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Marve's high school coach: 'He's frustrated'

ORLANDO -- Robert Marve had a sideline pass waiting for him at the Citrus Bowl Saturday. He never picked it up. But somewhere, the University of Miami's starting quarterback was watching his former high school team capture its second state championship in three years.

Robert_marve_4Saturday, after the Citrus Bowl cleared out I caught up with his former high school coach Robert Weiner, who has kept in close contact with Marve since he left Plant. Weiner said he speaks with Marve every day and said his former star quarterback spent two hours with him Friday breaking down film before Plant went out and beat Tallahassee Lincoln 34-14 a day later. While most of Friday's conversation was about the upcoming title game, Weiner said Marve expressed to his coach what's been troubling him lately at Miami.

"Robert's a competitor for sure and like anybody else he wants the job," Weiner said. "And that's part of [what's bothering him], but that's not the only part of it. It's just a matter of him trying to get the most out of his experience so he can help his team. And he's not always sure that's happening."

With rumors rampant about Marve possibly seeking a transfer, I asked Weiner if Marve had discussed Robert_marverobert_weinerleaving UM with him. "I do know he's frustrated, and that the situation he's in now, he's frustrated with," Weiner said. "You have to see what all your options are and things like that. Robert would be torn if [transferring] was really the situation because Robert is such a team guy. He's developed quite a bond with his teammates in Miami, so that would be a difficult situation for him for sure. But at the same time, just like all of us in any of our jobs, in anything we do, we have to evaluate our situation and then determine what's best for our situation."

Weiner said he, as well as Marve's family and friends, have been frustrated -- possibly more than Marve -- about how his suspensions and his playing time has been handled. When asked about Marve's relationship with UM coaches, this is what Weiner said: "The guy who recruited him, Joe Pannunzio, has a tremendous relationship with him. And continues to have a great relationship with [him]. And I know he works with Patrick Nix, who he works with day in and day out. I'm not sure of his relationship with Randy Shannon. The relationship with head coaches can be different in different places. Sometimes, they can be a player's coach and have good relationships with their kids and some head coaches don't have relationships with their kids at all. I'm not sure what Randy is. But I know Randy's relationship with Robert is not a buddy-buddy relationship."

Weiner said Plant has had a lot of recruiters stop by in the last three weeks. Although he didn't say any specifically inquired about Marve, he said he's sure "if [transferring] was something Robert wanted to pursue, he'd have some opportunities."

> As far as potential destinations, Weiner said Marve returning home to play at USF would likely "not be a possibility" because UM plays USF four out of the next five seasons. He also said Alabama, a place Marve was once committed to, no longer shares the relationship it had with Plant.

Orson_charles> As for another Plant-UM connection, tight end Orson Charles talked a little about his recruiting situation Saturday. "Basically, everybody is up there for me," Charles said. "I'm going to pray about it and talk to the people I care about it most with. [What happened with Robert] doesn't really affect me. It just keeps me guessing. I'm just going to talk to Marve and see what's going on. But everybody is still in it. We're going to go see from there."

Charles said he spoke to Marve Friday before the game, but didn't talk at all about college. Charles put up MVP-type numbers in Plant's 34-14 win, catching 6 passes for 132 yards and two touchdowns. He also made three tackles and recorded a sack.

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Sounds to me like he can't take the heat. I say man up be a leader and lead this team. Life is NEVER easy but if you want something that bad then YOU will get it, it is all up to YOU! Robert do not be a quiter!

looks like he us checking his options. Watching some bowl games while I try to set up my new TV in the bedroom.

Looks like its over for Marve and the U.

Great stuff Manny

I told all those recruits. Why would you go to the U? Randy Shannon isnt a head coach. He couldnt hold Ron Zook's jock strap when it comes to coaching. That is a disaterous situation until they get a REAL head coach. You all didnt believe me but each and every day that passes some of U are seeing the light.

I hope Marve doesn't become Willie Williams Part II. He should simply do a great job when he is in rather than the bone-headed interceptions that he was responsible for in the second half of the season. Joe Montana didn't start right away in college, he actually was a back-up if you can believe that. But when given the opportunity he came big. Every time Marve is in he should just concentrate on the game. The game is always 0 - 0 when he goes in. He has no excuses.

Thanks Manny... still lots of questions left though...

" ...It's just a matter of him trying to get the most out of experience he can to help this team and he's not always sure that's happening."

That's a weird quote... (is there a word missing there?)

I feel it says a lot... but I'm not quite sure what it is...

Doesn't look good for us and Orson Charles though... this cannot be good... Charles is a beast.

MARVE NEEDS TO STAY!!

Yeah I really think he's leaving and its sad to see him go if he really does, his touness is exactly what UM needed back in the program rather he's the starter or the backup. Hope everything works out for you Rob, Once a Cane always a Cane in my book.

I'm still torn about the situation. Seeing a Cane transfer, no matter how good or bad, always hurts. Whatever happens, happens, I guess. I'm ready to move on from the discussion to talk about Cal. Anyone else think they are way overrated?

Charles sounds like he would be a great get for Miami. He says everyone's in the running, but, Manny, did you get a feel at all for which way he's leaning? I'd really hate to see him end up at UF or FSU.

When did USF switch to white helmets?

Its plain and simple:

Recruit one guy Robert Marve who is a good QB

Recruit another QB Jacory who is a good QB and will bring 8 of his stud friends and continue to be a pipeline for Northwestern recruits

I dont know you make the call?!?!

It is what it is right now Shannon is in a bind but he needed to make Jacory happy and I am sorry to say Marve is not helping his cause i.e. getting arrested, not going to class, throwing INT'S that are boneheaded.

Manny is clearly not a linguist, a grammarian, or, hell, even a good writer.

Not exactly sure what he is frustrated about??

He started almost every game this year, no? Which means he won the competition and other than JH there is no comp at the moment. To me this is the best situation he could ever be in. He is only competing with one guy!! At any other school there will be 4 or 5 guys to battle with.

Is he frustrated about the rotation all year? Sure anyone would be, but if he is all about the team then he should know it had to be done because of our ridiculous Qb depth issue.

We are lucky RS did that. Now look wher we are. We are one injury from seeing Matt Perrelli behind center. UNACCEPTABLE.

Robert calm your ballz and man up son. This is your home. You don't bust out at the first sign of trouble.

Your suspensions are your fault and your fault only. Noone to blame there my friend. You know the rules. End of story

Do the right thing young man and you will be rewarded handsomely very shortly.

Great Job MN!!

GO CANEZ!!!!!

Not exactly sure what he is frustrated about??

He started almost every game this year, no? Which means he won the competition and other than JH there is no comp at the moment. To me this is the best situation he could ever be in. He is only competing with one guy!! At any other school there will be 4 or 5 guys to battle with.

Is he frustrated about the rotation all year? Sure anyone would be, but if he is all about the team then he should know it had to be done because of our ridiculous Qb depth issue.

We are lucky RS did that. Now look wher we are. We are one injury from seeing Matt Perrelli behind center. UNACCEPTABLE.

Robert calm your ballz and man up son. This is your home. You don't bust out at the first sign of trouble.

Your suspensions are your fault and your fault only. Noone to blame there my friend. You know the rules. End of story

Do the right thing young man and you will be rewarded handsomely very shortly.

Great Job MN!!

GO CANEZ!!!!!

The interview did not sound positive. I think Marve is done at UM. I knew something was up with him after the GTech game when I listened to his interview. He does seem like he cars and he's bummed out by all of this, but he has some responsibility in this too. The 2 QB system which I even critisized early on, now seems like it was the right move. It takes a special kind of person and competitor to attend UM especially with Randy's old skool philosophy. Kids these days don't always take the Jimmy Johnson competition methods. They want things given to them. So it takes a special kind of kid to come here and be successful.

I like Marve though and hope he lands on his feet and no matter what he decides.

USF has helmet envy...

If Marve wants to leave, let him leave!

If he's frustrated, it's only because he has underperformed and he darn well knows it. And now he has the fans and media and Jacory breathing down his neck....

Get used to it son! This is major college football! Wanna play somewhere with no fans and no expecatations and no media coverage? Go play for FIU or FAU... loser teams.

I can understand his being frustrated, but only if it is WITH HIMSELF and HIS performance.

He has nobody to blame for his situation, for not having totally locked-down the starting job, but himself!

The problem with Marve is complex. First of all his play is too inconsistent. That's first!!! You can't win with him right now. And he has not applied himself in the classroom. Say what you will but maybe he should transfer and get a fresh start.

He's a talented kid that makes some bad decisions. Maybe the program can't wait for him to get it together. We have had 4 good quarterbacks. Sometimes blue chip players don't always play like it!

Do you all realize that Jacory had more touchdowns and almost the same yardage as Marve with 1/3rd of the playing-time this year?

That means that had Jacory played the whole season, his statistics would have projected to 35+ touchdowns and 3,000+ yards.

Hell ya!! We would have had a MAJOR QB on our hands!! And this is what we'll have next year...

Sorry, Marve. I think you have potential but you need to stop acting like a whiner. Get better at football- that's the solution to your frustrations.


who cares what marve is frustrated about. sounds like a drama queen to me.
JACORY IS A BETTER QB FOR US ANYWAY.
HOW CAN WE DEPEND ON SOMEONE WHO GETS SUSPENDED 2 TIMES A YEAR TO BE OUR FUTURE.

Gosh, I'm hoping that Robert Marve stays with the team, but he needs to understand that he is the product of his own mistakes. Rather than complain about his personal frustrations, he needs to start figuring out how he can improve his own self worthiness and help his team in 2009. He's a young man and authorized to make mistakes. I hope he's not a quitter. I wonder where his Dad is in his time of need? I'm not at all ready to throw in the towel on Marve, but apparently most-everybody else is.

Marve would be making a terrible mistake if he transferred. I think that the whispers in the locker room, eventually got louder as the team recognized Jacory was a winner. Marve probably feels isolated and should use this as a learning experience. He should seek out Canes greats:Testaverde, Dorsey, Walsh, Torretta for advice. Learn how to read defenses and cycle through progressions as he already has all the physical tools.

He should transfer to North Carolina. Word is the Tar Heels need a 4th string QB and Marve would be perfect in that role.

Some of you are too quick to criticize Marve for considering a transfer. Marve is a kid, give him a break.

It's not as easy as 'manning up' and accepting the bench for the rest of his college career. It has to be hard for a kid with his talent to accept that.

The quote about Marve's relationship with Randy Shannon is telling, I wonder how well Shannon gets along with Jacory Harris.

Frustrated? Well, at least Robert has something in common with the fans. Maybe if he spent a little less time in the Grove and more time on schoolwork and the playbook, he might be able to separate himself from Harris. UM QB's don't run away, they lead. Man up Robert.

Good ridence. I'm getting so tiered of this kids act. I used to think he got a raw deal but once the facts have come out I began to relize Marve is just an imature 18 year old kid. He is not mature enough to lead this team. There has been nothing but drama surronding this kid since he got on campus and he hasn't accomplished s*&t. I think he is becoming a detrament to this team and just needs to leave. I think he'll find out though that nothing is going to be handed to him anywhere else. He can't even beat out a freshmen QB. What makes him think he is going to go somewhere and beat someone out for a job. This kid is living of his highschool success. He needs to get his act together if he expects to play again. He is going around complaining to anyone that will listen instead of trying to improve him self. This is not going to be a great loss for UM, we need leader and players. Not just talent.

this is crazy man I have seen this many people involved just because this guy had some competion in his position. That's what it is about when you are loaded with young talent everyone is fighting for pt. If he doesn't want to compete and wants it handed to him all you marve fans needs to choose another hero. This young team needs a leader on the feild like it or jacory is a leader. Look at uf tebow is a great leader that's why the gators have sucess he got even that great of a qb. Marve has problems one we haven't seen from a um qb before this is crazy man. Even the sorry qbs like wright Berlin Collins costa none of these cried and ran home and wanted people to feel sorry for them when times got hard. Leadership that is what jacory is about he deserves a chance and how can anyone one who post things negative about jacory starting the bowl true cane fans u need to be behind this guy and want him to lead us victory not hope for him to fail do u can say " I told you we needed marve or marve is or that ". Marve left his team in Miami while he went to Tampa to sob. One guy on here said he rather be a notre dame fan or something like that well bye buddy go ahead it is not bout one guy or player the U will rain supreme with or without u

Both qtbacks would look better if Nix had more sophisticated plays. If you look at the good offensives, you find the better O. coordinators have better plays, Deceptive plays, mis match plays, and plays that get guys open. Part of the frustration is Nix generated, because of bad plays and just fair playing calling. Still no place for a whiner qtback at the U. Personally I think Harris has way more upside than Marve.

Agree on the Nix comment... we SELDOM have guys wide open anymore... and it can't ALL be the fault of the receivers. We need some play calling that confuses defenses... doesn't seem to be happening with Nix calling the plays.

Which one of you have personally heard Marve say anything ?? You guys talk so much crap behind your computers. Marve has not transfered. He has not said he will transfer !!! The Plant coach said he should consider his options, not Marve. You call yourselves UM fans ???? This is UM's fanbase ?? You sound like HS girls on here....
Wait to see what's on the dinner plate before you talk about the seasonings, Idiots !!!!!BTW
Our O line sucks. The receivers dropped balls.
The LB's and Safeties missed a lot of tackles.
The play calling did not allow a UM team that played with more heart then I have seen in 4 years due to a P**SY play calling, which I don't know if it was Shannon or Nix's call.The corner's could not cover or tackle at all. So why are we obsessed with Marve ? He is a Freshman.He got suspended because he is immature. That's the story. Check underneath your skirts, because I have a feeling in the next 2 years this team will man up and win.Where we stand right now, Marve will be on that team.

frustrated? Over what? Randy gave this guy EVERY opportunity to distance himself from Jacory, and he didn't do it. Even when Jacory played well against Duke and Virginia, Marve started the next game. Frustrated over his relationship with his coach? Ask Phil Sims what his relationship with Bill Parcells was like. No matter where you go, you're going to have difficult relationships with coaches or even other players. If anyone should be frustrated, I say it should be Jacory. I mean, he played better in several games over Marve, but he never got a start (other than the first game). And he NEVER bitched about it!

Great job Shannon of pushing a gifted young player into possibly transfering just so you can make Jacory's Dad happy. Could we please get a real coach and a real offensive coordinator and quit wasting time and talent with these moronic think they know what they are doing coaches. Great recruiters though gotta give it to them they just can't evaluate talent and develope it. Get off the money Shalala or whoever and pay someone that knows what they are doing.

Please stay Marve! I may not be in the majority
as a Cane fan but I sure know I have a lot more football knowledge then most on here! This kid needs to stay and you guys do not even realize it yet! Sure hate for us to find out the wrong way, like Marve at another school playing his heart out and kickin our butts! This 2 qb thing will never work guaranteed and never has anywhere!!! Quit this South Florida only recruiting crap and lets get this team back to where we belong! At the top!

all i can say to all you marve haters he never got a 100 percent chance you have to make the guy your starter if he earns it in the spring it will not work taking him out after 2 or 3 series every game then you put him back in how do you expect him to keep a good rythym plus you need a good quarterback coach that can teach these guys ive been a season ticket holder since 1991 i thought i would never say this about another cane but i believe randy has to go if we ever want to be one of the elete teams again in college football he can recruit but as long as he is coaching get used to 7-5 8-4 if were lucky and this offense want be anything as long as nix runs it we always want to blame the players just like in the kyle right kerby freeman situation but the coaching sucked for them and i think it sucks for these quarterbacks we need to keep marve and harris and get them a good coach so they can both be superstars PLEASE miami stop wasting talent

Can you believe J. James actually thinks he's ready for the NFL? After rushing for less than 248 yards this year? After spending three years often injured and almost always unable to live up to potential and hype?

If he wasn't related to E. James, do you think anyone in the NFL would think anything of him? (not that the NFL thinks anything of him right now...)

That dude better back off the ledge, and check into a mental clinic.

Yes, his first cousin is a famous running back. Yes, they both played for the same school... but as far as I can tell, that's where the similarities end.

I always thought he had great potential, and I'm really hoping he posts a MONSTER senior year. But right now, that dude is completely nuts if he thinks he's serious NFL material.

"ALABAMA IS NOT INTERESTED"...HMMMMM, SOUNDS LIKE THE MARVE(S) HAVE BEEN SOLICITING MR.MARVES SERVICES...HMMMMMMMM.

This blew me away: "Weiner said he, as well as Marve's family and friends, have been frustrated -- possibly more than Marve -- about how his suspensions and his playing time have been handled."

How in the world can they be frustrated by how Marve's playing time has been handled!!?!??

He's played 2/3rd or 3/4ths of the time, with his inferior statistics and all, even though he's been outperformed by Jacory all season!! Even when Jacory would save his butt and get us the win, after Marve had done nothing all game... Marve still was named the starter for the next game.

What the hell else do they think should have happened?!!!?!?!? What would it take to make them happy? For Shannon to make a proclamation that Jacory will never play another snap until Marve graduates?

I'm getting pretty sick of Marve and these whiny bit-hes that surround him.

good post canubelievethatquote these so called um fans are begging this guy to stay if he wants or even is considering out let him go. People say u haven't heard it from marve but he also hasn't denied it like he denied failing( my grades are fine. What about transferring? No Comment.). I just can't believe these are real canes fans begging this guy to stay as if he is that spectacular. You have talented guy who showed he is ready to lead and do the right thing but these fake a** canes sit here and bash him and the rest of the while he cries and says nobody in Miami likes me. Who wants to play with a guy like that no true ball player he considered a punk in the locker room a baby T.O minus the skills a drama queen. Fake canes stop begging u make the other players push away for that problem child more u make guys like Harris smith and taylor say hold up we are here screw him ride out marve. He really can't come back even if he did have this so called potenial he showed he is a loser by heart. Another thing everyone has been saying he is just 19 but so was Bradford Mccoy Tebow Dorsey and even Harris and they have kept a clean nose why can't he and this us harris's first year as a college student. Fake canes go beg on Gator Bait or Warchant

I guess his closest friend is his HS coach. When things get a little tough, that is where he goes for "guidance".

He has been put on a pedestal since Pee Wee Football. His HS coach did the same with him. Now he goes to a big time program and he wants to be HAND fed. Doesn't have a close enough relationship with the head coach. BS!

The position is the person he needs to be close to. Work hard, stay out of trouble and go to class. Things might be different.

Life will not be easier someplace else. I would like to see him return provided he changes his attitude.

Look... I'm sure Robert Marve has talent. BUT!!! Nick Saban didn't even talk to him when he took over @ Alabama. And by this article STILL isn't interested. That should be telling. I have never seen a UM QB with this type of attitude. I agree he needs to talk to the past UM QB's, Jim Kelly, Bernie Kosar, Steve Walsh, Craig Erickson, Ken Dorsey, Mark Richt, Vinny Testaverde , Gino Torretta & learn what it takes to be a leader @ Miami. I don't remember any of them getting suspended.

All of you doubting Jacory Harris look @ what he did @ Miami-NW. The summer between his JR & SR year they were head coach-less. HE, Jacory Harris & Marcus Fortson held SPRING & SUMMER practices. They ran the team. THAT'S LEADERSHIP!!! I'm sure Marve has it, but right now he sure as hell isn't showing it.

This was a solid quote from a post above-

"Sorry, Marve. I think you have potential but you need to stop acting like a whiner. Get better at football- that's the solution to your frustrations."

Couldn't have said it better myself

I think Marve needs to stay, the kid makes mistakes but he is ours.It is True that Harris has outplayed Marve, but Harris has been playing with most of these WRs all his life. You guys needs to stop treating an 18 year old kid as if he is a pro. Marve is a Cane and Randy needs to show some leadership and treat this better than he has. I do believe that Harris is the better QB but Marve needs to be given a chance. I saw this kid play at Florida, boy he has it. BACK OFF and give the kid a break.

Does anybody know how these 3 guys did this year?

1) Matt Patchan- that hot-shot OL guy who chose UF over UM at the end?

2) that UM commit who left UM at the end for LSU, b/c they "showed me more love.." I think his last name was Johnson?

3) Kirby Freeman at Baylor- did he play? What were his final stats? (well, even if he sucked at least his girlfriend was hotting and he was pounding THAT all year)

Nix needs to send Marve a thank you card because it's taken a lot of heat off of him due to the Marve drama.

My personal opinion is Harris needs to start. He's earned that chance. At the same time Marve doesn't need to leave. He is one play from being the starter again. Most of life is attitude. Gotta have a good attitude about life, work, or playing football. He needs to just try to be the best football player he can with a good attitude and learn. Be ready when the coach calls your number. Don't make this worse by transferring.

1) I think he converted to DE and was put in on a few plays this year. I also think he's been injured the past couple weeks.

2) Changed his last name to Peterson (Patrick Peterson), saw limited pt

3) Played the first half of the first game at Baylor. Had abysmal stats and was benched for a true freshman who finished out the season. Boy were Baylor fans surprised when this senior Miami QB wasn't good enough to start at *Baylor*

Maybe Coach Weiner should have "manned up" and helped him a little more when he was still at Plant. High School is where you develop the habits that take you through life...not just on the football field. Maybe his dad should have helped him a little with his discipline and habits,also. It's pretty late to be starting now.

By the way, Coach Weiner, it's an NCAA violation for a college coach to speak to you about a kid transferring who is on scholarship somewhere else. Care to man up and tell us who it was, or were you blowing smoke?

robert needs to look in the mirror. don't like being suspended..then go to class. want more playing time, then don't turn over the ball. i don't think that any objective observer could say that he had a good season. and you can't blame it on the qb rotation. the florida gators won the national championship 2 years ago with a qb rotation. tebow didn't complain. so guess what robert...quit your complaining and get out there and work on getting better. no coach at a top program is going to hand you the ball. you have to earn it. so go earn it. and go to class.

ANSWER ME THIS ONE QUESTION YA'LL, HOW MANY GAMES WOULD MIAMI HAVE WON HAD MARVE TOOK ALL THE SNAPS? C'MON YA'LL, GIMME A NUMBER.

Its plain and simple:

Recruit one guy Robert Marve who is a good QB

Recruit another QB Jacory who is a good QB and will bring 8 of his stud friends and continue to be a pipeline for Northwestern recruits

I dont know you make the call?!?!

It is what it is right now Shannon is in a bind but he needed to make Jacory happy and I am sorry to say Marve is not helping his cause i.e. getting arrested, not going to class, throwing INT'S that are boneheaded.

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