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Let the next OC name dropping begin

University of Miami coach Randy Shannon probably already has someone in mind for his newly vacated offensive coordinator position. But like most coaching searches, there still figures to be plenty of names thrown out there as potential targets and replacements for Patrick Nix in the coming days and possibly weeks.

About 99 percent of them will be wrong. And, obviously, only one will be right. But last night, I figured why not join the fun and start throwing some names out there. After speaking with several guys in the coaching and recruiting business, I came up with this list of names with bios and reasons why they might or might not work in becoming UM's new offensive coordinator.

We all know the situation at UM. This program isn't exactly loaded with money. So, big time spending isn't expected. And the last time Shannon hired a coordinator, he went after a veteran in Bill Young for his defense. He might decide to do the same here. Still, there is no telling right now which way Shannon wants to go this time. But if you listened to coach Patrick Nix last night you gathered what Shannon is ultimately looking for in a coordinator is a coach that doesn't run the spread and rather plays more the traditional Canes' pro-style attack. That being said, you never know. Here's my just for fun potential candidate list broken up by categories.

FORMER CANES
Rob_chudzinskiRob Chudzinski: At the moment, still the Cleveland Browns' offensive coordinator. The 40-year old played at UM and won two national titles in 1987 and 1989 and coached as an assistant (1996-2000) and offensive coordinator (2001-2003) before leaving for the NFL in 2004. He's been Cleveland's offensive coordinator since 2007 and was thought to be on his way to an NFL coaching job before the Browns finished this season 4-12. Now, his future is uncertain after the firing of coach Romeo Crennel. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: Chud has had high hopes of becoming an NFL coach and he makes a lot of money right now in Cleveland. Coming back to coach The U isn't really what you'd think he'd want to do. But you never know.

Bernie Kosar: Has never coached. The 45-year old led UM to its first national title in 1983 and spent 12 years in the NFL, finishing his career asa backup to Dan Marino and the Dolphins. Since retiring, he's gone into the business world as part owner of the Florida Panthers and as a steakhouse owner. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: Kosar's name came up the last time. But with no coaching experience I just can't see it happening. Just too wild.

Ken_dorseyKen Dorsey: Has spent five seasons in the NFL as a backup quarterback after leading the University of Miami to a national title in 2001. He's been the Cleveland Browns backup quarterback since being traded from the 49ers in 2006 and has carried the headset connected to offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: Dorsey's playing days look finished, but I doubt he would come here as an offensive coordinator. Quarterbacks coach? Maybe. Wouldn't it be great to see him coaching Jacory Harris?

COLLEGE VETS AT OTHER PLACES THAT WOULD BE UPGRADES
Chris Klenakis: Currently the offensive coordinator at Nevada, he runs the Pistol offense. The Wolfpack ranked second in the country in rushing and 12th in scoring this season. He's got 17 years of Division I experience and eight as an offensive coordinator. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: I doubt Randy will head out to Nevada to get a guy who runs the Pistol offense.

Jeff Quinn: A 24-year veteran and the right hand man of Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly, Jeff_quinnwho has spent the last 17 alongside him. He served as associate head coach at Central Michigan and in 2006 the Chippewas ranked 23rd nationally in scoring offense and 32nd in total offense. He's spent the past two seasons at Cincinnati and helped the Bearcats set school records for points, touchdowns, passing touchdowns and finishing 16th nationally in scoring offense in 2007. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: Quinn has been tied to Kelly so long, he doesn't seem the type to leave a good thing now. But maybe Randy could convince him. After all, he's been here preparing for the Orange Bowl since last Friday. And we remember where Randy got his last coordinator don't we.

Steve Logan: The current quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator at Boston College with a long history attached to coach Jeff Jagodzinski. Logan began his college career under Jimmy Johnson in 1980 at Oklahoma State. Logan was East Carolina's coach for 11 seasons from 1991-2002. and developed three NFL quarterbacks -- Jeff Blake, Marcus Crandell and David Garrard. Spent 2007 tutoring Matt Ryan at Boston College after coaching the Berlin Thunder. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: What's the incentive to leave BC, which has played for the ACC title two years in a row, for Miami right now? Not the money because it won't be much more.

John McNulty: The current Rutgers offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach has more than 17 years of NFL and college experience -- mostly as a receivers coach at places like Connecticut, the Jacksonville Jaguars and Dallas Cowboys. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: He was interviewed for the Alabama job before. Looks like he's holding out for a head coaching job somewhere.

STARS IN COLLEGE MAYBE LOOKING FOR A BIGGER CHALLENGE
Dana_holgersonDana Holgerson: Offensive coordinator at Houston. The 37-year old coached receivers at Texas Tech for five years under Mike Leach and helped developed Pro Bowl receiver Wes Welker before moving on and becoming the offensive coordinator where the Red Raiders became one of the best passing teams in the country. In his first season in Houston, the Cougars had the nation's No. 1 total offense, No. 2 passing offense, No. 49 rushing offense and No. 10 scoring offense. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: He left Texas Tech for Houston. Wouldn't UM be an upgrade? Then again, is Randy Shannon going to run the
spread? Probably not.

Tom Herman: Offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach at Rice. The young gun has helped the Owls become one of the top scoring offenses and passing offenses in the country with his spread attack. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: Miami tried young and talented and then got rid of Patrick Nix. Plus, the spread at UM -- probably not going to happen.

UNEMPLOYED AND LOOKING
Chuck_longChuck Long: An NCAA Hall of Famer, Long, 45, was the quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator from 2000 to 2005 at Oklahoma before leaving for San Diego State in 2006. His career as a head coach lasted three years before he was fired after compiling a 9-27 record. A finalist for the Broyles Award in 2004. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: What better way to set yourself up for another head coaching job by bringing The U back to prominence?

IN THE NFL WITH PLENTY OF PAST EXPERIENCE
David_leeDavid Lee: The Dolphins' current quarterbacks coach and the architect of the Wildcat offense. The 55-year old spent four seasons with Dallas Cowboys as the team's offensive quality control coach and quarterbacks coach in 2005, helping Tony Romo turn from undrafted free agent to Pro Bowler. Was the offensive coordinator in 2007 at Arkansas, helping the Razorbacks average 37.3 points and 450 yards a game. He's got 29 years of experience at the college level -- including five as a head coach at UTEP from 1989-93. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: The Dolphins have a good thing going, but he is right down the road for Randy after all.

Kevin Rogers: The Minnesota Vikings quarterback coach was contacted the last time Miami was looking to fill its OC void. But he passed. He's now in his third year with the Minnesota Vikings as a quarterbacks coach after having spent four seasons at Virginia Tech, three at Notre Dame, seven at Syracuse and and seven more at Navy. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: He's coached Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick. Maybe the thought of coaching Jacory Harris -- or some more money -- might entice him this time around. No. Probably not.

Dirk Koetter: Currently the Jaguars offensive coordinator, the 49-year old Koetter was a
target for Randy Shannon two years ago when he was first looking to fill the position. He's got more than a decade of experience as an offensive coordinator and eight as a head coach at Boise State and Arizona State. The Jags improved from the 10th-best offense to 7th-best in his first season. But after the Jags horrid season maybe the front office will be looking to make changes. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: He passed it up last time in part because of family issues. I don't think that's changed.

Mike_shulaMike Shula: The son of Dolphins legend Don Shula and the former Alabama head coach, Mike has been the Jacksonville Jaguars quarterbacks coach since 2007. He's 43 years old and has plenty of coaching experience. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: Might be the perfect veteran guy and a great backup plan. Plus, he'd be home in South Florida. Then again, maybe he wants nothing to do with college football anymore after what happened to him at Alabama.

Bill Musgrave: The 41-year old and current quarterbacks coach coach in Atlanta has specialized in QBs since he began coaching in 1997, touring the NFL with the Eagles, 49ers and Carolina Panthers. Spent two seasons at Virginia from 2001-02 as offensive coordinator before moving on to the same position with the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's been back in the NFL since then as quarterbacks coach with the Redskins and Falcons. He's spent nearly all of his time in the NFL but hasn't really found the right fit. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK: Maybe the road to a head coaching job has to go through a coordinator job in college first? Musgrave might have reasons to consider if asked.

YOUNG AND HUNGRY, BUT SHARING A JOB
Jay Norvell: The co-offensive coordinator at Oklahoma, Norvell has NFL and college experience. Began his career as an offensive line coach from 1989 to 1994 with Wisconsin before moving on to join Dan McCartney's staff at Iowa State where he served as assistant head coach, receivers coach and quarterbacks coach. From 1981 to 2001, he was the wide receivers coach from the Indianapolis Colts where he worked with Marvin Harrison. In 2002, he left for Oakland where he coached tight ends for two seasons and the Raiders left with coach Bill Callahan for Nebraska for three years where he became offensive coordinator. In 2006, Nebraska was one of only two teams to rank in the top 25 in rushing, passing, total offense and scoring offense while running a West Coast style offense. He spent a year at UCLA before joining Bob Stoops in Oklahoma. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK: I'm sure Norvell, a coaching nomad, is going to jump at the opportunity at a head coaching job first before moving laterally to a program struggling.

Herb_hand_tulsa_co_ocHerb Hand: Currently the co-offensive coordinator and offensive line coach at Tulsa where he's spent the past two seasons running the spread, no-huddle offense. The 41-year old was instrumental in helping the Golden Hurricanes led the national in total offense in 2007. He was the tight ends coach and recruiting coordinator at West Virginia for six seasons before that. His recruiting speciality? Offensive line, junior colleges and the state of Texas. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK: This would be a step up for Hand, who can make a move to a BCS program and have full reigns of the offense. Then again, will Randy like his offense?

Gunter Brewer: Currently in his first season as the co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Oklahoma State. Before that, he spent three seasons coaching receivers at OSU and the four before it at North Carolina. Coached Randy Moss before that at Marshall from 1996-99. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK: Comes from Big 12 country, obviously a place Miami needs to recruit. Brewer, however, probably makes good money out there in the Big 12. Not sure UM will match it or give him much more of a reason to leave.

Trooper_taylorTrooper Taylor: The other side of Oklahoma State's co-offensive coordinator job. Taylor spent four years at Tennessee as the assistant head coach/wide receivers and running backs coach. He was a Top 25 recruiter in 2005 and 2007 according to Rivals.com. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK: Taylor's a guy whose recruited South Florida before and probably knows Shannon. He just got out to Oklaoma State and coming to UM would be a lateral move, not a move forward. But maybe Randy could convince him.

YOUNG AND LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE UP
Billy Gonzales: Florida's current receivers coach and recruiting coordinator who playedfor Urban Meyer at Colorado State and has coached with him. Was recently passed over for the vacant Florida offensive coordinator job by Steve Addazio. Wouldn't it be something if Shannon stole Gonzalez from Urban under his nose? WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK: Gonzalez has never really an offense before and Florida and Urban will do all he can to talk Billy out of it.

Major Applewhite: Only 30 years old, the former Texas quarterback is currently back at Major_applewhitehis alma mater as the Longhorns running backs coach/assistant head coach. He started his career as the quarterbacks coach at Syracuse in 2005 before moving on to be the offensive coordinator at Rice in 2006 and the offensive coordinator at Alabama in 2007. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK: Was recently passed up as Texas' coach in waiting by defensive coordinator Will Muschamp. Major makes some major bucks and he's in the place he wants to be. But maybe getting passed up recently will encourage him to look elsewhere. Probably the best available candidate.

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DON STROCK!?

ARE YOU OUTTA YOUR FRIGGIN MIND?

FIU is now starting to recover from his disorder, lack of recruiting talent, lack of playcalling, lack of knowing who to surround himself, i could keep going but me head might explode.

I agree with dd. The talent level on this team went way down. They are projecting the first UM player to be drafted in this years draft will be in the 4th or 5th round. That is a joke compared to past years. You can see talent regardless of coaching and it is obvious the canes have had very few playmakers the past few years. We finally saw some young guys make plays this year. They have a ways to go but the 2008 canes were much better than the '07 team which was not even competative. I went to the last game of the year in '07 at BC and it was like watching a varsity versus JV scrimage. It was painful. Next year is big for Shannon. His overall coaching needs to improve.

The new U of M Offensive Coordinator will be................ the present Northwestern High Football Coach.

No need to speculate any further. It is a done deal. I have information sources at the U.

This is the quite period for recruiting so this was the perfect time to get rid of Nix. There are two major HS games this weekend so Shannon needs to bring in the OC sometime within the next week.

DON STROCK!? My head may explode from that. FIU is now recovering from his lack of recruiting, playcalling, soft as heck practices, lazy style of coaching, lack of organization, etc.

Can't believe anyone would use that.

short list of OC's IMO:

1. Chuck Long. Has a good offensive mind and has been a HC.
2. Chud. Same as above but not sure if he will come back.
3. Donald Lee. He can come in and get this thing moving using different formations ie fins offense.
4. Shula. look at 1. Also seems to have a "in" with some of the S FLA schools esp. St Thomas (the fact that ST Thomas will not let Saban in the door speaks volumes to the admiration they have for Shula).

All these guys have one thing in common. PRO EXP in some form or another. If you want to run a PRO STYLE offense then get a PRO STYLE offense exp coach in here. The two biggest things that have plagued the program on offense are A)NO identity and B)developing young players. Those two go hand in hand. Seeing Nix's comments yesterday explain why the offense has an identity crisis. If they can get one of those guys mentioned above, I think they can make some moves. Miami's biggest selling point has been the pipeline to the pros, not only for players but coaches alike.

I don't like the idea of hiring Chud or Shula. I'm not sure Chud would even want the job. There are PLENTY of young (and not so young) coaches who would jump at the chance to develop the kind of talent that comes through The U.

We need a STRONG coach who can run the offense without the "help" of Randy. I don't think Jimbo Fischer is asking Bobby Bowden's opinion about much of anything this season! Jimbo seems to have FSU headed in the right direction.

This is the most important hire since Coker was fired. Make the right pick, the winning returns, make the wrong pick...

P.S. To our "favorite" Gaytor trolls, am I jealous of your season?...Yeah Am I jealous of your program?...He He...He Hee...HeeeeHeeee Hahahahahaaha...Yeah right! Leak backed you into your last title, and last year you crapped the bed in Orlando! What if you lose to OU??? Does that make this version of the Gaytors the best the state has ever seen?? Is this the best 3 year run out of all the colleges in the state?? Not so much!! You losers will NEVER sniff the top, and we will NEVER see the bottom!

Go 'canes!!

The new U of M Offensive Coordinator will be................ the present Northwestern High Football Coach.

No need to speculate any further. It is a done deal. I have information sources at the U.

Posted by: Chat | December 30, 2008 at 12:01 PM

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Or more stupid.

short list of OC's IMO:

1. Chuck Long. Has a good offensive mind and has been a HC.
2. Chud. Same as above but not sure if he will come back.
3. Donald Lee. He can come in and get this thing moving using different formations ie fins offense.
4. Shula. look at 1. Also seems to have a "in" with some of the S FLA schools esp. St Thomas (the fact that ST Thomas will not let Saban in the door speaks volumes to the admiration they have for Shula).

All these guys have one thing in common. PRO EXP in some form or another. If you want to run a PRO STYLE offense then get a PRO STYLE offense exp coach in here. The two biggest things that have plagued the program on offense are A)NO identity and B)developing young players. Those two go hand in hand. Seeing Nix's comments yesterday explain why the offense has an identity crisis. If they can get one of those guys mentioned above, I think they can make some moves. Miami's biggest selling point has been the pipeline to the pros, not only for players but coaches alike.

Posted by: dd | December 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM

You hit the nail on the head!!!!

Good coaches have a knack for being able to get most out of their player, they adapt their schemes to fit the talent around them, and they're able to make adjustments on the fly if something is not working. Only an experienced O.C. can give you that, and that is exactly what Miami needs right now! By the way I think Ken Dorsey would be a great choice as a QB coach, he understands the position, and could pass that knowledge on to these younger players!

Here you go..... See ya!

December 30, 2008
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When Nix and Walton were hired, I said they made a mistake by surrounding an inexperienced head coach with less experienced coordinators. Check the record-I said it at the time.

We've now wasted 2 years. Hopefully Hocutt will make a smart decision for OC this time, and SPEND THE MONEY! If you think we've got money problems now, see what happens if we repeat the last 2 seasons.

Randy is doing his job in bringing in the players, but all the talent in the world can't win unless it is developed. We need experience.

I disagree with the temptation to join the fad of the spread offense. UM has won a lot of big games with the Power I-we just need the right players. Bigger and more physical OL and backs, and a QB who makes good decisions.

One of the few things UM has over all other programs is its players' success at the next level. Until the NFL starts running the spread, UM should keep the Power I. Just my opinion.

Who will back-up Harris now that Marve is leaving? We will have 2 FR & 2 walk-on's that have never played. Hope Harris stays healthy!

What about bringing in Don Soldinger?

Who will back-up Harris now that Marve is leaving? We will have 2 FR & 2 walk-on's that have never played. Hope Harris stays healthy!

Posted by: GatorAid | December 30, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Yup, we're screwed. And Jacory may need shoulder surgery. Awesome.

as far as Don Strock destroyingFIU program- that's ajoke.It was and still is nonexistent,as much as I respect Cristobal.
Former head coaches are sometines ideal coordinators. Example is Galen Hall, he is OC at PSU and has done a nice job with much less talent. He was terrible head coach. It's all about preparation,details.
You guys need to stop your "ex UM player will be a great choice".Name some recent great UM players that have become significant coaches ( recruiters does not mean great coaches).
Finally, the great JJ and BD assistant coaches all came from different programs,not from UM.
Finally,what makes all of you think coaching is any different than any other profession.It takes time!! Give RS 2-3 more years and then evaluate. Look at V. Tech.

Man Im as happy as anybody that nix is gone but UHHHH I think shannon may be "nixed" next if he goes wrong on this>>>>> OC pick... GO CANES... keep the recruits comin baby

The new U of M Offensive Coordinator will be................ the present Northwestern High Football Coach.

No need to speculate any further. It is a done deal. I have information sources at the U.

Posted by: Chat | December 30, 2008 at 12:01 PM

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You need to get new sources. Did your source really say this or did he say Randy Shannon wants to get fired for hitting the pinnacle of stupidity?

If Chud comes to the U as the new OC, he will be the HC-in-waiting for about one year. Frankly, I don't think Chud needs to come here and be embarrased by his HC use of the clock.

I can see Dorsey as a QB coach. That's it! You NEVER look back! Bernie Kosar?? I'd take Coker back before I hired Kosar! I like Kosar, I just think he would be the worst coordinator in the history of The U! If all it took were passion, and a love for the school, I could be the next OC!

Shula is the "Ron Zook" of Alabama.

Chud had the best talent in the world when he coached here. He has done nothing to impress me since he left!

We need someone new!!!

Chuck Long, I'm listening!! Can we get him?? Not sure.

TO BE CONTINUED...

Go 'canes!!

Larry Coker- Chudzinski OC Fired
Butch Davis- Chudzinski OC Fired
Romeo Crennel- Chudzinski OC Fired
Randy Shannon- ? OC Fired

Go ahead, Randy, pull the trigger!

I think Nix should have gotten another year given that he was limited this year by 2 freshman QB's and freshman WR's. Now, next year, the freshmen will be just like freshmen again learning a new system.

Dorsey and Kosar are silly names. They could be disasters as coaches for all we know. Let them coach a high school team first or serve as a low-grade assistant at some small school first before we even mention them.

Given the financial constraints (I think we still pay L-Coke for one more year), you can assume that we will be hiring someone just like Nix---unknown, unproven. While we might get lucky with that, the odds are long. We will just have to hope that it turns out. Get ready to google the name when announced because I can guarantee it will be someone that we have never heard of. Plus, good o-coords aren't going to line up to work for Randy with his hair-trigger on coordinator firings.

The Canes will be mediocre as long as Randy Shannon is the coach. You can't blame youth anymore. There are a lot of young teams out there including Florida State and Florida. Those teams will be even better next year. Heck, Florida doesn't even have a senior starter on the defense. How come they can coach up thsoe guys. Look at how FSU was improving byt he end of the year. This is a Randy Shannon problem. The fact is he is a terrible motivator(no upset wins), poor game planner, poor with fundementals. Stop saying he is a great recruiter. UM should be able to recruit top 10 every year. South Florida has the best pool of players in the nation.

WE ALL HAVE NO IDEA WHO WILL BE OC... BUT I DO HOPE THAT BEFORE SHANNON FIRED NIX HE HAD AT LEAST A FEW NAMES IN MIND. I'M A BIG SHANNON SUPPORTER BUT I HAVE TO QUESTION HIS FORESIGHT AND GAME MANAGEMENT.. I DO BELIEVE HE WILL LEARN FROM HIS MISTAKES, BUT THE PROBLEM IS WE CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OF LEARNING ON THE JOB.

MY CHOICE--

Chris Klenakis: Currently the offensive coordinator at Nevada, he runs the Pistol offense. The Wolfpack ranked SECOND in the country in RUSHING and 12TH in SCORING this season. He's got 17 years of Division I experience and eight as an offensive coordinator. WHY IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN: I doubt Randy will head out to Nevada to get a guy who runs the Pistol offense.

I AGREE ITS NOT LIKELY BUT THE GUY DESERVES AN INTERVIEW AT THE BARE MINIMUM..

OH AND KEN DOSEY AS QB COACH!! NIX SERVED THAT AS COACH, SO IN ESSENCE WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS TO FILL

RANDY ON 560

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"Bring back Kehoe and Soldinger to start... they are family and should have never left.

Posted by: JBA | December 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM"

-----> YES! Great point JBA.

And I would love to see David Lee at the helm. If someone can change the Dolphins woes from 1-15 to 11-5. In the NFL??!! You GOT to grab this genius.

Almost every successful college program runs a form of the spread. Including the top teams in the Big 12. When a QB lines up with 4 and 5 wr its a form of the spread. To those who keep posting how the spread sucks. Pay attention. All of the best offenses in the nation use it. USC plays in the worst conference and since most of you have not noticed there offense isnt so hot this year.

To those who say the spread is gimmicky, Florida is about to win its 2nd title in 3 years running the spread. The spread would work great at UM. We have a shaky O-line and playmakers at the WR position. Its hard to play power football when your o-line cannot run block. The basis of the spread is giving your playmakers and speedsters opportunities in the open field. I would much rather the ball be in the hands of our best play makers more, and Harris/Marve less.

UM is young. No matter how talented freshman are freshman. No matter who is the coach, a team with this many young players is going to have its up and downs

I am also sad to hear it was RS putting the clamps on the offense. Power football was not going to happen this year, nor in the future if we cannot bring in some top notch O-line recruits.

I also believe Marve is going to be the better QB. Marve played with all of the pressure every game this year. While Harris, the hometown favorite was able to come off the bench every game. They both had there ups and downs and only time will tell. Marve will be scary at Florida and as a Gator alum, I am glad we are on his list.

Go Canes!

"Bring back Kehoe and Soldinger to start... they are family and should have never left.

Posted by: JBA | December 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM"

Those guys are not coming back. Stop living in the past. You're not going replicate the 2000-2002 years just by bringing back the same coaches of that era.

MANNY. I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T NAME ANY HIGH SCHOOL COACHES. SURELY THERE ARE SOME WHO COULD AND WOULD DO A GOOD JOB.

MANNY. I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T NAME ANY HIGH SCHOOL COACHES. SURELY THERE ARE SOME WHO COULD AND WOULD DO A GOOD JOB.

Posted by: RICK TRUTH SPEAKER | December 30, 2008 at 02:42 PM

A highscool coach is not going to go from High School to OC of a BCS school, all of a sudden. What is wrong with you?

Did Manny forget that this was the last year that the U had to pay Coker somewhere between 1.2 and 1.6 million. I thinbk that was one reason Shannon felt comfortable with making the decision. With the Coker and Nix money being freed up, they have more than enough to hire a quality offensive coordinator.

Get it right Manny!

The spread offense is a fad: a quasi-high school system designed to incorporate sand-lot quarterbacks who run all over the place because they can't stay in the pocket. It won't last because defensive coordinators are already finding ways to stuff it. A pro-style offense is the way to go, especially for players who intend to go pro.

I think the Gator fans who shoot their mouths off on this blog should stop to consider--if they are capable of doing so--that the U set the standard all other schools are trying to beat, and the U has done twice as much as the Gators--and most other SEC teams, for that matter--with just half the resources. The Gator sports program is simply not capable--and never will be capable--of accomplishing what the U sports program has accomplished.

The entire SEC is such a joke. Nobody has ever seen so much money and resources spent on football teams. Look at 'Bama, for crying out loud. They'd pay Satan $10 million a year to coach their team if he (she?) promised them a national championship. Look at Auburn: one losing season and they fire a great (former Hurricane) coach. The same thing happpened at Tennessee. SEC schools blow so much money and resources on their football programs, and they amass so much talent, and they're almost all such huge schools with gigantic student bodies and football budgets; it's a joke: a travesty. It's not sports. It's obsession: no creativity; no imagination; just big, fat, excessive programs wasting huge amounts of money and resources so they can have overblown, hot-aired football teams. Gee whiz.

Great point Anthony. There's the extra money needed to get a good OC. Don't screw it up Shannon or Hocutt!! Use the money and pull the trigger. Go Canes!!

Chuck Long or Ron Prince would be good choices. I really scratch my head with all of you Shannon bashers. As I have mentioned in here numerous times NOBODY wanted the UM job when it was open. Shannon gets the job and all you do is piss and moan. Rome wasn't built in a day and yes alot of damage was done to the program. I say to all of you bashers again NOBODY wanted the job. I'm sorry to see Marve go but I'm not surprized. Harris and Marve want to be the "Guy" and eventually one of them would not be happy. I feel the stipulations that Shannon put on Marve's transfer is harsh and I wish Marve all the best. He has a bad history to deal with because none of the QBs who have transfered out of Miami that I know of have done well. You have to believe that depending on who the next OC will be, a QB recruit will follow. Even if Shannon wasn't the coach, there would be growing pains in the program and you bashers would want that coach to be fired too.

Look we need our own guys in here and someone who cares and loves and bleeds GREEN & ORANGE !!!! I Myself i prefer a guy who knows offense ( PRO OFFENSE ) Here's my A. List....Bernie Kosar....he forgot more than half these coach's know. SMART, COMPETITOR, and will be great with the "QB's". Gary Stevens .... a legend ,,,,, is he still alive ?? If so .... FIND HIM !!!! Rob ChudZinSki ,,,,, enough said .... Ken Dorsey,,,,smart, young , knows the PRO Scheme .... Finally I just want An EX CANE',,,,OUR OWN GUY ,,,, Heck "SEBASTIAN" ... he can double as a mascot and the fans will never know his identity. Go Canes'

Randy can't coach, the last 2.34 of the bowl game should of told you everything. Name 1 player who he recruited the last 2 years that got better? this is the 2nd year in a row this team got worse as the season went on. Take the blinders off and stop drinking the cool aid

First, I want to thank Shannon for making the move and since he want the U identity to be pro-style. Then we need to find a coach with NFL play calling experience. Chudzinski will be a perfect hire. He knows the Miami area and more importantly he is one of us. Koetter will be a solid choice. He loves to use the tight ends. Shoop at UNC. He called a hell of a game against W.Virginia. Ron Erhart, Bob Bratkowski.

Lets take a step back...

I am much less concerned with the name recognition of the coach as much as I am about finding the RIGHT person. Nix was a mistake because he didn't have the play calling experience or background in developing young talent...

So lets talk about what we NEED in our offensive coordinator:

1. Experienced pro-style play caller - Lets face it, UM isn't gonna change its offense so lets get some one with significant experience in our offense. The word "Experienced" is the most important thing because that means Randy will actually trust them to make the calls.

2. Proven young player development - We need someone who connects with the players and takes it upon themselves to push them. Basically, we need someone to COACH them up. Allow them to make mistakes, but teach them.

I know there are a lot more criteria...what are your thoughts?

btw...
I am a HUGE Norvell fan....
but there is little chance we get him

chud is the most common sense pick, a lesser known yet up and comer is the more realistic. bye marve! don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. please tell me the last time a qb left the u and was successful some where else? fortay? freeman? guillon? good luck marve.

Randy Shannon is and always will be known as a good recruiter and THAT'S it. Nothing more, nothing less. He has no clue how to win and no clue how to coach on the offensive side of the ball. Plus, the way he's treated Marve it might actually knock Randy and UM back down to reality. You win with talent but they have to be coached correctly and so far he has exhibited none of those qualities of teaching.
UM might be served to find themselves a REAL coach, one that understands instead of "thinks" he has figured it out.

Living in the Keys and having the opportunity to speak with Jimmy Johnson (JJ) on occasion, I've grown to respect the UM program, as much as a Gator can. Couple of things:

1) JJ has been an adviser to the U since leaving after the '87 season.

2) JJ didn't want Coker because Coker wanted a "national" recruiting presence. JJ knew the Saban / Shnellenberger, "recruiting south Fla. for your base" concept was and is the way to go.

3) RS is Jimmy's choice. Make no mistake about this - and they speak daily!

4) According to JJ - RS wants aggressive and attacking Offensive and Defensive schemes that fit the U's Pro Style. This is what will continue to recruit "PlayMakers" for UM. JJ agrees with RS on this, yet JJ has felt, because of the youth, these first 2 years erring on the conservative, keep it simple side may be helpful.

5) PN was a rushed hire. He's a young coach that hasn't learned how to communicate or teach his student/players.

6) Rob Chudzinski(RC) might be available for the Offensive Coordinator position, with the Browns clearing house, he would be a great hire.

Look, much to my chagrin, the U is making the right moves. With Coker messing up (not understanding) the recruiting concept, RS has re-established this, so the time factor to get back to the glory days has been cut significantly. In my talks with JJ, he told me with all the schools he coached at and all the coaches he's had the chance to speak with over the years - that the UM football program is a very unique situation, it's much more about being a "family for ever" than any other program in country comes close to ... bar none. So, RM, his dad and hs coach won't have an affect on any recruit that "will" play for Miami.

Well, that's my take. A Gator with a view. So, when you read these so called fans of the U diss-ing the program remember ... mostly they're UF, FSU or just U hatters pushing your buttons.

Unfortunately for me ... the U shall return.

The Nix pick: PN was a late, desperate and cheap pick.

For those that remember; RS didn't have the money, the time or the talent two yrs ago. Coker was fired in the middle of recruiting and in an effort to save what he could of an ok class RS and no real offensive talent or money to attract a quality OC - RS had to focus on recruits first and OC second.

His plan; fill the spots, show admin what "cheap" gets ya.

(this was Jimmy Johnson's advise to RS under the circumstances)

UM is notorious for starting cheap, they see the results with cheap and then spend the money for quality.

Don't forget the news conference after RS second class: Donna Shalalalala stated that RS
will have what ever he needs to succeed including money for talented coaches.

First DC cheap fired replaced with Bill Young, not cheap, and will pay dividends. Young had the best defenses in country against the best offenses in the country.

First OC cheap and desperate hire ... fired!

RS now has the money, athletic talent and tradition filled world class program to attract the best OC available!

Can't wait to see who it will be. Chud's my preference.

GO CANES!

I like the idea of Dorsey as a QB coach, but NOT as an OC... Not even close. However, I think there a still NFL teams that are willing to give him a roster spot, albeit as a 3rd stringer.

Randy Shannon has shown he is not a head coach. He doesn't know how to handle things with the press nor does he understand basic managerial tasks with players and coaches. Unfortunately, I have no faith that he can really pull this program back. Sure, he has brought back off-field discipline but that is slowly being eroded by the Marve family. Not to mention the total lack of on-field discipline. Being conservative gets you nowhere fast in college football. He can claim all he wants that the spread gets you nowhere fast but at the end of the day, I remember two things: 1) Shannon's defenses being killed by teams running a spread offense or variation thereof, and 2) Don Shula claiming his greatest key to coaching success was adaptability.

The issue here is greater than Shannon though. The issue lies with President Shalala who may have done a great job with the Clinton administration and as president at Wisconsin (a typical Big 10 underperformer who succeeded mostly after her departure). She brings with her a culture of mediocrity and micro-management that cannot succeed in Miami's athletic department. I challenge her to recognize her faults and open up the purse strings even if at a short-term loss to the university. You will not find the necessary talent for coaching and success if an investment is not made in the future. Suck it up, the football team is the marquis for UM and this will stain your legacy.

ps Don't be surprised if she is fired soon also. I see two major issues for her: 1) Allowing FIU to build a medical school under her watch and 2) the overwhelming poverty streaking across all departments.

The thing that gets me ... is the total football ignorance of some of these so called Canes fans.

BringbacktheU rants about the Pro-Style Offense being a "conservative" style of football.

Well, BringbacktheU for educational purposes I hope your watching the rose bowl and USC romp PSU while running the very same Pro-Style Offense the the U has been running since the '8o's.

As a matter of fact, BringbacktheU, Pete Carroll and staff were on the UM campus in 2000 and 2001 before his season at USC meeting with Chud and Coker studying the U's Pro-Style Offense.

This offense is anything but conservative and unexciting. It's the play caller and the talent, especially O-Line talent that determine what can be done in terms of play calling. The difficult part of this puzzle is O-Line talent they are hard to find.

But, RS has brought in some good young talent at O-Line that will be apart of solving this puzzle for the next 3 to 5 years and beyond.

Now this is just one side of the ball. With Coker totally changing a recruiting process that worked wonders from the late 70's until Coker unraveled it in the late 90's leaving RS with on talent and no depth. What does this mean - look at USC, they rotate 18 different D-Linemen every game, yes that's 18.

So the U needs depth and talent. Both in players and coaches.

37 - 14 USC up early in the 4th quarter. Must be a conservative offense, sure!

Recruiting concerns at the U?

Read this:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-schools/recruiting/v-fullstory/story/834293.html

this is not going to end pretty. I have said all along that Randy would end up getting fired. If Miami was smart they make the move NOW...The program needs some stability. Why anyone thinks this program is heading in the right direction makes no sense to me.

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