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Game day blog: N.C. State 19, UM 16 (OT)

Checking in from the OB where today as usual I'll blog live throughout the UM-N.C. State game. I'll share notes, thoughts as the game moves along and then recap later tonight with what I collect from the lockerroom. U do what U always do ... share your thoughts.

** Kirby Freeman got the start for UM. Guess my source knew what he was talking about. But don't be surprised if you see Kyle Wright come in at some point if things get really bad.

** There were a few pregame festivities including a tribute to the 1987 National Championship before the game. I saw Steve Walsh and Michael Irvin among others in attendance. Walsh even played a little catch with freshman quarterback Robert Marve. Too bad there is only about 34,621 people at the OB to soak it in.

** I didn't give a pregame prediction, but I'll do one now after the teams went 3-and-out on their first series. I think the Canes win 20-10.

** I know the game is on ESPNU and many of you don't have it. But for those of you who would like to listen to the game, WQAM (wqam.com) is broadcasting it on about an eight second delay.

SECOND HALF
FOURTH QUARTER...
NCST DRIVE (1st and 10 at NCST 20)
- After a first down run, N.C. State picks up 55 yards and moves to the UM 13 with :20 left in the quarter when quarterback Daniel Evans finds Darrell Blackman open down the middle of the field. Kenny Phillips eventually pushed him out bounds.
- So we'll go to the fourth quarter like we've done too often this season -- sweating and holding our breath.
- On 3rd down and 11, Evans lofts a pass to Darrell Davis that is well defended by Kenny Phillips. N.C. State then pulls back to within three when kicker Steven Hauschka connects on a 31-yard field goal from the same spot where Daren Daly made it 13-7. Drive: 7 plays, 68 yards, 1:58. UM 13, N.C. State 10.

UM DRIVE (1st and 10 at UM 20)
- Just saw this stat that blew me away. Canes have one completion -- that 84-yarder to Jenkins. Freeman is 1 of 10 with 2 interceptions. Miami eventually punts, Bosher gets off a 54-yarder, and Colin McCarthy comes through with a nice tackle to push Blackman out at the 36.

NCST (1st and 10 at NCST 36, 13:12 left)
- On first down, Euguen picks up 3 yards. Eugene eventually picks up a first down on third and short, moving the ball to the UM 47.
- Not that this is a shock, but the Canes defense is going to have to win this thing.
- After N.C. State moves inside the Canes' 30, Kenny Phillips comes through with a key tackle to stall the drive. Another Hauscka field goal -- this one from 35 yards -- ties the score at 13. UM 13, N.C. STATE 13.

UM (1st and 10 at the UM 20, 10:00)
- Following a five-yard penalty, James picks up 14 yards on a run off tackle on first down. On second down, Chris Rutledge is flagged for a false start. On the next play, Javarris James rumbles for a 10-yard gain up the middle and a first down.
- On first and 10 at the UM 34, James gets cut down for no gain. Looks like the Canes are content to run behind Derrick Morse.
- Well forget that. Kirby Freeman gets intercepted by Jeremy Gray on another horrible pass. Kirby got pressured and looked like he was going to throw it away. Gray standing on the sideline and basically minding his own business. Just caught the ball and stepped out of bounds with 7:36 left. CANES ARE IN TROUBLE...

And I'm going down to the field. Enjoy the rest of the game. Or try to.

THIRD QUARTER...
Missed the first half of the third quarter because I was doing an important halftime interview. Thankfully, I didn't miss much. The Canes just missed a 41-yard field goal with 4:28 left in the quarter. I'll continue from here...

NCST DRIVE (1st and 10 at the NCST 24, 4:28)
- On first down, Evans throws a pass short to his receiver. On second down, John Dunlap drops an easy completion bringing up 3rd an 10.

UM DRIVE (1st and 10 at the UM 39, 3:40)
- It looked like another drive that was going to end in nothing. Then, Darnell Jenkins turned on the jets. He picked up 39 yards, running away from 2 guys to get down to the N.C. State 18. Then, when things look bad again -- there's that man -- Darnell Jenkins pulling in what looks like an amazing touchdown catch in the corner of the end zone. Was he in? The replay screen at the Orange Bowl shows... what replay screen?
- After further review... incomplete. Bah humbug. Canes will have to kick another field goal from 33-yards out and this time it goes through with 1:07 left. Daren Daly is now 2 of 3 in the game. Drive: 7 plays, 45 yards, 2:33. UM 13, N.C. STATE 7.

FIRST HALF
FIRST QUARTER...
UM 1st Drive (1st and 10 at UM 26)
- Things didn't exactly go right on that first series. After Javarris James lost 12 yards on first down, there was a bad snap and bad pass by Freeman on what looked like a designed screen. Yikes.

NCST 1st Drive (1st and 10 at the NCST 41)
- After the Wolfpack get five yards on the ground on first down, safety Kenny Phillips and linebacker Colin McCarthy do a nice job on pass coverage to force the Wolfpack to punt.

UM 2nd Drive (1st and 10 at the UM 11, 12:02 left)
- On first down, Javarris looks good picking up 11 yards on a toss sweep. This one looked better than the first one. On the next play, though, James drops a screen pass. Eventually Miami is forced to punt when Freeman overthrows Dajleon Farr downfield. He was covered.
- Kyle Wright anyone?

NCST 2nd Drive (1st and 10 at the NCST 48)
- On first down, N.C. State picks up two on the ground with Jamelle Eugene. On next play he picks up five more to bring up a 3rd and 3. On third down, Eugene gets hit in the backfield by Colin McCarthy and Courtney Harris in the backfield for a loss.
- So far, UM's defense has done what it has supposed to do. The question now becomes can Miami's offense do anything with Freeman under center. Two of his first three passes have looked awful. The UM running game is going to have to win this game.

UM 3rd Drive (1st and 10 at the UM 15, 8:46 left)
- Wow, Derron Thomas makes an appearance in the backfield. Heard earlier this week that Graig Cooper had a pinkey injury, but Shannon said it wasn't serious. Wondering if Randy Shannon put him in the game because he's hungry.
- So far he looks like a genious. That was an amazing 54-yard run by Thomas, who zig-zagged his way through the N.C. State defense. UM is on the N.C. State 22.
- Javarris James comes back in and takes a sweep inside to the N.C. State 6 before Derron Thomas comes back in on first and goal.
- On the next play, Thomas picks up 2. After all that -- including a Kirby Freeman bizarre scramble and incompletion on third down, the Canes attempt a 22-yard field goal made by Daren Daly to take a 3-0 lead with 4:56 left. Drive: 9 plays, 80 yards, 3:50. UM 3, N.C. STATE 0.
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By the way, Joel Figueroa was in at left guard that entire drive. Figueroa, a sophomore, has been doing really well in practice according to coach Jeff Stoutland.

NCST 3rd Drive (1st and 10 at NCST 31, 4:48)
- Another Wolfpack series begins with short gains on first and second down. On third and 1, N.C. State picks up a first down on a nice pass completion. But it's called back on an ineligible man downfield penalty. After another penalty on third down, N.C. Statequarterback Daniel Evans gets sacked by Colin McCarthy.
- Another nice series for the Canes defense. But N.C. State keeps shooting itself in the foot. Four penalties on third down so far. UM will get nice field position.

UM 4th Drive (1st and 10 at the UM 40)
- Just figured out why Derron Thomas was in the game. Looks like Shawnbrey McNeal didn't dress to play. Not sure why. Eric Moncur is also not dressed and playing in the game. I'll have to find out why afterward.
- UM's drive meanwhile, fizzled and ended with an ugly Kirby Freeman interception. The pass was way overthrown and the N.C. State safety just fielded it like a punt at the N.C. State 20.

2nd QUARTER...
N.C. State 4th Drive (1st and 10 at the NCST 38)
- The Wolfpack pick up a first down on a 5-yard completion to John Dunlap. END OF THE 1st QUARTER
- On the first play of the second quarter Colin McCarthy comes through with another big play when he tackles a N.C. State running back for an 8-yard loss on a swing pass. Nice play.
- On third and 18, Evans is pressured and his pass to Marcus Stone is incomplete.
- It's been an ugly offensive game so far, except for that Derron Thomas run.

UM 5th Drive (1st and 10 at the UM 14)
- Wow. I was half-way kidding when I talked about using the direct snap. But apparently Freeman isn't doing the job. Darnell Jenkins took the first two direct snaps and has lost 12 yards. On third down, sanity returns. Graig Cooper picks up 14 yards. But UM is forced to punt. Cooper by the way, passed Frank Gore for third on the all-time list for true freshman on that carry, his first of the game.

N.C. State 5th Drive (1st and 10 at the N.C. State 38, 12:09 left)
- Before the Wolfpack get started. Sebastian gets the crowd hyped with his rendition of the Soulja Boy dance in front of the west end zone.
- On first down, Glenn Sharpe has an interception go through his hands. All I got to say is Canes fans ought to thank their lucky stars N.C. State is horrible.
- On third and 16, Evans picks up the first down with his legs to keep the Wolfpack drive alive. Safety Kenny Phillips nearly got there in time to stop him though.
- After another NC. State third down completion, the Wolfpack kill themselves with another penalty -- this one holding.
- On 2nd and 15, Kenny Phillips misses a tackle in the middle of the field and tight end Marcus Stone picks up 26 yards down to the UM 19.
- Meanwhile on the sideline, Kirby Freeman and Kyle Wright are playing catch. Not sure if that's a sign Wright might be warming up to get into the game.
- After N.C. State moved to within the UM 12, a third down pass is incomplete, bringing on a field goal attempt that is missed wide left by Steven Hauschka. UM catches a break and still leads 3-0.

UM's 6th Drive (1st and 10 at the UM 20, 6:37)
- On first down, Cooper runs up the middle for a 6-yard gain. After another big loss on second down, Kirby Freeman finds a wide open -- and I mide wide open -- Darnell Jenkins downfield for an 84-yard touchdown pass. That's another big play for Darnell, who caught the ball at about the 40 and beat the N.C. State safety to the end zone. Drive: 3 plays, 80 yards, 1:22. UM 10, N.C. STATE 0.
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UM has outscored its opponents at the OB 81-0 in the first half. And that touchdown came at a good time. The defense looks like its starting to get tired.

N.C. State 6th Drive (1st and 10 at the N.C. State 34)
- On first down, N.C. State loses two yards on a run. How did N.C. State beat Virginia again?
- On second down, Darrell Blackman gets open, beating Colin McCarthy on what looked like that same little play FSU used with Preston Parker to move the ball on the Canes. He picked up 14 yards and a first down
- On the next play, Eugene spins past UM's defense for a gain of 21. They're down to the UM 32.
- On first down, Eugene catches a short pass out of the backfield -- once again in the middle of the field -- and picks up 6 yards. The Wolfpack keep exposing the middle of the field. The Canes will have to make an adjustment.
- On third and 3, Hollywood Chaminade's John Dunlap picks up another first down with a catch over the middle.
- On second down, Owen Spencer catches another ball over the middle and sneaks past the UM defense into the end zone with 2:21 left. The play is being reviewed. And its overturned. Now N.C State has a first and goal at the 1-foot line.
- Daniel Evans ends up scoring on the next play anyway on a sneak with 2:04 left. Drive: 9 plays, 66 yards, 3:11. UM 10, N.C. STATE 7.

UM 7th Drive (1st and 10 at the UM 20, 2:04)
- On first and 10, Derron Thomas gets stuffed at the line for no gain. On the next play, Thomas gets stuffed at the line again. UM fans are booing the play calling.
- On third down, Freeman lofts a jump ball downfield to Leggett that falls incomplete. But Leggett is whistled for offensive pass interference. Miami is forced to punt. Matt Bosher then gets off a 56-yard punt. N.C. State is probably going to take a knee with :10 left.

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Whatever "Play with the Freshwomen"... Go back to canespace where you belong!

What part of the statement "BOTH KYLE WRIGHT AND KIRBY FREEMAN HAD NO BUSINESS PLAYING D-1 BALL!" DO SOME OF U IDIOTS NOT UNDERSTAND? First U blamed the o-line, then the wr's, then lack of talent, and now the first year head coach and oc who had no idea their star pupil would be lost for the season in a car wreck! Why don't U place the blame where it should be, ON KYLE WRIGHT AND KIRBY FREEMAN, WORST QB TANDEM IN UM HISTORY! Everybody wants to blame Shannon and Nix but they can only work with what they have, which is absolutely nothing at qb. U want me to beleive that teams like Kansas, B.C, Usf and Uconn have more talent than the U? But I will tell u what they all do have, and that is a reliable and consistant qb! Everybody in the top 25 has one! Hell, everbody in the country has one except us! And anybody that says Shannon can't recruit or coach obviously does'nt keep up with the NFL or they are just plain stupid! MARK MY WORDS, SHANNON WILL TURN THINGS AROUND, AS SOON AS HE GETS RID OF THE KYLE WRIGHTS AND KIRBY FREEMANS AND START BRINGING IN THE JACORY HARRIS'S , SANCHO MCDONALDS AND STAR JACKSONS!

I think it's becoming rather obvious that Kirby nor Kyle are the players they thought they were when they recruited them. Nix and Shannon know this and are trying devise a game plan where they can't really hurt us. This is why we run the ball so much and look vanilla on offense. They just don't have any confidence in either one of these guys. We still have three games left. Maybe
some miracle will happen. At this point, I'd take 7 wins and any bowl game.
On a side note. I don't like our uniforms this year. I think we should go old school next year. Oh by the way...Marve...kid has some issues. How do we not know this before he gets here?

are some of you racist? did you question Coach Shannon's "mental capacity" after beating f$u? did you question Larry Coker's "mental capacity" after losing 6 in '06? let me remind you, U almost won with a QB throwing like a girl ...

Kirby rag arm should've thrown only when necessary ... rushing = no incompletions or interceptions

IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO ONE THING AND THIS GOES FOR BOTH THE DOLPHINS AND HURRICANES:

IF AN ORGANIZATION SLACKS OFF ON RECRUITING, BRINGING IN TALENT, CONSTANTLY EVALUATING, CONSTANTLY THINKING OF HOW TO MAKE THE TEAM BETTER, I AM TALKING ABOUT REALLY DOING YOUR JOB, GRINDING IT OUT 24/7! THIS IS THE PRODUCT YOU SEE OUT ON THE FIELD.

LAZY COACHES BRING IN POOR PLAYERS, LAZY RECRUIERS BRING IN POOR PLAYERS, LAZY EVALUATORS BRING IN POOR TALENT.

THE CANES WILL BE FINE NOW BECAUSE THEY NOW HAVE A SYSTEM OF RECRUITING WHERE WITH COKER THEY DIDNT. YOU HAVE TO GO UT AN SEE GUYS, STUDY, PICK THE RIGHT PLAYERS FOR YOUR TEAM AND SYSTEM. AS YOU CAN SEE THE DOLHPINS (IN DRAFTS) AND HURRICANES (IN RECRUITING) HAVE NOT DONE SO FOR ABOUT 4 YEARS.

LAST THOUGHT: WHILE I WAS WATCHING THE GAME AND LISTENING TO LARRY COKER, I COULD NOT HELP BUT THINK HOW THIS GUY FEELS AFTER BRINGING IN 2 OF THE WORST QB'S IN MIAMI HISTORY.

http://www6.miami.edu/campaign/home.html
1) UM is a poor Private schoool.

Posted by: 242 Cane | November 04, 2007 at 09:39 AM false. MOMENTUM: University of Miami's $1B campaign. as of sep 30, $1.338 BILLION had been raised. Money, Money, Money

how dumb are the dolphins for trading WR/PR extraordinaire wes welker? PLAYMAKER

http://790theticket.com/ listen to the Michael Irvin hour 8a-9a ...

the greatest coach in UM history lost 5 games in his 1st season ...

Recruiting---Everyone points to Randy being such a great recruiter...Why...because he finally is getting local kids to stay home...Thats his damn job. I want to see him actually win some battles for kids that are out of his recruiting area....I dont see this happening

Posted by: notindenialcane | November 04, 2007 at 08:02 AM in denial ... Ramon Buchanan (palm bay), Lerentee McCray (dunnellon), probably Matt Patchan (seffner)

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2007/11/play-it-again-s.html
shun(del): "I'm sure most of you noticed Sam Shields was on the bench for most of the game. He only played two snaps, the passes Kirby Freeman threw him in the endzone on the final drive in regulation. Today, coach Randy Shannon revealed what most had expected when he said Shields was benched at least for the first half for practicing poorly." is Coach Shannon too punitive?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI practice, we talking 'bout practice -- allen iverson

pitiful passing ... blame Larry Coker for neglecting to recruit QBs & WRs. MALPRACTICE

http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=123&a=14705
"The Bahama Journal too will play a role in the final UM game in the Orange Bowl. A commemorative section, produced by the Miami Herald will be published in the Journal on Saturday morning."

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/110407aaf.html
ESPN2 to televise our Orange Bowl swan song ... PRAISE JESUS

Sorry but what part of this season has Randy shown any capability of being a good coach....

Lets go down the schedule...

Marshall---The Herd has won a total of 1 game and Kirby Freeman had 80 yards. Canes fans actually thought he played well. DENIAL. Reality came a week later against OU.

OU--Blowout loss---Shannon looked lost on the sideline and so did his team. UM quit in the game.

FIU-Everyteam that has played FIU this year...Not Miami...Randy got outcoached by Mario Cristobal.

North Carolina-27-0 at halftime...Words like we did not come ready to play were uttered out of Shannons mouth...How the hell dont you have a team ready to play.Another loss.

Texas A&M- The Aggies decided to run sideways with a 300 pound running back...great idea...Miami wins

Georgia Tech--Shannon gets outcoached in the 2nd half...They lose

FSU--The noles coaches decided not to go after Kirby Freeman...Big mistake as he hit three miracle passes and Miami wins. No one ever brings up the fact that going into the 4th quarter Miami's offense stunk.

NC State---Another loss to a team that had a losing record...Shannon outcoached again.

Guys, reality is Miami lost to two teams they had no bussiness losing to (NC State and NC)...That is coaching. Blame coker all you want but those two losses fall on Shannons head.

To those that think that Randy is not the problem...WTFU. Some of you do realize he was part of Cokers staff. You act like Shannon came from another staff. In three years when Miami still stinks there will be those still blaming coker. It wont matter because the program will fall flat on its face.

You act like Shannon came from another staff.

Posted by: notindenialcane | November 05, 2007 at 10:30 AM in denial ... Larry Coker hired Coach Shannon from the Miami dolphins.

Notindenialcane,

Do me a favor and everyone else a favor. Come back in three years with those comments about Shannon. Right now I don't care how you put it, how right you might think you are and whatever stats you wanna pull out of your a*$! There is no way in the world you can say that Shannon is not a good coach just 9 games into his first head coaching gig. If you were that good of an evaluator you wouldn't be spending all damn day on this blog working at whatever job it is you have and not working for a football organization.

You shared your opinion a while back ago. That's great...but stop trying to defend a point that we really have no clue how it's going to turn out.

With that said...I hope to see every single one of you guys at the game on Saturday to support this team in it's final game at the Orange Bowl.

Peace!

YO GREEN OR MANNY,

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Hey notindenialcane,

So let me get this straight. Canes win because the other team either sucks, or whose HC and co. are terrible. Canes lose and it's all RS's fault.

Got it. RS sucks. Thanks for playing.

No Team would win when the QB is 1 for 14 with 3 int I don't care what team it is.

Reassessing the coaching staff as so many are one way or the other. Likes, the discipline and conditioning, love that the U badly needed big improvement there.
Competition for positions, gotta like it , worked for J johnson. Do not like the seeming confusion on a lot of defensive plays and the lack of defensive aggression, although players are running pretty good to the ball. Offensive line gotta like the improvement there , big gains there. Running backs doing fine there. So most of it still comes down to Qtback play gotta hate it. what coach could win with that.

Kirby Freeman needs to go back to Texas and get a job, and forgert that he ever set foot here. Kirby- You are an effen loser. You didn't evn try to getbetter and you duped all of us into thinking youeven cared and that you were goingto get better. Instead either you effen threw these games on purpose, or you really really suck. You are no athlete, no qb, so gohome and quit making us suffer and spend aour money for nothing.

I just spent over an hour reading all of these post and this is what I can make of it.

The Gator fans on here are horrible. All you guys can do is talk hypotheticals. The last team you beat us was in 1983. (year after I was born.) If you remember in 83 MIAMI put on its first ring.

No one really knows where to put blame. Everyone has a different idea. All I have to say on this is it is real hard to judge RS when he is working with two horrible QB's. This Saturday it was like our offense was playing with 10 while NCS got 12 on D. We should of just pulled what happend in the VT GT game and let Kirby ware the other teams jersey.

Recruiting: Was pathetic for the three prior years before RS. in a short recruiting period last year he pulled together a top 10 class that included a highly touted QB. This year it is in the top 10 again so far. I dont know what other stats you look at but Id say he is doing a good job there.

GIve RS some time. If youd like you can put the lynch mob (no point intended) together in 3 years if it hasnt turned around.

Take a lesson from ND on this one don't fire your black head coach after one year. Look at where Washigton is now vs. where ND is. Give the man some time.

GO CANES
We'll miss you OB (Thanks for the Memories)
see you all next Saturday. (If any one actually comes to the game this week.)

Canes Fan
(Section 31 row 2 seat 21)

HALELUJA!!!!

There are intelligent CANES fans here who KNOW how football programs work!

I'm with you guys:

Savitza
Bob
Cane Since 1982
Jaime
dlu
Canester-Nip

...and anyone else i didn't mention for understanding that RS is just starting for god-sakes...

Just look at Notre Dame--> probably the RICHEST f*cking program in the country with offensive specialist Charlie Weis running the show, the nicest player's gym/locker rooms in the USA, they get to pick the "cream of the crop" recruits and their record is....1-8!!!!

You think it's Charlie Weis' fault? Or maybe his previous coach also could'nt recruit worth a damn? And has left him with a rebuilding project for the next 2-3 years...

OUR WEAKEST LINKS ON THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW:

1) Quarterback

2) Kickers

(#3 was going to be the Punter- Bosher, but he's stepped up his game so he deserves to come off this "lame list")

But you gotta be happy with the progress everywhere else:

1) Defense-- lot's of injuries to KEY players, yet they kept scores within range for a win. They took their stomping like men at the OU game, and have started to show signs that they can fly to the ball. ALSO IMPORTANT-- there are very few STUPID penalties on Defense this year... Remember how OFTEN Defense got flagged under Coker???

2) Offensive LINE!! HOLY SH*T it's a big difference now compared to Coker's time... O-line used to get flagged every other play for holding and movement. And look at the RUNNING!! Cooper is kicking #SS for a reason...because the O-line is openning holes for him. 315yards running game against ANY team is an AMAZING accomplishment!!!

3) Kicking game: There's a legit battle now between the kickers that will only make them better. My guess is that Daly has the "heart" to be a great one. But remember this Irish kid grew up playing soccer in highschool. So give him time and he should be our guy. And BOSHER i already mentioned has made a RAPID improvement to his punts in only a few games... from 37yrd average to an average of 47yrds now after 3 games.

4) Recievers: Still a question mark outside of Jenkins. But you gotta be excited about Farquason, Shields, McKenzie for the future. And who knows what will happen to the new Freshmen..

5) Tight Ends: Big drop-off here, but this position is DEPENDENT ON THE QB!! So we really don't know yet how GOOD OR BAD Tight-Ends are right now until we have QB's good enough to go to them..

But, if they've been contributing to throwing the blocks that are springing the running game, then they've performed at least 50% of their job so far.

6) Running Game: THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT

7) Special teams: Shaky but improving. We need a home-run kick returner, and we need our Defensive guys to break through for some blocked kicks and punts...

8) RECRUITING: Someone else already mentioned it repeatedly-- but we are a top 10 or Top 5 recruiting class (depends on who you listen to)

This is SHANNON'S FIRST opportunity to show what he can do. And the truth will reveal itself in time-- like 2009. NOT RIGHT NOW you RS bashers!!

So there is my team break down. Let's spend our time talking about PROGRESS and ideas for IMPROVEMENT rather than the stupid conversations about who sucks...

Because if anyone wants to diss on my CANES, then take yourself to a FSU or UF blog and bitch about it to them....

...because you ain't no REAL CANES fan.


AND IT WILL STILL TAKE TO 2009 before we should realistically expect a 9-2 or 10-1 team....

AND SPEAKING OF UF AND FSU FANS:

Over the years of going to school at UM, i've jawed and talked footabll to lots of UF and FSU fans and something is VERY CLEAR to me...

THEY ARE REAL FANS of their teams...

When THEY lose games, you don't hear them personally attacking the players or coaches...

...they are more likely to sympathize for the team, stand behind them, and hope for a better showing the next game...

Go to any FSU or UF blog and spend time there and you'll see what i am talking about...

They are die-hard fans who emotionally LOVE their team... like many of the CANES fans here do.

But unfortunately, i believe we have TOO MANY people in S. Florida here who are "WINNING TEAM FANS"...meaning they only root for you when you win.

But the moment the team stumbles, they might as well be your worst enemy...

I saw and heard what some of these people said to Kyle Wright's family in the OB last year...it was shameful..

It's crap like that that will keep great recruits and coaches away from our program...and there were plenty of recruits on the sidelines last year when KW's father was being cursed out by these guys...

These are the fans who only show up at the OB when the team is winnig big--and even then, i remember many games when Canes were #1, and the OB was mostly empty when we played weak teams..

Do you realize that practically every home game at FSU and UF is packed no matter who they play? Because they just LOVE seeing their team play...no matter what.

That's where UF and FSU have us beat cold-- "The 12th Man"

pacificane a lot of what you say is bs period, fsu ran the son out of town and posted for sale signs on their coach's lawn after his long career so do not give me how great fsu and fla fans are and the U's fans suck are you for real.

YO GREEN OR MANNY,

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Posted by: Canester-Nip | November 05, 2007 at 12:29 PM scout sells dreams ... pipe dreams. PJ enrolls jan 7, 2008.

Canes suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Miami Gardens Hurricanes | November 03, 2007 at 04:00 PM you envy our name: University of Miami

Have fun playing in the dirt at the
county line stadium.

Posted by: Miami Gardens Hurricanes | November 03, 2007 at 04:00 PM a world-class university deserves a world-class stadium ... CAN'T WAIT

Randy is not a very good coach....Those waiting for him to become a good coach will wait for hell to freeze over. The guy blames his players. That says it all right there.

Last time I checked Shannon picked Freeman to be his starting qb against Marshall. That decision alone already shows you how bad he is.

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