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Kirby Freeman leaving UM

We've wondered if he would return. Now, we know he won't. Kirby Freeman has asked the University of Miami for a release from scholarship, which means the Hurricanes will not have a veteran arm on its roster next season.

Freeman hasn't had the type of career he envisioned when he came to UM. His career numbers are ugly: 92 completions on 197 attempts, 1,311 yards, 12 touchdowns, 16 interceptions. But he'll always have that memorable game-winning drive against FSU.

I know freshman Robert Marve and Miami Northwestern High's Jacory Harris were expected to compete for the starting job anyway. But how do you feel about not having a veteran to turn to just in case?

I've been working this story for a few days and finally got the confirmation on it this afternoon. Susan Miller Degnan and Barry Jackson chipped in too. I'll have more thoughts for you later. But I figured I'd leave you a forum to pour your thoughts out.

As for Freeman, I'm hearing he could end up at Baylor, which isn't that far from his hometown of Brownwood, Texas. Freeman graduated from UM in May and has one year of eligibility remaining. But according to NCAA transfer rules, if he transfers to a Division I program he is supposed to sit out. The rule shifted for a short time last year to allow seniors who had already graduated to not have sit out the mandatory one year time frame. But the NCAA quickly went back to its old rules last January...

UPDATE... I spoke to the NCAA. Freeman would need a waiver to go to Baylor and be eligible. Getting a waiver is not easy. 

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242 - Where are you getting those figures from? 80% of the fanbase? You mean 80% of the people who bitch and moan online and feel like they are owed something because they own a UM jersey? Check those numbers again, because in attendance, on average 50% of those who attend UM football games are either family, students, or alums of the U (this also reflects the fact that our average attendance hovers around 40k per year). No one cares what kind of fan you are, but this isn't a professional sport where guys have no allegiance to teams, this is a university, and Kirby, for better or worse, is a Hurricane for life.

Critique his play all you want, the season is over and he made a career decision. A TRUE FAN WILL WISH HIM LUCK.

LAcane - The same goes for you, I don't care what kind of fan you are, the season is over and Kirby is leaving because he is in a terrible situation. He is highly competitive and basically handing over his last year of eligibility to a bunch of kids. No one -- anywhere -- would do different if they were in that situation.
Wish him luck, he always represented the U in a positive fashion and competed to the best of HIS abilities. The classy thing to do is to let him leave with dignity, rather than a parade of hate over the internet.

CaneAlum, Did you consider yourself a Hurricane before U attended Miami?
What makes U think that statement U made has any validity? Who are you and did U recieve some sort facsimlie from the football gods on prereq. to being a fan. When a non-alumnus buys a 60 dollar jersey 20 dollar hat purchases a ticket or takes time to sit down and watch or conversate about the U you think the people who recieves the proceeds from our purchases are judging us as nonalumnus. They could care less what we are as long as we are supporting the U. Their opinion I think of your statement would be considered an offense, since a lot of revenue comes in from merchandise purchased buy non-alumnus. Telling people they cant be a fan of the U Ha! Some of these people that read that garbage U speak have been canes fan longer than our National title Resume! You sound like SMEAGLE, "Its My Precious and they stoles it from me", Filthy Non-alumnus! Ha!
You sound so silly!

who cares if we won't have a veteran quaterback for next year, Freeman would've been a third stringer anyways.

Robert you think you are tough b/c youre from miami, I grew up in the 305 and you are nothingbut a punk ass wanna be blogger who is probably a f---gott who all he does is sit behind a computer. True cane fans are what they are. Kirby Freeman sucked. kenny Kelly sucked. Kyle wright sucked you call yourself a cane fan you are a disgrace and a punk and probably an instigating gayturd fan, or worse yet an FIU grad. I will meet you tomorrow, in fron of the OB, by the se entrance at 9pm MF and I will rip your tongue out and shove it out your throat you stoopid little insect. You know nothing about being a cane fan. Besides, who cares. You probably know nothing about the canes period. Tell me, how many UM players are on NFL rosters? Who was the QB when UMbeat Texas in the Cotton Bowl? What UM player was caught from behind against alabama in the sugar bowl? What schoool has as many national champpionships as UM in the last 30 years? See you dont knoe you beeothc. Yeah thats right you are my beeotch.

Fellow Canesters, don't pay any attention to most of these imposters that claimed they went to the U. For all we know some of these so-called UM graduates could be 16-17 year old kids who are blogging on to stir the pot while their porn is being downloaded!

Never thought a mediocre player, based on results, would get this much reaction from the blogmaniacs. Kirby Freeman was not Jim Kelly, Kenny Dorsey or many of the others he would have to be compared to. But, he wasn't chopped liver, either. He did have several OC's he operated under, not the greatest line, non-catching receivers, and most of the talent that COULD have been on the last 2 teams left early. I would like to have seen him finish out, even on the bench. But, let's face it: the page has been turned. Wish him well; he got his degree, he didn't kill anyone and never embarassed the school off the field. Look around the NCAA and count your blessings.

Robert you think you are tough b/c youre from miami, I grew up in the 305 and you are nothingbut a punk ass wanna be blogger who is probably a f---gott who all he does is sit behind a computer. True cane fans are what they are. Kirby Freeman sucked. kenny Kelly sucked. Kyle wright sucked you call yourself a cane fan you are a disgrace and a punk and probably an instigating gayturd fan, or worse yet an FIU grad. I will meet you tomorrow, in fron of the OB, by the se entrance at 9pm MF and I will rip your tongue out and shove it out your throat you stoopid little insect. You know nothing about being a cane fan. Besides, who cares. You probably know nothing about the canes period. Tell me, how many UM players are on NFL rosters? Who was the QB when UMbeat Texas in the Cotton Bowl? What UM player was caught from behind against alabama in the sugar bowl? What schoool has as many national champpionships as UM in the last 30 years? See you dont knoe you beeothc. Yeah thats right you are my beeotch.

Posted by: Jaime | December 29, 2007 at 12:56 AM

I don't think I'm tough because I'm from Miami. I think I'm tough because I'll kick your head in. Try me, cool guy. Try me. Meet me at the basketball game tomorrow if you're a real man. I'll give you my cell and everything.

BTW are you serious with those questions? lol...give me a break. I've forgotten more about the Canes than you know.

cane-ster nip-- you're probably right!

Cane alumn you are as bad as that assh--le robert.

How can you imply that if you didnt go to UM you cant be a UM fan? How stupid is that? When Um filled the OB in the 80s and around 00-01, you are telling me that the 70-80,000 fans were all alumni and current students? hah hah hha ha ha. Funny.
Besides, I've supported UM before you were born, and always will, and I reserve the right, when the admin., coaches, and players do not live up to the EXPECTATIONS to criticize!

expectations are high at UM, and always will be that is how UM got where it is. If highschoolers dont like it, they can go to UF or FSU, UCF or FIU. Even at gayturd land, they creamed their panties when or if they had an 8-5 season because they were in the vaunted SEC and according to them the SEC is soooooo tough. Well, UM played 3 SEC teams when they won the 87 NC. So what. The SEC hardly plays outside. UF was always scared to play UM.


I am a UM fan and always will be and I can criticze slackers, under achievers, over hyped players who come here and either are too scared or lazy to live up to the hype. Kirby you quit UM, so get the hell out and go back to cow land!

What was the excuse that Kirby used when we lost to NC State? He was too nervous? LOOOOOOSer!

Robert I'll be breathing down you bi-tch neck at tomorrow's game and when I creep up on you, I will be wearing a vintage cane hat and I am going to school you in the ways to be a man, boy. Have you seen any Kimbo Slice videos? well, imagine you are one of the punks an I am going to go Kimbo on you. Shut up and go home you girl!

Robert I'll be breathing down you bi-tch neck at tomorrow's game and when I creep up on you, I will be wearing a vintage cane hat and I am going to school you in the ways to be a man, boy. Have you seen any Kimbo Slice videos? well, imagine you are one of the punks an I am going to go Kimbo on you. Shut up and go home you girl!

Posted by: Jaime | December 29, 2007 at 01:16 AM

Look, enough talk and back your sh*t up or shut up. P*ssy.

Robert give me your cell please give me your cell so I can meet you tomorrow or anywhere! I am coming son, and my wrath will be upon you. and all of the anger I've expressed her will be poured out upon you you miserable scum.

Robert give me your cell please give me your cell so I can meet you tomorrow or anywhere! I am coming son, and my wrath will be upon you. and all of the anger I've expressed her will be poured out upon you you miserable scum.

Posted by: Jaime | December 29, 2007 at 01:19 AM

You know what...meet me right now. 137th avenue and Miller. Let's go, bad @ss.

How about you driving up and meeting me behind Piper High School inSunrise you wench?

I cant satnd this funny talk are you that much of a sissy? No I get it now, you are one of them all talk gator fans. And I bet you never stepped foot in the Ob, let alone the streets of Miami, got your b--tch as- is too scared!

How about you driving up and meeting me behind Piper High School inSunrise you wench?

I cant satnd this funny talk are you that much of a sissy? No I get it now, you are one of them all talk gator fans. And I bet you never stepped foot in the Ob, let alone the streets of Miami, got your b--tch as- is too scared!

Posted by: Jaime | December 29, 2007 at 01:31 AM

Yeah I'm real scared of you, p*ssy boy. The difference between me and you is that I will meet you right now. You just finished saying you'd meet me wherever and whenever. I gave you a time and a place and now you're beating around the bush. You are nothing but a f*cking coward. Meet me half way. Tell me a place and I'll be there.

Ok guys..lets remember we all bleed orange and green. Jamie, those are some good questions. Who can forget Randall doin his 6 gun salute at the Cotton bowl (I think we set a record for penalties that day) and does anybody really think Lamar will ever be able to live down gettin caught from behind by Teague. So in an effort to bring this blog in a different direction, Ill ask my fellow blogsters to choose from which they think was the most heartbreaking cane loss in the last 25 years....

A 1987 Fiesta Bowl-Vinny and his INTs
B 1988 @Notre Dame The ground can't cause a fumble
C 1992 Sugar Bowl "Did that just happen Lamar"
D 1994 WASH..we lost at home?? can't happen
E 2002 Fiesta..That motherf!@ng ref

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All of those were pretty horrible, but I've gotta go with D just because losing at the Orange Bowl hardly even made sense at the time.

E is a close second, because of the sheer drama and the fact that we were so close to making it two in a row.

B was bad because any loss to Notre Dame is bad, A was just an embarrassment after the fatigues thing, and C was just stupid.

They were all pretty heartbreaking, though.

It is funny to read all the postings from people that never attended UM. UM is not a football team - it is a University. The football team belongs to the University not to Miami or Dade County or Broward County or the state of Florida. The football players are student athletes that represent the University. As for all the U fans that never attended the U _ I sorry to tell you that watching a game at the OB doesn't make you a Cane. What makes you a Cane is having to study for exams and graduating from the U can receiving a diploma - that's what makes someone a Cane not a stupid fan that may attend football games and wear a U jersey or hat. Get a life and attend the U - if not you are just a poser and Cane wanabee.

Enough with the blog bitch slapping ! Anybody have any recruiting news ? Patchan, Harris, PJ.............ETC ?

UM Graduate
I was the same way thinking like you so arrogant. Like us the Alumni where the only ones that could talk about the school. In my family i am the only one that went to The University of Miami and my brother and father are the biggest U fans and never attended any college but my father(65) lived here his entire life and he will tell you everything there is to know about the school. I dont think us the Alumni should try to pull rank because if it wasn't for the community and the U fans the OB will really be empty. FANS talk SH-T that's what you do but remember that the high school recruits read the post too. Let's talk more about the U and the recruits and stop the violence. UUUUUUUU


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I agree with MO

Something to ponder over.

I'm new to this board and have noticed most of the aggressive and insulting blogs come from only a few people. Maybe those same bloggers are from other schools and trying to stir-up negative reactions.

Recruits and or their family members and or their friends read everything they can concerning the U.

There is no advantage in insulting Kirby, as he leaves but there is everything to gain by keeping this board hateful. Every other school in the country loves what you are doing!!!

To the hateful/disgruntled fan... If you are a FAN, then be a real fan and find something to be positive about and stay on the board, we need your support, not your criticisum and not your anger.


Cat Five Cane

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As posted before.

IMO, The team failed as a unit. Kyle and Kirby both played bad at times and yes, ineffective playing and bad decisions and interceptions all played a part at QB and so did the receivers in dropped balls, OL blocking, and offensive play calling, Penalties inside the RED Zone, Special Teams and starting field position was one of the worst in our history... It's hard to win games when opponents are starting on the 50 yard line and lastly the kicker, How many missed field goals during close games?
I'm sure you would feel alot better with a 8/4 record, as I would, but the team, as a whole, couldn't walk the walk.

No man is a island, The team failed the U.

Good luck Kirby

Cat Five Cane

To all the posters that don't attend UM or recieved a degree from UM, please shut up!!! You have to right to say anything about UM.

Posted by: Cane alum | December 28, 2007 at 09:59 PM
SAYS WHOM

As for all the U fans that never attended the U _ I sorry to tell you that watching a game at the OB doesn't make you a Cane. What makes you a Cane is having to study for exams and graduating from the U can receiving a diploma - that's what makes someone a Cane not a stupid fan that may attend football games and wear a U jersey or hat. Get a life and attend the U - if not you are just a poser and Cane wanabee.

Posted by: UM Graduate | December 29, 2007 at 03:54 AM
SAYS WHOM

I smell gaturd, criminole or gold-plated patsy ... envious of our rabid fan base ...
AGENT PROVOCATEUR

The really important question to ask is does this free up another scholarship this year

Posted by: LAcane | December 28, 2007 at 12:05 AM
ROOM

i now live in brownwood. You see eople around here treat football differently than you people in south florida. We respect the effort and hard work these kids put in day in and day out.

Posted by: karl | December 28, 2007 at 10:22 AM
no medals for trying -- bill parcells

UM GRADUATE,

I totally agree with you about the fact that UM is a university, not a football team. However, THIS IS A UM FOOTBALL BLOG BITCH! SO THE BEST THING FOR YOU TO DO IS FIND A ACADEMIC BLOG U IMPOSTER!

WHATTUP GREEN? MISSED YA HOMIE!

THE NOTORIOUS N.I.P. HAS SPOKEN!

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Manny.... Trying to keep this thread about Football and QB's on a positive and informative nature.

First... thanks for your effort, as this is an up hill battle weeding thru the immature bloggers

We all know who is coming but what of the remaining QB's who are on the 2007 roster. What info do you have about the 3 remaining QB's who are listed as Juniors? Have they left the team or playing in another roll?

I think M Perrilli may have practiced with the team but did not play.

#16- Matt Perrelli, Quarterback, 6-3/240.

#16- Jorge Fernandez, Quarterback, 6-4/215.

#43 - Jake Byrne, Quarterback, 6-4/208.

Last question... who else who was listed on the 07 roster but is not on the roster for 08. Give total list of who's gone and who's staying in 2008, including 5th year seniors, if you can. Thanks

Cat-Five Cane

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frees up a scholarship. bring in the new blood

Awww man, there's already 2 other Canes fans in LA - oh well, I'll stick with 'Big John' since I've been known as that in the Hurricane community since 1995, but always representing the 626.

And yes, I will graduate from the U in 2009 (after 4 summers to finish I might add).

I'd say, the most heartbreaking loss was a tie between the 1987 fiesta bowl when after 4 ints, Vinnie decides to chuckanother one from Penn State's 7 yard line when we are literally about to win our second National Championship. Instead, we had to wait another year.

Similar situation occured in 2000 when because of the idiots of the BCS we were denied playing in the NC against Ok so we had to wait until 2001.

However, I was at the 2002 fiesta when we literally won the nC, and fireworks were going off, the players were on the field and in fact, Ohio State players were actually starting to head towards the lockers when the phantom yellow flag came up. To this day, in slow mo, super slo mo, and from multiple angles provided bu ESPN, and other media outlets and video, THERE IS NO WAY NO HOW AND NO PROBABILITY that Glenn Sharpe should have been flagged. No way. Plus the Luckeyes had to take Willis out for them to have a shot because at that moment, we were actually driving to win the game in the 4th.

For those who continue to apolgize for Kirby and Kyle, yes its a team effort, but go back to 2 years ago when we played GT at home and Kyle decides to throw an int from the redzone. And how many times was he sacked? Answer 7 or 9. How many times in his career did Kyle throw an int from the red zone when the game was on the line? And what about Kirby's demanor in the Oklahoma and NCstae losses this year? That's squarely on the Qbs I'm sorry.

I agree let's now move on-next subject. Who's the new QB?

Did anyone watch the Oregon state game last night? That running back is from Boca. How is it that UM, or FSu couldn't get him? That boy runs north-south and sees and hits holes like hester does. He doesnt run side to side like Cooper,and he doesnt miss the hole and thenputs his head down for a one yerd gain or a loss like baby J.

How is it that UCF has the best rb in the country? Why couldnt we get that stud?
How is it that USF's Matt Grothe is beter by degrees than KW and KF? Is it the sysytem? the O line? or the receivers, or is it just him?

The Sporting News is reporting that Assistant Head Coach / D-line coach, Dan McCarney has interviewed for the D-Coordinator position with Miami. This guy was D-coordinator for Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin and head coach at Iowa State for 12 years. Seems like a great coach if we get him. Plenty of experience and a great recruiter. Another big plus is that he is only making $140,000 this year at USF.

Kirby had his chances. Good luck to him but I'd rather see Marve, Harris, and others start taking over. The QB play for the Hurricanes during the last few years has been a disgrace! We all need to just put our support around Coach Shannon. UM will be back up on top soon! Go Canes 2008.

FAU WILL RISE OVER THE CANES. THE NEW SOUTH FLORIDA POWERHOUSE!!!

21_salute,

I do not care which University you did or did not attend but in the future if you are to talk about a conversation you had please say CONVERSE and not conversate.

Kirby's leaving?? This is the best thing to happen to The U since winning the National Title!!! thanks Kirby!! This is the best thing you've done since being at The U!!! Now if we'd just get rid of Pat Nix too we may have a great year next season. This is GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

To all these Miami students and alumni that think they are real Hurricanes...you're not. Just because your mommy and daddy were able to pay that ridiculous tuition does not make you a Hurricane. It just means that you received your education at the University of Miami. Alot of the people that post here have been following the Hurricanes and have stepped foot on that campus and the OB before you were even born. I'm willing to bet that most of you were not Hurricane fans before you started attending classes there. And out of all the alumni in the country, you should be the LAST ones to open your mouths. You are the most pathetic student body in the country. If it wasn't for the REAL Hurricane fans there would be no one at the games. Look at the pathetic student section in the Orange Bowl and just wait until next year to see how many students turn out to see the Canes play at Joe Robbie. Is there any excuse for the BankUnited Center to not be packed for each and every game? The arena is right on campus. And I won't even touch baseball because you know no students attend those games, eventhough the stadium is on campus and the Hurricanes are a yearly top 10 team.

If you've been a Hurricane from day 1 and support the Hurricanes through thick and thin and live and die with them and truly bleed orange and green...you're a Hurricane. That is the difference between receiving your education at the University of Miami and being a Hurricane.
The students at Miami are there to study and that's it. So you do what you do and leave Hurricane sports to the true Hurricanes.

Go Canes!

UM_graduate,

Congratulations on your six figure piece of sheep skin. Now realize that most people can not come close to being able to afford the 4 year bill of $120,000-$150,000 to attend the University of Miami.

Ok here's a question for my fellow bloggers this morning..has anyone seen the NFL draft forecast for next year? Do we keep our first round streak alive or not?

LACane,

I'm happy to back up Covington but I will never be able to sing the praise of Clement. I will never assume to be even a 1/10th of the talent evaluator of Butch Davis but Covington was a better player than Clement but sat behind him a year or two too many.

Did we really get Julio Jones of Alabama? - The number one HS player. Please let me know. This would be HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

We definitely keep the NFL draft streak alive. Phillips and Campbell - Mid first round for both.

Alright, now I have to speak up. To have all of this nonsense on the entry about Kirby leaving! Who gives a f. Extra scholi. Thank you very much. Good luck to you. Now, to say the alum aren't real canes, that's plain retarded. First, mommy and daddy didn't pay my tuition. I paid through scholarships and student loans. You should try sometime. It's called an investment in your future. It's one of the reasons I'm up here in NYC raking it in. Even if mommy and daddy did pay for someone else, you're just talking out of envy.
As for low attendance, you're right that there is no excuse for people not showing to an on-campus arena to support a 12-0 team forged through heart and hard-work. They are not the most talented team on paper, but they've busted their a**es to get this far and deserve support. We didn't have that in 91-95 when I was there, and I can't believe students don't go now. Back then, I would go to a few games at Miami Arena just to support them even as they sucked. I also agree there was no excuse not to go to the OB as a student. But to call all of us the most pathetic student body. I was a fan since I was in elementary school even though no one in my family was an alum. I can't speak for now, but back in 91-95, you had a choice to get drunk and get laid or watch BB suck. You would have made the same choice (I hope). Attendance is not huge because it's not for any sport in Miami. Too many other things to do (see above). Plus, a lot of us have moved on to other cities to become the successes that UM alumni are. That seems to happen when you pay for that six-figure piece of sheepskin.
Canes forever! Class of '95!

Neuheisel got the ucla job. walker is available!!! shannon-- use some of that cane mojo (and money) and go get him! appears you'll have to beat brother willingham to the punch.

caneinatl

I got love for all Canes fans, whether you went to school there or not. UM is an institution, it belongs to everyone who appreciates the school, athletic teams, alumni, etc. Especially people who live in South Florida.

Yes, I am a UM alumni. One of the reasons I decided to move here and go to the U was the family atmosphere.

Ron Zook is the Coach of the Year???? Whats next, Larry Coker winning the Super Bowl!

Robert for once made a small amt of sense even if he is an idiot.

That's right. UM doesn't belong just to the alumni. I have been a cane fan since some of these young students were even born. Let's see. Today's Um sophomore is 20 at the oldest, whcih means they were born in 1987. Well, kids, By 87 we had won 2 nationsal championships. Have you heard of Zo Highsmith, mel Bratton, or G. Mira Jr? None of you all know the glory that Um brought to the fans. Like I said earlier, there was a time not too long ago, when we'd have 79,000 prople in the OB. NOt all Um alumni or do you think the "rue canes" in the west end zone are alumns? You must be kiddding! Um belongs to all in dade, broward and Pb counties and some around collier and hendry. From Le up itbecomes Uf and FSu country, although many a cane came from up there- Buchanon, JJ, EJ, Morse.

This BS about people who didn't attend the U not being true Canes is ridiculous. I would bet that 85% of the Miami fans who were there 1/1/84 were NOT alums from the university. Instead, they were Miamians who supported the home team. Without that win, none of the rest would have ever happened. So you alums owe the good people of Miami for supporting the team when you did not.

As for Kirby, he was terribly used during his time at UM. People say how can you go 1-14 in a game? I say, remember the game! Three of the first 5 plays in that game were long bombs he threw down the right side of the formation. The first was pass interference that wasn't called, the second was a reciever drop, and the third was a bad throw. Bombs are not high percentage throws.

There were three dropped passes between that and the end of the game. Oh that's right, Kirby is to blame for Lance Leggett playing right? And how about the offensive coordinator? Doesn't he have ANY responsibility to make sure a swing pass or screen is called to keep the quarterback in the game and build confidence?

The play calling sucked that game, and the recievers dropped 4 passes of 14 by my count. But Kirby got thrown under the bus. I am not saying Kirby was a great player, but he was good enough to beat FSU, which none of you bloggers can ever take credit for. It would have been nice if he stayed around in case the freshman choke, and believe me, they will. But after the coaches threw him under the bus as they did, why would he want to stick around?

Mark these words, Nix will be fired for mishandling this thing, unless Jacory bails out Marve when he sucks. Jacory has the talent but its alot to expect a freshman to bail out another freshman. And believe me, these commits are good but the line problems remain. I don't see a Bryant McKinney in these commits. Until the left tackle position is occupied by a stud, the offensive problems will continue.

Matt Patchen is not coming here. If he was, he would have commited by now. So who do you all expect to protect the QB now? I'd feel better if I knew Art Kehoe was developing the line. He is available but certain alumni, similar to the arrogance shown by UM alums on this blog, have put a stop sign on his rejoining the program. Jacory Harris should threaten to not sign until a competent OL coach like Kehoe is chosen.

Just my opinion.

Vacanes fan- your partly right but mostly WRONG!
Those bombs that KF threw against NC state were dead ducks anyway. Bad passes that would never have gotten caught. Teah the play calling stunk, but he was plain bad all year long. Look, e bowl exactly ONE year ago, and even then he threw a horrible int. And against FSU. Somehow after stinking up the doak, he found a way to make a drive, along with Coop and the running game, and we beat the noles. That's it. Don't forget how he played against Oklahoma. He was outplayed badly by a freshman, and if youblame the O-line recall how KW came in and breathed life into the team albeit temporarily.

UM is a funny schoolwhen it comes toathletics. We non-alumni have adopted it to the point that it has become a passion. A fever I tell you. I love my canes. I've gotten into arguments about my canes. I love the past and present players. But alongwith that comes realism, and along with the rest of us, we RESERVE the right to criticize these kids however young they are, if they come in all hyped up, thinking they are all that, and obviously didn't put in the time working their a@@e@ off to be better and to make UM better. I know for a fact Dorsey did that he watched film like crazy, studied his opponents and busted his butt. The last two teams have been soft. They seem poorly conditioned and slow, despite that we have two players that run a 4-3 or better (coop and shields), and others, our team has looked slow, and out of shape. Maybe they're not motivated. That's what I'm talking about criticizing. Youcome here, it;s BIG TIME. If youcan't stand the heat, go enroll att FAU or FIU, or better yet, transfer out and return to Brownwood.

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