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Young 'torn' over leaving UM

If you haven't heard by now, the University of Miami is dangerously close to having to find a replacement for another coordinator position. Oklahoma State has come after defensive coordinator Bill Young, offering him $700,000 to leave the program -- much more than he currently makes with the Canes. Even the highest paid coordinators rarely make more than $500,000. 

When reached by phone Monday morning by The Miami Herald, Young told our Barry Jackson "I'm very torn." Young said he would let us know once he reached a decision (possibly tonight), but we believe there is a strong chance Young will opt to leave. Here's Barry's story.

Bill Young
Oklahoma City is where Young was born and raised and Oklahoma State is where Young played outside linebacker and defensive end from 1965 to 67. Young, 61, has spent 22 seasons as a defensive coordinator. He came over from Kansas last season to replace Tim Walton. The Canes didn't perform very well -- especially on run defense, where it ranked 75th. But Miami still ranked 28th in the nation in total defense (317.4 yards) and seventh in pass defense (165.6 yards) -- despite intercepting just four passes all year.

Young's loss would hurt Miami, especially since the team is in the midst of searching for an offensive coordinator. I spoke to two sources this afternoon who told me coach Randy Shannon is hoping to hire an offensive coordinator by the end of this week, most likely Friday. Now, it appears likely he'll be looking to fill another position in the coming weeks. 

FYI, I would be I highly surprised if Shannon would simply take over as defensive coordinator should Young leave. Shannon said last season when he was searching for a defensive coordinator there was too much responsibility as the head coach.

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"Now Allen that you claim to be "a cane's fan", where would you direct these "tons of talents recruit" to go? just asking"

Good point, they probably only qualify to go to D-II schools.

UM has money and anyone who frequents the campus can see it is spent on athletics along with everything else:

The University of Miami became the first university to reach the record-setting billion dollar milestone (1.4 billion) in the state of Florida and one of the youngest in the nation to embark on this endeavor. Of the 56 Universities that have run billion dollar campaigns, UM is one of only four Universities established in the 20th Century and the only private University to achieve this high mark.

Calm down folks....the sky is not falling...I don't think it would be the best for the program if Randy did both HC/DC.....and sorry, I don't think Hurt or Barrow is ready (Though Barrow is close)..its takes time....and I would not be surprised if the DC from Georgia did make the switch to UM, it'll b just like Young going "home"....and I don't think he's salary will be 700K, but he'll probably go for less....and don't be STUPID, its not Randy not keeping him or having a good relationship dummy, just like USC looses coordinators yearly, everyone knows and sees how good Young is.....Funny, just yesterday we had an IDIOT on here b--ching how bad Young was, but they are gone (can't remember the idiots name so we'll just call him/her, IDIOT)....but anyway, now that Young is wanted by others that convo has ended and IDIOT II is now on here saying how Randy is a bad coach and its his fault......you got to laugh at this......Does anyone notice that throughout all this that Randy is still out recruiting (visited L. Miller last night)...he is about winning....recurits, game, boys to MEN......I think Ripple is the guy....did a great job with Ben Rothlesberger, and now with McNabb....and I think hiring a DC (if need be) would be easier then an OC...

DA U N Houston? Because Randy is out recruiting everything is alright? What was he supposed to do? Sit home and cry? Miami is in shambles and still heading down. Keep your head in the sand and continue with the, "everything is okay" line.

When Bryce spurns U keep saying everything is okay

When U land TWO completely unheard of unproven coordinators keep saying everything is okay

When miniscule Beanpole Harris gets crushed keep saying everything is okay

When Georgia Tech SLAUGHTERS U for FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO YARDS RUSHING keep saying everything is okay

When your 5-star QB BOLTS to get away from your clueless head coach keep saying everything is okay

This is not about Bill Young-he's replaceable.

This is about whether UM can (or will) make the financial committment necessary to compete at the top level of the sport. Talent alone is not enough-it must be developed.

This program is at a crossroad-which path will they choose?

It's not really about the money at the U. Shalala and the administration just raised 1 billion dollars (with a "B") in private donations in the last two years for an endowment for the university.

Do they have the money to match the reported (and denied by OSU)700,000 to Bill Young? Yes. Will they match? No. Think about it...would you?

Coker was making as much as anyone in college football when he was HC. Randy was one of the highest paid assistants in football when he was DC. Big money can get you Stoops and Saban and Carroll, but it can also get you Charlie Weis, Kirk Ferentz and Dennis Franchione.

Miami has always been a unique place for coaches from JJ to Dennis to Butch. Think of all the coaches who left during that time. The coaches who come to Miami have always been like the great players who come here...three or four years and off to the pros.

So relax, take a deep breath and things will work out. The players are coming and the coaches always follow the players. I hope Young doesn't leave because Okie State will never win a Big 12 title or NC because they play in the South (Texas, OU, Texas Tech) and I think Bill wants to play for the big one. If he leaves, Randy will find someone like him and the U will move on.

DA U n houston: U are rite on so many levels all I hear is how we are down in out but randy is worried about recruiting and showing these boys no matter what goes on at the U Randy priority is about winning.And all these idiots saying it's randy fault, how is that? the man (don't know the actual numbers) is getting offer some money at his old alma mater if it was these hypocrites yall would do the same with the econonmy the way it is.And for this guy that is saying how we are "goobers" man y are you on this blog? this is UM we won't do what U do, and that is lay down and take in in the A** we aren't b****** like you. stay of the blog man

Nemo,

Miami was paying Young more than all but USC and Texas from your list. The rest of the list had DC making less than $300k/yr while Young was at $350k. Everyone needs to stop with the Miami doesnt pay anything rap.

this is UM we won't do what U do, and that is lay down and take in in the A** we aren't b****** like you

- pay attention to the U

great post. Highly reasoned and intelligent. You should be writing this blog

NOBODY pays attention to the U because U have been irrelevant for years goober. U are clueless

What have U done in the last 5 years that is worthy of mentioning other than brawling with FIU ?

"no matter what goes on at the U Randy priority is about winning..." Sorry goober, Donna threw that aside years ago (see: coker, shannon)


U R kidding right????? Im sure Randy was prioritizing winning during GT week. OR maybe he was sleeping on his office sofa.
pay scraps and get c r a p s

EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT: Y ARE U ON THIS BLOG Y ? DO U HATE UM THAT MUCH? NOBODAY CARES WHAT U SAY ALL UR HATE IS FALLING UPON DEAF EARS IDIOT SO THIS LITTLE SO CALLED REBILION THAT U ARE DOING CAN END BECAUSE IM A DIE HARD CANE FAN SO GET OFF THE BLOG. DUMBa@@

It would not be a great thing if Young left, I agree. However, if he does go, so be it. Some of you people are such drama queens, who act like the whole program should shut down. Everybody acts like this is all so destructive if Young does leave. "Oh, how will we recover". Give me a break. We have a bunch of above average ballers who came to this team last year and that will becoming this year. How about some support for the players who are not transferring and the coaches who are gonna be here. Forget about recruits not wanting to come to The U because of the coaching situation. If I was a recruit I would be a little concerned about the lack of support from the fans. Quit crying and show some support. That's why these Gator fans come on here because a lot of the people on here just love to cry about stuff and if they say one thing, people just bite. I'm gonna say it right now. We are gonna kick ASS next year with all the new recruits from this class and last years no matter who's coaching at whatever position. I'm gonna save this post on my laptop and bust it out at the end of the season next year!

Manny, anyword on this Jacory press conference?

U MUST BE THE MOST LONELY INDIVIDUAL TO EVER WRITE ON A BLOG. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE PERSON TALK ABOUT EVERY UM SUPPORTER IF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE UM SUPPORTER TO MAKE GOOD OUT OF A BAD SITUATION. U JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE OUR HEAD'S TUCK IN OUR A**. COME ON MAN U KNOW THAT WON'T HAPPEN WHO ARE U TRYING TO SWITCH OVER WITH THSES POSTS? SURE AS HELL NOT ME SO STOP HIDING BEHIND UR COMPUTER MAN IF U HAVE HAVE A DEBATE THEN TALK. Y ATTACK EVERYPERSON WHEN U WOULDN'T DO IT FACE TO FACE JUST CHILL OUT AND BE EASY AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S A GAME BUDDY. GET A LIFE. THIS IS THE U BUDDY WE WILL NEVER DIE SO KEEP ON HATING AND IF U DON'T THINK UR HATING. THEN Y COME ON THE BLOG JUST TO TALK SMACK?

what U fail to realize spyhazard is that the coaching staff DOES NOT develop the talent that comes in. UM has ALWAYS gotten good talent. U have squandered it for YEARS. That's not changing with the Randy at the helm. Watch how Bryce bails on U.

U have your head in the sand

U READ EVERY SINGLE WORD I TYPE pay atttention to the U. EVERY SINGLE WORD. Don't hate because your program is in shambles. Just keep typing in caps fool. U R an embarrassment to intelligent cane fans

Where did U learn to type "pay attention to the U"? I'm sure you're a master at texting but U are flat out pathetic at composing logical sentences in ENGLISH.

Learn how to speak goober. Or just keep posting rambling nonsense.

"....THIS LITTLE SO CALLED REBILION "

Dude, do all cane fans a favor and kindly shut up.

what the h e l l is a "REBILION"????????

LOL WOW U ARE FUNNY THAT IS UR COMEBACK? WOW U R A HYPOCRITE. U ARE USING CAPS AS WEL RITE, OR AM I JUST SEEING THINGS? THAT IS UR ARGUMENT IS CAPS? LOL WOW LIKE I SAID U ARE LONELY FIND A MAN OR A WOMAN DO SOMETHING WITH UR SELF.

IM MOCKING U YA GIANT TOOL

everything will be alright: since i can't make a logical sentence tell me which is better "UM ALWAYS GOOD TALENT" OR UM ALWAYS RECEIVE'S GOOD TALENT MY 3 YR OLD COUSIN CAN MAKE A BETTER SENTECE WHAT A "GOOBER"

"um always gotten good talent" or um always receieve good talent?

Agreed with above poster about the bad timing, and with no OC named either. Not sure how this will affect signing day for recruits.

I wouldn't blame Young if he decided to leave. Family is a big issue and the extra $$'s doesn't hurt either. And who knows how much control Shannon is allowing coordinator's. Something's going on that most of us do not know about.

I also am wondering if Shalala wants to get rid of the football program, and if Shannon feels he can do everything himself. I understand RS's background, and he is a great recruiter, and I'll give him some time, but not all coordinator's make it as HC's but you never know until you have tried.

actually u are not pay attention to ur earlier comments u idiot so please show me where u seen me comment b4 ur prior to ur post and show me if u did use caps on your post DA U N Houston? Because Randy is out recruiting everything is alright? What was he supposed to do? Sit home and cry? Miami is in shambles and still heading down. Keep your head in the sand and continue with the, "everything is okay" line.

When Bryce spurns U keep saying everything is okay

When U land TWO completely unheard of unproven coordinators keep saying everything is okay

When miniscule Beanpole Harris gets crushed keep saying everything is okay

When Georgia Tech SLAUGHTERS U for FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO YARDS RUSHING keep saying everything is okay

When your 5-star QB BOLTS to get away from your clueless head coach keep saying everything is okay

Posted by: EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT | January 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Manny, any thoughts on who you think the next Offensive Coordinator will be? Just curious.

Manny have you heard who the actual candidates really are? Ron Prince?

*receive

Maybe UM Football should ask Congress for some bailout money. Cause its surely running out of money. lol

Manny, today was the first day of the spring semester. Can you tell us who the early enrollees are? Who didnt make it?

Posted by: EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT | January 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

We have a winner for "The Bigest Loser on the Web" Contest...

NOTHING SAYS LOSER LIKE POSTING ON A RIVALS BLOG 6 MONTHS AFTER THE GAME IS HAS BEEN PLAYED

Go 'canes!

Posted by: EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT | January 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

If you are wondering why this Gaytor honk is always on our blog, it's because there is never anyone on their blog to talk to!

I went to see how many posts the Gaytor Clause blog has generated today, and it was a big ZERO! I was the 1st and ONLY poster when I arrived! Nice!!

HEY KEHOE, YOUR MOM AND I LEFT YOU SOME OVALTINE AND POPTARTS ON THE COUNTER FOR YOUR BREAKFAST TOMORROW. THERE'S MILK IN THE FRIDGE, AND YOUR TIM TEBOW JAMMIES ARE IN THE DRYER. THE JAMMIES ARE CLEAN, BUT I CANNOT GET THE SMELL OF URINE OUT OF THE BOTTOMS! PUT YOURSELF TO BED TONIGHT "LITTLE MAN", YOUR MOM IS NOT COMING HOME AGAIN!

Go 'canes!!

Sarasota 'cane is the foamy mouth loser canesrule 9 'ships.

Stool this blog by far has the least intelligent U fans. It all adds up that U have landed on this pile of shyt. Guess U got tired of getting smoked elsewhere.

Great job on the Tim Tebow comments. I'm sure he pees his pajamas everyday U fool. U forgot to include your standard mindless gay/oral fixation comments . And you forgot to include your standard blow up doll comments. And don't forget to tell everyone how randy is "kicking Urban's a**"

U are the biggest tool on the intertubes. Great hiding place over here though. Do you post on the worst blog in the world, Canespace?

Your coaching staff is in Shambles.

Randy Shannon couldn't hold Charlie Strong's jock.

your letting your anger get the best of you canesrule as you are letting your canesrule persona co-mingle with your sarasota persona.

FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO YARDS surrrendered by "Bill Young's blitzing defense."

Go tell fans on the GT message board how the U is marching back baby

I'm not canesrule loser!

I'M BATMAN!!

Go 'canes!

U aren't canesrule? riiiiiiiiiiight. It just is a coincidence that both of U roll out the tired Tebow pajamas schtick? riiiiiiiiight.

Who cares. With either name you are still a clueless imbecile.

But keep wearing those U goggles fool. Your ignorance about the state of UM football is endlessly amusing.

All is OK! Look at USC, they lost their OC, DC and other coaches and they still have a top 5 recruiting class. We will still end up with a great recruiting class and great coaches.

Don't listen to all the negative Gator hate, they are worried about us beating them in the BCS game next year!

Go Canes!

Posted by: Cane-ex | January 20, 2009 at 09:17 AM


I really wish I could believe you Cane-ex. One major difference you're not taking into account is that USC has a more than experienced HC in Pete Carrol and Miami's got Randy. Not that I'm against Randy (not yet, at least), but Carrol is obviously more experienced and better and that makes a world of difference. Also, USC has not plummeted to the basement during the past few years like we did. So all is NOT ok; we'll have to wait and see how all of this pans out.

I was really excited to see Miami get B.Young for D.Coordinator but Miami can't compete w/ a billionaire who can pay him whatever he wants and it's his alma- mater and his home so you can't fault him. I agree that Hurtt nor Barrow should not be appointed for the position because it would be like Coker all over again. W. Martinez makes sense. He is a cane which ironically alot of you Shannon bashers like someone in the family but if Young leaves, I trully believe there would be alot of coaches in both pro and college that would be interested in working withthe talent out there. I'm gonna throw a wild darkhorse candidate out there. Romeo Crennel. Might be a bit of a reach and he may or may not command a high salary but what a statement that would make but if we do get someone from the pro ranks, it would probably be a position coach.

i know the best way to keep bryce brown... bring back coach soldinger!!

http://www.collegefootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
read first article

I am hoping Shannon turns out to be like Mack Brown. (grew up a Canes fan, went to Texas). Everyone there said Mack was a recruiter but couldn't coach, but then came Vince and a championship (though it really looked like Vince did all the work).

If you can keep recruiting high quality talent, and gain experience as a coach, you have a good shot to do some great things. Like one poster said, Shannon is still new to coaching (not the exact words he used). I think if he can continue to get recruits (which he should be able to do) we will be able to go far with him.

As for coordinators leaving, it happens. Miami is a small private school, OSU just got a couple hundred million dollars specifically for the football program from 1 donor. We can't compete with that for money (or any other large public school). We never could.

This will slow us down a bit, but with the talent we have, it should not hurt us that much.

Go Canes

Front runner for OC job is Philadelphia Eagles Asssistant Coach Mark Whipple. He would be a fantastic choice. Veteran coach who has seen it all. I'm pumped!!!!!!! Go Canes!!!!
Bryce Brown will definately be a Cane!!

Mark Whipple will light up the scoreboard!!!!! Go Canes!!!!!!!

Word on campus is there is a highly touted recruit who decided not to play football in college who is a current freshman at UM. He wants to join the team but they have a strict no spring walk on policy. UM needs Adam Frater.

Manny,

Do you see Bill Young leaving as a blow to our chances to get Bryce Brown signed?

What I'm trying to say is, will Arthur have a hard time re-learning the new defense, since he had trouble last year, and get discouraged/want to transfer? I feel like he is so close to seeing the field, and if Young leaves, there will probably be other LBs who can learn the defense quicker, and talent-wise, they're not far off.

Will this push Arthur away and, in turn, dissuade Bryce from committing?

Manny I need an update, im going crazy... Is Young staying or going, whos the next OC?? Whats latest with Bryce?

Just a thought, but if Willie Martinez comes in as DC, could it increase our chances with Greg Reid's recruitment??

U aren't canesrule? riiiiiiiiiiight. It just is a coincidence that both of U roll out the tired Tebow pajamas schtick? riiiiiiiiight.

Posted by: Dr. Jack Van Impe | January 20, 2009 at 01:12 PM

You scare me! Is there a more paranoid fool on the web besides you? Nope! YOU ARE IT! You win! It's not even close!! You are the biggest loser on the web! And to think I thought the 'canes had issues! Please! End the contest now! We have a winner!

On a side note loser, I have never, and I will never post under any name except Sarasota 'cane. Now I have posted under one of your many names on occasion, in order to mock you, but I have never posted under the name canesrule! He's his own persona!

As far as my having a foamy mouth, if your Mom would douche that nasty box once in a while, I could probably take care of that issue as well!

POOR LITTLE KEHOE, YOU GOT YOUR NEW CRYSTAL FOOTBALL, AND YOU STILL CANNOT FIND ANY GAYTOR'S WHO WANT TO PLAY WITH YOU!

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LOSER ON THE WEB!

Go 'canes!!

P.S. When/if I meet you in person Kehoe, you will curl up in a little ball and crap yourself!

Don't worry though little man, I won't punch you, I'll just slap you on your fat cheeks until they turn bright red, then I'll give you a wedgie, and send you home crying to your Mommy! You are such a puzzy!

POOR LITTLE KEHOE, YOU GOT YOUR NEW CRYSTAL FOOTBALL, AND YOU STILL CANNOT FIND ANY GAYTOR'S WHO WANT TO PLAY WITH YOU!

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LOSER ON THE WEB!

Go 'canes!!

Great threats sarasota-canesrule. Keep up the good work tool.

What time is the Bill Young announcement?

Say goodbye to Bryce. Arthur is whispering in his ear.

Billy Young "loves the beaches" but realizes what a train wreck randy is

Kirby Haircut is ready to leave town.

He's gone. The guy would have turned this defense around. The Jayhawks had a good defense the year he left. He will be leaving for all the right reasons. It would be nice to get that ex-Cane as our DC. It avoids the very situation we are in with Bill Young.

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