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DOLPHINS STADIUM -- Just finished filing my story on Miami's defense and wanted to share some post game thoughts with you.

> For all the attention Miami's freshmen on offense have gotten this season (and they deserve it), Marcus Robinson showed us Thursday night why the Canes got more than just playmakers at receiver in this 2008 Signing Class. He had three sacks, four tackles for loss and a team-high seven tackles in his second career start. Without question, he earned tonight's game-ball with his play.

Marcus_robinson_2But he also sent a message: the Canes have some pretty good young playmakers on defense, too. Defensive tackle Marcus Forston, who also had a sack, Sean Spence, who is on his way to a freshman All-American season, and Brandon Harris are the stars of the class. But if Robinson can turn up the intensity at end, Miami's defense can be a whole lot better the rest of the way this year. God knows they've needed a pass rush. Robinson, by the way, said he got news of the start Wednesday night on the bus ride to the team hotel. He started in front of Adewale Ojomo.

> If I had to give out a game ball on offense, Reggie Youngbloodwould get it. He stepped up big for Jason Fox at left tackle and provided some solid pass blocking despite obviously being less than 100 percent. He said afterward he got a few breaks to rest on the bench, but played more than he had all season. Chris Rutledge, who started opposite him at right tackle, went down in the first quarter and battled back and stayed in the rotation with Matt Pipho. Virginia Tech finished with four sacks. But on a night when UM played without its best lineman, the line held its own. The Canes finished with 123 yards rushing.

> With the win, Miami improved to 13-1 all-time on Thursday night ESPN games. I'm willing to bet they scored a bunch of points with recruits, too. It's been awhile since UM played in a prime time game and won.

> UM coach Randy Shannon said part of the offensive game plan was to get Virginia Tech's defense tired. Shannon said he knew the Hokies only rotated about 13 players and felt like if Miami could hold onto the football in the second half it could prevail. Miami owned time of possession in the second half 18:23 to Virginia Tech's 11:37.

> By the way, here's a link to The Herald's audio slideshow from the game, which I helped narrate.

> And here's the link to the audio interviews from last night's postgame scene.

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if only our quarterback threw the ball...jacory is the better QUARTERBACK

I love these Baby Canes. I didn't appreciate the championship teams nearly as much as I appreciate these kids leaving their hearts on the field. I'm in the DC area and I'm gonna scalp some tickets to the Maryland game to root against UNC. All 'Canes up here, I urge you to to do the same.

first!!!!

Win or not, Nix's play calling needs innovation and quickly!

THAT WAS THE MOST INSPIRING FRONT 7 DEFENSIVE GAME I'VE SEEN FROM THE CANES IN 3 YEARS !!!!!!

Nix conservative play calling in the red zone made the game closer than it should have been. Cost us some extra points. Had Tech d on their heels until we got in red zone. James need to be in there when we are near the goal line. Hats off the defense, we helped Taylor out by missed tackles. Good win Canes.

Brown need to follow Cook around to learn the Defense. I'm sure Brown is faster than Cook. we need the MLB to be an Tackling Machine.

This game shouldn't have been nearly as cose as it was. Canes should have had at least a 24-14 win. The offense looked great until they got inside the 10, then they shut down. Well, maybe "great" is a stretch considering the number of fumbles. I'm not sure what the problem was onece they were down to the goal line. The blocking was honestly not all that good down there and had more to do with their inablilty to punch it in than anything else. I didn't like how quick Marve was to tuck the ball and run and it wasn't all that effective either. I'd rather see him sit back in the pocket and learn make plays with his arm, but he took off pretty quick a lot. Overall I'm not gonna complain. They got a big win when they needed it bad and they controled the game throughout for the most part.

The defense looked solid and they've been improving from week to week, but the inability of VT to throw the ball all season can't be overlooked either. It's easier to play the run and to tee off on 3rd downs when you know the team you're up against is like 111th in the country in passing offense. The defense struggled with the mobile QB as they typically do. Hopefully that's not a sign of trouble awaiting them next week against the option.

If I've said it once I've said it 100 times. Moving out of the Orange Bowl was a huge mistake. I don't want to hear about luxury boxes, parking and concessions. That stuff doesn't make more money if nobody comes to the games. Nobody wants to drive all the way to Dolphin stadium and nobody wants to cheer a team in an empty stadium. The homefield advantage the Canes had is gone forever, or until the city comes to its senses and insists that whatever stadium is built on the site of the old OB includes space for the Canes.

I really happy the Canes got the win but I'm worried going forward. Every great team, every great dynasty for that matter, must have a dominating home field advantage. I don't see us EVER having that at Dolphin stadium.

Does anybody agree?

agree,even if we were 10-0 people dont want to make the drive

I love this group of young Canes. They make you appreciate the hard work and dedication it takes to be great. Keep fighting and when the bell rings you will be victorious

CaneInCali,

I disagree. No matter where the Canes played the numbers would still be the same. The problem isn't the stadium, it's our small fanbase. Miami is a college town and UM is a small school. As a result we don't have a large student or alumni base to rely on. A lot of Cane fans were never students at the U.

Dolphin stadium is a far superior venue for those who do come to the games.

Touchdowns are needed no matter what in the redzone, but i'll take a field goal over a pic any day... most of the Marve runs were a one read then pull the ball down and run... Stop blaming nix, the canes had a gameplan of ball control O and solid D. IT WORKED... a win is a win...

Thanx for the tickets 86!!!

I agree with Forevercane. I no longer live in Miami so I can't come to the games, but if you look at USC, they sell out games. The team just needs to continute improving.

The turnout will get better. The team will get better.

They are more than 1/2 the way there.

Great job coach Shannon.

as far as the crowd, the stadium was rocking at key points in the game. I do miss the orange bowl more than most, but those jumbo-trons are impressive... I dont care if the canes play at Traz-Powell stadium i'll go wherever they play..

The drive, I live in north dade, about 7 minutes from joe robby. If i can make the drive to the Orange bowl whats the big deal about taking the turnpike north? smells like an excuse...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fYQ6nm_l5o

The Whole team fought hard for this great win,thats one thing this team is and thats tough. Allen Bailey, Marcus F and Marcus R are beasts. BUT WHERE ARE THE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!

D was outstanding. Shannon should be praising them for saving his scared coaching. This win masked a lot of issues for us. We are lucky VYech missed a FG, dropped an easy bomb for a TD, and didnt do anything on that last drive. Not attempting to get into FG range before the half was a horrible coaching blunder and another example of Randy Shannon not having a clue. There is nothing you can say to justify that to me. Nothing. And look what happened, because of it VTech had a chance at the end to win. It should have never come down to that. NEVER. I hope we dont resign Shannon and just see what he does next year and let him earn it next year.
It is a win and a win is a win but it is definitely masked by some ugly things.
I used to think next year could be the year but I am beginning to think otherwise now. I think we need a proven head coach to lead this team and then I think we could be championship material.

How about Jacory only getting one series, that I saw??? A freind of mine was sitting by Jacory's dad and he was pissed. He was promised more playing time and he is not getting it. Oh well. I do agree with Jim Kelly though that we need to stick with one, but I think the one should be Harris.

Great job Shannon and baby Canes!! Nix did a pretty good job and Billy Young is going to have fun with these young defensive players next year. I'm all the way up here in Gboro, NC where there are a lot of Hokie fans. Can't wait to fly the "U" flag around town. Go CANES!!

A great win, playing against a very good team...
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Defense saves the game in a close one... Nix needs to loosen up, but a win is a win.
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Just sounding off...
I have always loved JJ for what he brought to the U, but watching Jimmy Johnson on the side lines at a Cane game... wearing his $300.00, Blue shirt, was an insult to UM and UM fans... What a AZZZHOLE!

He really pissed-me-off!

Cool I am in GBORO too and I myself can not wait to rock my canes gear. Its nice to hear from some fans up here in NC, I recently moved from South Florida (Cape Coral) so I love seeing the support, by the way are U going to the NC State game?

If I've said it once I've said it 100 times. Moving out of the Orange Bowl was a huge mistake. I don't want to hear about luxury boxes, parking and concessions.

Does anybody agree?

Posted by: CaneInCali | November 14, 2008 at 03:09 AM

so sick of guys like you ...
always looking a gift horse in the mouth ...
world-class not good enough ...
http://dolphinstadium.com/
preferring primitive to hi-tech ...
dial-up to broadband ...
ford pinto to rolls-royce ...
jonestown guyana to silicon valley ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
hey cali, misery loves company ...
reminisce on grassy ...

POOH-POOH

Can anyone please inform me on why Arthur Brown is not playing? And will this cause his brother to De-Commit? I am not in Miami, so I do not get much info out of state. Thanks

My Thoughts? Great game on national TV... reminds me of the old days.. I agree with earlier post, movng out of the OB was HUGE Mistake, so what if it was falling apart... FIX IT we arent living in the dark ages... It should have been fixed. Dolphin stadium just doesnt do it for college football, it's too freaking big, not to mention the first 3 games are played on dirt on the infield.

The defense was off the chain, offense needs a little more work like craig james said last night a little too vanila, but we are working with two young guys. The score could have and should have been 31 - 10.

But a Win is a win I'll take it, just happy to be complaining about this than to be complaining about a loss.

Go canes, love my boys

I agree that Dolphin stadium will be about 1/3 empty for most Cane home games except for teams like FSU, Oklahoma etc., and that this will detract from a significant home field advantage. While Coral Gables apparently won't allow a near campus stadium to be built, someone mentioned that if a stadium is built on the old Orange Bowl site, that it also be designed so the Canes could play there - seems like a descent idea. As an alternative, (not being from the area) is a stadium location somwhere in Southwest Miami, closer to the U, a possibility? A stadium with a capacity of 50,000 to 60,000 should work well. It may be unlikely that U administration would get on board, but those who agree keep making noise.

Arthur brown is not playing because he is not good enough as a freshman... Why don't people understand that. R. Davis has played lights out the last two games, then U have Sharpton, Adkins, Cook, Spence...

give it time and brown will be a beast.

I do agree that Marve seems to have regressed some from earlier this year. He doesn't go through his receivers, and just tucks and runs. I think this may have happened from what he was seeing on tape this week. The fact that VT doesn't give QB's all that much time to throw the ball when they blitz. And to tell you the truth, Marve did have to get rid of that ball very quickly on many occasions because as soon as he hiked the ball, there was a defender in his face.

Herbal Minded aka HM:
The red zone play calling was atrocious. Even the announcers were saying it. Stop relying on Marve's feet to get you in, VT was ready for that. And yet, time and time again, Nix goes out there and calls a draw play. Why no post routes or fades to AJ? Why not leave JJ in inside the 5? On first down and third down, Nix was calling a designed Marve run. Ridiculous.

green:
Harris was in for two series that I remember. Both were 3 and outs. I agree he didn't have much chance to shine, but he also didn't do enough to suggest he was ready to move us down the field.

All in all, good game. Defense was amazing, hats off to VY for once again smothering the opponent's rushing game. Still need to work on red zone D though.

Nix did everything in his power to lose us this game, and we still pulled through. Bodes well for these young Canes. But we desperately need a new OC. There is NO WAY we become an elite team with this vanilla offense.

From what i saw it looked like Marve did what he was tought. All his runs were not draws, most were look to your first read, if its not open then pull the ball down and run. yes Marve did it too often, but i'll take a one yard gain inside the 20 over a pic.

Posted by: green | November 14, 2008 at 07:34 AM

assumed identity ...

ERSATZ

Huge win for the canes last night, sad it's the last home game of the season. That place was rockin during the last couple defensive stands, especially Allen Bailey's sack on 4th down!
I first would like to say as long as we win, that is the most important thing. BUT... Just once I'd like to see Jacory start and play most of the game! I really believe we wouldn't need to keep squeezing these games out. He would put points on the board, he has proven it. I don't think to say he didn't do anything last night is a fair assessment. His 1st series was inside our own 15 and like Shandel said, what's with the QB draws? He really didn't get enough opportunities. And listen, Marve didn't play bad, just like the Virgina game. But did he play good? I think Marve is a solid QB who has tremendous upside, he just seems to be more of a game manager. Harris is a game changer!!! Nuff Said.

CaneInCali - I disagree with your assessment of Dolphin Stadium. I believe the lack of fans in the stadium has more to do with 1)lack of winning in the last few years, 2) changing demographics. It is a fact that SFLA is a difficult place to draw fans (ask the Dolphins), unless you're winning. Also, it is well documented that more people are moving from Dade & Broward. The majority of people remaining here are not football fans.

CaneInCali - I disagree with your assessment of Dolphin Stadium. I believe the lack of fans in the stadium has more to do with 1)lack of winning in the last few years, 2) changing demographics. It is a fact that SFLA is a difficult place to draw fans (ask the Dolphins), unless you're winning. Also, it is well documented that more people are moving from Dade & Broward. The majority of people remaining here are not football fans.

Yes the play calling was very vanilla. Nix will have to get more passes down field against GA Tech.

Why was Jacory not in at end of the game considering his 4 quarter heroics recently?

Yes we won but if we would have lost at the end with a field goal, Shannon would have taken alot of heat along with Nix. Lots of questionable decisions.

As far as the OB. We would of had 60,000 plus at the OB. It would have been rocking. I don't go to UM games to be confortable. If I want comfort I go see the Dolphins. The OB had a great college football atmophere. 40,000 fans at the OB sounds like 70,000 anywhere else.Give me the OB with a jumbo Tron and I would take it any day.

I had club seats and I ended up seeing half the game at the bar. To comfortable for me.

Couple of things. First I am very happy to get the W. 5 game winning streak is a big step forward for us.

It has become obvious that Nix doesn't trust Marve enough to let him make a play (other than running it himself) in the redzone. He gets very conservative. It almost cost us a game that we dominated.

I also think Marve is coached to run at the first sign of trouble. If the first guy isn't open take off. The gameplan was conservative in the 2nd half and I understand wanting to protect the lead. I will let all of that go w/o complaint except for 1 thing. We had the ball with 1st and goal on the 2 in the fourth quarter with a chance to put the game away. Why is Javarris James not in there in place of Coop. He has better hole vision and is the bigger back. We can play conservative to protect the lead but James needs to be the bruising goaline back. Coop has his strengths too. But the coaching staff needs to put the players in position to succeed based on their talent. In this case James should have gotten at least 2 shots from the 2 to put the game away. Instead Coop got 1 carry. Marve ran the next play and then threw a worthless poor pass on a fade or jumpo ball route. Shaq couldn't have put a fingertip on it even.

We won this time but I hope Shannon and Co see what's happeneing here in the redzone. Harris is a more natural playmaker in the redzone. He attacks the defense and gives his WR the chance to catch the balls. Heck the offense just looks more fluid when he's in. Nix seems to trust him more to not make a mistake too. It's obvious with the playcalls that you see.

Yes the play calling was very vanilla. Nix will have to get more passes down field against GA Tech.

Why was Jacory not in at end of the game considering his 4 quarter heroics recently?

Yes we won but if we would have lost at the end with a field goal, Shannon would have taken alot of heat along with Nix. Lots of questionable decisions.

As far as the OB. We would of had 60,000 plus at the OB. It would have been rocking. I don't go to UM games to be confortable. If I want comfort I go see the Dolphins. The OB had a great college football atmophere. 40,000 fans at the OB sounds like 70,000 anywhere else.Give me the OB with a jumbo Tron and I would take it any day.

I had club seats and I ended up seeing half the game at the bar. To comfortable for me.

I hate doing this cause he's a kicker but Bosher was the MVP! He kicked us out of bad field position with boomers and hit all his FG's!

The stadium issue is over. It is what it is. Move on.

How about Jacory only getting one series, that I saw??? A freind of mine was sitting by Jacory's dad and he was pissed. He was promised more playing time and he is not getting it. Oh well. I do agree with Jim Kelly though that we need to stick with one, but I think the one should be Harris.

Posted by: green | November 14, 2008 at 07:34 AM

He's gotten a ton of playing time as a true freshman, so what the hell are you talking about? The way Randy is handling it is working...we are 7-3, so shut up.

All I'm going to say is:

Shannon called a great game!!!!

and remember.............

We played a top 10 defensive team with a fr qb, you can't expect Miami to score 40 points. Turnovers would have killed us!

Great game plan!!!!

What a really satisfying win. I've wanted these turkeys (pun intended) to go down for a while.

I really don't like Lou Holtz, but he made a valid point about the Cane receivers dropping passes. It's hard for your QB to succeed. True, Johnson's strip was hard to control... but some of those drops really made me cringe.

Bosher and the Miami defense are co-MVP's. The VT run was non-existant, and Taylor was forced to make plays.

While I have demonized Nix previously, I'm not doing so now. Those drops stung. VT's defense is still really tough.

But our defense is tougher. Bill Young's 2nd half adjustments are devastating to opposing teams. Woot.

If I had to nitpick, I'd like to see a go-to receiver actually emerge and consistently make plays. True, we don't have a Michael Irvin (yet)... but I'd take an Ed McCaffrey.

7-3 is awesome. Really, really awesome. To think that the Canes could accumulate 8 or more wins after the last two seasons...

...is really something.

Note: I'm not deluding myself into thinking ACC Championship game yet, because we have yet to see NC lose and officially make Miami in first place and thus controlling their ending.

Every win is a gift for the glory-depraved fans of the U. Ken Dorsey spoiled us rotten. But things are getting really, really good... and I love the direction we're going in.

agree,even if we were 10-0 people dont want to make the drive????


You all act like nobody lives in the area????

Who the he** lived near the OB????

I lived in the upper keys and it took me longer to get to the OB.

And I do prefer comfort and the big screen, and actually having a nice bathroom to go into without waiting in a 1/2 hour line.

Shannon is doing a great job!!!

Go U

The ESPN crew said it best... We have a great defensive team and scheme with a vanilla offense.. Nix needs to open it up and stop being so conservative in big games..Nevertheless, Go Canes!!

Big game for the D. Bring on G-Tech. We were vanilla, but that was by design. It worked. I agree with LB. I don't like Lou Holtz either. He's George Burns minus the cigar, and Israel Gutierrez, is Canesrule and Green. Who cares about what Jacorys dad is saying (even know thats crap). He don't play for the Canes......Go Canes.

Next week will be Jacory's, I would almost bet on it. I see what Shannon is doing. Marve does need to stop tucking so much though, he needs to look for his 2nd and 3rd recievers.

Obviously most of you talking about a new stadium near coral gables have never actually been to miami. If you had you would know that there is NOWHERE to build it... miami is packed together like a sardine can so suck it up in dolphin stadium or wait for a new 1 at the old ob site, but that is doubtful considering all the money the university is making from dolphin stadium.

Great win last night. And AzCane just how you are saying VTech could have easily executed off our mistakes, but missed field goals and dropped passes is what masked our mistakes you could have said the same thing on the canes behalf. Why are you upset with the play calling, we started out throwing deep but we had too many dropped passes. Shannon is not coaching scared he is coaching smart. Personally, I wouldn't continue something that isn't working. Yeah we could have ran James in the goal line situation but I'm sure there is some reason why he wasn't in those situations. Shannon plan was to tire out the D of VaTech and he did.

And to the person who posted about Brown not playing, Brown isn't ready yet. This comes from not being taught the fundamentals. He was so much more gifted than his opposition in high school that he was just playing off talent. He will be fine and personally I feel his brother will be the same way. It's going to take some time but those players, but when their time come they will be fine.

Patrix Nix will caause this team wins due to his play calling. Not using the proper personal during key point, i.e not having JJ in on 1 and goal from the 2. For weeks now anytime they have 2nd and less than 5 they always call the QB draw. When you run the bubble screen 8 times in a game that's a problem. What happen to the down and out, comeback pass, sqaure in, just the basics. Also I'm starting to see a lot of Kyle Wright in Marve one look, not there, tuck it and run no progression. I love the players and for the most part the coaches but the offense has to improve if we're ever going to be great.

Patrix Nix will caause this team wins due to his play calling. Not using the proper personal during key point, i.e not having JJ in on 1 and goal from the 2. For weeks now anytime they have 2nd and less than 5 they always call the QB draw. When you run the bubble screen 8 times in a game that's a problem. What happen to the down and out, comeback pass, sqaure in, just the basics. Also I'm starting to see a lot of Kyle Wright in Marve one look, not there, tuck it and run no progression. I love the players and for the most part the coaches but the offense has to improve if we're ever going to be great.

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