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The Day After

Well, the madness is over -- for now. National Signing Day has come and gone. The Hurricanes netted 33 signees -- the exact number I was told way back in October was the target number.

I got to say I'm a little surprised and impressed with how well UM did yesterday overall. I figured Miami would get Booker T. Washington cornerback Brandon Harris. But I thought after all the uncertainty surrounding Northwestern receiver Tommy Streeter and the switch safety Ramon Buchanon made to Florida, it was going to be awfully hard for Miami to land those guys yesterday. But Randy Shannon and his staff got them. Those three turned out to be the big gets Wednesday.

All in all, Miami lined up a class every scouting service in the country basically rated in the Top 5. But what do you think of it overall? What kind of grade would you give the Canes? Do they still have holes they wanted to fill and didn't get to in your eyes? Where are you most impressed with the job Miami did? I want to hear your thoughts below.

SO HOW MANY GET IN?: OK, so 33 was the number Miami wanted to get and did. But how many of these guys actually get into school and are on this team in the fall? That became a point of contention yesterday during Shannon's press conference. When asked how UM was able to sign more than the maximum 25 scholarships allowed per year, things got kind of confusing. Shannon said the team could bring in all 33 of the current signees under the rules even though he admitted there are only "29 to 30'' slots open. He said Miami simply couldn't go over the limit of 85.

"It's in the book - as long as you can get under 85 you'll be OK. Four to five count as last year's - you're banking and then you get ahead, so you can get over the 25. We didn't sign four or five last year, so you're banking those. You bring those up, that gives you 29 or 30."

So what happens to the extras? ‘‘Some of them may have to go to prep school, some may not, we may sign all 33." I guess we'll have to stay tuned.

SHANNON'S TAKE: One thing is for sure, Shannon, a veteran of this recruiting game, won't be Randy_shannon sweating it. He told us Wednesday afternoon he wasn't nervous during the final tense moments of national signing day like his assistants were. But he was definitely thrilled with the finish. "I don't get all crazy about it. You win some, you lose some. That's part of it. I've been around where I thought I was going got get a kid -- Hey, we got this kid.' You talk to him about 8:58, he's all ready to go - `Coach, I'm going to sign the papers.' Then, 9 o'clock he goes in the back, comes back out and goes to another school. It happens, so I don't get too emotional about it."

FOUNDATION OF PLAYMAKERS: Shannon called this class "a foundation" for the future. It has to be. Although Shannon wouldn't project how many of these guys would make immediate impacts, he talked about the needs Miami filled. Obviously to me the biggest are at linebacker, receiver and quarterback. Shannon talked about what we've all known -- how badly UM needs receivers and playmakers that can make a move and get downfield.

"Last year we had a lot of one-on-one opportunities and we couldn't make anyone miss. That was the biggest emphasis. We had to find guys that could run after the catch. You see guys at Northwestern and Central, Pahokee and Belle Glade, they make someone miss, that becomes phenomenal. If you look at the receivers we have, Aldarius [Johnson], LaRon [Byrd] and Tommy Streeter, those are big receivers. The next tier is Davon [Johnson] and Travis [Benjamin]. They're 5-11, 6-foot guys that can play in and out, make some plays. Then you have slot guys, which are Thearon Collier and Kendal Thompkins that can go one-one-one they can win. They're quick and exciting and can do some returns. All those guys, from Davon Johnson down, have return ability. Those guys plus the guys we have now it's exciting because when injuries come you can always put somebody back in there."

RECRUITING MVP -- DONNA SHALALA?: Shannon called his recruiting MVP UM President Donna Shalala during his press conference. OK, while I'd like to believe that, is he serious? Apparently so.

"When parents come in, their No. 1 concern is education and safety for their kid," UM recruiting coordinator Clint Hurtt said. "And those are the things she drilled home with parents. When kids came on unofficial visits, she meets with them. And its not a thing where it's 15 minutes. She sits down with them in her office. She gets to know them and asks them questions. And the one thing they all say when they leave after the visit that impressed them the most is that conversation with Shalala. And she deserves her due for that."

OK, while Shalala had an influence, truth be told the guys who were in the trenches deserve a lot of credit for Miami's success yesterday. And those are namely two guys in my eyes -- Hurtt and linebackers coach Micheal Barrow. I got a chance to talk with Hurtt for about 10 minutes after Shannon's half hour press conference and this is what he said about Barrow, who was responsible for swaying Buchanon back, getting Arthur Brown out of Kansas and a few other notable kids in the class. "I thought everyone on the staff did a great job, but I'm particularly excited for coach Barrow. It was his first year ever doing it and he did a bang up job. He's very passionate about it in staying on top of kids and building relationships with families."

One thing Hurtt pointed out is that Miami doesn't recruit kids with only one recruiter. He said its a collective team effort. "We staff recruit. We like to double up and triple up on guys."

EARLY WAKE UP CALL: One of the funnier stories of the day came from Hurtt who told a small collection of reporters how he was so distracted he was by national signing day woke up in the middle of the night Wednesday, took a shower, got in his car only to find out it was a little too early. "I've been battling the flu. So, I took a Z-Pac and went to sleep at 7:30. I got up, took a shower got in my truck and saw it was 1:30 in the morning. I said 'What the hell am I doing?. I came back home, layed down for about threee hours and got back up and got in about 5 in the morning."

RECRUITING EACH OTHER: Hurtt said Miami's great, early start nabbing commitments was the key to building the momentum to UM's great class. He credited defensive tackle Marcus Forston and linebacker Jordan Futch for being key recruiters themselves. "Great players want to play with great players. So they were big. Any time one of them was floating, or thinking about going somewhere else, they'd pull each other back in. Jordan Futch, he drove by Jeremy Lewis' house. Sat down with him and reaffirmed his commitment here."

SWEATING IT OUT: Ultimately, Hurtt said Miami was sweating out four players going into the final day -- Detroit King's Nick Perry, Jacksonville Trinity running back Jamie Harper, Tallahassee Lincoln cornerback T.J. Bryant, and Melbourne Palm Bay's Ramon Buchanon. "Ramon was the first one we got back. So, that was the one we knew about. But with the other three we felt from the get-go Nick Perry was a longshot. With Harper, I built a close relationship with him. His dad called me to tell me he was going to Clemson and it was hard. But in the end, we wished him the best. All in all, we were still very happy with how things turned out."

WHAT NOW?: Now, it's time to turn the focus toward spring football, which will begin Tuesday, Feb. 26. Shannon said all of those practices will remain closed to the public except two including the spring game at Lockhart Stadium on March 29th and UM's practice at Traz Powell Stadium, which has yet to be determined.

Wednesday, he said he expects an intense battle at quarterback between Robert Marve, Jacory Harris and Cannon Smith. "Those three guys will get a lot of reps."

* Guys who will not be getting reps due to injuries are linebackers Romeo Davis and Colin McCarthy and offensive lineman Orlando Franklin. Shannon said defensive end Courtney Harris will also probably miss the spring.
* It's been rumored for awhile, but Shannon finally announced that Allen Bailey will be switching from linebacker to defensive end. Bailey, a sophomore, has a monster-sized body and I expect him to be a force there.

RECRUITING FUTURE: I know national signing day is 364 days away. But here at Eye On The U that's still less than a year, which means its still important. Today, I'll be visiting Miami Killian High and meeting with Miami-Dade top's recruit in '09 -- running back Lamar Miller. Be sure to check out the story soon.

As for UM, Shannon and Hurtt both said yesterday UM's focus in '09 will be targeting offensive lineman and tight ends. I'd throw running back in there also. Tonight, I'm planning on recording another recruiting podcast with Larry Blustein to wrap up '08 and to look ahead to '09. Larry already has his list of the state's top 500 recruits ready to roll.

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Chevyboy79 - thanks for the compliment and same kudos to you for pointing out the existing OL talent here. I remember reading an article about those sophmores bonding on a farm in Iowa last year. I have alot of confidence that O Line will NOT be a problem. Thanks for sharing the information!

Manny - historic job on your coverage. The thoroughness of the blog is matched by your insightful details - which stems from actual reportage. And that's hard work.
And taking that into the 21st century in terms of the vids, audio and all the blogging - it's probably never been done before by any sports reporter so thoroughly. (And it shows us, incidentally, how generalized the content is that actually makes it into print edition.)

Hopefully you'll be doing this a while - before Sports Illustrated steals you - cuz I read every word you write here in VT.

This great class is thrilling. I'm awaiting for you to announce the Traz Powell spring date to buy my ticket, can't wait.
Keep it up!
Michael

I second that on the special teams stuff that is 1/3 rd of the game and we sucked at it the last couple years. we pretty much sucked at every phase the last couple years.

Thanks for ALL the hard work Manny. I was following your blog all day. You really kept us informed as things continued to unfold.

VaCanesFan - I agree that special teams were a glaring weakness last year. Not only does the incoming class brin many returner possibilities, but a lot of people (safeties and linebackers, I really believe there was a method to the signing of all of them...) who will make the kickoff team much better. It used to be a staple of the Miami program, limited opponents return yardage and really big hits.

I just wanted to say that my job has me going from jobsite to jobsite all across the tri-county area. I was constantly trying to get NSD info anywhere on the radio without success. I came across the "Boog Sciambi Show" hoping to get some info on my beloved Canes. Not only did he not entertain the subject of NSD, but after being prodded by his producer on air,"Boog, there's a lot of people out there that want to know about this", he, Sciambi, proceeded to say; "Dude, I'm not going to discuss if Joe Schmoe, a 300lb. lineman from Wisconsin is coming to Miami ! I immediately switched stations back to WQAM where Jason Jackson then gave a little bit of information.
I just want to go on record here to say that I will never listen to the Boog Sciambi show again. You are dead to me !
GO CANES !!!!!

Posted by: The Wizard | February 07, 2008 at 06:42 PM
numbers don't lie ... boog(er) blows!
UNLISTENABLE

"hey everybody ... let's talk baseball" booooooo ... booooooo ... you suck ...
WEAK LINK

ignore us at your peril ... out of touch ...
DEMAND

Matt Patchan Jr. retrospective - Matt's dad is a true Cane, so I imagine Matt Jrs. flight to Gainesville is difficult for his family as well as a tough loss for UM. Matt Jr.is supposedly strong willed and it looks like his becoming a Gator may be a part of his parent separation thing. Looking ahead I can't help but think that Matt Jr. will have a divided heart when he's in the locker room and his Gator teammates are railing against everything Cane - and possibly by insinuation the character of his father. Will it affect is play and Gator allegiance - I don't know, just a thought.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/02/05/recruiting-a-business-boom/
aol's brian grummel: "According to the article Rivals now has 180,000 subscribers to go along with over 70 million page views on signing day. Yahoo! recently bought Rivals for $100 million."
IN DENIAL

All I can say is WOW! Canes fans, name me one player on this roster right now that is a stone-cold lock as a starter? Anyone? With Campbell and Philips bolting, I say none, but I can be convinced to, at most, give you Fox and possibly Youngblood. Besides that, every single position is up for grabs right now. So, this team needed to reload in a huge way, and it did. Congrats Randy, "The Foundation" has been laid!

pbpost's jorge milian: "The spring game will be played on March 29 and is scheduled for Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale."
whoa ... why not dolphin stadium ...
BLINDSIDE

Posted by: green | February 07, 2008 at 09:57 AM
conflicts with marlins v. yankees ...
thankfully, the marlins lease expires after 2010 ...
HURRY UP

The U is back in every way, picking up great players and criminal charges. Word out the Miami-Dade courthouse is that Sean Spence was in misdemeanor court this morning charged with resisting w/o violence and simple battery. Just like the teams from the past as long as they get it done on the field who cares about the criminal problems.

And to those concerned about a true Freshman or red-shirt Freshman QB, please look at the success of recent QBs Colt McCoy (TX), Matthew Stafford (GA), and Mitch Mustain (Ark). And by the way, Kosar was a red-shirt and won the '83 title. And we don't have just any first-year guys: Marve (Mr. FL, State Champ), Harris (Mr. FL, 2x State Champ, Nat'l Champ), Cook (State Semis), Smith (#1 Prep, State Champ r/u) = lot's of experience in big games. We'll be fine!

http://media.www.thehurricaneonline.com/media/storage/paper479/news/2008/02/07/Sports/Ohio-Us.Hocutt.Expected.To.Be.Named.New.Athletic.Director.Herald.Reports-3196941.shtml
noon presser to announce Kirby Hocutt AD

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/ohio/sports/genrel/auto_headshot/316053.jpe
Kirby Hocutt AD: 35, handsome, fit, oklahoma tree, former linebacker, accomplished fundraiser & marketer ...
DREAMY

http://ohiobobcats.cstv.com/genrel/hocutt_kirby00.html
"Kirby Hocutt led Oklahoma's athletics fundraising to an all-time high in annual giving and capital campaigns. From 1998 to 2005, Oklahoma's annual giving increased from $3.4 million to more than $17 million. That 400 percent increase in annual giving was one of the highest percentage increases in intercollegiate athletics history."
DAYM

(cont.) "Prior to joining the Oklahoma staff, Kirby Hocutt served as the assistant director of licensing at the NCAA. In that position, he worked with corporate partners and licensees to create new revenue producing initiatives to support and promote all 81 NCAA championships."
DOUBLE DAYM

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2007/05/03/ou_track.ART_ART_05-03-07_C1_JV6IUI9.html
dispatch's mark znidar: "... Ohio ranked at the bottom in the conference before Frank Solich was hired as football coach before the 2005 season. The GMAC was the team's first bowl since 1968 and the nine victories in 2006 were the second most in school history."
BREADWINNER

Hey...Ur Momma:

Just add Colin McCarthy and thats it...all other positions are open. Additionally, the most vocal leaders of this team will be from Randy Shannon's recruiting classes. It really is his team now.

Does anyone have a list of who redshirted last year?

i get so hype when we talk Hurricane Football. here is how i see it. the staff did a monster of a job recruiting and we will see it pay off in two, three years...i'm fine with this. i'm a patient person as long as i see progress. what excites me most about this class is their passion for competition. all these kids realize this is a highly touted recruiting class and there are about 5 to 8 at each major positon competing for a starting spot or second tier...and yet they still signed with the mighty U!!! its going to drive these student athletes to their limits and greatness will shine in everyone of them.

now what kind of baffles me is the lack of recruiting on OL. i know we picked up the studs from NW and we have some already lined up from last year...Gunn, Franklin, Symonnette. but in the same breath, i can't knock Shannon for anything...he's done a tremendous job!! can't wait for season opener.

I think this was an AWESOME class, and the only thing I see we didn't address was the O-line. I'm still so pumped that I don't care, lol.

I wonder about our QB's. What if they ALL just kick @ss? Would we ever do a 2 QB system? With the NW gang, and Harris, would we have him in to make it smoother,a nd since they've all played together? Would Marve be the man on long balls? What about Cannon? And Taylor the Texan, isn't he the 6-6 kid. We may have a group of stud QB's, and I'd hate to see them not get to play. Someon above said it would be nice if Dorsey came to coach the qb's, and I can't think of a better guy to do that. Dorsey was a FIELD GENERAL, a REAL student of the game, and great work ethic. Who knows.

SK8...you made several good points in your earlier posts. Just wondering which one is it: 7 or 9 wins? I only ask because those numbers produce two very different seasons.


Posted by: 86Cane | February 08, 2008 at 12:11 AM

86Cane... My gut feeling has me down for 7 wins with the last victory being a bowl game. There's a lot of potential throughout the team, but as Jeff Van Note (former All Pro Center for the Falcons) said - Potential is French for haven't done it yet. But I talk with CanLuvr all the time and read the post of others so I'm tempted to have a couple of sips of kool-aid and bump my win total to up 9

I see us going through a lot of growing pains first before we learn how to win. It's a big difference between hoping you're going to win and knowing it. The UM teams of the past knew they were going to win. No matter if they were down in the 4th Quarter or not, someone was going to make a play or the opposition would falter under the pressure. There was never any doubt from the coaching staff on down to the ball boys that Miami was going to be victorious when the clock hit 0:00.

No one on the current roster has that resolve. Yeah folks on the blogs can spout out the Freshmen have that much desired swagger, but new kids on the block have to earn your respect first before you bestow upon them the title of leader.

We've all been in a situation where a new person comes upon the scene popping off at the mouth about how things should work or how they used to do it where ever they were from. You just don't blindly go following that new person. You go through some battles with that new person first before you learn to have faith and trust in what they say.

So for now the leaders on the team are the upperclassmen and I think most of will agree that the book is still out on them. Enormous talent on paper, but still looking for the results on the playing field. The Freshmen will push them, but my guess is that at this point in their careers the upperclassmen are the better players.

Some things you just learn with experience. The Freshmen have dominated in high school against inferior talent based on just talent alone. But now they have to develop other parts of their game in order to succeed. Their work ethic will be challenged and some guys won't be able to answer the bell (i.e. Kyle Wright, Lance Leggett, Doug Wiggins).

With our schedule we could open the season 1-2. And depending on how close/blow out the UF game is will determine a lot. If we can keep it close then guys will start to believe they can play with the best teams in the nation. But if it gets ugly then I see some folks will start to let doubt enter the picture. And if you go into a game wondering if you're going to lose, then you've already lost. And the fans won't make matters any better.

The team will need our support in order to turn this ship around. There are three steps that need to take place. First you have to stop the ship and we did that by firing Coker. Then you gotta right the ship and do a 180 degree turn. That's happening now with the classes Randy and staff have brought in the past two years. Finally you have to gain momentum and move in the right direction. I think we're still in between the 2nd and 3rd phase now so 7 wins this year will be followed by 10 next year with an appearance in a BCS Bowl Game.

nice commentary but..really what a waste of time..and you probably think that the miami real-estate mkt is comming back soon also..lol keep your 7 win prediction to your self this team wins min 9 games next year. and 2009 they win the acc and shot at the national title.

article from rivals on lamar miller wanting to be a cane...

Miami (FL) Killian High School RB Lamar Miller already has big-time offers and big-time stats.

But he's waiting on his hometown team, the Hurricanes, to offer him a scholarship.

Miller, who has earned comparisons to Clinton Portis from his coaches, finished last season with 154 rushes for 1,126 yards and 12 touchdowns.

He's landed offers from Florida, Georgia, Rutgers and Ole Miss.

"Miami's sending me mail but hasn't offered," Miller said. "I talked to Randy Shannon a while back, went to one of their practices, just talked about how you have to have good grades, be focused. I also met Graig Cooper and Javarris James – they were saying it's a good school and that all the running backs there get a chance for playing time."

Miller says he sees himself becoming a Cane down the road.

"Miami is my No. 1 choice – they're in front by a lot," he said. "I've been liking them since I was little, and I like the way they run their offense."

Miller lists other programs he's considering as Ohio State, Florida, Clemson, Texas and Rutgers.

A reason Miller would prefer to attend UM: "I have family that want me to stay home, my mom and my dad – they just don't want me far away from them."

Miller's coach, Steve Smith, knows what a lucky program will be getting on signing day next year.

"No. 1 he's a great kid," Smith said. "He's humble, a great kid in class. The teachers all say how they love him. And on the football field he leads by example. He gets the team excited when he runs.

"He's a breakaway kid, but we run a lot of power runs, and he's not a kid that's afraid to put his shoulder down, either. He looks the part – he's a very physical looking specimen, very put together. Everyone who sees him likes his film. Miami coaches have said they like the way he runs, his speed being a big kid like that, a physical back."

just imagine miller and brown coming to the U incredible... the U WILL WOULD BE THE BEST DINASTY EVER...................SCARY LOOKING TEAM........

http://www6.miami.edu/UMH/CDA/UMH_Main/1,1770,2593-1;60245-3,00.html
Kirby Hocutt AD assumes the office june 1.
MAZEL TOV

http://www.ocala.com/article/20080207/SPORTS/802070341/

report on aSS lookin meyer gettin tick for losin COOKIE...

I'm wiht alot of you up above on we're going to go through growing pains, and a 6 or 7 win season again is not out of the realm. Now, don't get me wrong, we may shock the world, and NOTHING would make me happier, but these kids have to get used to the speed of college, and have to humble themeselves to the fact, that they're now SURROUNDED by superstars on every team, and it's a whole new ballgame compared to high school. Just have heart, and don't quit, like we did in quite a few games last year. That hurt me more than losing, was just seeing the guys give up. I don't think this group will follow that trend. I belive they'll bring back the desire to win.

cookie video on signing day...
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=video10

all this talk of only six wins next season is ridiculous...we return two backs that most likely will be NFL first rounders and an ol that is year older and year wiser with more depth...plus the dead weght at the qb spot is gone and by my estamation sam sheilds will have a major break out... the defense well I bet we are top 15 next year in total defense and will only get better with age...and if anybody is worried about UF they lost 4 games last year and it will only get worse up there...that coach Urban Meyer is joke...Zook will win a national title at IL before Meyer wins another (personally I see Florida falling to lower tier sec by 2010. The U is back and its just now a question of how long do we own the college football world this time.

nice commentary but..really what a waste of time..and you probably think that the miami real-estate mkt is comming back soon also..lol keep your 7 win prediction to your self this team wins min 9 games next year. and 2009 they win the acc and shot at the national title.

Posted by: lacane | February 08, 2008 at 12:13 PM

lacane - the man asked my opinion so I gave it to him. And not only do I stand by my prediction, but I gave reasons as to why I feel the way I do. It's easy to pop off at the mouth with no substance. Here's a look at next year's schedule. Go ahead big man name our 9 wins since you know everything.

Charlston
UF
TAM
UCF
Wake
NCSt
FSU
Virginia
GT
Duke
UNC
VT

Finally I currently live in Atlanta so the South Florida real estate market really isn't my #1 priority. Everyone knows that real estate will eventually rebound. You just gotta be able to ride it on out. Hopefully you didn't over exert yourself and bite off more house than you can afford. But on the flip side if you have the necessary capital this is a great time to capitalize on some incredible deals. A crisis is two fold. To some it's potential danger, but to others it's an opportunity. Which side of the coin are you on? Depending on your viewpoint, the landscape is completely different.

nice commentary but..really what a waste of time..and you probably think that the miami real-estate mkt is comming back soon also..lol keep your 7 win prediction to your self this team wins min 9 games next year. and 2009 they win the acc and shot at the national title.

Posted by: lacane | February 08, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Minimum 9 games? Are you out of your mind?

SK8...then go out and start snapping these great deals up then you can sell them to me much lower next year...lol....and that schedule well we should beat Charleston (shouldn't be on the schedule but scrimmages are good), a&m (we crushed them last year), ucf (will walk all over them), wake (ver winnable game), ncst(should have killed them last year), fs-who (who we beat on the road), Virginia ( we owe them for the debacle at the OB and they lost a lot seniors including there best player in Long and those meaty tight ends), GT we lost a nail bighter because our run d was soft and that wont happen again plus coaching changes at GT), Duke (who we beat) and UNC both at home come on we will crush both teams (last year was a fluke and we almost beat UNC at unc after being down by 31 at the 1/2) VT is home (very winnable game and last year we were competitive with them through 3 quarters...every game is winnable for this team and Florida well we shall see but if I remember correctly we have owned them for 2 decades and even beat them with Brock...second year with Shannon and Nix and the ducks are falling into place the CANES are back and will be for sometime. Last note on the real-estate for you:
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Good luck bag holder and keep scooping up that value!

I think we pulled in a good class but lets not call it great just yet. We filled a lot of needs with this class and we will be a better team for it. I still think we should have got a couple more OL and maybe a top Running back. You can never have to many RB's or OL's with injuries. However, hats of to the Miami staff for recruiting a top 5 class nationally. I believe Miami is 2-3 years away from competing for a national title again if we can continue to recruit top class's. This year I am looking for the U to get 8-9 wins and maybe compete for the ACC title. Look for the D to improve tremendously and the O should look much better also, However the QB position will be key.

lacane... I'll give you Charlston, but after that I need to see more before I assume any more victories. TAMU is an entirely different team playing at home. Just like the Orange Bowl would rock when the crowd cheered, their stadium does the same thing. So I want to see our young guys perform in such hostile environments before I automatically assume victory.

And speaking of making an ass out of myself. Like I said I currently live in Atlanta so I've had to eat much crow the past 3 years losing to Ga Tech. That's why I'm not taking anything for granted. As UM fans it's illogical to lose to 2nd Rate programs like Ga Tech, UNC, NC State, Virgina etc, but that's the reality we've faced the last few years.

Gone are the days when we intimidated teams just by showing up. Now we have to earn our victories on the field. I figure we'll win some and lose some. So yeah we do have a lot of "winnable" games. But you couldn't have told me two years ago that Miami would have fallen this far. I'd love to see us win 9+ games next year. Just think it's too early to be that optimistic.

Well at least we agree we like the Canes and we want the best for this team... maybe I am to optimistic but since the first game I ever went was the 83 OB I expect these canes to always try and play to that caliber if they fail they fail but I want to see the effort... and every game is winnable next year it will be interesting to see if that hungrier and drives is back...which I think it will be but I guess that’s why the play 4 quarters and they need to prove it to us as fans before we (I) give them any credit… I am just taking the ambitious approach that it will happen and if it does they should win a lot of those ACC games. Go Canes! And no hard feelings we are all in this together.

lacane... oh I couldn't agree more. I meant to say that it's no hard feelings what so ever on my part. We can agree to disagree as long as we're trying to see Da U excel. I talk more thrash up here to my co-workers about Miami. And the last three years I've had to take their abuse. So until I see some positive results I'm being more cautious.

Going into a game I always see the possibility of Miami pulling out a victory. But that's just it. I'm wishing, hoping and praying for a win. I can lay out a game plan of what all Miami has to do to come out on top. Now whether they do that is another story, but every team is capable of being beat if the game plan is solid and kids execute.

I gotta see some improvement first before I start to guarantee victories. Football ain't complicated. If you can consistently run the ball and move the chains on 3rd and Short, you're going to score points. Now throw in hold onto the ball and you have a successful offense. And on defense you gotta defend against the run and stop your opponent on 3rd down. If you can do those simple things you should win your fair share of ball games.

Of course it's easier said than done. I wanna see Miami establish an identity on offense. When it's 3rd and 2 what play(2) do we know will get the first down. I don't care if the defense knows it's going to come you still are going to run it because it'll work. Last year Ga Tech did that stupid counter trap play with the lead full back all day. And Virginia drug the TE across the middle of the field into the flat. I knew and everyone else knew what was coming, but still we couldn't stop it. Or how about us on 3rd and 9. What did we do? 3 yard pass in the flat to Lance or 5 yard pass to Jenkins over the middle. Not going to cut it. That's why I have to see it first before I start believing and loudly proclaiming to the rest of the world that we're back.

lacane... oh I couldn't agree more. I meant to say that it's no hard feelings what so ever on my part. We can agree to disagree as long as we're trying to see Da U excel. I talk more thrash up here to my co-workers about Miami. And the last three years I've had to take their abuse. So until I see some positive results I'm being more cautious.

Going into a game I always see the possibility of Miami pulling out a victory. But that's just it. I'm wishing, hoping and praying for a win. I can lay out a game plan of what all Miami has to do to come out on top. Now whether they do that is another story, but every team is capable of being beat if the game plan is solid and kids execute.

I gotta see some improvement first before I start to guarantee victories. Football ain't complicated. If you can consistently run the ball and move the chains on 3rd and Short, you're going to score points. Now throw in hold onto the ball and you have a successful offense. And on defense you gotta defend against the run and stop your opponent on 3rd down. If you can do those simple things you should win your fair share of ball games.

Of course it's easier said than done. I wanna see Miami establish an identity on offense. When it's 3rd and 2 what play(2) do we know will get the first down. I don't care if the defense knows it's going to come you still are going to run it because it'll work. Last year Ga Tech did that stupid counter trap play with the lead full back all day. And Virginia drug the TE across the middle of the field into the flat. I knew and everyone else knew what was coming, but still we couldn't stop it. Or how about us on 3rd and 9. What did we do? 3 yard pass in the flat to Lance or 5 yard pass to Jenkins over the middle. Not going to cut it. That's why I have to see it first before I start believing and loudly proclaiming to the rest of the world that we're back.

My bad on the double post. Didn't think it went through the first time.

Bang-up job Manny. I'd give the class a 9. The only thing that I'd have liked to see is a TE, another CB, and another OL, but I'm glad we took the talent where it was available. Next year we get some top flight TEs and O-line and 2-3 stud RBs. We should also be fully Shannonized by then. No joke, the Canes are going to be absolutely frightening in a few years.

I just hope Marve comes on strong and has a strong season.

Thanks Mannny. Great job! And yes, I am a BEAST!!

Allen Bailey
GO CANES!!!

Manny,

On the Countdown Podcast, Great recap of NSD highlights and then the look at the juniors coming up.

You and Blustein named about tewnty five names for future recruitment. Can you do a post on that?

Thanks.

Chances are against UM winning 9 next year. This team has the potential to be great, but it will take them time to develop and mature.

Assuming we win every game we are supposed to win...(huge assumption). That leaves losses to UF, FSU, Virginia, GT, VT. The record would be 7-5. Which of the losses become wins???

IMO we won't find another 2 wins in this group. UF has too much experience to lose to us at home, the rest of the teams are physical and will catch us at a time of the year when our younger guys will be worn down physically.

This team will become great, they aren't great now...asking kids who were playing HS football last year to win 9 games in a major conference is not a reasonable expectation.

Its more likely we lose games that we are supposed to win than the opposite.

Good stuff SK8,

Those little things could be a 3-4 win swing.

Also, it'll be important or these 'Canes to show us a little something in the UF and VT games.

With all the talk of Marve or Harris being the starting QB, I think we need to think more about Cannon Smith. Yes he is undersized but look at what Reesing (Kansas) and Daniels (Missouri) accomplished last year. Lets not assume its a 2 man race. Shannon mentioned Smith in the press conference for a reason. I think Smith actually has more experience than both the front runners. Just my opinion, But i'll take my chances with Cannon Smith.

well whoever the QB is i think we as fans need to ex it and just support whoever the QB is; I just dont wanna see a talented kid end up like KW and KF did.

The QB battle has to be wide open.
I really like all of our QBs (based on HS footage though).

I am concerned about the reprecussions of the battle to be the starter. Jacory Harris has a lot of friends on this team. I just hope there isn't a QB controversy that divides the lockeroom. Wonder how RS is going to handle this one.

I would prefer to stick with one QB, but that might not be possible. Two QBs seems to be a trend in the college. I wouldn't be surprised if we went into the season with a 2 QB system. Problem is that all seem to have very similar abilities.

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