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Shannon, Jacory react to Marve suspension

GREENTREE PRACTICE FIELD -- UM coach Randy Shannon confirmed after Thursday's practice what Eugene Marve told us earlier this afternoon -- the Canes' starting quarterback has been suspended for the Emerald Bowl. But what stunned me wasn't that Shannon was short with his answers to reporter's questions to the Robert Marve story. We expected that.

Randy_shannon2What was strange to me was that he didn't seem extremely bothered by the fact the guy he started 11 times this season began his season suspended and will end it suspended for basically failing to what he's supposed to -- go to class and be there on time. "You're always disappointed when a violation of team rules occur," Shannon said after telling reporters the decision to suspend Marve was made Thursday morning. "But you know what, our job is to teach them and they learn from it. He'll bounce back and we'll keep him going.

"It's just a growing pain. He's a redshirt freshman, you got to get guys understanding that it takes certain time with guys. Everybody's not going to come in and do everything that's supposed to be done. It's our job to get them to do it... Our job is to educate the kids when something happens. And that's what my job is to educate them. This university has been very helpful in educating all the student athletes we have on campus and we'll keep doing those type of things."

Shannon said he hasn't heard any rumors about Marve transferring and said he expects him back after the bowl game. As expected, Jacory Harris will be the starter in San Francisco Dec. 27. The mild surprise? His backups will be walk-ons Matt Perrelli and Jake Byrne, the team's current holder and long-snappers. Shannon said he won't let Cannon Smith or Taylor Cook burn their redshirts (both would by playing this late in the season, despite not having played much if at all).

As for what this means for Marve's future, Shannon was asked if being suspended twice would affect his standing going into the quarterback competition (should Marve return) next year. His response, "Spring is Spring. This season is still this season. We're still in 2008. So we got to play this game as 2008. You can't get ahead of yourself. When you get ahead of yourself, that's when you screw up."

Jacory_harris2When asked a similar question in reference to what his second career start and the bowl game means to him, Harris responded a little differently than his coach: "This game right here for me is going to be the start of the 2009 season. It's going to start out like a miniature spring game. We're just going to go out there and show everybody what we have in store for next year."

Harris, who injured his throwing shoulder in the season finale, said right now his goal is "to lead the team to a bowl victory." "That's all I can do," Harris said. "It's unfortunate about the situation that took place. I just got to go out and have a good game and my team will be behind me."

> Don't expect Jacory to be scared about starting. He's looking forward to it. "I think its easier to start a game," Harris said. "Coming off the bench, that's where the pressure comes in. You got to keep the momentum. If your down, you got to come back. If your up, you got to keep them going. And if you don't, people will say why didn't your bring us back? Why didn't you keep the momentum going? I've heard a lot this year about Jacory -- the momentum lacks when he's in the game. I just laugh and have fun."

> Harris said he still hadn't spoken to Marve about what happened because the team hadn't learned about his suspension until practice. But he -- along with others -- inferred they would be calling Marve to make sure he was OK. But most said they were told not to talk about the situation.

> For those of you hearing the complete interviews with coach Shannon and Jacory, visit our audio page.

> I'll keep this short since it's basketball newsy and I know there's a lot smaller of an audience for it. UM forward Jimmy Graham was seen wearing a cast on his right wrist Thursday. But I've been told by UM sports information director Margaret Belch, the injury was not serious. X-rays were negative and Graham supposedly practiced like usual. "He slipped in the shower, but it's not that serious," Belch told me. "From what I've heard he's supposed to play Sunday." UM hosts 25th-ranked Clemson (10-0) in its ACC opener on Sunday. Frank Haith is supposed to address the media Friday afternoon.

> On the recruiting front, I spoke with the father of Jared Wheeler this morning on my drive back from Orlando. He said Shannon and coach Jeff Stoutland are supposed to make an in-home visit tonight to the Wheeler home. Tuesday, the Wheelers hosted Vanderbilt. Jim Wheeler said UM coaches have been telling his son they'd like to try him out first at tackle, but realize "he's a kid that could play anywhere on the line, from guard to center if he had to." As for UM's chances -- they look really good. Wheeler said while Vanderbilt is great and offers many of the same things UM does, the distance seems to be favoring UM. Look for a possible commitment announcement soon.

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Randy Shannon has a much of a chance of being successful as Caylee Anthony is being found alive.

or OJ found innocent..

"man where is the program heading?"

Somwhere between 5-7 and 7-5 with no chance of making the ACC Title game anytime in the next 10 years!

HATE TO TELL U I TOLD U SO

"Shannon is just using his players to hide the fact that he is a sorry coach"

Funny how it takes U guys 2+ years to figure out what every fan of college football told U the day U decided to promote within.

EXCUSE U IS BACK

"Having Nix is like being on probation"

And hiring Randy was the death sentence that set your program back 10 years.

U GET WHAT U PAY FOR

"The fence around the state of Miami is a little more porous than last year."

I think you mean the wet paper towel around Miami...... most 2-Star Recruits in the nation and a 12-12 record!

THE NUT BOWL IS ALL ABOUT U

Randy Shannon better deliver some results starting now with the bowl game. These kids are no longer freshmen, he has picked his QB, and we are in year 3.

Patrick Nix is absolved of any blame, it's all Randy Shannon's problem now. Nix has already shown what he is as an offensive coordinator; not firing him amounts to a vote of confidence. It says that Shannon is OK with the offense and that Marve is the reason it hasn't been effective. Well now you've got an experienced Jacory Harris, JJ and Coop, your offensive line, and a receiver corp with no freshmen.

I hope it works because there is noone left to blame.

canethang,

You're a stupid idiott!!!!

This is a crock of sh1t. Randy I don't blame any coach for enforcing team rules and Marve should have known that they were looking for any excuse to get him out of the way so Jacory can start. Had Marve played and lit it up it would have been harder to put Harris as the starter rather they come up with this bull crap rule to push Marve out of the way so harris could be showcased and play the whole Bowl game. Randy I applaude the disipline thing but there is NO ONE on this staff that knows crap about quarterbacks. A young kid like Marve needs to play through his mistakes not pull him in the 2nd qtr after a mistake to let another guy play. Face it dude you Robert Marve have been put in a no win situation and you have not helped yourself with mistakes that just give them a reason to pull you or suspend you. Robert Marve you have two choices 1. Use this as motivation and let it fuel you to be the starting QB at Miami next year by winning the spring competition or 2. Transfer to another school that has a competent offensive staff and not deal with all this political bull crap. U know you are the better QB now show it.

Way to go C.J., Marve is the better QB, he just hasn't shown it yet.

You've got to think it's harder to be Marve than it is to be Jacory Harris. Jacory gets to come in when things aren't working as a change up to Marve. If he makes something happen he's a hero, if he doesn't Nix is an idiot. No blame gets placed on Jacory Harris, he throws 2 picks against NC State and noone on this blog even mentions it.

These were both freshmen QB's and Randy Shannon managed to destroy the self-confidence of one and placed a fair amount of pressure on the other. I can see it now, Marve tranfers to UF and starts putting up huge numbers. Meanwhile in Miami Jacory Harris.....who knows what we do with Nix running the offense.

I think all this negativity on the blogs is great... Think about it, every year in the offseason all u have are delusional fans talking about his the canes are gonna go undefeated and win a championship... Then, the season comes and goes and we are left with a crap bowl game...

So maybe, just maybe, with all this doom and gloom on the blog now, things will get better and we will actually have a great season next year...

Randy Shannon has a much of a chance of being successful as Caylee Anthony is being found alive.

Posted by: Chaz Reinhold | December 19, 2008 at 09:28 PM

That's totally uncalled for you pathetic sack of sh*t.

Hey canethang, we're all Cane fans here but, seriously, get off Jacory Harris' nuts. You're sad.

By the way, Robert Marve is not junior, you dumb@ss.

Just shut up already. All I see is your dumb@ss getting constantly called out for not knowing anything. It's obvious you don't know anything about sports.

Simply put, Marve makes Jacory better & Harris make Robert better. Their competition is the key to the Hurricanes return in 2009.

Without Struggle There Is No Progress.

If only Patrick Nix would grow some balls to learn more plays than a bubble screen and as soon as Bill Young can teach these young Canes how to show everyone that they are Bulls and not female dogs then we would actually start winning.

Leadership reflects attitude... Nix needs to find his swagger, and Forston needs to take control of the defense... Him or Bailey...

You guys are brutal. Have some fun with this. This team is young, talented, and getting better. Randy Shannon will become a better coach too.
You cannot turn around a program in one (1) year. Next year will be better than this year was, and the year after that LOOK OUT!

Westernfin is comparing 19 year old Robert Marve with 32 year old Chad Pennington. You must be the most stupid dork on the face of the Earth.

tj,

Good job staying positive, I'm trying to do the same.

There's a great opportunity for Jacory and the 'Canes to do some good things next week.
Maryland put up 35 against Cal. The Terps averaged 18 ppg against the ACC schedule this year.

Click here to find out more!
Miami's Nix: 'Canes offense 'maturing'
By TIM REYNOLDS
AP Sports Writer

CORAL GABLES, Fla. — When assessing this Miami season, offensive coordinator Patrick Nix broke the schedule in half. First six games against the last six games, weighing just about every variable against the other.

His verdict?

The Hurricanes finished the year strong — and set the tone for bigger things in 2009.

"We all, as coaches, see these guys maturing," Nix said Friday in an interview with The Associated Press. "They've shown now they are grasping what we are trying to do, grasping meanings and concepts and that kind of stuff."

There's plenty of numbers that support his theory.

_ Miami was one of only 17 teams in major college football to see its scoring average from last season increase by more than 7 points. A year ago, the Hurricanes ranked 101st in the nation at 20.6 points per game; this year, entering bowl season, they're 47th at 27.9 points.

_ Through the first six games of the year, Miami was 110th in total offense nationally at 289 yards per game. But in the second half of the season, the Hurricanes averaged 365 yards a game, putting them 54th nationally over that six-game span.

_ Miami quarterbacks Jacory Harris and Robert Marve completed 56 percent of their passes for 924 yards, seven touchdowns and nine interceptions in the first six games, then completed 58 percent of their throws for 1,370 yards, 12 TDs and 10 interceptions over the rest of the regular season.

CanesJunkie,C.J.,AND Reed-I'm glad to see you guys have some sense and know talent when you see it.

M.H.- Did Nix assess the season before or after he interviewed for the the Auburn Job?
(I wish like hell they were stupid enough to take him)

I think all this negativity on the blogs is great... Think about it, every year in the offseason all u have are delusional fans talking about his the canes are gonna go undefeated and win a championship... Then, the season comes and goes and we are left with a crap bowl game...

So maybe, just maybe, with all this doom and gloom on the blog now, things will get better and we will actually have a great season next year...

Of course we are on the right track and it will get better....just not as fast as we would like....

Also I like like to add the Fla. with their superstars and coordinators leaving, will start dropping down the ladder, one notch at a time..

..and F$U with NCAA sanctions, at their doorstep and Bobby now wanting to stay another 3 years, to match Joe Pa....ain't going nowhere!

NO REED I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL, i only played for 18 years and coached for 10 years.. and never coached a team with more than 2 losses in a season. IM JUST AN IDIOT FOR THINKING HARRIS BETTER. SORRY THATS MY OPINION.

ILL KNOW IF IM RIGHT AFTER THE CAL GAME.
GO CANES.

MANNY, With St. Thomas now winning the 5a state championship and maybee the national... WHATS THE DEAL WITH THEIR SENIORS? where are they headed? and why not UM?

Canethang...

Noone is saying Jacory isn't good, it's that Marve is better, as far as some of us are concerned. The Cal game isn't going to be the final word on who is better. I'm sure we all hope he has a great game as we really can't afford another loss.

NO REED I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL, i only played for 18 years and coached for 10 years.. and never coached a team with more than 2 losses in a season. IM JUST AN IDIOT FOR THINKING HARRIS BETTER. SORRY THATS MY OPINION.

Posted by: canethang | December 20, 2008 at 03:03 PM

Yeah, I'm sure you did. And if all that is true, that's really really sad for you because you don't know anything.

And if Jacory plays well or not, that won't mean a thing because it's only one game.

Do some investigation, don't buy the company line that Haith is feeding you, Graham did not slip in the shower, they don't want you to know what really happened.
As for football, if you do some research you will find that other coaches hold Shannon in high regard for his ability to recruit, and a very low regard for his game day management

I find it sad that our fans are turning the QB situation into something that it should not be. Marve have been part of the program long before Harris arrived. If this guy was a true leader, he would have demonstrated that through his action. Keep in mind, Harris is a true freshman with a goal and focus. You can not say the same for Marve. He continues to live on his father's legency instead of creating one of his own. It's time for this kid to grow up and accept responsibility for his actions. A true leader leads by example not only by his words. So far, Harris has shown he is more mature than Marve. Harris is a true winner. He has played in bigger games at a higher level than Marve have ever experience. That's saying a lot in itself. You will see this on Saturday!!!

ok reed it will only be one game. we wont know for sure after just one game. harris has played in 12 games this year and did better than marve overall(every catagory except yards)in 1/3 the snaps that marve had. so this game against the 3rd best pass defense should tell us a thing or two about if jacory really has what it takes or if im just wrong. i think harris has poise and touch , he does his school work, he goes to practice, the meetings , and his classes on time. he has the respect of his teammates. from everything ive seen of him there is nothing i dont like.

it would be easier to add 25 pounds to harris ,than to make marve a smarter all around person on the field and off the field.

>> Harris said he still hadn't spoken to Marve about what happened because the team hadn't learned about his suspension until practice. But he -- along with others -- inferred they would be calling Marve to make sure he was OK. But most said they were told not to talk about the situation.<<

Incorrect use of the word "inferred". Should have been "implied". The speaker implies, the listener infers. Some editor needs to take remedial English.

He threw for four touchdowns as Miami rallied past Duke, two more scores to carry the Hurricanes out of a deficit at Virginia two weeks later, and after both of those games Harris was named the ACC's rookie of the week. Performances like those are part of the reason why Miami coach Randy Shannon doesn't have any reservations that Harris will be able to handle whatever Cal throws his way Saturday night.

"It's no different than what he did all season long," Shannon said. "He's going to be fine. He played all season long. Played in a lot of great games in tough situations."

Starting with that Duke game on Oct. 18, Harris has the 31st-highest passer rating of any quarterback in the country, among those with at least 15 attempts per game. Among ACC quarterbacks over that timespan, only North Carolina State's Russell Wilson was better, with a rating of 143.6 edging him past Harris' 141.8.

And unlike most backups — especially those a few months removed from high school — Harris has been received by teammates as a leader, too.

"Jacory Harris is a great quarterback," Farquharson said last week, on the day Marve's suspension and Harris' promotion to first-string were announced. "He had a great season this year. He's a smart guy. He's ice-cold in his veins. He plays well under pressure. He's a great guy."

Harris finished the regular season with a team-best 10 touchdown passes, one more than Marve. Harris also completed a higher percentage of his passes (60.8 to 54.5) than Marve, and threw an interception every 25.5 passes — compared to a one-every-16.4 clip by Marve.

As a student at the university, I can safely say that Marve doesnt frequent some of his classes very often. A couple of my friends had a class with him but didnt even know it until he showed up at a test four weeks into school. Ive had classes with players before, and most of them know better than to skip class. If Marve feels he's above the rules, I see no reason why he should be allowed to play.

As a student at the university, I can safely say that Marve doesnt frequent some of his classes very often. A couple of my friends had a class with him but didnt even know it until he showed up at a test four weeks into school. Ive had classes with players before, and most of them know better than to skip class. If Marve feels he's above the rules, I see no reason why he should be allowed to play.

I dont no that marve was the better qb he through a lot of INTs and didnt take care of the ball the way he needed to to win a few games...I think harris did that better than marve. idk who the better qb is it seemed pretty even to me marve just got more playin time than harris

Its sad commentary that most of the comments are about how wrong it is that Marve was suspended and in essence how much the Canes program needs him. On the other hand, no one is addressing the message that Marve as an alledge leader of the football team is sending. If you dont want to lead go back to high school. Perhaps your high school coach could use your lack of EXPERTISE. Grow up or just find a JOB. It's called work.

Marve is a whiner, the high school coach is wrong for speaking out in the MEDIA on your behalf and the CANES program don't need U. Go play pop warner. Your actions are pathetic with your snotty nose acting self. Keep running the show Coach Shannon. Thanks for you for not bending the rules, NOT even for the quarterback. Sorry guys we thought Marve was leader. He is a cry baby.

You dont want to attend class, but you want to play. Do the math son, you were sent to Miami to be a student athlete, not attend class when you get ready and/or not at all. If you don't change your attitude what football program is going to give you a chance. By the way, surely someones school needs a water boy how about that for a position. Go Jacoy Harris! it's your turn.

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