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What ails JC about the Canes? He tells us it's Miami's offense. Read what one of our guest bloggers has to say about it.

About JC: His name is Justin Carlson and he flew into Miami this afternoon to attend Saturday's Georgia Tech game. But before he left, he left us his take. Here it is...

Canes fans, like the U itself, are a strange bunch compared to the mainstream of college football. Some fans are a fickle group that shows up for big games during winning seasons. Then there is the hardcore group I am proud to be a part of. But no matter our level of dedication, we’ve all been privileged to an astounding run of five national titles in 25 years and six other bowl games where a national title was a possibility. The home winning streak and the NFL talent and everything is well documented. We’ve only suffered through two breaks in the dominance: from 1995-1998 and the present day.

As fans without the excuse of scholarship restrictions, we’ve struggled to rationalize how the U arrived at this point and what can be done. Recently on this blog we confronted that issue and almost unanimously the belief is recruiting. The problem was the lapse under Coker and the solution is Shannon being awesome at it. Emphasis has been placed on reclaiming what Howard Schnellenberger proclaimed “the State of Miami” when he drew a recruiting line behind which the U would always dominate.

We’re all excited with what Randy has done thus far, but are we getting ahead of ourselves? What do we expect? Obviously the goal is a national title, and none of us expect to have to wait 10 years between them. But I’ve seen lots of people saying national title in two years. That would be 2009, a schedule featuring Oklahoma, Clemson, @USF, @FSU, @Va Tech.

Granted, national titles are won in years you least expect it. No one at all saw the ’83 title coming, ’87 was a rebuilding year, ’89 was the first year of a coach transition. However, I’d be curious to know not only what ails the Canes, but what ails the fans? And what do you “reasonably” expect/demand from Shannon’s recruits?

Personally, this is what ails me:

2003 vs. Tennessee, L 10-6; vs. Syracuse W 17-10
2004 vs. Clemson L 24-17 in OT, vs. VaTech L 16-10
2005 vs. FSU L 10-7, vs. Georgia Tech L 14-10, vs LSU L 40-3
Point Average: 9 per game

This is not the occasional no-show game, it’s a trend. Most of these low-scoring games are not only losses, they are painful to watch. Last season was filled with nothing but horrible wins and losses. The 14-13 win against Houston. The Labor Day game against FSU which was the single most boring and horribly played game I’ve ever seen in my life. Losing sucks, but I don’t mind losing to elite teams in entertaining fashion as much. I hate watching the Canes struggle to win or lose and put up points against average to poor defenses. The Duke and FIU games this year were atrocious.

I don't care about undefeated right away. What I want from Shannon’s recruits within two years is at least an average of 25 points per game. Miami has won over 150 consecutive games when scoring 31 or more points. I want two to three 40 plus point games and at least one blowout per year. I want to see everything the current Canes lack: a fire on the field, a magnet for the end zone, a will to win while there is time on the clock no matter what the score or situation, a determination to represent the U and be proud no matter who turns against them or what people say. I want it to be a Canes thing again, and I don’t want anyone else to understand. No excuses, just execution.

More than anything, I want to enjoy watching football. Canes football. I can’t help but believe that if the Canes make football fun again, the worst they can ever do is 9-3 and somewhere in there the national title will take care of itself.


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This is the best! I mean c'mon! You want what we have already! We are averaging 25.3 points agame this year and we blew out Marshall! That is NOT good enough for the "U" it just isn't. Look back to our last Championship. We put up 70 points on Rytgers and just blasted everyone. That is the Mentality of Champions, to never stop. This team, at this time, does not have that mentality. If we were to score 40+ point in 2-3 games for us to have that 25 point a game average that you want, not what the "U" wants, would mean there would be atleast 2-3 10 point games. do the math. What the "U" needs according to your stats is to be loking to average 31 + points per game. That's it 31 measley points per game, we scored 27 in a half last week. This team will be able to do this eventually. We need to try and embarass teams, that is what we used to do. This year after the pathetic win over FIU, Lance Legget tells the media," a win is a win, we will take that every time." Not freking good enough! Not the CANES way. Just shows the heart and determination of this bad character team, they are not winners. Not with quotes like that. I remember being disgusted with the score of that game and then to hear our SR wide Reciever make comments like that just gutted me like I hope it guts you and the "U" we need an overhaul and Randy Shannon and Co. they know and realize this, give us a few years and we will be actually, SRONGER THAN EVER!

1 blowout a year? You serious?

We should be blowing out AT LEAST 4 teams per season at an absolute minimum.

This is the U. We're not about mediocrity. We're supposed to have the game won before the ball's even been kicked off. It's all about the U baby.

Manny is right. In the past I used to watch Miami football just to watch how bad they were going to beat somebody. There was no question in my that they would win. But there I was in the stands late in the 4th quarter hoping they hold on and beat a Duke team that has basically won 3 games in the last three years. Comprehend that hoping to win against DUKE. I know that's not Randy Shannon's fault. He only has two scholarship QB's on the team and neither one of them can do the job. Remember WR Ryan Moore? He caught 44 passes as a freshman. He was suppose to be the next great Miami WR. He only caught 49 passes for the rest of his career! Amazing. You can parellel this with the downfall of the program. Coker's players never improved. They were just on the team, hanging out with no accountablilty. Randy is in the process of changing that, just give him time.


I would like you to comment on the parallel between the U and FSU's program. Watching them loose to Wake was so painful to watch because it reminded me of how we look. How do you pull your QB, Lee, out for one series in the fourth quarter, put in Weatherford, who is equivalent to Freeman, then put Lee back in?

I have to tell you, it really made me respect Coach Shannon for not pulling KW against UNC, even though he could not get it going. I think that confidence will pay off in another close game later on this season because KW will know he is the guy.

damn straight, nice take JC...

keep those kids home, get the ones that love this team and this city... then pepper in a few choice out of staters (take K2, dude BLEEDS orange and green) and call it a day.

Georgia Tech will beat Miami
By Tony Barnhart | Friday, October 12, 2007, 09:03 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Let's be realistic. Kirby Freeman is the odds on favorite to get the starting nod next year. Even if Marve or Harris play you can expect them to struggle too as most QBs with no game experience would. Offensively we may actually regress some next year. Is it therefore realistic to expect the Canes to be competing for a National Championship in 2 seasons? I don't think so. Not unless our O-Line miraculously starts looking like the '01 title team. In my opinion it won't be until year four of the Shannon regime that we're are mentioned as possible National Championship contenders. This is all about patience..patience..patience. No doubt Miami has a great tradition and therefore high expectations from the fan base but unfortunately I believe the quick success of the Gators has left many Canes fans even more impatient. There is jealousy their that few if any will admit.

C$ I don't know what are you talking about, cause if i'm not mistaken that skinny guy named Ken Dorsey that had only 1 loss in his career as a UM QB (no!! the Fiesta bowl lost doesn't count we won that game, regardless of what you saw), anyways the only adjustment that i think the U needs is in getting a better Defensive coordinator, because By Shannon Letting his coaches do their job, he has been taking back that job twice this year from his Def. Coordinator

Kyle is at least improving overall under Nix. The UNC game was probably his worst and his best. He'd never come back from behind but he'd never thrown so many horrible INTs.

I say Nix is worth at least 2TDs and 2 fewer picks, and a sack or two less.

The biggest thing, however, that I think developed as a result of the UNC game was the mental toughness these kids showed in the 2nd half, even though they didn't finish the deal.

Hopefully, and I'm not a fan of Hope, but hopefully they'll carry that same focus and hunger throughout the game.

It's good that this game is at the OB. On the road, I don't think they'd be ready.

C$, Kirby doesn't stand a chance against Marve or Harris. He'll be 2nd string, maybe 3rd. I love his loyalty and enthusiasm but when the ball snaps enthusiasm doesn't mean much.

Whos' the only freshman QB, RS-Freshman at that, to lead his team to a NC???

Whos' the only freshman QB, RS-Freshman at that, to lead his team to a NC???

Bernie Kosar?

Kirby doesn't stand a chance against Marve or Freeman? Me thinks you're in for a rude awakening, son.

whoops..Marve or Harris.

What has "ail'ed" the U since our last championship ('02, we won that game despite...)is quarterback play. We have not had a kid mentally tough enough to play there since Kenny Dorsey. Kenny, despite his athletic deficit's, was a 'gamer'. Hopefully Bobby Marve can bring that back next year. GO CANES!

Hey guys, I was just throwing out some minimum standards. If you buy into the parity thing, you aren't going to get four to five 45-3 scores a year. And I don't think even if you look back at Miami's national title teams that taking every opponent behind the woodshed was necessary. Everyone likes to forget the 2001 team had very close games against Boston College and Va Tech. I was there for the 59-0 and 65-7 wins over ranked Syracuse and Washington, but it's not always gonna be that way. Trust me, I'm all for 12 blowouts a year and an offense that averages 50 points a game. I just don't think we're gonna have that in two years. It's a question of expectations.

Like I said, if we average at LEAST 25 (I like the 31 point target, that's why I mentioned it) I don't see many losses. And I hate 10 point games and 17 point games, but sometimes you face an elite defense and that's the outcome. Wide Right II final was 19-16, wasn't it? We beat OU for the title 20-14 didn't we? Defensive struggles will happen. They just shouldn't happen against Duke and Houston. That's what makes me sick and I hope this recruiting class can make those results a thing of the past.

It's officially Gameday! Go Canes!

Let's be realistic. Kirby Freeman is the to get the starting nod next year.

Posted by: C$ | October 12, 2007 at 05:26 PM review oklahoma Q1 to diabuse you of that notion. with the arrival of Robert Marve, Taylor Cook, Jacory Harris & perhaps Cannon Smith (son of FedEx founder Fred Smith), Kirby Freeman's the odds-on favorite to ride the pine. these AIN'T Coker's Canes ... ability trumps seniority

(typo 1) Let's be realistic. Kirby Freeman is the odds on favorite to get the starting nod next year. Posted by: C$ | October 12, 2007 at 05:26 PM; (typo 2) disabuse

I believe the quick success of the Gators has left many Canes fans even more impatient. There is jealousy their that few if any will admit.

Posted by: C$ | October 12, 2007 at 05:26 PM since 2001, the grimy gaturd has lost 21 games. was 2006 an anomaly?

I have a noon TEE Time...
I can't take these Nooners with the Canes. They sleep walk through the first 1/2.
This GT team is much better than UNC even though they're 3-3.
GT will gash Miami's D line.
KW will be running for his life and make several poor decisions and give GT field position. The fans will boo KW and his father will have another meltdown. This will be ugly.
Nix gets hosed by his old boss and Randy gets schooled again by a much more experienced and savvy coach.
GT 31 UM Wannabees 17.

We have more talent on our roster than anyone in the ACC, the problem is our O.F. coordinators look like there calling plays for retards.The one-back offense didn't work when Erickson was here and it ain't working now.The difference back then was at least we could pass, we can't do either now. We have a good O-line and our running backs are above average but our wide-outs stink. We have no go to guy. All the speed in the world doesn't matter if you can't catch or the Q.B. can't get the ball to you. I say we need to play Marve now, get rid of Nix as our O-coordinator, and Shannon needs to be his own D-coordinator. These d.b.'s we are going against each week are not all-americans but we are helping look that way, with this lousy play calling. Miami couldn't beat the sisters of the poor right now.

Kyle Wright is terrible please put Kirby in and let him run with the ball!

I feel like every year since our last national championship the offensive line play and talent there has declined and that that is alot of the offenses problem. If Kyle worked behind the line Dorsey did throughout his time at the U he would have rediculous numbers. I think the athletes are here we just need time to get the ball to them. We need some hogs who are ready nowwwwww!

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