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Shannon: "Do we have a long way to go? Yeah"

Just got back upstairs from the the postgame locker room scene here at Dolphin Stadium where it is still pouring rain and there are still Canes fans hanging around, dumbfounded at this loss.

Florida State ran for 281 yards Saturday afternoon. Sophomore quarterback Christian Ponder led the way with 144 yards, becoming the first quarterback to eclipse the 100-yard rushing mark against the Canes since Virginia Tech's Bryan Randall did it in 2002.

Randy_shannon_actionI expected lots of anger and frustration following a loss in which Miami fell to 2-3 and 0-2 in the ACC. But I honestly didn't get that sense from players or coach Randy Shannon. I'm not saying there wasn't disappointment. But I got the sense players were actually proud of their second-half rally and content with the effort. It certainly wasn't doom and gloom, which I figure is what most of you are feeling.

Here's what Shannon told reporters: "It was a tough loss tonight. It was a great game. Both teams did a great job of finishing. I thought that we did a lot of great things and a lot of bad things tonight. Offensively, we couldn't get the run game going. We kind of struggled with that early in the game. We gave the ball to Graig Cooper early, but we couldn't get the run game cranked up the way we needed to. Our passing game started off sharp and crisp. They were doing a lot of good things. Then they started picking up blitzes and we made some plays of that. Defensively, we weren't able to hold them consistently. We got them to third down a lot of times, but then we couldn't get off the field. The special teams were tremendous. I thought that was the one phase of the game that kept us in it and gave us the opportunity to win. Special teams is the thing that you always say gives you the chance to win the game. That was the one phase we felt going into the game we had the opportunity to capitalize on. We did and it almost gave us a chance to win the game."

"Do we have a long ways to go? Yeah, I think so because we've got to win the game. I'm not going to make excuses for it. We're going to coach these guys hard. We're going to get these guys back to where they need to be. We're going to teach these guys what it takes to win the game and finish."

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Cat5 cane,

I completely agree. it gets rather tiring reading all the whining from these "real fans". All we have to do is look at what we had with Butch. He took over in 95, it took him 5 YEARS to learn how to coach. By 99, he had the team turned around, had his players in the system and started to show progress.

When you look at the big picture, the Freshman are making all the plays. FRESHMAN people! Think about the glory years. How many Freshman do we remember starting? KC Jones, Ray Lewis, Reggie Wayne? That's right, MAYBE one or two per year. At this point, this team has four to five on each side of the ball.

This team has some bad upperclass talent. This year's recruiting class truly was the best in the nation and at this point, I would even consider them under-rated when you watch what these guys are doing.

We haven't seen a play maker like Benjamin this early since Kevin Williams in '91. Remember, outside special teams Hester couldn't figure the playbook on either side of the ball and that has not changed now that he is in his 3rd year of the NFL.

We have some special talent and we should give Randy time. Trust me, I am not happy to see teams like Fresno State, Vanderbuilt, UConn and even my alma matter USF all ranked while we are 0-2 in our conference.

However, Randy has locked down on South Florida for recruits, he is not afraid to play the best player and this team is competitive. They will learn how to close and win the close games. We need to remain patient, this team is just young.

Go Canes!

The receivers didn't fight for the ball Hankerson at the goal line and Jones didn't run hard at the ball and let Rolle almost pick the ball off. Benjamin needs to be on the feild along with Johnson and Byrd.

It's gonna takes time for this team to start playing for four quarters.For some of the freshmens the speed of the game is a lot faster, teams has just as much speed than we do.I agree play your best players and get them that game experience that they will need for the rest of the year and upcoming seasons.

Manny, I have a suggestion for the Herald... why not set up 2 boards. One for the complainers and the other for real fans

Real fans...Speak up!

Posted by: Cat5 Cane | October 05, 2008 at 08:52 AM

I'm with you Cat.

Take a step back, guys and look at some of the things we did on O and Specials. You wanted Nix to mix it? He did. You wanted TB? You got him.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE 1999 SEASON, GUYS.

You guys call me out and a whiner and complainer, but tell me if there was anything I said that wasn't accurate. Just because I see what you blind A** critics refuse to accept, that makes me a hater? Whatever! Fantasyland is cartoons and you guys come straight out of storybook. We'll get better but it is what it is. Our defense is terrible and the league knows how to attack it (through the air). It is simple: Max protect the qb or roll the pocket, then throw it to whoever! That's the blueprint to beat Miami. When our D-line gets more pressure and the secondary gets totally "de-cokerized", we'll see the results. Our expectation should be at this point for this season, "bowl eligibility".

Call me a hater all you want, you can't run from the reality.

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You People who want Shannon fired make me laugh. I've said to you all week nobody wanted this job. Yesterday Miami tried to open up things on offense and we got burned for it but last week everybody was belly aching about how the offense was too conservative. I agree the coaching yesterday was questionable but if you had to give a game ball to a losing team I'd give it to the HEART that those kids showed yesterday. Enjoy Sean Spence for the next 3 years because he will be a 1st rounder in the 2011 NFL Draft as well as a few other of the plyers. The rest of the season is very promising and I know we will be in a bowl this year !!!!

Oh and in 1999, butch had 5 classes of recruiting disciplined athletes. In his 3rd season at UM (1997), we went 5-6. So it takes time, but he knew he didn't have enough true ballers (scholarship reduction) and had a lot of walk-ons as a result. RS will get better as a coach. He and Nix proved the offense could adjust and they put up points in the 2nd half. Bill young is trying to make chicken soup out of chicken s**t. And that's what the secondary is right now. Pure good ol' chicken ****!

I am not down on the Canes, I think they are playing better and competing. They have to keep playing and not get down on themselves. I firmly believe that if Miami just rolled the ball out on the field, they have enough talent to win 8 games.

Shannon needs to just let those young guys have fun and play. Let the young guys make the mistakes and it will be easier to teach the following week. The problem is these guys feel they have to play perfectly to win.

You can't win playing scared.

Here is the deal about Nix, Miami doesn't have a sound offense. Miami can not score a TD without trick/gotcha' play, short field, or defensive/special teams score.

On Defense, they seem to be holding on to what they did against Florida. Their problem is that they are thinking and not playing - Miami needs to simplify the Defense, especially the secondary because they seem to be not prepared. As a whole the defense is an easier fix, because it is basic stuff - getting off blocks, tackling on the edges, making plays behind the line of scrimmage, and competing.


Our receivers play 'small'...They don't go UP for the ball...they wait for it....

quit complaining and just go to the games and cheer. This is what our team needs. Half the idiots on these sites don't support the team until their 10 - 1 and in the top 10. I'm so tired of all these lousy S FLA fans. Same story for the other teams (Dolphins, PAnthers, Heat, Marlins). Second rate fans!!!!! If you want a winner, how about moving to Gainsville for College football, then go to Detroit for hockey, then fly to Dallas or Ny for pro football.

quit complaining and just go to the games and cheer. This is what our team needs. Half the idiots on these sites don't support the team until their 10 - 1 and in the top 10. I'm so tired of all these lousy S FLA fans. Same story for the other teams (Dolphins, PAnthers, Heat, Marlins). Second rate fans!!!!! If you want a winner, how about moving to Gainsville for College football, then go to Detroit for hockey, then fly to Dallas or Ny for pro football.

Sole possession of LAST PLACE in the ACC and are one of the worst teams in Florida. FIU and FAU and the Canes. Congrats!!!

You see what Nick Saban is doing in YEAR 2??? You dont see the excuses going around of being too young.

The Canes are a team of EXCUSES. Both Florida and Florida State are just as young but all you hear is the young excuse.

The truth. RANDY SHANNON is in WAYYYYYYYY over his head. He isnt a head coach. He is a coordinator and that is it. Start donating money and hire a real, proven head coach instead of a cheap, coordinator, who has proven to be Ron Zook without the emotion.

All the other Florida schools are PRAYING Randy Shannon is given a LONNNNGGGG chance. Keep that guy there forever!!!

7-10 under Shannon. Forget NC or ACC champ and just try and get back to .500

Good thing you got Temples and Charleston Southerns on the schedule.

quit complaining. Half you idiots don't even go to the games. Like most S Fla fans, no one attends until you're in the top 10 or in the playoffs. If you don't attend EVERY game and you actually still live in S Florida. quit complaing

Coach Shanon needs to start on getting on the refs ears, he is too nice to the refs on the side lines.We are getting kill by the zebras this year.Yesterday there was a lot miscalls. And What happened to Mcneil and Mckenzie ?.These kids are going to transfer next year.

Our expectation should be at this point for this season, "bowl eligibility".

Call me a hater all you want, you can't run from the reality.

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Posted by: 242 Cane | October 05, 2008 at 10:04 AM

242,

So what has changed from August? Sounds like your expextations for this team were a little high to start.

I thought 8-4 or 7-5. That we'll win some we shouldn't, and lose some we shouldn't. In any case, with the young guys, it'll be pretty crazy.

Your "reality" is overstating the obvious. Did you think this was going to be a 10-win team?

This is not an argumentative tone, I'm just asking the question.

Sam Shields should never see the field again...he's just not a good player.

Brandon Harris had a tough day, but he probably learned a lot. B. Harris can play and he'll be back.

Sean Spence - beast, this guy has to be on the field as a starter.

One thing I find curious...what happened to the defense that stuffed Florida for 3 quarters???

This group is nowhere near as aggressive as we were that night. I thought the run defense was the one thing we could count on.

Shula left Bama loaded with talent. Saban has been a Head ball coach for years. RS is learning. FSU is only young at qb. There is experince on that team. Plus their front seven is of the best in football.

Losing to both Florida and Florida State in one year. Shannon keeps adding to his coaching resume. When was the last time that happened?

Shannon is a stud. Keep him there forever!!!

So you complainers are right there and you don't get to the stadium??

You complainers don't donate to the schoool?

FB attendance and contribution $ are major sources of revenue, which UM is lacking. Where does the money come from for the next "big hire".

See you at VT, NC ST, and the Bowl Game.


It took me a while to get over my anger & pay off all the bet I lost on this game, but I am proud of my Canes. I just have a couple of observations though. 1) If I heard correctly in 18 trips into the redzone by a U opponent they have 16Td's and 2 FG Bad, Bad Bad. 2)Sam Shield should be paying to go the dade county CC or somewhere else because he may just be the worst Hurricane receiver since they gave up on Ryan Hill. 3)These are freshmen that are going to get us back to winning Sears Trophies, remember some of the more highly touted aren't even play like Arthur Brown.

Fianlly I support every last one of the U coaches with the notable exception of Nix, we need to ditch the spread and bring in someone who can coach a proset like we have run for years.

GOOOOOOOOO Canes and God help the Bears.

we made fsu qb ponder look like tebow at his best out there. maybe this is simplifying things too much but couldn't you adjust and put in a defense similar to what we had against florida in week 2???

as for the offense, its still terrible. the line couldnt block, pickup blitzes, etc. The play calling sorry to say is still terrible. With no time for Marve how bout some quick passes like slants instead of all these bubble screens, etc. Even the huge pass interference was called off because the ball didnt cross the line of scrimmage!!!

The only positive is that we found or finally validated two playmakers in Benjamin on Off/ST and Spence on Def. Brandon Harris will be good but he was just picked on all night. On the false start that saved him from that embarrassing TS, I told my buddy look at him out there they are going right at him and voila.

SHOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE....

Cane fans, just for once in your life please admit you were beaten by a better team, who dominated you from the start, on this one particular day.

With the exception of the forced interception of Ponders pass for a TD and the one long drive in which FSU helped you with 3 or 4 penalties, you were dominated on offense and on defense. You never stopped FSU's offense and forced only 2 FSU punts all game and we know how those turned out.

Without these, the canes highlight real consisted of 2 trick plays.

The only reason you were even in the game at the end was due to the Seminoles self destruction on special teams with the punts and the kickoff coverage.

This game should never have been this close.

Nevertheless congratulations in making it look respectable.

Also please stop saying how young your team is because so is FSU's.

If you would ever man up to this, then I would congratulate you, I would shake your hand, and I would say see you next year and good luck with the rest of your season.

But since canes have never and will never admit they lost to the better team and accept defeat graciously you force your opponents to disrespect you and say things like

SUCK ON IT scUM THUGS!

Mark my words, Randy is enroute to, dare I say, another 5-7 season.

Even I must admit our game was a classic for the ages in how not to play the entire 60 minutes. I thought we would have learned that lesson from the Gators smacking us down and to quote our own 4th choice coach "running up the score on us".

- The ACC crew however saved the Noles

- Phantom pass interference calls

- AWFUL officiating again by the ACC crew

- AWFUL coaching again by both teams

- The Noles are a top 15 team and in my own mind Duhhh U is #1 even though we haven't been ranked in over 2 years

WE ARE EXCUSE U & WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY IN LAST PLACE IN THE WORST CONFERENCE IN THE NATION!!!!

YAHHOOOOO!! WE ARE DUMBFOUNDED AT THIS LOSS & WILL BE BY THE REMAINING 4 STILL TO TAKE PLACE THIS SEASON.

A 5-7 REPEAT!

Shannon: "Do we have a long way to go? Yeah! Is there any way we can transfer back to the Big Easy? Hopefully!"

16-18

U JOINED A MEDIOCRE CONFERENCE WITH LIMITED COMPETITION & U LOSE WEEK IN & WEEK OUT!

IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE!

I don't see why some of you are coming down on Randy Shannon, we did come back in the second half. Its not like we got blown out of the stadium.

Granted, FSU had us completly figured out in the first half....it happens. We adjusted in the second half and came back. Once again, we couldn't stop the run and ended up losing a close game.

"I'm not going to make excuses for it" - Shannon

Preceded by.......

- Offensively, we couldn't get the run game going

- We couldn't get the run game cranked up the way we needed to

- Defensively, we weren't able to hold them consistently

- We got them to third down a lot of times, but then we couldn't get off the field


IT WAS RAINING & WE ARE EXCUSE U

I'M TIRED OF HEARING FIRE SHANNON. SINCE THE UF GAME LOSERS ON THIS BLOG HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR SHANNONS HEAD, THATS LUDICROUS. FOOTBALL IS A MARATHON NOT A SPRINT, SHANNON IS REBUILDING THE CANE NATION WITH TALENTED YOUNG MEN. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A CANE HAS BEEN IN TROUBLE??? ITS NOT EVEN HALF WAY THROUGH HIS SECOND SEASON, YES WE ALL KNOW THAT SHANNON NEEDS TO COACH BETTER, BUT I GUARANTEE THAT HE KNOWS IT TOO. RANDY WILL IMPROVE AS-WELL AS THE TEAM. COMPARE HIM TO SABAN ALL U WANT, BUT CONSIDERING THE CURRENT STATE OF UM AND THE FUTURE THERE IS NO OTHER COACH OR YOUNG TEAM I WOULD RATHER HAVE THEN TODAYS MIAMI HURRICANES. GET A GRIP, NO NEED FOR ANOTHER BAILOUT CANE NATIONS FUTURE IS BRIGHT.

"CONSIDERING THE CURRENT STATE OF UM AND THE FUTURE THERE IS NO OTHER COACH I WOULD RATHER HAVE" - Pass The Bong

Amusing, as the feeling was NOT mutual from Duhhhh U's first three head coaching choices whom all ran in the other direction. May have something to do with your "current" 7-10 record since U hired your 4th choice coach.

ANOTHER SUB 500 SEASON

canesrule,

IF YOU GONNA QUOTE ME, QUOTE ME CORRECTLY...

CANE NATION IS THANKFUL THAT THE OTHER COACHES PASSED ON THE JOB. SHANNON WILL PROVE TO BE THE PERFECT CHOICE.

"SHANNON WILL PROVE TO BE THE PERFECT CHOICE" - Pass The Bong

"THATS LUDICROUS" - Pass The Bong Again

U know how our fair weather fans hate to travel to away games....... Randy's habit of leading us to bowl ineligibilty is actually viewed as a plus. A perfect fit.

LAST PLACE IN THE ACC RULES

1)fire nix
2)fire mcgriff
3)change the strength and conditioning plan
4)bench marve n play jacory harris

Larry coker destroyed the program. no qb recruits for 3 years and 2 years with no wr's. HELLO, Randy has had 1 top class in the nation, and the 07 class he finished from cokers recruitng. we were bare----BARE---By 2010, our Freshman studs are Juniors and we would have 2 more top recruiting classes in---We have the #1 back in the nation coming in BROWN(#1 on Rivals and #1 on Scout) and have 3 ESPN 150 players at DB- a new blog said he we have the best DB's in the 09 class so far----What has been posted is we have no DBS-- well, harris is a freshman and many are coming. PEOPLE----Look at the 02.03.04 Gators, the zookster brought all that talent in but they lost close games, when the studs were juniors, they started winnning and meyer kept reloading., In 2010, all our studs will be 3rd year players, and randy can handpick the true freshman to play like the old days instead of having to play all of them.

How in the world was benjamin rated a 4 star, this kid is 5 star all the way. Maybe we will play arthur brown now? he was raited as the #1 LB in nation, ahead of spence. We already have 3 losses, why not unload all the true fresh and get them experience. f it.

Here are our top 6 on the ESPN RECRUIT RANKINGS- POS HT WT SCHOOL RANK GRADE STATUS NOTES
Bryce Brown RB 6-0 215 East H.S. (KS) RB #3 85 Verbal
Prince Kent CB 6-2 193 Norcross H.S. (GA) CB #3 83 Verbal
Brandon McGee ATH 5-11 186 Plantation H.S. (FL) ATH #5 82 Verbal
Jamal Reid ATH 6-0 175 Lafayette H.S. (FL) ATH #12 81 Verbal
Olivier Vernon DE 6-3 239 American H.S. (FL) DE #16 80 Verbal
Curtis Porter DT 6-2 334 Victory Christian H.S. (NC) DT #17 80 Verbal

KENT-MCGEEE-REID ARE ALL PLAYING DB---WE HAVE 3 STUDS COMING IN TO PLAY NEXT TO BRANDON HARRIS--thats not counting the late local signees to come. The 1st 4 are ESPN 150 Players and the other 2 have a 80 grade which is considered a stud----- We have more talent coming in

Notice all top 6 are need? RB, and the other 5 are Defense-------- We have qb's, top wr's now when they grow, we need a top flight RB and Defensive help, its coming. 2 more top classes, and in 2010, we will be like the 2000 canes again, ready to break loose

WHEN HAS OUR "D" EVER LOOKED LIKE THIS????
I KNOW YOU WANT TO BASH NIX BUT 39 PTs IS MORE THEN ENOUGH. OUR "O" IS GIVING US 26.7 PTs A GAME VS D1 TEAMS. 3PTS VS FL WAS BAD. BUT THE 34.6 PTsAVG THE LAST 3 GAMES IS GOOD!
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BALL (BILL YOUNG)'S "D" IS AS BAD AS IVE SEEN US SINCE MAYBE PROBATION 97,IF EVER. THE "D" IS GIVING UP ALMOST 30PTs A GAMES VS D1 TEAMS. BILL YOUNG MADE BACK UP QB FROM A&M LOOK LIKE A STAR, NC 3RD QB LOOK STAR,& MADE SORRY A_S FSU LOOK GREAT & THEY SUCK ON "O" & WE COULD NOT STOP THEM,WE CANT STOP ANYONE. 41 @ HM VS FSU? NOT EVER !HES GOT TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

"By 2010, our Freshman studs are Juniors" - Captain Chaos

Yeahhhh but by 2010 will U have figured out it's your coach that's the issue and not that U "have a young team".

PROMOTE WITHIN

WHEN HAS OUR "D" EVER LOOKED LIKE THIS???? - the funky bunch

"41 @ HM VS FSU? NOT EVER" - marky mark

Ummmmmm try 48-0 in the OB Finale vs UVA.

Maybe you only tune into 1 game every other year, bringing up the average Nelson ratings for fans of Duhhhh U, but.........

YOUR D HAS PRETTY MUCH LOOKED LIKE THIS SINCE THE DAY U WERE LAST RANKED - 2+ YEARS AGO

Let the weekly evidence speak again:

6 SEC Teams in the Top 20

1 ACC Team in the Top 20

FSU falling in at #33 under "others receiving votes" and Duhhhhhh U falling in at #Irrelevant just outside the Top 75.

"Yeah but we have much younger teams in the ACC, it's almost as if we are recruiting middle school kids, while the rest of the conferences in the nation are hand picking kids directly out of high school......"

Whhhhaaaaa - IT'S ALL ABOUT EXCUSE U

"You've got to keep banging away on pride, the pride factor that you have inside of you," Shannon said.

WHEN'S THE PARADE?

WOW! we fans really have character. the team we CLAIM to care for SO MUCH looses and we rail against them & practically destroy them. They all stink; the president,coaches,players,stadium,uniforms,etc. They win and everything is GREAT. As fans we are very FLAKY. FANS let's show some CHARACTER when the team we CLAIM to care for looses.

just getting back in from miami or should i say just getting dry from sitting in that soaked stadium. I'm very disappointed in these canes including coach shannon. After seeing what paul johnson is doing at GT playing the same opponents we are and using a triple option offense, that guy can coach. The jury is still out on shannon but it's starting to look more and more like shannon is a another ZOOK. a helluva recruiter not so good coach. I know this is his first head coaching job and hopefully he gets better and canes fans have patience. Now about the game Offense no identity need to find a everydown RB Coop is good but he is a situational back (third down) input S McNeil. With all the mental mistakes and dropped passes by Hankerson,Shields both Ryan and Khalil put and bury there butts on the bench input Benjamin,Collier,Byrd and A. Johnson. the best way to correct mistakes is by not playing them. Defense is garbage LB's and Safety's are soft. I never thought i will say that about the U. Once again play the more talented but hungry young canes Sharpton,Cook,Reddick and Ponder out input Brown,Futch,Nicholas and Telemaque. If they are going to make mistakes once again play the more talented but inexperience players. Also we need to be more agressive on both Offense and Defense. It's time that we become the HAMMER and stop being the NAIL.

5-7? Are U kidding? Maybe UM will beat UCF but will not win but 2 ACC games. Sam as last year. Even VA won yesterday vs a hot/cold MD. Every ACC opponent will be favored vs UM except NC State.

Keep the faith! "Holy no defense Batman"! McCarthy out is hurting us! It's tough right now! They have to focus on Central Florida! I give Miami credit for coming back! They didn't quit! That is a sign of character which can be accredited to RANDY SHANNON!

Get ready and focused for Central Florida! Bill Young will now have his work cut out for him! One win away from 500! Miami is headed in the right direction! They are growing! Coming back from 24-0 showed tremendous character! Go Canes!!!!

24-0!! Coming back from that showed me tremendous character!!! That character was implemented by RANDY SHANNON! Miami is headed in the right direction. Miami grew yesterday despite losing the game!! In two years all these freshman will become Juniors!! Go Canes!!!!

That's very encouraging!!!!

The reason the D sucks is they are all young. Freshman lineman are starting , Fresh Linebackers, and fresh DBS--------And our Sr/JR Leaders are out, moncur, mccarthy, a few others--WHo ever posted about the 97 d being bad like this. thats cause butch played all youth. GUYS--we are playing true freshman besides whos starting .that says it all, its not bill young

SHANNON AND CO have a long ways to go.
Stop blaming the kids. We have as much or better talent than most of the current top 15 teams ranked easy.
We don't have good coaching.

DON'T MAKE A BIG DEAL OF THE 39 POINTS WE SCORED THEY WHERE AFTER TURNOVERS AND TRICK PLAYS.
OUR OFFENSE DID VERY LITTLE.
NIX'S PUSZY PLAYCALLING COST US THE GAME AGAIN....
SHANNON HAS TO START LOOKING FOR A REAL OC OR HE WILL BE A GONNNERRR.

So wE aRE TOAst ONce AgAIn LIKE EARLY LIKE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SOLUTION TO THE PROBLE;
LETS SCHEDULE TA&M AND A COUPLE OF 1AA TEAMS
EVERY YEAR .

Jerry, the top 15 teams have 5 straight years of top recruiting, We have talent, but only 2 classes brought in by shannon, and really 1 since he became coach 1 mo before the 07 signing class, SO WE DONT HAVE THE SAME TALENT_--at top programs, and the old U, we played 3-4 true fresh, and everyone redshirted. Now, we are playing 22 true fresh, ARE THE TOP TEAMS PLAYIng 22 true? I mean playing, not on just kickoffs. GUYS------BUTCH DIDNT WIN for 5 years, everyone hated him, do you all forget? probabtion was done in 97 and we didnt go to a bcs until 2000. Randy has coached 16 games, give him 4 classes, then in 2010, if we are not a top 10-15 program, obviously its change time. But this aint college basketball, you cant win with freshman.

One thing that has ALWAYS been a problem for Shannons defense is over pursuit and still is a MAJOR problem today. He does not teach his defenders to be disciplined. Shannon is over his head and we need to go outside the program for new blood!!!

We have the playmakers, 3 of our top 6 on the ESPN rankings are DB's in next yrs class, we have the #1 RB on Rivals and Scout coming in Brown, and we are a top 10 now on RIvals and Randy hasnt landed the local talent yet---we are headed for another top 5 class, and he also has landed some top D lineman and TE's . DB's are the problem, and 3 on the list are on the ESPN 150, B Mcgee from Plantation, Prince Kent a 6ft 2 corner ranked #3 in the US, and Jamal Reid from Florida, rated #12. ALL PLAYING DB---we have more help coming, and we have the Power #1 RB in the nation coming, NO ONE FEARS OUR RBS, so its tough to pass, NOW, with BROWN(we havent had his caliber since mcgahee/portis/gore, the defense will have to watch, which will open up benjamin, collier, and all these playmakers---PRINT THIS--by 2010, we are back in the NC GAME--with Randy as the coach-----------Talent is coming. we are going to have a loaded class again. go check what they say about mcgee,reid, and prince kent on espn.com/collegefootball,then click recruiting. THREE DB STUDS TO GO ALONG WITH B HARRIS-----help in on the way

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