to change the image of Miami football. Miami's losing has nothing to do with the OB, it has more to do with bad coaching. Paul Dee and Donna Shalala made one major poopoo by leaving the Big East, lets hope they dont make another major one by leaving the OB.

Another HORRIBLE move by Paul Dee. Paul once again punishes Miami fans with his scheduling mishaps.

1) The game is played on Thanksgiving for the next 5 years or so. Miami fans and boosters will have to choose between family and Football. In south fla that is a battle that will ALWAYS be won by Family. We attend every Miami home game and travel from 4 hours away to do so, we'll miss every one of these games. Thanks Paul

2) The Thanks Giving game vs BC this year should have shown Paul Dee what a DREADFUL move this would be, about 15-20k people showed up for that game. Paul Dee is as inept as they come as an AD

3) Why on Earth do you sign a 5 year deal to play USF home and home??????? Why? Are they on even playing field with Miami to where we just give them "home and home's?".

4) Dumbo Dee obviously didn't realize how severely this limits us in scheduling other big games in early September because it forces the ACC schedule to be played earlier and thus limits open dates during typical OOC game season.

5) Miami struggles relative to other major programs because of moves like these that showcase nothing except for the ineptness of our AD. It is a PERFECT example of why Paul has been a FAILURE at UMiami for the last 15 years.

6)someone please remove Paul Dee NOW, not 1 year from now

thanks

Who are we the Gaytors?, to be affraid of competition.

Although i think the deal was bad. We should have made it 4 home games and 2 away games. since we hold the leverage cause we are "The University of Miami".

DEE has botched it because instead of signing that deal w/ a Hometown team and a Natural Rivalry he signed w/ a team far away. i get wanting to bring up another instate rivalry, its good for Recruiting but on T-day . i have to agree with "Dee is Horrible" you aint goin to get fans to go to tampa if the family dont let them. family will win out.. if the 5 year play would have been against FIU it would be more acceptable to Family cause at least after the game you can come home

If it helps recruiting from the Lee, Collier, Sarasota, Polk, Pinellas and Hillsborough counties (Tampa Bay) area, then heck yeah! There is a lot of talent out there.

But don't U forget it, like Shannon like to remind everyone, the U is all about our community (South Florida: Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach). That's where the heart is.

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o and to OrangeCane, im not saying USF isnt an up and coming team im just saying if you want to start an in state rivalry why travel to the west coast when you can stay in your own city and recuit in Dade and Broward. those are 2 of the best counties in Florida when it comes to recruits anyways. would you rather recruits that your are suppose to be trying to get to watch the game at home or at the stadium?

I'm tired of FIU fans/alumni saying Miami needs to schedule more games with them. No we don't. FIU showed what they're about last season: cheap shots and playing like punks. We shouldn't even play the game this year. USF on the other hand is part of a BCS conference and has been competitive recently. They beat one of the big 3 in the Big East every year, have a good coach and are on their way up. Its not about us "helping someone out" its about us wanting another in-state rivalry to develop, and UF doesn't want it every year (can you blame'em, its always an "L" on their schedule). We've got Oklahoma, Cal and Ohio State on the schedule for home and homes, and there's rumors that we're trying for Texas, Tenn, and USC. With a big conference schedule, you can't ask for much more. Let's stop the bitchin and start supporting the team again.

>>>FIU showed what they're about last season: cheap shots and playing like punks<<<

Boy if that's not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.

UCG has a couple of these every year, plus thugs blowing or getting blown away on a regular basis.

Maybe one day they will take responsibility for their actions and stop pointing their fingers at everyone else......nah.

Caniacjon ya USF is part of a big conference the big east. I think they took your vacancy that the U left. I just find it ridiculous that you guys want another instate rival plan it around thanksgiving and plan games at Tampa which you know your fans won’t go to b/c they will be w/ family in Miami, so you will have no fan support. All im saying is that it would have been wiser to plan it with FIU its in city w/ potential to become a USC/UCLA type game.

And saying we started it? If im not mistaken wasn’t it a UM player bowing to the FIU fans antagonizing the Fiu players? Ya. Just because we threw the first punch don’t mean we started it, you guys showed a lack of respect and they defended their fans.

Meyer's a pansy. Meyer's a pansy. Meyer's a pansy. He won't come out of his pink and mauve colored closet to play us, that is why USF is the only available viable instate choice. UFag doesn't want part of the Shannon era. Beating Vandy is tough enough I guess.

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