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Courtside blog: Wake Forest 70, UM 68 (F)

I'm here in Winston-Salem for tonight's UM-Wake Forest game where the Canes will try to pick up their first ACC road win since Jan. 10 of last year.

As usual, I'll bring you my thoughts and observations throughout the game as time permits. Normally, we're scheduled for a live Q&A from 8 to 9 p.m. every Tuesday tonight. But I'm going to have to hold off on that for obvious reasons. No worries. I'll be handling the recruiting live Q&A from 7 to 8 p.m. Wednesday and will even add an extended hour to make up for the hour we're losing tonight back here on the blog from 8 to 9.

So, please hold off on recruiting questions tonight. Other than the interviews I did with Brandon Harris, Taylor Cook, Tom Lemming, Larry Blustein and a few other conversations I've had with a few high school coaches, I haven't spoken to any kids. I was swamped yesterday doing the Terrell Pryor story and then my UM advance on tonight's game. The good news is, when I get back to Miami tomorrow afternoon I plan on talking to a few players of UM recruiting interest -- Corey Liuget and Tommy Streeter to name a few.

I will share this for now:
* I spoke with Liuget's coach yesterday and I think it appears real likely he's headed elsewhere despite telling a few websites UM is among his top three with Illinois and LSU. His coach told me he thinks Liuget's case to stay home hit a rough spot over the weekend wihen a friend of his was shot and killed at a 7-on-7 flag football tournament. I was told the shooting did not occur during an actual game, but in a parking lot away from the field.
* I also spoke to Jacksonville Trinity Christian's coach, Verlon Dorminey, who told me Jamie Harper intends to visit UM this weekend and he gives Miami as good a chance as any of the other finalists. You can listen to his interview it is up online already.

Alright, it's almost game-time. I've got a few things to do before tip-off. Enjoy the game.

FIRST HALF...
- 15:45 left, UM 7, Wake Forest 5: Got a unique vantage point tonight. I'm right next to the UM bench and behind the basket, about five feet from the floor. Anyway, Jack McClinton made it four three-pointers in a row -- dating back to Sunday -- when he opened the game with a made three. Good to see Jack get off to a good start. That's obviously something he hasn't done enough of lately.
- 10:27 left, UM 14, Wake Forest 10: As UM kept finding a way to turn the ball over, Wake went on a 5-0 run to take a quick 10-9 lead . The Canes answered with a James Dews three-pointer and a nice basket from Dwayne Collins in the post to take a four-point lead again. Turnovers are the story so far for UM. Wake just doesn't look good. They miss a ton of shots and doesn't seem to have a player other than 7-foot center Chris McFarland who can beat someone one-on-one. At least now anyway.
- 7:22 left, UM 20, Wake Forest 20: Wake forward Chris Skeen has killed UM in this stretch, hitting a pair of three-pointers and collecting a steal and dunk. Skeen's last three-pointer answered Jack McClinton's third three-pointer of the game which gave UM a 20-17 lead. Wake started the game 3-of-18 from the field. Dino Gaudio's team is doing a good job of nullifying UM second chances like it wanted to. The Canes have one offensive rebound so far.
- 3:37 left, Wake Forest 26, UM 24: Kyle McFarland, Wake's 7-foot center, was injured in the Clemson game and there was a chance he might miss the game. Unfortunately for the Canes, Wake had a week to rest up. McFarland has definitely caused problems for UM, which can't seem to generate much inside.
- Halftime, UM 34, Wake Forest 34: Haven't see the final numbers yet, but the Canes have to be shooting the ball well. Jack McClinton has 14 points and is 4-of-5 from three-point range. The problem is Wake is just as equally hot from long distance, hitting on 6-of-11 from three-point range in the first half.

SECOND HALF...
- 16:30 left, Wake Forest 46, UM 40:
Note to Canes -- can somebody guard the three-point line? Wake connected on back-to-back three-pointers by Harvey Hale and Jeff Teague to take a six-point lead. Wake is 8-of-13 in the game. Miami can't allow that and expect to win this game.
-12:48 left, Wake Forest 50, UM 46: Wake Forest's 10-0 run put them in front. But this game is starting to get a little more testy than your average ACC game. Jimmy Graham and McFarland drew double technicals after some physical play and jawing.
- 7:34 left, Wake Forest 60, UM 58: It's turned out to be another great ACC game. Brian Asbury has done a good job here in this little spurt to keep UM in the game. He's got 11 points including the last five -- a three-point play and a jumper from the free throw line. It's all going to be about defense here over the final 7 minutes. Can Miami get stops and more importantly stop getting burned by the three-point shot?
- 3:22 left, Wake Forest 67, UM 64: Anthony King only has eight points, but he's been huge in the second half, grabbing rebounds and doing the little things to create more balance inside for the Canes. Jeff Teague is playing out of his mind for Wake Forest. He's got 27 points. And Miami needs to stop him. Jack McClinton anyone? Jack has taken two shots in the second half and has 0 points.
- :30 left, Wake Forest 68, UM 68: Miami had a chance to take the lead, but Collins missed a shot inside. Now Wake has the ball and there is no shot clock.
- :2.6 left, Wake Forest 70, UM 68: Ish Smith hits the game-winner from the same spot and the same shot he did to beat Virginia Tech on Dec. 23.

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The biggest problem with why the team loses these games is because teams that are not used to winning tend to find ways to LOSE games instead of winning them (with under a minute left Collins misses a layup, jack steals the ball then loses it). This team is used to losing, especially on the road, so the trend continues.

That is a combination of both coaches and players. Once we win a close game like this on the road, the guys will be able to look back and draw on that experience. Unfortunately, none of them, including the coaches have that right now!

Btw, Manny, could you do me a favor and at your convenience ask Coach Haith what type of offense he runs (ie the flex, princeton, whatever, b/c it doesn't appear that anyone knows and that includes people I speak with at the BUC during games! Also, can you please ask him how they are trying to fix their perimeter defense (it's a repeat of last year)!

Thanks Manny. You do a great job of keeping us informed!

Re: argument above. King is the best defensive player we have, and the best rebounder, and the only one of our big men who can make freethrows. But he is soft. He can score in the post, but he settles for his jump shot. And it is hard to forgive him for that NC State blunder. I think the thing with this team is that they are fragile, and they have lost their confidence. They beat MissState in Miss, they have talent, but they can't close the deal. The most frustrating thing is that I haven't seen a game outside of Puerto Rico all year long where everybody played well. If Dues plays well, McClinton doesn't. If Mac does, then Asbury doesn't. And Rios has to be considered a Freshman bust right now. It sucks, because at one point, it looked like this team could be the 3rd best team in the ACC and a 5 seed in the tourney. Seems so long ago.

True, Anthony King is what he is. He's not that good but he's the best we got, unfortunately. That guy makes some of the dumbest mistakes I've ever seen.

Also, how bad is Ed Rios? Does that guy know how to play basketball? He doesn't do anything. He doesn't drive, he doesn't create any offense, he doesn't make any passes. I have no idea what the problem is with that guy but he looks so bad.

king ain't that bad gUys and rios is jUst a freshman. i for one am thrilled to have king in the middle - i jUst wish someone coUld play point. the biggest disappointment to me - lance hUrdle. to mUch dribble, to streaky, defensive lapses (ok that's all of them) bUt he's got some wheels. it's a long season and i have to bUy a hUge a$$ lUnch on friday for all the "nice people" i work with becaUse of this. let me tell yoU losing is EXPENSIVE!!! nyway - GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe jacory harris can play a little point gUard & look at it this way it coUld be kyle wright or kirby freeman leading the offense!!! talk aboUt OFFENSIVE!!!!

Rios demands to be released.

Disgruntled Miami hurricanes point guard Eddie Rios no longer wants to play basketball under Frank Haith.

Rios, 19, revealed Monday that he wants the Canes, losers of nine straight games away from home overall, to trade him.
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Eddie Rios (5) wants to be traded.

"We tried to make this work," he told the Miami herald.

"We have found out it doesn't. It is time for us all to move on."

"I don't personalize it," Canes head coach Frank said. "I'm more disappointed about where we are as a team right now.

Rios, one of the most flamboyant point guards in the Nation and from Miami , leads the Canes in steals and is second in assist and third in 3pt% this season for the Hurricanes— despite playing micro-managed minutes.

Continue Article.............

Rios has only started 2 games this season, averaged 8.3 points, 4.4 assists,1.6 steals and both resulted in victories.

"The reality is we are only looking to shoot threes and not run any type of offensive sets".I need to be coached and so does this Team!!!!!

The emergence of junior transfer Lance Hurdle means the canes won't need a legit point guard according to Rios's minutes.

Rios averaged 29.4 points, 9.2 assists, 6.7 rebounds, 2.0 steals at Miami Sr. highschool last year.Rios also became the youngest player to commit to the ACC behind Demarcus Nelson(2years 8 months). Rios
ranks first in points (2,864) for the historic Miami Sr. highschool power program.

"One thing that is unique about Rios is his ability to separate anything else that goes on and — once he steps between those lines —He gives his best effort but it will be hard this time for Rios to say ADIOS to MIAMI and his FANS.

king ain't that bad gUys and rios is jUst a freshman. i for one am thrilled to have king in the middle - i jUst wish someone coUld play point. the biggest disappointment to me - lance hUrdle. to mUch dribble, to streaky, defensive lapses (ok that's all of them) bUt he's got some wheels. it's a long season and i have to bUy a hUge a$$ lUnch on friday for all the "nice people" i work with becaUse of this. let me tell yoU losing is EXPENSIVE!!! nyway - GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe jacory harris can play a little point gUard & look at it this way it coUld be kyle wright or kirby freeman leading the offense!!! talk aboUt OFFENSIVE!!!!

Posted by: caneznbama | January 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM

What? King is that bad and Hurdle a dissapointment? What games have you been watching. Hurdle has been playing very well. He and McClinton have been the ones carrying us.

who leads the team in tUrnovers? which gUard has shot the fewest ft's (not coUnting the 'lil white gUy that never takes off his warm-Up)? who can't gUard my grandmother (ok again - that might be all of them)? lance hUrdle is lightning qUick bUt for the love of rick barry he can't shoot worth a dang. lance hUrdle is jUst not very good, bUt ok i'll give yoU this mUch he's the best we got @ point - man that hUrt to say!!!! can coach shannon recrUit Us a point gUard that can and wants to play point???

oh and if the posted report is trUe & rios wqants to go - c ya!!!!!

Lance Hurdle has been very good for us. He is by far our best PG. Have you been watching the games lately? He did struggle to start off the year but he has been shooting well as of late, especially from 3 and he creates offense better than anyone on our team.

I think Miami's ball passing is terrible. Then need someone who can penatrate and kick it back out for a easy three pointers. I never seen so many stupid passes by a team.

Diaz left,clemente left,butch estes left,michael hunt left,??? left.

Canes came close, but they don't have any type of ball movement on offense. At times they play like dudes in a pick up game.

Good effort though.

Manny,

I realize these "football players above the law" occurences happen at most Universities across the nation but I encourage your readers to read these special reports posted the past couple of days in the Seattle Times regarding the UW Football team during Rick Neuheisel's tenure; including the 2000 team that took Miami's NC hopes. People up here in the Pac NW still love to refer to Miami as Thug U. Maybe we should ask Miami's soon to be AD via UW about these previous incidents.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004147460_rbstevens270.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004150796_rbwilliams281.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004147443_rboverview27m0.html

Yo many about 50 other people were killed this past weekend in other states. Please do not talk about shootings in the sports column. Outsiders look at this and say damn Miami is rough. My city is as rough as any other city in the world. NSD is coming and negative press wil not help our cause. You can save all that for channel 10 news brief.

Manny,

I realize these "football players above the law" occurences happen at most Universities across the nation but I encourage your readers to read these special reports posted the past couple of days in the Seattle Times regarding the UW Football team during Rick Neuheisel's tenure; including the 2000 team that took Miami's NC hopes. People up here in the Pac NW still love to refer to Miami as Thug U. Maybe we should ask Miami's soon to be AD via UW about these previous incidents.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004147460_rbstevens270.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004150796_rbwilliams281.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004147443_rboverview27m0.html

Posted by: Russell | January 30, 2008 at 01:16 AM

Those articles are long but worth it. It is unbelievable what goes on in other Universities. When the hell does that ever happen at Miami? Miami constantly denies admittance to players and they get scooped up by other colleges immiediately. When was the last time a Hurricane was arrested? What has Miami ever done that was this serious besides the Pell Grant scandal? All this negative publicity came about because Miami would win year in and year out and they would taunt and get unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. That is where this all comes from.

Wow. those articles are almost unbelievable, almost. The coaches, prosecuters, lawyers..even police doing what they can to keep the players on the team.
Mike Compher, the new hot name for AD, was just there the last three years. Hopefully he was brought in to clean up the place. Shannon is the polar opposite to Neuheisel as far as accountability, just ask Sam Shields.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hVvMfgvocE

Check out this link... Then tell me Mrs. Luigent, where you would prefer your son to go... Please forward this on so that she can somehow see this.

I hate what is happeneing with Liuget and his family wanting him to leave Miami... What do they think that crime only happens in Miami? Please, look at Va Tech last year, look at LSU and the murders on campus last year, etc... Please, that sounds to me like a pre-planned excuse to not come to Miami... Has anyone ever watched the First 48 on A&E and seen that murder happens in other cities then Miami... I cannot stand that stupid notion that people have engraved in their heads about Miami...

In regards to Liuget's friend being shot he probaly was involved with the wrong people and owed someone some drug money or something... He wasn't just randomnly standing in the parking lot and someone decided it was a nice day outside to go gun someone down... Everytime the true story comes out on murders like that, drugs are involved 99.9 % of the time... If Liuget keeps his nose clean he has nothing to worry about, but if he gets involved in stuff that he shouldn't then he'll get in trouble no matter where he goes... Period!!

Yeah it's funny when peole call us Thug U, and I then ask them to give me something to warrant us being called Thug U, and they NEVER respond. It's just jealousy, and punk kids, who if they hear someone running ther mouth, they think it's true. Johnny said Miami is Thug U, so that's what I'm gonna call them, lol. Just ignorant idiots. Bummer on the BBall game, I watched it, and almost puked.

AMEN JRod!!!

A-fuking-men Brother

thug u = code for predominately black

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/24/sports/ncaabasketball/24vcu.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin
is anthony grant waiting in the wings ...
HOT SEAT

We need to stop with the drug rumors. This kid's friend got shot and instead of worrying about the kid's psyche, you're bring it up drug rumors. I would love to have the guy at the U, but the reality is he does not want to play here. If you were interested in getting the kid, you wouldn't bring up unsubstantiated rumors. Now get off these kids back and look at yourself.

an unwarranted banner headline for a democratic beauty contest ...
SUSPICIOUS

JROD you make a good point.. to a point. I have to agree with True Cane, you can't throw in random rumors or suggestions about why it happened, because when you do you're just as bad as everybody else. You ASSUME. For all we know Luiget's friend was a good kid who was mistaken for somebody else, or was in the wrong place at the wrong time. A young man lost his life, don't demean him with speculation. Even if he was involved in something illegal, that doesn't make his death any less tragic.

Miami is only given the name "Thug U" because we we're a predominately black team who liked to show-boat, so everybody assumed we were "thugs" eventhough Russel Maryland and others would go around their old neighborhoods teaching kids how to read. UF and FSU have each had more arrests the past year than we have had the last several.. but don't expect the tital of "Thug U" to go away anytime soon.

http://www6.miami.edu/communications/homepage/stateoftheunion/images/des_sotu_main.jpg
Donna Shalala stands tall ...
GIANT

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/398971.html
herald's amy driscoll: "The vote means the owners of Flagler, Calder Race Course and Miami Jai-Alai will be allowed to install up to 2,000 slot machines each. Flagler's owners have already said they'll plow $80 million to $100 million into renovations, including a casino and an outdoor amphitheater."
a long-held dream comes true ...
PINCH ME

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/080131/story2.shtml
"University of Miami details plans for massive life science park"
disney for biologists ...
SMALL WORLD

Who cares about Basketball... its Football Reqruiting season!

Latest on Tommy Streeter from The State (Columbia, SC)...

Streeter to decide on Sunday. Wide receiver Tommy Streeter (6-5, 200) of Miami has visited USC, Boston College and Oregon and will visit Miami this weekend. His father said his son will have a decision on Sunday.

USC coach Steve Spurrier is scheduled for his in-home visit with the Streeters today.

As a former BB player and coach at all age levels.

Haith gave WF the opportunity to get 3PT shots as they (WF) do in practice. That 2/3 passive zone should have been changed to either man to man or a 1/3/1 pressure zone D as soon as they hit three in a row!!!!

A team needs to have many different D and O schemes to counteract a team, if that team out of the ordinary gets hot (WF and the 3 pt shots going in).

AGAIN!! Haith waits for the game to have 5 minutes left and THEN decides to play man on man and pressure zone on half-court!!! Against this lousy and horrible WF team that D should have been played since the beginning. HOW THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE GOT TO 12-0??? and WF was last in 3 pt shots. At then end they did not know what to do with our pressure. Why wait to be down to change????

King is not our best post-defender, he is a "stiff" type of center. He will block the shot if it is in front of him, but he will not look for it. Graham on the other hand, is athletic and blocks and rebounds with energy for a longer period of time. (King gets tired a bit more and stays put).

I kept yelling at the TV for them to get back on D!! Haith needs to drill them to get back and not worry about their defender. (IMO they are watching too much NBA and are trying to defend or play like NBA players). Their is no Defensive 3 second violation or illegal defense in NCAA.

Haith needs to have them all run down the court and get into a zone, that was the type of D they were playing anyway. Don't worry about your assignment staying behind!!!

Haith needs to make up the play in which Jack either come off a pass or as the point and gets a screen "pick" on top and can get a better shot. He was smoking hot in the first half and in the second Haith did nothing to try and get him open.

Players cannot "free-lance" out there, they play D and O as the coach tells them. I like Haith but his X and O or his strategy is very limited and he needs to get an asst that can help them with it. He is a great recruiter and kids love him, but our game plans suk.

If anyone in the nation is confused as to who is the official Thug U in the state of Florida, look no further than Gaynesville.

The article below chronicles 8 of the 12 UF-related arrests in the past 9 months.

http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/12/28/university-of-florida-the-ncaa-version-of-the-bengals/

As a former BB player and coach at all age levels.

Haith gave WF the opportunity to get 3PT shots as they (WF) do in practice. That 2/3 passive zone should have been changed to either man to man or a 1/3/1 pressure zone D as soon as they hit three in a row!!!!

A team needs to have many different D and O schemes to counteract a team, if that team out of the ordinary gets hot (WF and the 3 pt shots going in).

AGAIN!! Haith waits for the game to have 5 minutes left and THEN decides to play man on man and pressure zone on half-court!!! Against this lousy and horrible WF team that D should have been played since the beginning. HOW THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE GOT TO 12-0??? and WF was last in 3 pt shots. At then end they did not know what to do with our pressure. Why wait to be down to change????

King is not our best post-defender, he is a "stiff" type of center. He will block the shot if it is in front of him, but he will not look for it. Graham on the other hand, is athletic and blocks and rebounds with energy for a longer period of time. (King gets tired a bit more and stays put).

I kept yelling at the TV for them to get back on D!! Haith needs to drill them to get back and not worry about their defender. (IMO they are watching too much NBA and are trying to defend or play like NBA players). Their is no Defensive 3 second violation or illegal defense in NCAA.

Haith needs to have them all run down the court and get into a zone, that was the type of D they were playing anyway. Don't worry about your assignment staying behind!!!

Haith needs to make up the play in which Jack either come off a pass or as the point and gets a screen "pick" on top and can get a better shot. He was smoking hot in the first half and in the second Haith did nothing to try and get him open.

Players cannot "free-lance" out there, they play D and O as the coach tells them. I like Haith but his X and O or his strategy is very limited and he needs to get an asst that can help them with it. He is a great recruiter and kids love him, but our game plans suk.

Hey Canes Fan check this out.
WR Streeter to Visit Miami
In this interview with Tommy Streeter Sr., he discusses where Tommy Jr. stands in his recruitment, how hard UM is recruiting Streeter, what he thinks of new UM wide receiver coach Aubrey Hill, what Tommy will be looking for on his UM visit, and the important factors that will lead to his decision.
here the source http://insidetheu.com/news/viewnews.php?v=47a003938fb1e
anyone know what up??

check this out: i guess jacson won't be coming to the U.
Defensive end Jonathan Jackson, who had the University of Miami as his top choice, told CaneSport.com on Monday that ``FIU's my leader. I like the school over there. It's like family.''
Anyone know what the update with Hardin ? he plan to take another visit after all. where does miami stand with him? he said that on rivals.com.
also i heard Miami had a real chance at Brandon Moore, but apparently he is going to stick with his commit to Michigan. is that true? we need to recruits real hard because i believe we are run out of luck.

Hey Manny sometime last year you mentioned Haith maybe recruiting another PG/SG. Do you know if he has decided to sign one and do you know of any prospects? Rios obviously isn't enough for next year, although I love Hurdle. He can penetrate without fear and can hit the three.

Hey Manny sometime last year you mentioned Haith maybe recruiting another PG/SG. Do you know if he has decided to sign one and do you know of any prospects? Rios obviously isn't enough for next year, although I love Hurdle. He can penetrate without fear and can hit the three.

"In regards to Liuget's friend being shot he probaly was involved with the wrong people and owed someone some drug money or something... He wasn't just randomnly standing in the parking lot and someone decided it was a nice day outside to go gun someone down... Everytime the true story comes out on murders like that, drugs are involved 99.9 % of the time..."

Posted by: JRod | January 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM

I wonder what JRod thinks about Bryan Pata. Hey JRod, did Pata owe someone drug money? Do you also believe Sean Taylor had it coming to him? Don't be an idiot and blame the victim without a shred of credible evidence. You just make yourself look like a complete ass.

Displaced Cane in Chi-Town,

I am speaking from experience, because I have been a memeber of US Custom's Gang Unit in Miami for 5 years and I am sure of the fact that I have probaly been in a few more drug stings then you... By the way after Pata's death a huge gun cache was found in his house, so you tell me whether that was proof of him being involved in things that unfortunately led to his death... In regards to Taylor it's unfortunate, but don't tell me who sounds like a complete ass, because I live it and see it everyday!!

So JRod, as a member of a Federal law enforcement agency, are you telling us you approach every case like this under the assumption that the victim was "guilty until proven innocent?" I don't know about anyone else, but that scares the crap out of me! I have a decent-sized gun collection too, does that make me shady? Or could it be I am just a hunting aficionado? Or could I possible just enjoy collecting guns. Wow!

JRod, you work with Randal Hill?

JRod,

As a law enforcement officer, you should know full well that you cannot detain a suspect -- let alone search them -- without reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot. Your willingness to assume the worst about a murder victim (Liuget's friend) without knowing the first thing about his death tells all of us a lot about your character as well as the type of LEO you are.

Pata was not a hunting afficionado, trust me.. Most of the guns were not registered to him, and I know from talking to contacts I have from Dade County's homicide detectives... He was involved in some stuff, trust me on that... And yes, when someone is murdered in that fashion, it is investigated as if the person was involved in certain things like gangs, drug money etc... Come on, it was a hit... He was targeted in a parking lot in broad day light... I see this everyday, and I have a little more knowledge then you when it comes to this stuff... I don't need to explain myself to you or Chicago boy for that matter... Ask anyone in Fed or local law enforcement how they would begin their investigation into someone targeted in a parking lot in broad daylight... At that point the investigation changes once it is clear that the person was a victim of random violence, but this smells like there was more to it then that...

And yes you are innocent until proven guilty, but certain homicide scenes are investigated differently... You are just naive to this and rightfully so as you obviously do not have exeprience in that field...

Chi-Town,

I do not need to argue with you Mr. Windy city, because I deal with enough of people's crap at work everyday and I have seen and been involved in plenty of things that would make you wet your pants.

I am out as I need to take a nap before the grave-yard shift tonight...

R.I.P Liuget's friend (whether you were involved in stuff or not--You are still a victim here)

Go Canes... Stay warm up in "Shot-Town" Displaced Cane

JRod... Thank You for your dedication in the US Custom's Gang Unit, but you are sooo far off base, as to make a statement about anybody before you find out the facts! Sean Taylor is a perfect example of a robbery gone wrong and what you say here echo's far in the night and around the world in seconds. Yes, Miami is a huge city (3 million populace) in comparison to most cities in the world and yes, we have crime but all cities have crime... but very little in Coral Gables where we, the U of Miami reside. So JRod, do us all a favor and hold your opinions for the facts.

It is a tragedy that anybody must die in our world of today... It happens to the innocent all the time, as well as those who want to take advantage of the innocent and play with the Devil. We don't know, but May God Bless this little boy and his parents and friends who loved him.

To the parents who are reading these posts. The areas surrounding the U are one of the safest in the country, bar none. Home values here start at $700,000 and the police who protect us are ever vigilant in watching out for us.

A Canes Fan

JRod, it may be true that you have more experience in this field than I do, but your comments were not "investigative," they were "conclusive." I completely understand that as an investigator you try to rule out the worst (a hit) first and settle on random last. (It's like a doctor ruling out an aneurysm before diagnosing a stress headache.) That's fine...if you were "investigating." But you're not, and chose an open forum to "conclude" it was a hit (a drug hit, to be specific) without any facts. That's irresponsible and unfair to the victim and his family and friends. In the end, you may be right, but right now, you don't have anything but a hunch. To speak-out on that hunch is what we are saying is irresponsible. Let the facts come out before you choose to defame without basis.

JRod... I just read your last post about Pata and only have this to say... you are a jurk, with no face and no name to report you to your superiors. How dare you come on a Canes board and tarnish a dead man's honored name or anybodies honor for that matter who has passed... You say "He was involved in some stuff, trust me on that".... your innuendo's and accusations based on hunches and hearsay's are unforgiving and down right cruel to anyone loved him... before you say another word, find his killer and then states the facts.

Until then, he is INNOCENT

A Canes Fan

JRod... I just read your last post about Pata and only have this to say... you are a jurk, with no face and no name to report you to your superiors. How dare you come on a Canes board and tarnish a dead man's honored name or anybodies honor for that matter who has passed... You say "He was involved in some stuff, trust me on that".... your innuendo's and accusations based on hunches and hearsay's are unforgiving and down right cruel to anyone loved him... before you say another word, find his killer and then states the facts.

Until then, he is INNOCENT

A Canes Fan

Posted by: Cat Five | January 30, 2008 at 05:46 PM

Settle down. I heard he was in some stuff as well.

Robert,
I'm trying to hold it in! But I'm mad as hell and need to let time pass.

Manny:
With UM DL Perry leaving school and enrolling at Texas Tech, does that mean we have an additional Scholarship available for this years NSD?? Thanks for the research!!!
Vlady
Los Angeles, CA

JROD, if you were really in Law Enforcement then you would know that you never reveal even the slightest details of an ON-GOING INVESTIGATION...ESPECIALLY IN A MURDER CASE...your five years in Law Enforcement must have been behind the desk??? JROD is a fraud...coming on here claiming to be an LEO...lmfao!!!

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