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Ripple effects, plus Live Q&A tonight

One of the greatest fears Canes fans have about this year's team is that if the team struggles again, it could potentially cost them a few of the top-line recruits coach Randy Shannon and his staff have managed to corral in the early going of building what could be a stellar 2008 Class -- something extremely and obviously important to Miami's future.

So far, UM's 2-1 start has been pretty unimpressive -- especially on offense, where quarterback issues and red zone issues have led Miami to put up some ugly numbers. The Canes rank 83rd in scoring offense (22.33 ppg), 99th in total offense (302.67 ypg) and 113th in passing offense (130.67 ypg) out of 119 I-A teams. For those of you worried about these type of figures being used against Miami commitments, THERE IS REASON TO BE SCARED.

Last night, I spoke to Miami Booker T. Washington receiver and current Cane commitment Davon Johnson, who visited Gainesville this past weekend with teammate Brandon Harris (a four-star cornerback on Miami's radar), Ely 5-star cornerback Patrick Johnson (another UM commitment) and several other local players Miami's interested in including Krop linebacker Etienne Sabino. From what Johnson told me, it sounds like the Gators are using Miami's offensive struggles against the Canes.

"It opened my eyes. Coach sat me down and really broke down the offensive schemes they run [at Florida]. He told me about the catches I could get compared to Miami catches. Yes, it's causing me to worry because every receiver wants the ball. If your not giving the receiver the ball, why should I go there?"

While Johnson told me he is still a Miami commitment, he admitted it is now 50-50 between UM and UF. Johnson, a four-star receiver who made Miami fans drool when he starred in Booker T.'s nationally televised beating of Summerville, S.C., last month, said though he will still make UM his last visit. He plans on visiting South Florida, South Carolina and LSU before then.

Monday, though, Johnson said he got a visit from a few fellow Cane commitments and Northwestern players when quarterback Jacory Harris, defensive tackle Marcus Forston and linebacker Sean Spence passed by his practice (the trio also stopped by UM Monday). Johnson said all three told him to follow his heart, but still pushed the Canes (CLICK HERE TO HEAR THE COMPLETE AUDIO INTERVIEW AS WELL AS MY INTERVIEWS FROM MONDAY'S PRESS CONFERENCE).

Miami fans should expect some of this to go on as the year goes on, especially in light many of these recruits will stay make visits to other schools. They should also expect to hear the type of rumors coming out of Gainesville regarding receiver Deonte Thompson, a 5-star receiver out of Belle Glade Glades Central who picked Florida over Miami last year.

Shannon said during his press conference Monday he's received phone calls from freshmen at other schools who have shown interest in transferring. I've spoken to a source who told me it could happen, but cautioned the more it gets publicized the more likely it won't occur.

Anyway, I'm running late for practice. I'll be back later tonight for a live Q&A between 8 and 9 p.m. Leave me some questions here for later tonight. 

ON A PERSONAL NOTE: I got back from Dallas Sunday after nine days out in the Midwest and have to say I'm happy to be back home. The trip was a lot of fun and my wife and I got to see a lot aside from UM's loss in Norman and Miami Northwestern's big win in Texas.

We visited Oklahoma City and the memorial to the bombing victims of the federal building. We took a hiking trip down to Dinosaur Park in Glen Rose, Texas (which boasts the longest dinosaur footprints in the US). We made the four and a half-hour drive down to San Antonio to see the Alamo and the famous Riverwalk. And we went into downtown Dallas to see the Sixth Floor Museum where Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK (plus, a walk around the famous grassy knoll). For those of you who like to travel or might have made the trip yourselves, feel free to share your thoughts one some of the places we hit this past week. I'd love to hear your experiences.

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First? Wow!

Sup Manny?
Hope all is well with U.
once again I must say thanks for your support at Canespace.com!
My question for tonight.
How long can we allow a sub par punter to give away critical yds?
Why don't we let Daren Daly try?
Matt Bosher is killing our field position.
your thoughts?

Posted by: OCALACANE | September 18, 2007 at 10:01 AM

How long will it take for everyone to realize that we need more discipline on the field. Penalties and not completing your assignment is also part of discipline. RS needs to whip their butts into shape on the field.

I think the GayTurds are peons for stealing on our downfalls as opposed to highlighting their own program...And I don't care which recruit U are in the words of the Boss if U don't have us #1 in Ur heart Don't Come We Don't Need U...We'll be the U without U...And if Deonte is playing now...What makes U think U will play...Think About it...
Roll with the U...Or get malled by the new U MNW boys are really all we need anyway...

I noticed this news on Scout and Rival's websites over the weekend. I believe that we WILL lose several recuits over the season, while at the same time picking up others. You have to remember these are 17 and 18 year old KIDS who are going through a lot of decision making at this point in their life. Seeing Florida smack Tennessee with a crowd/atmosphere like that is definitely tempting to ANY player. I believe the U is moving in the right direction, and sometimes having 4 and 5-star athletes doesnt make the difference. Look at the University of South Florida. They have average athletes (with all due respect), but through coaching and discipline have made news over the last few seasons. Miami has a good coach in Shannon, a great facility coming their way, and a heck of a lot of tradition and academics to sell. In conclusion, Shannon should stay his path and I believe the success will come at the appropriate time. Everyone needs to realize we can not feasibly go from 7-6 to 11-1 or 10-2. While I admit we WILL do better this year, us UM fans should be prepared for some "bumps" along the way. And unfortunately, recruits are part of the process. Just remember, we're already in the top 5 recruiting classes anyway.

Not shocked to see UF using those type tactics to sway kids, I hope none of them fall for it. Recruits can look at it the way UF wants them to or they can look at the UM offense as a chance to step in right away and make an impact. Lets see, spend your time sitting the bench and blocking for running plays at UF or come in, start right away and catch passes at UM...it should be an easy choice.

Manny...

What's the mystery behind Kosar NEVER becoming AD of even being considered? Just trying to clear up a rumor!

Also are there any other former CANES considering helping out the U? i.e. Dorsey/Walsh QB Coach.

I hope this kid doesn't get hurt. Pompano Ely has to have the dumbest coaches in all of High School Football. This kid is definitely a great player, but these idiots play PJ at 10, count 'em TEN POSITIONS!!!!
QB, RB, FL, WR, K, P, CB, S, PR, & KR. This kid was cramping and was having some Hamstring issues nad they kept putting him back in the game. I know he was trying to show his toughness, but when do you as an adult tell the kid to sit down before you hurt yourself.
He seems like a solid recruit and I think he will definitely be better than Kenny Phillips and that's Speaking Volumes. (He's That Good) This kid is the real deal, but I think his father is trying to steer him away from Miami, so don't be surprised if he goes somewhere else.
Shandel I know you feel he is a Solid committ, but I beg to differ since his father is the one dragging him off to these other schools for visits. We will have to wait and see!!

If these commits are so worried about the Canes Offense why don't they come and make it better, rather than complaining about it. Every team has ups and downs, Florida was a Door Mat just a few years ago. Thats the problem today everyone wants to be Mr. Right Now, and not look forward to the future. We won a National Championship in 2001 with a crew of 2&3 Star players with HEART. Something alot of these younger guys and 5 star recruits seem not to have.

MANNY!

I will throw them all at you so I don't have to do multiple post!

1- Streeter is awsome! what's the deal with his recrecuiting decision?

2- Any Updates on Matt Patchman?

3- Any Idea when Marve will be ready or are we looking at him being red shirted?

4- Is Davon that big of a lost with the WR we have coming in.

5- Any chance with Sands from Carol City?

6- How did the SouthLake fans REALLY handle the loss?

Thanks!

Manny,

I was born in Dallas and have lots of family there. I flew into DFW for the OU game and spent time with family afterwards. Isn't the 6th floor museum amazing? They did a great job giving an objective, unfiltered account of all of the facts leading up to JFK's assassination.

If you get a chance to get back to Dallas, I highly recommend that you spend an evening in the West Village. Great bars, restaurants, and galleries -- it's got sort of a Lincoln Road feel to it.

Also, if you're there during stone crab season, check out Trulucks. It's more laid back than Joe's (what isn't?), and most importantly, Trulucks has an ALL YOU CAN EAT STONE CRAB special. You can't beat that!

U know what. if kids fall for coaches bad mouthing other programs do we really want those type of kids anyways?i remember watching an interview of some the top recruits last year and one thing most of them said that annoyed them the most was coaches bashing another teams school.i used to have a lil respect for meyer because of the way he gets his players to play,but that's just dirty man.he has all the talent in the world up there,but since he knows he has to play us the next 2 years he is using whatever works to keep talent out of the U's hands.won't work though-even if we lose davon,marcus or damon(patrick ain't leavin the U-write that down)we still have a top recruiting class,so i'm not worried,but now it makes me wanna kick the shyt outta the gayturds even more now.

manny navarro = chicken little

despite 7-6, unsolved murder, infamous brawl, staff shake-up, obsolete stadium, ESPN ranked our 2007 class #9. IMMUNE

uf police = jackbooted stormtroopers

The only comment I would to make at this time is for the recruits that are commited to Miami and want to change to their minds is to do it right now that way Miami can go ahead and recruit the other guys that would love to come to Miami, like if Davon Johnson wants to go to Florida now go ahead and change your commitment, that way Miami can after Thompkins from Northwestern whom I really believe is a better receiver anyways. Plus if Jacory Harris does keep his commitment then most os the offensive problems that UM is having will get fixed. You can not get something fix if you do not have the tools to fix it with. So anyone that wants to change their mind as long as is not some of the guys from the west, go ahead so we can get the guys that want to come to the U.

Also I would like to ask all the so called UM fans that do not even go to games to stop bashing on UM. If you are not willing to go to the games then do not get in this blog to talk about how sh**** we are. Get some information first and let the coaches develop the young players we have and let the coaching staff bring in a couple of recruiting classes before we start passing judgement.

Last but not least, Manny what is going with Kayne Farquharson? I tought he was going to come in and provide a spark for this team but so far he has looked worst than Khalil Jones. And how many guys do you think UM will lose from this up coming class if any?

http://www.insidetheu.com/blogs/?v=1 insidetheu's christopher stock: "Multiple sources have confirmed Deonte Thompson is considering transferring from Florida to Miami." name your sources, mr. stock ...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/loxahatchee/gophersgame/minnesotaweek040.jpg if florida atlantic edges a big10 bottom-feeder ... and no one is around to hear it ... does is it make a sound?

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/floridapolitics/entries/2007/09/18/crists_new_higher_ed_advisor.html pbpost's michael c. bender: "Dean Colson, former University of Miami board of trustees chairman, was selected this afternoon to serve as a special advisor to Gov. Charlie Crist on higher education issues." FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES

Is it really a surprise to any fan/recruit of Miami that we're struggling this year? This 'Sept Scare' blog--6 months before signing day--ticks me off.

Miami fans, remember this: In 2002, the year UM crushed Florida at the Swamp, Ron Zook responded by reeling in the amazing Chris Leak class that was the foundation of last years national championship. I believe Randy will do the same. Why worry now? Let's focus on crushing Texas A&M--Go Canes!

Randy Shannon will be okay so please be patient with him and let coach Shannon build a once proud and still proud program

Sabino said that his visit to UF was a 6 or a 7. Seems like it is UM or OOS for him. What have you heard latley?

We have a very young team and thats why they didn't play well under the lights of Okla with that many people.

We need new blood at QB. This team is improving but needs the games to temper the freshmen playing.

RS and Nix are already looking ahead with all the freshmen being played in the games. THis will pay off big time later....

I would be very surprised if we did not lose a few recruits to the Gators. They are top dog right now, the Canes have no identity on offense, and Meyer is as good a recruiter as they come. This is just reality right now. And as crazy as it sounds I think Meyer is underestimated as a recruiter on a lot of the Canes message boards I have been on. He is a master at telling these young kids what they want to hear. He knows what buttons to press to get them dreaming and drooling about their own glory. Is there anything wrong with this? I don't believe so. The man gives them a vision. It's what all great leaders do. I think some Cane fans need to get off their high horse and stop being so bitter and jealous of the Gator program and just acknowledge Meyer is a great recruiter. Then you (we) can move on and focus on the bright future the Canes have with Marve and Harris leading the way.

I dont think anyone is underestimating Urban and the rest of the staff's ability to recruit, I think most of the criticism stems from the way they go about doing it.

I would be very surprised if we did not lose a few recruits to the Gators. They are top dog right now Posted by: C$ | September 18, 2007 at 06:21 PM why hasn't oscar closed the deal?

Manny...injury update on the DTs please? Who back in the rotation for this week and waht about Chris Perry and Josh Holmes?

How many times do we see JJ and COOP together in the backfield against TAMU?

My neighbors daugther can punt the ball 35 yards every time and she's only 14! Do our punters actually train for 3 years in HS and one year at the U and punt every day for 3 months and still can't? HUH?

I say Canes 34, TAMU 27. What say U?

oscar seduced only 2 South Florida recruits NSD '07: DT & MW. THAT'S IT

Meyer is a great recruiter. Posted by: C$ | September 18, 2007 at 06:21 PM so was spurrier. how'd he do in SFLA? SHUT OUT

C$: top dog now does not = top dog down the road

I don't care if oscar was the second coming of jesus christ superstar ... crackers repel homeboys. DEAL BREAKER

Davon Johnson has thought things over and told canesport that he is a Cane. Manny your thoughts?

Q: Sup Manny? Hope all is well with U. once again I must say thanks for your support at Canespace.com! My question for tonight. How long can we allow a sub par punter to give away critical yds? Why don't we let Daren Daly try? Matt Bosher is killing our field position. your thoughts? Posted by: OCALACANE | September 18, 2007 at 10:01 AM

A: Bosher didn’t have a great game against FIU. He had 3 kicks for an average of 33.3 yards. Terrible by most standards. But before then, coaches said they were pleased with the fact opponents weren’t returning many of his punts. He’s had eight fair catches on the season including four inside the 20 among his 17 punts. His 36.2 average isn’t great. But I think he’s going to remain the man until Daly starts showing more in practice. Of course, we never said kicking was going to be a strength this season. Bosher is simply a disappointment considering he was so highly touted coming out of high school.

OK guys. We're getting started now. Fire away. I'll try to go back and answer some of the questions already posted.

How about recruiting a PUNTER!

On Scout they have the top 15 punters listed and NONE of them have the Canes in their top 5.

It also shows that the Canes are NOT currently recruiting ANY punters at this time!!! Please don't make the same mistake here that U made at QB...

Hey Manny...86 here. Tell us a little about the MNW-SLC game. What was that experience like?

Q: Manny... What's the mystery behind Kosar NEVER becoming AD of even being considered? Just trying to clear up a rumor! Also are there any other former CANES considering helping out the U? i.e. Dorsey/Walsh QB Coach. Posted by: HORNETCANE | September 18, 2007 at 04:11 PM

A: Not sure why Kosar hasn’t made more of a push to become the next AD. I’m sure he’s interested and would probably make a great replacement for Paul Dee. But as far as other Canes getting involved in coaching, Ken Dorsey would be a great quarterbacks coach here. We’ve asked Randy many times why the team doesn’t specifically have a QB coach and haven’t really gotten a clear answer. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Miami eventually lands one next season.

punters are a dime a dozen. just ask #1 prep punter Matt Bosher ; )

The TAMU punter averages 45 yards per kick. If we give up 10 yards each time we exchange punts and each team punts 5 times during the game, well you get the picture...

"How about recruiting a PUNTER!

On Scout they have the top 15 punters listed and NONE of them have the Canes in their top 5.

It also shows that the Canes are NOT currently recruiting ANY punters at this time!!! Please don't make the same mistake here that U made at QB...
"

Why would you waste a schollie on a punter?

* Shannon says he isn't talking to any potential transfers. He says they have to get a release before he'll talk to them.

With rumors swirling around Deonte Thompson possibly transferring - despite some media outlets that have debunked the possibility - Shannon was asked if he would accept any transfers.

"It depends who it is," Shannon said. "I don't worry about things like that right now."

any truth here, Manny?

Q: Hey Manny...86 here. Tell us a little about the MNW-SLC game. What was that experience like? Posted by: 86Cane | September 18, 2007 at 08:03 PM

A: Amazing experience for me personally. For many years, I've been a believer the best football teams and players have resided in our hometown. Seeing Northwestern blow a number of opportunities and still pull off a 29-21 victory against a team crowned the mythical national champion each of the past three seasons brought a smile to my face. Northwestern and Booker T. Washington are two tremendous programs who have won a lot in the last few seasons. But there were many other great programs before them -- Carol City, Southridge, St. Thomas Aquinas -- who never really got that respect for what they accomplished here. The fact these teams went on the road and won shows the rest of the country that South Florida is more than just a football factory. These teams on the field deserve more respect than they've received.

Q: MANNY! I will throw them all at you so I don't have to do multiple post! 1- Streeter is awsome! what's the deal with his recrecuiting decision? 2- Any Updates on Matt Patchman? 3- Any Idea when Marve will be ready or are we looking at him being red shirted? 4- Is Davon that big of a lost with the WR we have coming in. 5- Any chance with Sands from Carol City? 6- How did the SouthLake fans REALLY handle the loss? Thanks! Posted by: CANESFAN! | September 18, 2007 at 04:19 PM

A: 1. Streeter isn’t going to make his college choice until after the season. But believe me, Jacory Harris, Marcus Forston and Aldarius Johnson are in his ear everyday about going to The U. 2. Haven’t gotten any updates on Patchan. But I still think Miami is the leader in the clubhouse. 3. This is a question a lot of Canes fans are asking about. I saw Marve today and have seen him playing catch with his teammates plenty. The bottomline is, he really hasn’t taken a snap in practice yet. I think he’ll work his way back into practice at some point before the end of the season. But I think the likelihood he’ll play this year is about 20 percent. 4. Davon Johnson is likely the second best receiver recruit in this class. He’s fast, smart and talented. If Miami were to lose him, it would hurt. 5. I don’t think Miami is interested in Sands. 6. Southlake fans were pretty classy after the loss to Northwestern. I just kind of laughed at the reaction by most in the media in Dallas, who spun it along the lines of Southlake making too many uncharacteristic mistakes instead of giving Northwestern credit.

hey manny navarro, how'd your blog do in august?

Manny,

I wanted to get an update on Corey Liuget. How's he doing this season and do you think he ends up a Cane when it's all said and done?

Q: Last but not least, Manny what is going with Kayne Farquharson? I tought he was going to come in and provide a spark for this team but so far he has looked worst than Khalil Jones. And how many guys do you think UM will lose from this up coming class if any Posted by: canes25 | September 18, 2007 at 05:22 PM

A: Kayne has had trouble grasping the offense. But he’s working hard to get some playing time. I think its more of a matter of Miami’s offense struggling as a whole. The fact the receivers ahead of him aren’t getting it done and this offense isn’t getting it done, hasn’t allowed some of the second teamers to see much of the field. As far losing guys in this next class. I’m pretty confident the majority of the local kids will end up Canes. Jordan Futch, Sean Spence, Aldarius Johnson, Marcus Forston, Jacory Harris – all of these kids have honestly been upgraded from potential recruit to recruiting coordinators. They’ve been hunting after other kids locally. I’d be shocked if they didn’t become Canes.

why havent we really seen ferquharson this year and what are the odds of marve getting some PT and taking over for kyle this year

Q: Shannon says he isn't talking to any potential transfers. He says they have to get a release before he'll talk to them. With rumors swirling around Deonte Thompson possibly transferring - despite some media outlets that have debunked the possibility - Shannon was asked if he would accept any transfers. "It depends who it is," Shannon said. "I don't worry about things like that right now." any truth here, Manny? Posted by: miamimike01 | September 18, 2007 at 08:07 PM

A: I'm actually the reporter who asked him about this. The only insight I have on this is that Thompson has yet to contact the one connection he has on UM's staff. Do your homework and you'll figure out who that is. If he was interested in coming and not just running his mouth at being upset about not playing in a game this season, he likely would have called the people he knows at Miami and voiced his desire to leave Florida. I think Shannon would take Deonte considering how close he was to coming to Miami in the first place. But the likelyhood he ends up here is very little. Miami plays Florida next year. I highly doubt Urban Meyer is going to let him come here. In fact, I'm not sure what kind of policies he has toward leaving to SEC or rival schools. But I imagine, much like UM has its own rules about transferring to future opponents, Florida has to have its own set of rules too.

Manny,

What's up with Tervaris Johnson? With all the early mixups in the secondary, I thought i'd see him at safety at some point.

Also, did Adwale Ojomo get a redshirt or has he just not ready to see the field?

Uh, Mike if I'm not mistaken we have 2 punters on scholly right now! Bosher and Daly. U see there is this little thing called field position and...oh, never mind!

Q: Manny...injury update on the DTs please? Who back in the rotation for this week and what about Chris Perry and Josh Holmes? How many times do we see JJ and COOP together in the backfield against TAMU? My neighbors daugther can punt the ball 35 yards every time and she's only 14! Do our punters actually train for 3 years in HS and one year at the U and punt every day for 3 months and still can't? HUH? I say Canes 34, TAMU 27. What say U? Posted by: 86Cane | September 18, 2007 at 07:05 PM

A: Good questions 86. I spoke with Clint Hurtt for awhile today about the defensive tackles. Basically, Miami is going to have its three best back this week healthy and ready to roll – Josh Holmes, Dwayne Hendricks and Antonio Dixon. Hurtt told me Dixon had his best week of practice so far this year and will start. I think their return this week is probably the best news for Miami considering how good Texas A&M is at running the football. As far as seeing JJ and Cooper together in the backfield this week, I’m not sure what Patrick Nix has up his sleeve. I think we’re still going to see a lot more of them switching in and out. Although, you’ll likely see a lot of Shawnbrey McNeal this week beyond kick returns. I’m going to give my prediction in tomorrow’s blog.

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