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Will the Canes open up the offense?

One of the biggest criticisms the Miami Hurricanes received after their 26-3 loss to Florida last weekend was that offensive coordinator Patrick Nix wasn't aggressive enough with his playcalling. Canes fans were upset Miami didn't throw the ball down the field more.

Coach Randy Shannon explained Wednesday it was because receivers weren't getting open and that his quarterbacks have been taught not to force the ball downfield and into turnover situations. So, what are the Canes doing to get those guys open and open the offense? And is Miami going to try and be more aggressive as the season progresses? The short answer to both questions are I'm not sure and I don't know.

Wednesday, quarterbacks Robert Marve and Jacory Harris talked for the first time since the loss. And when I asked Harris if Nix had told either him or Marve there would be a change in philosophy and more passing, he basically said "No."

Jacory_harris"Running is the strength of our team right now and with the great backs we have we're trying to establish the run first and then open up with the pass," Harris explained of UM's offensive philosophy. "We're doing the same things we've been doing since the spring and since the summer. Why tweak the offense? Make defenses adjust to us."

Robert_marveHarris and Marve were two of the most prolific passing quarterbacks the state of Florida has produced in the last two years. As a senior at Tampa Plant, Marve broke state records for yards (4,380) and touchdowns (48) before Harris topped him a year later at Miami Northwestern with 49 TD passes. While both defended Patrick Nix's playcalling, both said the decision is not up to them and they wouldn't push the issue.

"It's not a part of us," Harris said when I asked him if he'd like to be more of a gunslinger. "We never overstep our boundaries and go over the head of our authority. We understand what going on at hand. We know we have five talented running backs and we know if we run the ball eventually the passing will open up."

"What quarterback wouldn't want to throw the ball more?," Marve said. "It's whatever man. It's up to the coaches. I trust them. If Coop grabbed the ball and went for 50, we wouldn't be talking about throwing the ball more. It doesn't matter. Just get points on the board and we'll get that done."

> Contrary to fans beliefs, Marve said going to the sidelines during the second quarter at Florida Saturday actually helped him out. "No it didn't take me out [of rhythm] at all," Marve said. "It showed me what they were doing. It helped me out in seeing what I needed to do. And what I was seeing on the field was right."

> Sophomore cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke had a rough game against the Gators, getting beat on a few passing plays that led to touchdowns. There have been rumors circulating Van Dyke met with Florida coach Urban Meyer after the game and was told by Meyer he would have been better off coming to Florida (he picked UM over the Gators). Van Dyke refused to talk about it Wednesday on the record and said all he wanted to focus on was Texas A&M. There is a Gator website that reportedly has a photo of the event taking place. Sources told me it did happen.

> The same could be said for coach Shannon, who if you listen to yesterday's audio clip, will clearly see he's become annoyed with questions related to the Gators and Urban Meyer's decision to kick a late field goal. Shannon repeatedly shunned off questions by saying "all I'm talking about is Texas A&M."

> To hear everything Shannon, Van Dyke, Marve, Harris, offensive tackle Chris Rutledge and running back Derron Thomas (who will obviously have an increased role with Javarris James out) were talking about Wednesday, just check out our UM audio section.

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I'm leaving Houston due to Ike, I hope it doesn't affect the TAMU game.

First.

What kind of legal action if any can we take if Coaches our meeting with our players?

First.

What kind of legal action if any can we take if Coaches our meeting with our players?

I really want to see what Marve can do with a game under his belt. At the UF game the recievers were not open downfield.

1st?

So Manny with that being said about DVD, do u think the meeting actually took place between him and Meyer, I know u said they are rumors, but I'm aesking for your personal opinion, and do u feel as though DVD regrets coming to Miami and not choosing Florida? Do u think he may transfer?

Myers is more of a punk if he told DVD that. His time will come. UM and FSU will rule the state soon and his little team will be back to what it used to be. 3rd best

So Manny with that being said about DVD, do u think the meeting actually took place between him and Meyer, I know u said they are rumors, but I'm aesking for your personal opinion, and do u feel as though DVD regrets coming to Miami and not choosing Florida? Do u think he may transfer?

It wasn't a "meeting", Meyer and DVD shook hands at the end of the game.

He got beat all night so let him transfer if he wants.

The D is sick!!!!

If he would have gotten beat all night wouldn't the score in the first 3 quarters have reflected a little differently? I mean, im no coach here but I could have sworn that defenses tire and make mistakes the more they're on the field. Yea the kid got beat on that TD and it would be nice if he didn't but it was 1 play. Correct me if im wrong, please.

Shannon watched the film on the game and he is the person who stated "DVD got beat on a few passing plays that led to touchdowns". There was also a TD that was called back, that must of been what Shannon was talking about.

Don't worry about it, DVD will be back and better than ever!

Go Canes.

I have no doubt that Urban Liar told DVD that. He is a scumbag. Typical of him and his coaching staff to tell kids, "It's too dangerous in Miami" and such to scare kids away from the U while he was recruiting. This would only be another way for him to feel some sort of personal satisfaction after getting spanked by randy in recruiting.

I'm sure he ran into the locker room after that so Teabow could teabag him in celebration.

We lost. Plain and simple.. We did not and have not in the past 3 years developed a sound offensive plan. We have the personal but it seems the Coaches are afriad to let the boys loose. I always be a cane but it the hard times that make it difficult to back decision making that seems pee wee football coaches have a better offensive rep. than our boys. You can't win the lotto if you don't play.. So let it fly

The field goal never bothered me. I won't comment unless confirmed, but if Meyer is saying that Bill Young is not as good as UF's DC, its not only inappropriate, its plain ignorant.

As for DVD, he's not the only guy in our secondary that got beat in that game. Young will get things straightened out.

And I may be wrong, but I'd love to see D. Thomas get 20-25 carries in this game and see what he can do as "the man." He can run inside, but also seems to have some burst if he gets outside, and he has good vision. His blocking may not be very good, but he reminds me of S. McGuire, Larry Jones, James Jackson, etc. I know he's smaller than those guys, but his style seems very similar-not flashy, but always going forward. Cooper needs to be in space. I think Thomas is more of an every down back.

Thanx Manny for outing canesrule! That kid is a real problem for this blog. I would recommend having the MH IT department search his IP and block him.

Posted by: TXCane | September 09, 2008 at 10:05 AM
let the wayward gaturd be ...

MY COUNTRY TIS OF THEE

As stated above. I was not bothered with the feld goal either.

While I enjoyed Matt "The Basher" Bosher taking out guys on kick returns that should not be his duty. Where were the other special teams guys on coverage the kicks?

As as for Shannon, stop whining! If you are going to get an attitude, just get sore about losing itself, not by the field goal. How do you think Charlestown Southern feels?

Get the team to play the entire game. We used to own the 4th quarter. Get the receivers to catch balls. Get an attidue! I remember the days when the team wanted state bragging rights! We beat Florida & FSU. Now you may have to wait in line behind Florida, FSU, UCF, USF...

As for Nix, I am not completely sold on this guy, and yes we are stuck with him the rest of the year. But at least he looked fired up on the sidelines compared to Coach Robot.

And as for coddling the new QB's it seemed that the Oklahoma freshman QB last year had no problems.

This team needs to get the attitude that the opponent stadiums are their house, not just here in Miami.

So hey, you got beat. Quit complaining, learn from it and prepare to get this program back to when it was feared and it didn't matter whether the 1st string of 3 string guys were playin!

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I'm still laughing at that "Field Goal U" comment by one poster. Someone buy that guy a Michelob. Good stuff.
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Contrary to fans beliefs, Marve said going to the sidelines during the second quarter at Florida Saturday actually helped him out. "No it didn't take me out [of rhythm] at all," Marve said. "It showed me what they were doing. It helped me out in seeing what I needed to do. And what I was seeing on the field was right."
--manuelito navarro (9/11)

U play the hot hand ...
RHYTHM METHOD

Posted by: green | September 06, 2008 at 09:37 PM

who's being naive now, manuelito?
-- michael corleone

hey canechic, chilling with a charlie brown look-alike ...
diminishes Quteness quotient ...
UNBECOMING

I don't care what Shannon, Nix or anybody else says about us "hanging in there," our offense scored THREE points. Let's count- one, two, three. I don't care whether you play UF, FU, or the Chicago Freaking Bears, that's unacceptable. We've been fielding a PATHETIC offense for five years now, yet all I hear from the coaches is "this guy dropped passes" and "that guy missed blocks."

At what point do the coaches make themselves accountable? Just once, I would love to hear one of these guys say, hey, "I, me, moi, the coach, have been running a crap game plan and, furthermore, have been completely unable to teach, inspire, bully, cajole, threaten, motivate or COACH these guys into catching a pass, running a good route or making a key block."

Our motto this year is NO EXCUSES. If this Limp D**k offense keeps up, our motto next year better be YOU'RE FIRED.

DVD needs to earn the attention he is getting. As far as I am concerned he has done little to impress me thus far.

DVD won't transfer. He will be fine. If our offense could have took a little bit more time off the clock, I don't think DVD would have been beaten so much. I'm over Florida and everybody else should be too. It's just last weeks game. Done! If you've ever played a down of football, you know to just let it go. If we can run the ACC or make to the ACC championship game, we're set. The ACC is wide open. Florida fans are still posting on this site because they're shocked that we came that close with all these freshman. It's about to get ugly. If we have a good year, nobody will stand a chance of getting S. Florida players. Everything will be good. Look at the rest of our games and what those teams have done so far. Alright Florida beat a team full of freshman in the 2nd game of the season. Wow, real impressive. If that was or toughest test, we're gonna be in good shape this year. People want to see Miami. Third most watched College football game in ESPN history! Thats because of Miami, not Florida. Don't complain Florida fans because the 1st and 2nd most watched games were Miami too! Somethings brewing! STILL ALL ABOUT THE U! Thats whats up!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was actually using "field goal" as a verb but Shandel took it as a proper name. Whatever. It fits.

It read: Sweeet field goal U.

Nice to see the cryptic phrase dolt, Green, has returned with his three word nonsense.


It's all about Field Goal U.

Patrick Nix has about 5 kids I think, so he obviously has a pair of testicles. Now he just has to learn to use them for other purposes, mainly calling plays. I'm tired of hearing the excuses from the coaches about why the offense is comming along slowly. How is a QB supposed to learn from mistakes if he's not even allowed to make any?

The defense has just as many young guys as the offense. If there was a redshirt freshman starting at middle linebacker i don't think Bill Young would be as conservative with his play calling on defense as Nix is. Marve and Jacory are not Wright and Freeman (thank goodness). They seem to be able to handle pressure and rebound from mistakes. I don't want to see another OC. Nix just has to be, i mean they haven't been aggressive at all, except for that one slant pass by Jacory when miami had the ball at their own 1. Stop with all these stupid mis-direction runs all the time! The whole summer the coaches talked about the fullbacks they had to be a lead blocker, open up more holes. Use them more!

Manny do u think Shannon doesn't trust Nix to let him open up the playcalling? Or does Shannon still not know enough about offensive play calling to overrule Nix, or Is Randy the One who is being the most conservative when it comes to calling plays?

Dude,

The receivers need to step it up!

They dropped balls that would have allow us to maintain drives, especially that last one in the fourth quarter.

I HATE to say this but receivers need to run routes like that trash talker ran when he scored at the corner of the end zone. That was all him.

I don't even think nix has to open up the playbook to be successful you can still run it 70 pct of tiem and be succesful. Nix must do some playaction on fist down.You can't run the ball on first down 99 pct of time on first down. If you do you wont find any success against anyone. The worst defense in football can stop a run if they know you are always gonna run it. If nix had done playaction every 3rd or 4th first down miami could of had some big plays and beat florida. all i want is a few play action passes on first down to loosen up the d so coop and thomas can run.

Dvd does transfer to florida miami needs to file a complaint with ncaa and florida should be punished severly. If myers did talk to dvd a player on another team about going to florida instead of miami the ncaa has to do something . thats tampering and shouldn't be allowed and if meyer did that florida should be penalized.

We've been fielding a PATHETIC offense for five years now, yet all I hear from the coaches is "this guy dropped passes" and "that guy missed blocks."

At what point do the coaches make themselves accountable? Just once, I would love to hear one of these guys say, hey, "I, me, moi, the coach, have been running a crap game plan and, furthermore, have been completely unable to teach, inspire, bully, cajole, threaten, motivate or COACH these guys into catching a pass, running a good route or making a key block."

Our motto this year is NO EXCUSES. If this Limp D**k offense keeps up, our motto next year better be YOU'RE FIRED.

Posted by: jxrey | September 11, 2008 at 03:02 PM

5 years, and how many different O-Coordinators and coaches? Let's get some consistency so that these kids can learn from these guys and the play calling can improve. Doesn't matter if we throw the ball all night if guys aren't catching the ball. Then what, Tebow and the offense steps back out on the field for more time and more drives?

If you control the clock and find a way to score points then you will win games. I would have liked to see some play action passing, but the guys need to catch the balls thrown to them as well. Its the 2nd game of the season and 2nd season for Nix, can we have a little faith and give the guy a shot first? If then things don't work out we can move on, but let's have a little faith in these guys and see what happens this season. We aren't supposed to finish 2nd in the ACC let alone win it, so let's see if they can do that before winning a national title.

Patrick Nix: THROW THE F-ING FOOTBALL!!!!!
Receivers: CATCH THE F-ING FOOTBALL!!!!!!!

and as far as Meyer goes, if he is doing things the wrong way (more like when its proven), things will work themselves out.

Hey Meyer, its called Karma B!TCH and its gonna catch up to you!

I cannot believe all of the criticism of Miami's young football team. According to ESPN Saturday's game was its 3rd most watched game ever behind only 2 Miami-FSU games and ABC is showing the Miami-Texas A&M game although neither team is ranked. The whole country likes to watch Miami play. They either love them or hate them, but they all want to see them. Nix handled the game the only way he could. It was true defensive battle until the 4th quarter and Tebow, with no pressure killed the defense.

So I missed it, what did they say about the canes on jim rome is burning today? Im sure it was more thrashing on randy or some s*it.

Guys,

Listen! More than anything else we should be extremely proud of what happened in Gainesville. Keep in mind that the Hurricanes went up there UNRANKED playing a top 5 team. They were supposed to be blown out by supposedly a "superior" team. We hung in there until the 4th quarter at which point it was STILL anybody's game. Miami was not supposed to get this good this fast. Now, as a canes fan I am hoping that what we saw last saturday was NOT a flash in the pan. I am truly hoping that was the real stuff and that truly was young boys turning into men.

I do agree that Nix was being conservative with his play calling, however we must also admit that the coaches know better than us since they watch these kids practicing all the time. I think one thing that's lost in our minds is that we failed to realize that the receivers dropped a lot of catchable balls. If they make those catches and prove to the coaching staff that they can catch those 5yards catches, then the coaches would be more comfortable throwing the ball down field and it would be easier for the receivers to do a hitch and go where the play action calls would have a better chance of being successful. The coaching staff would throw more on first downs.

However, that wasn't the case. We need to take pride in knowing that in the 4th quarter it was still anybody's game. If the defense weren't too tired we could have pulled it off. All of those 3 and out didn't help the defense at all.

Let's get behind the Canes. Go support them at the OB. I am in Houston, so it's a bit hard for me to do. However, I can drive to college station to watch them play against the Aggies.

Let's put this to rest! The gators don't really have any bragging rights because they should have done much better against the Canes. We have everything to be proud of and if last Saturday is a sign of things to come then the rest of the college world needs to be on alert because there is a category 5 Huuricane brewing in South Florida.

U2cane,

Well said about giving Nix a chance. As for Meyer, I don't think he'll be around in 2013. He'll be long gone by then. However, it won't matter because we'll still be the gators and they will PAY dearly.

I'm really not worried about our offense. Not yet anyway. Only time will tell. I do believe that our coaches are doing the right thing with easing two young quarterbacks into the system. Had Nix forced Marve and Harris to throw much more at UF, errors where a possibility. That is not good to build confidence in your new quarterbacks. From the sounds of things, the players were upbeat at practice this week. That is a good sign.

GO CANES!!!

hey canechic, chilling with a charlie brown look-alike ...
diminishes Quteness quotient ...
UNBECOMING

Posted by: green | September 11, 2008 at 03:02 PM

Choke on it "faded green"...

Guys, I think some of you are coming on to strong on the Offense. yes it was not a good showing. yes the past few years have really been bad. Remember the past few years we had 2 quarterbacks that were terrible at best. We did have quality receivers to help them anyways. Our defense did not get the ball back for the offense as it has in the years we were a sound team. We have not had the players needed to get this on track until this year. We played one game against Florida in the Swamp with close to 21 freshmen and a quarterback that has never thrown a ball in a college game. Guys lets give it more than 1-2 games for this offense to get experience. We play away our next game also which will be hard on young guys.

These games will only help us when we get to the ACC portion of the schedule. Then we will have a few games under our belt and a chance to open up the offense. Lets calm down and think back on how bad this team was the past few years. Some of you are looking for changes in 1 game at the Swamp. it took time to let this team get as bad as it WAS. It will take time to get the players and the experience to get us back. I for one think this team will be fine. The Gator loss does not hurt us at all. it was not a ACC game. In fact it helped us by letting the young guys play in a VERY HOSTILE STADIUM. We will not face that kind of crowd again.

What kind of legal action if any can we take if Coaches our meeting with our players?

Posted by: Doseman | September 11, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Call CNN's Nancy Grace ...

How could the UM quarterbacks think Miami is a running team? They ran for 61 yards against UF, less than two yards/carry. Great running backs? No sign of that in the first two games. I think Miami needs to pass to open up the running game. And if you are going to run the ball, put an iota of originality into the play calling. The offensive line was supposed to be a strength this year (I don't know why anyone thought that after losing three senior OL starters) but they did not impress against Florida. Too many OL look fat and slow. With a dozen speedy receivers, you would think that Nix could call a reverse or some play that would capitalize on Miami's speed. Special teams look as poor as they were last year. If they don't perform much better next game, it is further evidence that Shannon should find an assistant coaching position where he would not have to say something stupid to the press every week. He seems not to have adopted the NO EXCUSES motto of the team. Instead of saying the receivers dropped too many balls, it would be refreshing to hear, "we were thoroughly outcoached, that's the only way to explain how we were held to 140 yards total offense." Was'nt it Shannon who said UM had the best pair of running backs in the country? Not counting CSU, Miami running backs are not in the top 100 teams.

I'm sitting here watching the UNC Rutgers game and i saw a play that UNC ranned that we also ranned back in our day and used to be a staple in UM football. A pass to the fullback in the flat. It's amazing that guy is still open. It's guaranteed for a first down of 5 yards or less. Shannon please give Shawnbrey or Chambers more carries. They are what we are lacking.

UNC just threw a 69 yard bomb on Rutgers, Miami used to do that back in the days.

Duval i was thinking the same thing when I saw that play. UNC offense is the old Canes O under Butch. Looks nice better then that garbage Nix trys to run. Nice seeing the offense use the middle of the field and actual designed plays that the whole offense executed. Creating mismatches like the way they scored on that frist td.

I haven't seen any of this from the Canes in years. Our offenses haven't executed for shyt in a long time. It's painful to watch most of the time.

I agree Utah cane fan. That's were the beginning of the downward spiral begin. We've had poor QB play since Dorsey left and luckily we had MaGahee and Gore to carry us threw the Berlin years. It's been nothing after that. I like Coop a nice change of pace back. I don't like baby J he is not Edge. We got 2 running back (Shawnbrey or L Chambers) that can open up the passing game and cover up our QB defiencies. Remember a running game is a young QB's best friend.

wish we could have rehired Butch Davis. Lookout for UNC they will become our coastal division rival, trust me.

after all these years, that was not Cokers play calling. It was Butch's offense. I just saw Yates score on a end around. I saw Santana run that same play. Let's get back to our roots. UNC looks like our CANES in 98,99 you Know what happened in 2000.

reading all your cane comments, It's clear you guys KNOW you are in trouble. Talk all the smack you want but things are starting to fester already. Don't be surprised if Butch whoops that a s s.

" If they don't perform much better next game, it is further evidence that Shannon should find an assistant coaching position where he would not have to say something stupid to the press every week. He seems not to have adopted the NO EXCUSES motto of the team."- cane fan

Teacher (Butch) schooling pupil (Schiano).

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