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Gameday blog: FSU 41, UM 39 (F)

Here's today's live blog from Dolphin Stadium as the Canes and Noles throw it down in the rain...

> UM starts with great field position in the second half at its own 43, but quickly wastes it with a 3-and-out. Marve goes 1-of-3 on the drive for 4 yards. He was 2-of-8 for 6 yards and 1 INT in the first half.
> Miami was outgained 270 to 52 in the first half with FSU picking up 16 first downs to UM's 4.
Um_logo> The Canes catch the break they needed when Antone Smith fumbles the handoff and Adewale Ojomo recovers at the FSU 18. On the next play, Travis Benjamin comes around on a reverse and scores with 13:45 left in the half. FSU 24, UM 10.
The Canes need a stop and simply can't get it. FSU runs the ball right down UM's throat again, scoring a 4-yard run by Antone Smith with 10:50 to play in the third quarter. Freshman Jermaine Thomas highlights the drive with two long runs. FSU 31, UM 10.
Another long return by Travis Benjamin gives UM great field position at the FSU 41. But Miami can only score on a 29-yard field goal by Bosher with 7:42 to play in the quarter. FSU 31, UM 13.
The Canes catch a break first with an FSU holding penalty. Then, they catch another when FSU punter Shawn Powell drops a high snap and then kicks it out of the back of the end zone for a safety with 5:50 left in the third quarter. FSU 31, UM 15.
Here come the Canes. After another nice return by Travis Benjamin to give UM possession at the UM 49, Patrick Nix calls a trick play with a swing pass to Graig Cooper. He then winds up find an open Travis Benjamin for a 51-yard touchdown pass with 5:29 left in the third quarter. We got a ballgame. FSU 31, UM 22.
FSU answers Miami again. Graham Cano drills a 35-yard field goal as time expires in the third quarter. FSU had a chance at a touchdown, but missed it when Ponder's pass to Greg Carr went off his fingertips. FSU 34, UM 22.
Miami tries to answer, but Robert Marve's pass to an open Leonard Hankerson is short and intercepted by Tony Carter at the FSU 2 to kill the drive with just shy of 11 minutes to play.
> And just when you thought this game couldn't get any wilder... Bruce Johnson blitzed Christian Ponder in the end zone, Sean Spence catches the deflection at the five and runs into the end zone for a touchdown to pull UM to within a score with 11:23 to play. FSU 34, UM 29.
Miami needs a stop -- AND FINALLY GETS IT. On third and one, UM linebacker Glenn Cook smacks Antone Smith in the backfield and FSU is forced to punt. Then, it gets wackier, a bad snap hits an upback and after the mess gets sorted out, UM gets possession at the FSU 4 with 9:03 to play.
> The Canes, however, can't cash in with a touchdown. First, an illegal substitution penalty moves UM back yards. A two-yard run by Cooper is followed by an incomplete pass into the end zone to Leonard Hankerson and pass batted at the line of scrimmage by FSU's defense. Bosher then kicks a 24-yard field goal with 8:30 left. FSU 34, UM 32.
> Florida State comes right back answers. Christian Ponder picks up a pair of first downs with his legs and Smith scores on third and goal from the UM 20 when he runs right up the middle with 3:57 left. FSU 41, UM 32.
Just when you thought it couldn't get any weirder. Jason Fox scores a touchdown on a run. You can't make this up. Problem is there are only 14 seconds left. It's onside kick time. FSU 41, UM 39.

> Miami starts freshman Sean Spence in place of Colin McCarthy at weakside linebacker. Freshman Brandon Harris gets his first career start at cornerback in place of Chavez Grant for the Canes as expected.
> Florida State gets a 43-yard kick return by Michael Ray Garvin to open the game Fsu_logoand picks up a first down on sophomore quarterback Christian Ponder's scramble. But Miami kills the drive when Bruce Johnson picks up the Canes' first interception in the secondary this season by fighting off Greg Carr in the end zone for the ball.
> Robert Marve comes out firing on UM's first possession. His first pass is a bomb that falls incomplete. His second pass gets deflected at the line and almost gets picked. His third pass does get intercepted by Tony Carter at the UM 43-yard line. Not a good start for Marve.
> FSU cashes in after a few UM mistakes. So far, it's been a tough day for Brandon Harris. He missed a tackle and then gets called for pass interference in the end zone on third down to give FSU possession at the UM 2. On the next play, Antone Smith scores on a 2-yard run to give FSU the lead with 6:54 left in the first quarter. FSU 7, UM 0.
> Miami's second possession is unspectacular. Graig Cooper gets two carries and no yards. He then catches a screen and goes nowhere on 3rd and 10. Matt Bosher's first punt of the day goes 47 yards.
> The Noles move down the field on their third possession and keep picking on Brandon Harris who misses another tackle on a pass play to Bert Reed that produces a 17-yard gain. Miami's defense though stiffens and stops FSU on fourth down at the UM 36 when Spencer Adkins knocks down Antone Smith in the backfield for a loss.
> Cooper finally gets the Canes' offense moving on drive No. 3. He picks up 10, 5 and then 13 yards and moves the Canes offense down to the FSU 35. But on the next play, Marve gets sacked for a nine-yard loss by Neefy Moffett. On the next play, FSU brings the heat again and Marve escapes before throwing an incompletion. The drive eventually fizzles and Miami pins FSU at its 11-yard line on a punt. Marve is of 1-of-6 so far on the day with 0 yards and 1 INT.
> Florida State is running right through the Canes. Christian Ponder literally runs right through the center of Miami's defense for a 55-yard run before Brandon Harris finally wrestles him down at the UM 27-yard line. Two plays later, Smith runs right up the middle for a 19-yard touchdown run with 10:08 to play. It could be a long day for the Canes. FSU 14, UM 0.
Miami's fourth possession starts like the last one finished -- with the Canes backing up. Derek Nicholson smacks Derron Thomas in the backfield for a 6-yard loss. Miami punts and FSU takes over at its own 23 after a 57-yard punt by Bosher.
> WQAM reports defensive end Eric Moncur has been taken to the locker room with a lower body injury.
> The Noles score again and this is turning into a blowout. Greg Carr hauls in a 15-yard pass from Ponder in front of Bruce Johnson, capping a 9-play, 77-yard drive with 3:24 left. Brandon Harris got flagged for pass interference on the drive to keep it alive. Antone Smith continues to blow past UM's defense on the drive, picking up big chunks. FSU 21, UM 0.
And the big return Randy Shannon predicted from Travis Benjamin finally happens. He takes the ensuing kickoff 59 yards to the FSU 38-yard line before Michael Ray Garvin takes him down. Jacory Harris comes in at quarterback and immediately gets smacked for a 9-yard loss. Two plays later, Florida State gets the ball back when Harris gets pressured and Dekota Watson picked off the pass at the FSU 42-yard line.
> FSU adds three with a 53-yard field goal by Graham Gano with 1:03 to play. Another key play on the drive involves freshman Brandon Harris, who gets beat. FSU 24, UM 0.
> Jacory Harris finally gets Miami's offense on the board. He moves UM downfield with a 20-yard pass to Leonard Hankerson. Moments later, Hankerson had a drop in the end zone. Three plays later, Matt Bosher comes in and kicks a 28-yard field goal as time expires. FSU 24, UM 3.

It's time to throw it down. The Canes and Noles will smash heads this afternoon at Dolphin Stadium at 3:30 p.m. The game will be broadcast regionally on ABC and ESPN2, which shows you how far this rivalry has fallen in the last few years. Not much. I know some folks say this rivalry doesn't matter anymore. It may not be the best game anymore, but I guarantee you it still will be one of the top two or three rated games of the weekend.

ESPN's Lee Corso said on College Gameday this week these programs will never get back to where they used to be. I disagree. In two years, Miami and FSU could both be ranked in the Top 5 when they meet at Dolphin Stadium again. There are so many young, talented players on both of these teams. I think the worst is in the past for both of these programs.

OK, now that I got that off my chest, its time to get you get ready for kickoff. Before we get to this week's Market Report, here are my keys to the game for a Canes' victory.

1. Take advantage of the youth and inexperience on FSU's offensive line: The depth chart will show you FSU starts three freshman and two sophomores on its front line. But the truth is the Noles have two starters in right guard Rodney Hudson (14 starts) and center Ryan McMahon (16 starts) who aren't pushovers. Both were freshmen All-Americans. Miami has to attack the right guys today -- that's the right side of this line where Will Furlong and Zerbie Sanders are. Not only do the Canes need to do a better job putting pressure on the quarterback. But they also have shut down FSU's running game up the middle. Joe Joseph, Marcus Forston, Dwayne Hendricks and Antonio Dixon have to show up today.

Robert_marve2. Protect Robert Marve: Florida State's run defense is one of the best in the country and I'm expecting them to do a good job slowing down UM's running game, which is already without Javarris James. That means Robert Marve is likely going to have to deliver the big plays on offense today. So far this season, Marve has had plenty of time to throw. I expect FSU to turn up the heat today. The Noles have 13 sacks in four games this season. Remember what Kyle Wright's first start was like? Nine sacks. If Marve feels to much heat, turnovers are bound to happen. Marve is going to get dirty today. He just has to have some time to make plays.

3. Win in the Red Zone: Miami-Florida State games always come down to who best takes advantages of their scoring opportunities. Field position is always huge. But even bigger is what you do with the football when you have a chance to score. So far, Miami has done a great job in the red zone. They've scored 87.5 percent of the time, second best in the ACC. The Canes simply can't afford to have a dropoff today. Defensively, UM has to step up its game. We saw what happened when North Carolina got in the red zone last week. They scored every time. Miami needs at least one or two stops this week.

Buy 'em
> Robert Marve, quarterback: Nobody is going to have a bigger impact on today's game for the Canes than Marve. You could say that for every game. But I really feel he's going to have to shoulder the load today. So far, Miami has shown great balance in its playcalling. Last week, it was an even 33-33 run/pass. I expect UM to have to throw the ball a little more today. And I'm calling for Marve to be the star.
Eric_moncur> Eric Moncur, defensive end: Since coming back from injury and the death of his mother, Moncur has had moments where he's starred. He had the interception against Texas A&M. Last week, he was one of two Canes to have a sack against Carolina. Today, he'll be starting opposite freshman left tackle Andrew Datko, a kid who was on St. Thomas Aquinas' state championship team a year ago. I'm picking Moncur to eat him up and lead UM's defensive charge.

On The Bubble
> Sean Spence, linebacker: Guess who is going to take the majority of the snaps in place of the injured Colin McCarthy. The star freshman has all the hype. Today is his opportunity to back it up. I expect the Noles to come running right at him. If Spence has a good day, UM should have a good day. If he struggles, the Noles could have another huge day on the ground. Spence needs to step up today.
> Tyrone Byrd, right tackle: If FSU is going to come after anyone on Miami's offensive line its Byrd, who will start in place of the injured Reggie Youngblood. Chris Rutledge will also see time at tackle. But today is the day Byrd, a fifth-year senior, has to play his best game as a Cane. If he and Rutledge struggle, it could be a long day for Marve and Miami's offense.
> Brandon Harris, cornerback: According to the depth chart we got today and following what we heard this week from practice, Harris will get his first real start at corner today opposite Bruce Johnson. He's played only nickelback this year. Considering UM's secondary woes, there is going to be a lot of pressure on Harris to have a good day today. And you better believe FSU is going to try and come after him.

Trade 'em in
> Richard Gordon, tight end: Last week, Gordon had two balls thrown his way and he dropped both of them. I'm expecting Chris Zellner and Dedrick Epps to see the majority of snaps today at tight end.

> My prediction -- UM 20, Florida State 19: In traditional UM-FSU fashion, I expect this game to come down to the final moments. Ultimately, I believe Marve will be the difference. I see the Canes coming from behind late to take the lead and then finishing this week to stay above .500. FSU is going to miss a field goal when it matters.

> Now, it's time for your predictions, your stars of the game and keys to the game... Share...


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i thought marve was pretty good but i think im ready to see what jacory can do. i honestly think jacory would have won this game even with the horrible defense. i hate to say it but marve is starting to remind me of kyle a little bit. the team looks more relaxed with jacory in imo.

The Who is officially fighting with FIU to be the worse team in the state of Florida. LMAO! Even sorry F$U is kicking the Who's ass! Scum stink!

I hope they don't fire the Cry Baby Shannon. I want to see the WHO to continue losing over and over and over again like they are this season... bwahahahahahaha!!!!!

Cryami is right back were they were last year! Losing! Bwahahahaha!!!!!

Would NCAA rules allow us to flog a player with a bamboo stick 20 times every time he drops a ball?

This game is kooky.

I never thought I would see the day, but Shannon is pathetic....why we never rolled out the quarterback??? Coaching on this time is pathetic.

2-3..screw the bcs .. we need to learn how to finish a game..we gave the friggin game away. We were on the four and couldn't score. bad play calling on that drive and bad defense bill young..

I guess I was wrong.. They do have fight.. I'm proud of them for hangin' in there.


We had no business being in this game. Oh, well. Another losing season... FIRE RANDY SHANNON!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!


You guys have it easy... I live in Tally and I'm already getting calls from FSU fans.

win or lose, this proves fsu isnt really getting better either. why is this- 2 teams from not that long ago, cant get even CLOSE to the good years. all i can say is coaching is the biggest part. i think fisher will NOT be the answer for fsu. shannon is NOT the answer for um. its going to be a long 2-3 years cause randy is cheap and the univ. will not fire him so sit back, relax, and hope for change

The biggest issue I had was after we scored a touchdown we did not decide to go for two. I believe, the score was 31-21 and we decided to kick a meaningless extra point.

Defense was horrible...where were all these great Bill Young schemes we keep hearing about? Marve looked like a deer in the headlights the entire game and Brandon Harris really showed his inexperience will all those penalties. Thank goodness for Travis & Aldarius. I'm concerned that we are heading into the losing slide like last year. I know this team is young and Randy can recruit, but this team had no energy or enthusiasm today.

Andre 9 pts or 10 pts we still needed 2 scores and if we missed the 2 pts we were 11 points and it had 2 be 2 tds not a td and a fg

tally cane- thank you. at the OB against virginia- when um got killed- i said the same thing. ive been saying it since- im not happy i was right but when this team quit, shannon quit- that was all i could stand. 40 plus years in the OB, and to leave it like that- i would have fired him then, but hes cheap so until they want to pay for a real coach no bowls-few wins and lots of frustrations

Bill Young has gotten a pass because of Patrick Nix's bonehead play calling. I think it's time for Mr. Young to answer some questions.

its a young team. new coaches. give them time.

hes a young qb against a stellar defense.

I don't know who to hang this on.

I see other teams with a lot less "talent": 1. make adjustments; 2. coach up their players; 3. run formations(O & D) that complement their personnel.

I know it was the coaching staff that didn't adjust in the first half. And it was definitely the staff that didn't have the team motivated in the first half.

Very puzzled but am somewhat happy the guys didn't fold. Now to wait for the "Shannon quote machine": 1. We're almost there; 2. We're making good plays; 3. We're turning the corner. And even the players are also buying into these sound bites now.

Marve = Next Sam Bradford (remember him?)
Shannon = Next Tyrone Willingham
Nix = Next Charlie Strong (making defenses look amazing!)

About miami fans!


I know the team is young, but please! My dead grandma can do better pass coverage that the Canes' DBs and safeties. It is really unforgiveable that Seminoles QB Ponder can run around Miami's defense for a whopping 8.1 yards per carry. When Miami allows a team to convert 11 out of 17 third down plays, it shows the team has no defense. Folks, this team is pretty bad defensively and it is going to be another two years before the Canes can compete against good teams. I hate to say it because I admire the guy, but I think Shannon is getting outcoached.

Forget everything else. Gotta score a TD from the 4. Gotta get a stop on 3rd and 20.

You guys are funny. I heard a lot of quitters out there. We are who we are. That's it.

I came to this blog to rally with you guys for the 'Canes. Wasn't happening. I'm better off in a bar.

Gotta order my Va Tech tickets. Later.

Hurricane Moe-

The difference in the game, if we converted on the 2 point conversion, would have been 8- making it a one possession game (after the last touchdown we would have had the possibility of tying the game). The decision made no sense.

When it was 31-21, why didn't the "U" go for 2 at that point? They go for 2 and make it at that point and for 2 at the end of the game then it is tied going into OT. Scratched my head on that one.

WE SUCK !!!!! defense should be ashamed !!! and coachs?????? shannon BTW you last second down the ball display looked like a girl in the stands , show emotion and get rdy for those things and be proactive not reactive this Is unreal another BS season WTF is your excuse this time??????

When will you all say try JACORY i watched this kid for 2yrs he is good.

I'm disappointed in the outcome, but Griese made a very smart comment, you had an experienced defense playing against freshman receivers who were in high school last year, and experienced receivers for FSU playing against an inexperienced secondary and they should win that battle.

The Young Canes played against a solid experienced FSU in matchups that didnt favor them and they got baptized by fire. Brandon Harris, learned some tough lessons today, but he will get better and they receivers will get some experience from going against good defenses.

These are growing pains that should be expected with this team, they will show flashes of brilliance but they will show the inexperience as well.

The future looks very bright for these kids and I applaud that they continued to play the game and didnt quit down 21.

Keep Your Heads Up Canes...

This is all that needs to be said. Where is Randy?

1 Bob Stoops $6,500,000
2Pete Carroll $4,400,000
3Charlie Weis$4,200,000
4 Les Miles $3,751,000
5Nick Saban $3,750,000
6Jim Tressel$3,500,000
7Urban Meyer $3,400,000
8Kirk Ferentz$3,030,000
9Mack Brown$2,910,000
10Bobby Petrino $2,850,000
11Tommy Tuberville$2,825,000
12Mark Richt$2,800,000
13 Rich Rodriguez$2,500,000
14Bobby Bowden$2,500,000
15Philip Fulmer$2,400,000
16Mark Mangino$2,300,000
17Greg Schiano$2,250,000
18Mike Bellotti$2,100,000
19Frank Beamer$2,100,000
20Butch Davis $2.100,000
21June Jones$2,000,000
22Al Groh$1,875,000
23 Gary Pinkel$1,875,000
24 Tommy Bowden$1,850,000
25 Jeff Tedford$1,850,000
26 Mike Sherman $1,800,000
27 Art Briles$1,800,000
28 Joe Tiller$1,800,000
29 Steve Spurrier$1,800,000
30 Ralph Friedgen$1,750,000
31 Mike Leach$1,750,000
32 Houston Nutt$1,700,000
33 Sylvester Croom$1,700,000
34 Paul Johnson$1,600,000
35 Joe Paterno $1,500,000
36 Randy Edsall$1,500,000
37 David Cutcliffe ACC $1,500,000

38 Randy Shannon $1,500,000


Okay am I going crazy or did we get screwed on time at the end of the game. A Johnson went out of bounds with 2 minutes left on the clock yet the clock keep ticking away and nobody said a damn word. Did any one else see this??

pahetic pathetio pathetic

Sam Shields: go home. clean the kitchen, wash your daddys car, but you aint no football player

Hankerson. You are soft. You let that db rip the ball out of your hands.

DBS- you all suck

Jacorry: you aint ready son. Mr football or no. This is big time and you showed you aint big time yet, no matter how much Israel Gutierrez tries tio make you think you are.

UM players; You didnt give up. Good. But 1st and goal on the 4 and you cant get it in? Sorry. LAst time thathappened, Kyle Wright was qb. We havent made any progress. This team is horrible. Coaches are horrible.

Kirby Hocuttt: man up and fire Randy Shannon.

like last year, the question is when you have new coaches, young players. isnt it the getting BETTER each week that gives people hope. all i see is the same as last year, no growth whatsoever. the university needs to call an emergency meeting now, and start the process to find a solution to this before all the talent is wasted. FIRE SHANNON NOW

All this hype about Brandon harris. Youknow, mayybe these South Florida players are just all hype. I mean, I see Mizzou lighting it up, Oklahoma with a young qb averaging almost 50 points a game. South Florida. I mean this is just plainpathetic guys. No excuses. In fact, Randy Shannon, I dont even want to hear what you have to say. Just shut the f up and go home.

I'm with deland cane.

Kirby hocutt: I donate lots o' $ to UM. I will stop if you dont do something. This makes me want to puke

Maybe after Auburn loses to Vandy we can hire Tuberville. Oh, wait a minute... We probably can't afford to pay him. He makes over 1 million more a year than Shannon. I guess I'll need to go to plan B.

Tally cane- you can pay RS 4 million a year and he will still be the same dumba$$

jaime you r a idiot jacory is ready marve is making this team lose ball games jacory was the one who put the points on the board where was marve oh yeah throwing interceptions like kyle wright did last year son

I agree. I might be a homer but I think Miami is a top 10 program overall (5 titles in the last 25 years). College football has changed. We have to get an upper tier coach. Shannon and Coker are nothing but lifetime assistant coaches.

Maybe the Cleveland Browns will fire their staff and Rob Chudzinski can take over as OC. We haven't been the same since he left. I know we had good players then but there is a reason he is an OC in the NFL.


Appreciate your donations to the program and I understand you are upset. However, it is wrong to say Jacory is not ready for the big time when your starting quarterback Marve goes 17-40, 123 yards, 3.1 per attempt, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, and 2-14 on third down conversions. Sorry, I am not sure Marve is ready for the big time. That is three out of four ( I think) games of less than 150 yards passing.

What's with all the complaining. The current generation of Cane's fans have no heart. Yeah, losing sucks, but that's life. You win some you lose some. I was at UM during the probation years. We lost more than we won, but the team and the fans were still all about the U. It was as much about the game being played as the end result.

The things I want to see in UMiami players (at this stage) are heart and fight. I see a ton of that, along with a lot of talent. We get punched in the mouth and we punch you right back. We don't quit and we don't run for cover. Maybe we don't win in the end, but we came to play.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big believer in moral vicories, either you win or you lose. However, you've got a lot of young guys trying to bring it together, without the benefit of a lot of tough nosed/talented upper-classmen to help show them the ropes, and help them get better. You've also got a coaching staff that needs to figure out how to work together and use the talent they've got. Right now, we're doing a hell of a lot better (in terms of game stats) than we were last year, and showing a lot more gameness. I think the current students and alumni need to get behind The U and show their support and pride because they love the U. Give these kids something to fight for, and show them we're with them come hell or high water.


Posted by: Tally Cane | October 04, 2008 at 07:52 PM

Unless you guys are throwing $500 or more to the University, a small private University, like I have been every year for over 25 years now, DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SPENDING.

Yes, there is something wrong. We rely heavily on contributions, and don't get it. You can't even compare the resources of the SEC schools and State schools and ND to ours.

Now I'm outta here.

I think it was clear who was prepared for this game. I can't wait for the blame game from Randy. He needs to put some of that on the coaches and not just the kids. They are the students, the coaches are the teachers.

I dont want to hear this crap about "almost winning", "the kids did good".....No S##T! Accountability people.....no winning record this year either.

You keep hearing it's not the X's and O's, it's John's and the Joe's. Horsecrap. Look at the teams that are doing better than us. You tell me they have more talent. I think not.

I'm not screaming, "Fire Randy" yet but this is getting old. Receivers still dropping passes. My god, how do you miss a blitzing player on consecutive plays. The gadget plays were entertaining but FSU didn't have to use any. The red zone defense? Anyone see where it went to? I was getting tired of listening to Paul "Sausage Fingers" Maguire make his dumbazz jokes. Why is that guy still on TV...he sux...but thats another story.

Bottom line. I'm tired of losing the games we are supposed to win. No more excuses. Prepare the kids to play DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Way to catch on to what everyone else has been preaching since the day U hired your 4th choice coach!

randy is just wrong - PERIOD!

"Now I'm outta here." - NJshoreCane

U must have been 1 of the 22,000 fans in attendance who said the same thing halfway through thr second quarter.


In my heart of hearts why you hate, I could have said it better myself except I said it myself already, “igfnore da U”. Just as the 22,000 Miami fans who made into the Fish House did by leaving before halftime. For the record, exactly as I predicted.

Also, just as I predicted, another loss to FSU in the who’s more mediocore headline game in our very own trap conference. It’s about time they create a new division just for Duhhhh ACC - The Bowl Ineligible Subdivision.

Mark my words, Randy is enroute to, dare I say, another 5-7 season.

i dont think jharris could have saved the game,though i liked how he played. but sometimes the change does good for the guys in the huddle. i think they are even as talent goes, but without a coach, they will be just like they are now. the receiver cant catch. that is not youth, they were receivers in high school. they just cant catch. shields is proof, time doesnt make you a better receiver. why is he even playing.FIRE SHANNON NOW

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