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Vernon sticking with Canes

Olivier Vernon isn't going anywhere. He's staying home with the Hurricanes. In a small get together in his high school principal's office, Vernon told friends and family moments ago he is going to stick with his commitment to the University of Miami, which he made back in August.

Img_1212"It was kind of hard because all three teams can win a national championship," said Vernon a 4-star Rivals.com recruit and 6-4, 240-pound defensive end, who was mulling over UM, Alabama and Florida State until the past week. "But UM has been my dream school since I was young. I felt like I was destined to play for them."

Vernon, who graduated from American High Thursday, will begin classes at UM Jan. 20 and will room with freshman defensive tackle Curtis Porter in the spring. He will wear No. 17. Eventually, he will switch over and room with fellow incoming freshman Dyron Dye in the fall.

He's looking forward to rehabbing his injured left ankle, which he injured in the season opener against Coral Reef, with UM doctors and trainers. He said he's still experiencing some pain and could have some ligament damage. But he expects to be ready for spring ball in late February.

The Hurricanes are definitely getting a strong player. Vernon is benching 335 pounds and squating 455. "I've kept lifting, kept working in the weight room even though I haven't played," Vernon said. "I'll be ready."

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Six reasons why we NEED Bryce.
1. Elite players make elite programs. (Look at LSU, UF, Oklahoma, Texas, USC!)
2. UM's running backs are average, at best. (A superior running back can be a game breaker. Remember the difference Edge made in the UCLA game? Remember the Emerald NUTZ Bowl?) We definitely need an upgrade.
3. New recruits Miller and James are good - but not nearly as good as Bryce. (Bryce has Adrian Petersen type talent. He's big, fast, and strong. He definitely can be a starter next year, and not merely a capable back-up for JJ and Coop.)
4. Losing a top-rated commitment is bad PR. It says (to fans and 2010 recruits alike) that UM is still nowhere near the top tier of college FB teams.
5. The "family image" (i.e., UM's big selling point) is undermined when family members spurn the U for a school clear across the country.
6. FSU is getting stronger. FSU (and maybe NC too) will have a top-ten recruiting class this year, and will do better than UM if we lose Bryce. We can't win the ACC, if we can't beat FSU. (I'm tired of losing to FSU. Aren't you?).

nemo2002

PS. Reason six: If we lose Bryce, we may lose Arthur too.


PS. Reason SEVEN (not six).

Sorry about the typo.

Hey nemo2002, you forget one thing, the Edge had an O-LINE. We have NO O-LINE. You could be Bo Jackson in his prime, and not run good behind our line. That's why this recruiting needs to focus on that. Plus the fact that we end getting behind in games, and have to go to the pass. JJ, and Coop are solid backs, but they need a little help too.

DA U N HOUSTON, what you know about Horace Mann... Man, where I'm at, if not for the net, I probably wouldn't have heard the name of that school again.

For all the comments about Shannon's defensive rankings, what about the offense? That's where the downfall truly came from:

2002: Ranked 5th
2003: Ranked 46th
2004: Ranked 23rd
2005: Ranked 44th
2006: Ranked 89th
2007: Ranked 110th
2008: Ranked 89th

This downfall is the result of recruiting (or lack of it) on offense. The last I checked, Randy Shannon wasn't out there between 2002 and 2006 trying to keep Preston Parker from going to FSU, or sign a quarterback.

CaneRock,

You know it....don't get caught on the brigde solo...lol..lol....great times....

ColaCane, . . . [cool name, by the way] . . . I don't disagree with your comment about Edge's O-Line. Nevertheless, his performance in that game was still the stuff of legend.

I have been saying for the last 18 months - on this blog and elsewhere - that UM desperately needs to focus more of recruitment of linemen rather than stockpiling a huge cadre of so-called "skill players." Indeed, a good OL would make our offnse a lot more offensive!

Neverthless, for the reasons I stated above - UM NEEDS BRYCE.

UM needs to be able to recruit EXCEPTIONAL 5-star-type players like BB, if we are going to consistently beat the FSUs, VTs, GTs, NCs, NCSTs of this world - or nonconference teams like UF and Oklahoma - and maybe compete once more for a NC.

After realizing Vernon is listed at 240lb, his numbers are not bad. I weigh 220, so he is ok. I thought he was OL.

nemo2002: u make a good point on bb i do see him as a game breaker he has the ability i just wish he has the mentality like brandon mcgee a die hard cane but if his goals are set that high the only two teams i see is oregon and miami but i don't know about the whole we may loose recruits i think miami can sell on tradition and history alone thats my opinion i think we may nab him at the end ( bb) with our OC i see we are looking at greg reid now which is great i just want 2 o-lineman or 3 randy knows the battle is won in the trenches on o-line and d-line so he is making a hard push so hopefully we nab these studs like bb or marcus hall or bunche and the rest of the recruits to get back punish with the run and and kill them soflty with play action

It's funny how everyone thinks we should have recruited OL, do you think they didn't try??? They went after all 3 players from ST. Thomas a few years ago, 2 went to ND and 1 went UA. They have been trying, but it is hard to get great OL players to come to Miami. They have 3 OL players coming in this year and they also have 6 more visiting. That's called doing everything you can do, but if they sign eleswhere then what can you do?

Brown AKA Patrick Johnson?????? If he doesn't want to play for the U then I wish him well, just stop acting like your god's gift to the world and pick a team.

Anyone know where I can find the 2009 schedule?

2009
Week 1- Miami 63 FAAMU 7
Week 2- Miami 31 Oklahoma 27
Week 3- Miami 49 Who cares 10
Week 4- Miami 52 Who cares 3
Week 5- Miami 34 FSU 13
Week 6- Miami 24 Virginia Tech 10
Week 7- Miami 42 Duke 10
Week 8- Miami 37 North Carolina 17
Week 9- Miami 42 North Carolina State 13
Week 10- Miami 33 Georgia Tech 21
Week 11- Miami 41 Boston College 16
Week 12- Miami 34 Maryland 10

2010 Rosebowl Miami 27 Florida 24

thanks tro.

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Join the Palm Beach 'Canes Club for the Miami/UNC gamewatch party at Bar Louie in City Place on Saturday, January 17th at 9pm!

550 S. Rosemary
West Palm Beach

'Canes drink specials provided. GO 'CANES!

Looks like Marves HS coach has settled things with the U. This is a good read.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/preps/article967748.ece

Are we really going to average 40 points a game next year?

I wanna smoke what Tro is smoking.

not really

Looks like Marves HS coach has settled things with the U. This is a good read.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/preps/article967748.ece

Posted by: Cane-ex | January 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM


Thanks for the update Cane-ex.

WOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE ABOUT ADVERSITY? IT"S OPPORTUNITY ONCE YOU USE YOUR FAITH. WHILE SOME ARE STEADY TALKING DOWN ABOUT COACH SHANNON. THE PEOPLE WHO MEANS THE MOST, THE RECRUITED PLAYERS AREN'T LISTENING. THEY ARE STILL COMING TO THE UM AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. NOT GOOD PLAYERS, BUT TEAM PLAYERS WHO BELIEVE IN WHAT THE UM STANDS FOR. I HOPE WHOEVER THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR IS, THEY WILL NOT BE AFRAID TO ALLOW JACORY HARRIS TO EVENTUALLY CALL HIS OWN PLAYS.THE U.M. STANDS FOR (UNIFIED MAGNIFICENCE)

PSALMS 121

6. FSU is getting stronger. FSU (and maybe NC too) will have a top-ten recruiting class this year, and will do better than UM if we lose Bryce. We can't win the ACC, if we can't beat FSU. (I'm tired of losing to FSU. Aren't you?).

nemo2002

PS. Reason six: If we lose Bryce, we may lose Arthur too.


Posted by: nemo2002 | January 16, 2009 at 09:54 AM


Where is this top 10 FSU recruiting class? I see a couple of good players, but no top 10 ranking. Most of those good players are local, North Florida area products. Not saying they aren't getting better, but they won't have a top ten recruiting class. Its not only about the players, but how they pan out. We have had some 5 stars that didn't pan out and some 3 stars that did great (Leggett, Ryan Moore, Wright). Look at 3 star Ali Highsmith (ended up going to LSU after he couldn't get in to UM and was All American LB), Sinorice Moss, Glenn Cook, and Colin McCarthy. Its not all about the stars, its about what they do once they get here and what type of character, desire, and smarts they have just as much as their athletic ability.

For several years, UF recruited great players right from under the U's nose, snatching Tebow (the Heisman trophy winner who Coker wanted to make a tight end - no joke) the Lakeland national championship team (the Pounceys, Rainey, Black), and the other great Florida players that played in the State Champtionship games that were played in Dolfin Stadium during those years. While Coker went around the country chasing five-star players who he didn't know or see, other teams picked off Florida players, rose from the ashes and flourished on South Florida recruits. But now, Sheriff Randy Shannon is in town and we are keeping some of those players and FSU, UF, and other competing programs around the country don't like it

Windy 1, sorry but I don't agree that we had much of a shot at Tebow or the kids from Lakeland. Those areas are pretty tough because that is the gators backyard, much like North Florida is FSU's backyard. Sure we steal a few kids (Buchanon, Portis, Holton, Hill, Threat) from outside of South Florida (this year the Seminole kids), but by far they have a bigger advantage up there then we do. Not saying we can't do it, but there are less kids coming out from up there than down here and its harder to get them when the crazies up there will go nuts if they leave town. If a kid up there makes a choice on signing day its a good bet he can leave the area cause he doesn't want to hear it from Nole and Gator fans day in and day out. Look at the 5 star corner from Tallahassee Lincoln who went to USC. Everyone thought he would wind up at USC, but he waited until signing day and chose the Trojans. People up there put a lot more pressure on those kids to stay then we do in South Florida, not to mention there are more kids playing D1 football in South Florida.

I meant they thought he would wind up at FSU, and he ended up a trojan.


Greg Reid

Lowndes (Ga.) cornerback Greg Reid recently opened up his commitment after being committed to Florida since last February.

Now, a number of schools have jumped at the opportunity to recruit Reid, the second-best cornerback and 15th overall prospect according to ESPN.com.

"It's been crazy with people calling me," Reid said.

Reid recently took an official visit to Florida State and is headed to Florida this weekend. Then, he will take a visit to Alabama on January 23 followed by a visit to Georgia on January 30.

As of now, he has one visit open and that could be a trip to Miami.

"I don't have any time right now, but I'd be very interested in going down there," Reid said. "Ray Ray Armstrong told me that's a beautiful place to go visit. It's a possibility."

Reid wants to get another visit in, possibly during the week, with signing day coming up on February 4 although prospects do have time after signing day to ink their letter of intent.

Miami assistant coach Clint Hurtt visited Reid earlier this week and UM is expected to visit again next week.

"Miami is Miami," Reid said. "South Beach. The University of Miami, I like the type of atmosphere around the team, but other than that, they had a good recruiting class last year and a good one this year."

Reid developed a good relationship with Armstrong, a Miami commit, at the Under Armour All-American Game in Orlando earlier this month.

"He was real cool," Reid said.

Within the last month, just before the Under Armour game, Reid found out one of his cousins is Jamal Reid, a Miami commit from Mayo, Fla.

"We found out and I have talked to him a little bit," Greg said.

Reid was named MVP of the Under Armour Game as he recorded two interceptions.

He finished his senior year with 1,242 rushing yards, 234 receiving yards, and scored 16 touchdowns while earning State Player of the Year honors.

what kills me is everyone names the underachievers on off. and def. from past years, but no-one says why they were underachieving. maybe it was lack of coaching from the coordinators. oh yeah, that would mean shannon. good chance thats the problem. keep making excuses, and the gaytors will have 6 before um wins 9 in a season. shannon is pathetic. all i see is hes a recruiter. but no-one can defend his coaching, because there is no proof. the defense was getting worse each year, especially when stoops left. it seems the shannon-shalala cool-aid is working and most of you drank more than you should. FIRE SHANNON SAVE MIAMI FOOTBALL FIRE SHANNON

Manny,

Thanks for bringing the news! I'm really glad Vernon decided to stick with the Canes. The kid wants to win an NC and I totally respect that. Our D-line is going to be flat out scary with guys like Forston, Regis, Lewis, blowing up the middle while Bailey, Robinson, Ojomo, and now Vernon bring the heat from the edges. Anyone know if Moncur will get a medical redshirt?

WE NEED AN OC...AND REALLY SOON!!!

Oh yeah,

Good luck with the ankle rehab OV, you're in great hands with the UM medical staff.

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Mike

Miami's defense was the only strong point in these recent down years. When Shannon was promoted, he picked the wrong type of guy to run his defense and it was horrible. Now he's hired Bill Young and already he's turned it around. When Miami's OC from the championship years left, that's when the offense fell. Once we get someone in, we'll be back on top.

mike-You may want to rethink your statement. You obviously don't read what others post. I'll post Shannon's coaching credentials as our defensive coordinator. This is what our defense ranked in total defense under him:

2001 - 6th
2002 - 7th
2003 - 2nd
2004 - 28th
2005 - 4th
2006 - 7th

I hope you cheer up a little. You might want to do a little research before you say "no-one can defend his coaching."

CaliCandesFan-I agree with your overall point. However, our OC during the Davis era did not leave. He was promoted to HC. Then he was fired. Does that story sound familiar?.....You guessed it, it was Coker. I honestly believe that Coker's downfall was that he could not recruit. He could definitly coach. As evidenced by our offensive success under Davis.

I don't mean to sound like a smartass. I was just being humorous.

How about rehiring Coker as our OC. His offense is exactly what Shannon is looking for. I know it sounds ridiculous because people see him as a failure. However, he was our OC from 1995 to 2000. I would love to see someone try and argue that our offense sucked under him. That's also a track record of success. He runs the exact offense that Shannon wants this team to run. Sounds like a perfect fit to me. He's actually younger than Bill Young, despite looking like he is 80.

How about rehiring Coker as our OC. His offense is exactly what Shannon is looking for. I know it sounds ridiculous because people see him as a failure. However, he was our OC from 1995 to 2000. I would love to see someone try and argue that our offense sucked under him. That's also a track record of success. He runs the exact offense that Shannon wants this team to run. Sounds like a perfect fit to me. He's actually younger than Bill Young, despite looking like he is 80.

Guess I have a faulty memory,..., I remember tons of criticism by the fans and media of the OC, Larry Coker, during the Butch Davis years. It was something about being unimaginative with the fantastic talent that Butch was bringing in via track scholarships, etc., in spite of NCAA sanctions.

Logan is leaving his position as OC for BC...kinda suddenly too. Anyone think he might be buying up some SoFla real estate soon?

MAnny- Your UM blogs and info pieces are invaluable to our community, and UM family. Can't imagine where we'd be without this inside info. Thanks.

From ESPN.com

Boston College offensive coordinator Steve Logan has decided to leave the program, the school announced Friday.

Logan's decision leaves the Eagles without both of their coordinators just weeks before signing day, as former defensive coordinator Frank Spaziani was promoted to head coach after Jeff Jagodzinski was fired.

"Steve has done an outstanding job as our offensive coordinator the past two seasons," Spaziani stated in a prepared release. "The BC football family is appreciative of his efforts and wishes him well."


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Logan joined the BC staff with Jagodzinski in 2007 after two seasons as quarterbacks and wide receivers coach with the Berlin Thunder of NFL Europe and one season as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach with the Rhein Fire. Before his stint in NFL Europe, Logan served as the head coach of East Carolina from 1992 to 2002.

Logan and Jagodzinski had a coaching history together. They worked at ECU under coach Bill Lewis from 1989 to 1992. When Logan succeeded Lewis, Jagodzinski remained on staff for another four years before accepting the offensive coordinator position at Boston College.

Logan was tasked this season with ushering along quarterback Chris Crane, who was a first-year starter following the departure of first-round NFL draft pick Matt Ryan.

Crane managed the offense well enough to put the Eagles in contention to win the Atlantic Division, which they did, but Crane broke his collarbone in a Nov. 22 win against Wake Forest.

BC's offense struggled against Virginia Tech in the ACC championship game with redshirt freshman Dominique Davis, who was making only his second career start, and the offense also stalled in a 16-14 loss to Vanderbilt in the Music City Bowl.

what was the score against the ONLY really good offenses in those years. remember louisville, 2 times, the defense didnt do so good. florida in the OB. of course having a gator qb wasnt good either, til the end. lsu in the peach bowl, miami played good for about 5 minutes. then lsu did anything they wanted. remember too, the opposition in the big least wasnt exactly offensive. boston coll, VT, good defenses but not really offensive powers.no shannons defenses were overrated. look at ANY team with a really good offense, and um could not stop them. now i agree the offense constantly put the def. in BAD situations, but so far, in 2 years, except the recruiting thing, which right now is all hype til proved on the field, shannon has not proved he can do anything. he obviously needs help in hiring coordinators. its the last year of watching a team, with GREAT players wandering around like they are lost.

Mike-You are going to site one game where we gave up alot of points to prove your point. One game. Is that all you have. We have rankings for entire seasons that show how good our defense was. We almost won 3 NC. In one year there was controversy with the BCS then we slapped UF around in the Sugar Bowl. The next year we won it all. The year after that, all I have to say is pass interference and the video replays in fans minds. You do not fake a top 10 defense year in and year out. As you said our offense was putting our defense in bad situations once the heart of Butch's players left, which, any person that understands football knows will eventually tire out a defense, no matter how much depth you have. Despite that, Shannon had a top 10 defense every year except one.

In the Louisville game our offense only scored 7 points that tells me that our defense was on the field the entire game. Our offense turned the ball over twice and we did not run the ball. Our defense held them scoreless the 1st quarter. Then it hit the fan in the second. The LSU game is the same exact story. They gave up a FG in the 1st, then the flood gates opened up. There was no depth in those games. I was there for that Gator game. The offense didn't do anything until they stuck Berlin in the shotgun late in the game. That's when we finally turned it around. btw-in the years you're talking about we were already in the ACC.

In the Louisville game our offense only scored 7 points that tells me that our defense was on the field the entire game. Our offense turned the ball over twice and we did not run the ball. Our defense held them scoreless the 1st quarter. Then it hit the fan in the second. The LSU game is the same exact story. They gave up a FG in the 1st, then the flood gates opened up. There was no depth in those games. I was there for that Gator game. The offense didn't do anything until they stuck Berlin in the shotgun late in the game. That's when we finally turned it around. btw-in the years you're talking about we were already in the ACC.

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oaktre-mike named four games. and since coker won with butch's boys, you have to give the defense credit to butch also. since the ohio state game, when we won the #6, the defense struggled more each year as guys graduated. why didnt shannon recruit players for HIS defense to maintain. i know coker didnt help, but neither did shannon, when stoops left, the first rounders have gone too. that is because shannon cant coach like stoops did. mike is right, shannon hasnt proved anything if you look at these last 2 years. notre dame always has top classes, but without coaching it doesnt matter. i read somewhere here, miami is irrelevant and that is true. in all honesty, if this year goes like the last, and no real progress is made, will people still be shannon fans. the acc is weak, and miami should be winning most acc games, not just getting by beating duke, losing to nc state, teams they should on talent alone beat. they are outcoached by inferior teams. that is not a good sign

spike: you have to understand U need to give randy time.Its to much to ask for to turn a team around that was on a downward trend when it was coker"s last yr 7-6. what makes you think a man can turn it around like that, not many can. and i say 2005 was our last best chance to get in a bcs because our defense kept us in games so with that being said our offense was crap, so naming a couple of games that ppl scored on us, while ppl are naming seasons to this Shannon's credit is dumb you can't argue with that(mike).And until Shannon recruits come of age just like coker did then you evaluate until then chill out please.

Spike-Sorry dude I don't agree with you at all. First of all, Butch Davis left after 2000. That means his guys were gone after 04. So, you are still looking at Shannon's defensive ranks as 28th, 4th, and 7th. I would chalk the 28th up to needing to retool because recruiting was probably tough with all the depth we had on defense. If you look at the first two years of Butch's reign starting from when he went below .500, he won 8 games in the second year. Shannon won one less. That is pretty much even. The year after that I believe we won 8 or 9. So, next year I would like for this team to win 8 or 9 games. I just want to see them win more games. If you didn't notice I addressed the four games he talked about in my post right after the one where I made the mistake of saying he only brought up one. Seriously, if only 4 out 72 games had poor defensive efforts. That's still awesome.

yeah right

how much time did it take saban, meyer,stoops, even butch is at least showing things in nc, mich state has a 1st yr coach-they did better--all just excuses to the truth. how much time 3,4,5,6,7,8yrs there should be more than just recruiting hype to show shannon is not going to get the job done especially changing coordinators every 2 yrs. sooner or later, shannon must be held accountable

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