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Intruders breaching UM's local recruiting wall

Cover your eyes Canes fans, or just turn away. What you are about to read might burn your eyes and cause your blood pressure to rise. Consider this your final warning.

Outsiders are beginning to make serious recruiting inroads into South Florida. Did you hear me? There's been a breach in the Great Wall of Canes. The green and orange protective layer that used to shield the hearts of players born in the area codes of the 954 and 305 is beginning to disappear like the ozone. And if the University of Miami isn't careful, the hole could get bigger. The intrduers could end up becoming permanent residents.

No, I'm not hitting the Hurtt Alert button because the Gators picked up their first commitment from a Miami-Dade player since 2005 in Ransom Everglades linebacker Gideon Ajagbe earlier this week. I'm sounding the Shannon Siren because I'm starting to hear a change in the voices of the kids from just around the corner. I'm starting to get the feeling the Miami magnet -- the one that always seemed to yank kids in South Florida naturally toward Canes nation -- is losing its pull.

Thursday, The Miami Herald hosted a media day for local 2010 recruits. We filmed interviews, took pictures and I got a chance to sit down and talk with many players (and their coaches) who are part of what is expected to be a loaded local signing class this coming February. One by one, I heard the same answers from the recruits I've heard for years. Hialeah defensive end Corey Lemonier, running back Jakhari Gore, Booker T. Washington offensive lineman Jose Jose and Miramar receiver Ivan McCartney all told me they grew up huge fans of the Canes. But what was different listening to these recruits was that there was no longer that overriding sense that their childhood love for UM is going make the Canes the team to beat in the end. What I sensed was a greater awareness from our local players, that there are more choices out there and just because you are from Miami doesn't mean you have to play for the Canes. It sounded to me like many of them have been listening to the other guys.

And the fact local players are beginning to realize that, should scare the heck out of the University of Miami. It may only be the second week of April -- 10 months before anything becomes official on the next National Signing Day. But there are serious signs the old Miami mystique is evaporating. The truth is outsiders have been working hard to make advances for years, and they aren't just knocking on the door anymore. They're busting through it and really are getting into the mind of local players once considered untouchable.

How else can you explain how a player like Booker T. Washington running back Eduardo Clements (the top RB on UM's board) has Georgia as his leader despite the fact his former high school coach works at UM and three of his former teammates are in Coral Gables? How else can you explain why receiver Quinton Dunbar, who committed to UM last month, decided recently he made a mistake and was reopening his recruiting? What started out with the University of South Florida stealing Monsignor Pace's Kayvon Webster on National Signing Day last February is beginning to smell a lot to me like just the start of a fire.

Don't take my word for it. Listen to the kids themselves. The first school out of Lemonier's mouth Thursday was Florida. He said the Gators speak to him more than any other team. Same for about 20 other kids. With two national titles in the last three years, the Gators have the attention of both Dade and Broward -- something they couldn't achieve before. Even FIU is gaining steam. Miami Springs receiver Willis Wright and 2011 recruit Rakeem Cato both told me, "Mario Cristobal is the truth. He recruits you the way you are supposed to be recruited. We can believe him when he says we can go to FIU and be stars there."

Believe me, I'm not relaying this message so guys like Canesrule and FIUFanatic come over to the blog,(which they will) beating their chest and telling the Greens and SarasotaCanes of the world I told you so (which they will). I'm just saying as a guy who has stood on the recruiting fence for 13 years in South Florida, the enemy is moving in and the battles aren't going to be so easy to win anymore. Consider it a warning.

> For those of you interested in watching some of the interviews we conducted, look for the Recruiting Report in our video section to pop up over the next couple of weeks.

BLOG NOTICE: I know many of you have been wondering why I haven't been posting many blogs lately and why I didn't participate in this Tuesday's Q&A. Here's the answer: The Herald moved me late last week onto the Marlins/Baseball beat. It's the result of the loss of four other sports writers following budget cuts last month. 

For now, during the offseason, I'll focus more on the Marlins and local recruiting. I'm going to try and stay on the Canes beat as much as I can between those assignments. But I've got to tell you expect a slow down in production until news happens or football resumes in August. As it stands, other than Canes baseball, it's going to be pretty quiet around UM for the next few month outside of recruits making early commitments. One thing I'd like to do, though, is welcome topical questions through my email as news happens. I'm still going to be talking to sources at UM every now and again to provide you with fresh stuff. But during the down period, I'll welcome topics you guys would like for me to address. It will at the very least keep the blog going.

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Recently heard at "Rhetoric U":

It's all about the U...

You are scared to play the U...

recruits that de-commit or sign elsewhere are scared of competition....

Randy has the program headed in the right direction....

Pay attention to the U....

There is a fence around south Florida.....

We're coming baby....


BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....HURL.

Its ALL TALK U FOOLS

U haven't done ANYTHING in YEARS, keep talking the nonsense.

U won't be doing anything with Randy "Yamamoto" at the helm (google him)

You clowns are certain that the success you had in th EIGHTIES means you will come marching back in 2009. LAUGHABLE!

You have won ONE championship in the last SEVENTEEN YEARS....ONE !

You are an also-ran in the ACC

Remember cane fan...ITS ALL TALK

U haven't done ANYTHING at Rhetoric U

Keep flapping the pie holes. It's FUNNY

Did I mention that U have one ONE national championship in the last SEVENTEEN YEARS. That is NOT a down time you morons.

SEVENTEEN MOTHER F"IN YEARS- ONE TITLE

"boohoo...we got robbed in 02...boohoo..so we have TWO"

SHUT UP ! If you had any sack you would admit that you were outplayed
and LUCKY to be around at the end of that game. But go ahead and blame the loss one ONE play. It was sooo much more than one play.

JUST STOP with all the "we're in a down time" NONSENSE.

You'll soon hit TWENTY years with ONE title and you'll still be talking the "down time" nonsense. You aren't winning ANY NC's with Jacory Harris the Uber baller from NW. Sorry.

those a**holes up the street have 3 titles in the last 13 years

They will soon have 3 titles in 4 years with a back to back and an undefeated. Don't believe it? Go bet against them!

If we include the back 2 backs in hoops, they will soon have FIVE titles in FIVE years. It's even HARDER to win in hoops fools. UM NEVER came anywhere close to those numbers. NEVER will. But keep the rhetoric flowing fools.

That is it. I am stepping away. The recruiting class will be the recruiting class. We will ALWAYS win some and lose some. When we have a position that is already filled, why will someone come here to just sit the bench.The media is out of control, some way shape or form a story has to be written and sometimes the written story is a lot of B S !!!!!

good lord, since when has UM upheld academic standards for athletes like Notre Dame. thats about the worst excuse ive heard for UM not landing a recruit...i expect more from you scUM

Do you enjoy answering your own posts you sacless moron..you are a boy trying to compete over here in a mans game..why hide behide all those names..its not like your IP address doesnt give you away..You must be have deep love for us otherwise why be here..we dont give a damn about your thoughts..go brush that skullet boy and go away...as for the recruiting i agree..it will go on as it always has for years and years...17 and 18 years old kids loving attention(and you cant blame them)but all the florida teams will get their fair share...

the U can't sign every one be sides no school sign all their local talent socal doesn't bama doesn't uga doesn't doesn't ohio st. doesn't all the U has to do is win. schools have been getting players from soflo since the 70 neal colzie doug hill both played at ohio st. lo white mich st. ant carter michigan so this is nothing new these kids are going where they can play now so u run out spots where incoming kids can play so they go somwhere esle manuel don't panic when the u opens up this coming season and go's 4n0 or 3n1 they'll rethink their decision.

the U can't sign every one be sides no school sign all their local talent socal doesn't bama doesn't uga doesn't doesn't ohio st. doesn't all the U has to do is win. schools have been getting players from soflo since the 70 neal colzie doug hill both played at ohio st. lo white mich st. ant carter michigan so this is nothing new these kids are going where they can play now so u run out spots where incoming kids can play so they go somwhere esle manuel don't panic when the u opens up this coming season and go's 4n0 or 3n1 they'll rethink their decision..

telling the Greens of the world
-- manuelito “el gordito” navarro (4/10/08)

let me disabuse you of this notion …

ONE OF A KIND

FIU is the real MIAMI university ...

Posted by: FIURage | April 11, 2009 at 09:05 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/Xeroc/UM/emptyOrangeBowl2.jpg
you mean that tier-4 commuter school located in a flash flood zone …
whose students, faculty & alumni unabashedly root for U …
whose everlasting credo reads …
go to class …
drive away …
never look back …

UNREAL

Let me ask you 'Canes fans a very serious question. What university best represents the city of Miami and South Florida? But before you answer, consider the FACTS (all taken from the latest statistics from US News and World Report rankings):

So, to summarize, the "U" is a mostly white school comprised of out-of-state students, costs 10x as much as FIU to attend, is 3x smaller than FIU, and its academics are AT BEST equal to FIU's.

Posted by: fiu small potatoes | April 11, 2009 at 02:04 PM

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search/c_final_tier+4
the industry bible you cite disagrees …
conveniently omitting your tier-4 ranking …
ashamed?
lumped with such luminaries as Biola University, George Fox University & Trevecca Nazarene University
wow!
know your place …

BIRDS OF A FEATHER

The bottom line is unless you're a rich white person from out-of-state, UM doesn't represent you and they never have.

Find a real way to feel better about yourself.

Posted by: BITTER | April 11, 2009 at 05:26 PM

you get what you pay for

Posted by: gaturd agent provocateur | April 11, 2009 at 07:49 AM

let’s get down to brass tacks …
you couldn’t afford the $teep tuition …

SCHLEPPER

The last person Shannon wants to see prior to signing day is Cristobal walking into a home as Randy is walking out...

Posted by: FIUBlueandGold | April 11, 2009 at 12:49 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/Xeroc/UM/emptyOrangeBowl2.jpg

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2008/09/canes-lead-ag-1.html
Sitting here at a half-empty and embarrassing scene at (18,000-seat) FIU Stadium where the 12th-ranked South Florida Bulls are playing the Golden Panthers.
-- manuelito “el gordito” Navarro (9/20/08)

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fiusports/2007/04/those_days_are__1.html
When the 2006 FIU season officially went in the tank after the Rocky 7 auditions against UM at the OB, there were NOT 2,400 fans in attendance at the last 3 home games.
-- pete "the pied piper" pelegrin (4/07)

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/college/fau/blog/2007/09/fau_students_deserve_better_se.html
FAU announced a paid attendance of 11,398 Saturday. The key word is PAID. In previous years The Suit had gone with actual, or turnstile, attendance, despite most other programs going with paid.
So this year The Suit decided to join them, after watching FIU post attendances of 10,000-plus last season when it was more like 3,000 in the stands.
-- sun sentinel’s ted hutton (9/07)

minor-league athletics with a make-believe fanbase …

DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR

Yea FIU has 150K+ alumni, has been in Div 1A for 3 years and is working on filling up the stadium.
UM has 16K+ students and 2 millions+ fans from just about anyone that can buy a UM car sticker, has been in the college football scene since 1927, and STILL can't fill up a stadium!
HAHAHHAHA

Posted by: FIUFloridaPower&Light | October 08, 2008 at 04:35 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/Xeroc/UM/emptyOrangeBowl2.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0451212975.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

DWARFED

there is enoughg talent to make UM FIU FAU top notch get a clue

Posted by: RealTalk | April 11, 2009 at 06:47 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/classrankings
U get the pick of the litter …
you pick over the carcass …

SCAVENGER HUNT

FIU is taking OVER!

Posted by: FIURage | April 11, 2009 at 02:21 PM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063442/

PLANET OF THE APES

Believe me …
it's going to be pretty quiet around UM for the next few months …
during the down period ...
It will at the very least keep the blog going.
-- manuelito “el gordito” navarro (4/10/08)

LAST WORD ; )

its all about the u. baby just win

Why would a top recruit want to play for a school that's afraid to play its larger cross-town public counterpart? As you're about to find out, they DON'T!

What's that smell over in Coral Gables? Oh yeah, now I know--it's FEAR!

You took what wasn't yours for so long and now its over. It's really over. You're now on the wrong side of history. The good guys always win in the end.

Manny, you are absolutely right on the money here. This is something that Corwin Lamb Sr. said in the Herald back in January before the BCS title game between Florida and Oklahoma that most of the MNW kids were starting to lean more towards the Gators and away from us.

If that didn't set off fire alarms at Greentree then, it certainly had better go off now. I'll say this now and you can book this in granite. If we start 1-5 or 1-6, and we have another losing season here, that alarm will get louder and louder and the de-commits will start in droves. That cannot happen and that's why this season is so so important. We have to win the ACC title this year.

Remember, we play FSU in the opener, OU on Oct 3rd, and on Sept 11, 2010, we go to Columbus to play Ohio State, one of the biggest recruiting rivals we have in South Florida.

To lose Webster to USF was devastating and we play them on November 28th at Raymond James Stadium. We cannot afford to lose to them because doing so would only legitimize them as a major recruiting threat in South Florida. That's a game where we need to send a message loud and clear that the U is still the big dog in recruiting in South Florida.

Fiu people- U can't metion that mediocre "school" in the same sentence as UM. Not even close. So why are U on this blog? because Manny called U? Please people. U havent done anything. FIU can't even beat FAU and Youre talking? Kicking a dog when he is down is clearly masculine wow. YOu guys are more pathetic than I had already knew. This just clinches it-

same as the pathetic gator fans. You guys have won 3 NCs in your entire history. THREE! AND YOURE TALKING???ENTIRE HISTORY, and you have played for far fewer than UM as well, which means your football life is full of valleys. And like the scared worms that you are, you don't say much when your school was down or on probation. Remember the Galen Hall years, losers? I do, because I remember none of you amebas said anything about the gators then. You were quite little be----cthes then, only to come to a U blog now and say the same thing over and over.

Facts are facts, losers, and the facts don't pan out:

DESPITE THE PATHETICALLY EASY SCHEDULE- U WILL NOT WIN AN NC NEXT YEAR

DESPITE 2 NCS IN THE LAST 5 YEARS- UM STILL HAS MORE PLAYERS IN THE NFL THAN F_U

UM IS ON THE RISE, F_U IS ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL

UM IS BY FAR A BETTER ACADEMIC UNIVERSITY THAN UF, FIU, USF, UCF, FAU, FGCU

UM HAS 5 NC. 5>3>2>>>>>>0(YEAH FOR YOU FIU FANS)

FOR THE LOSER WHO POSTED THE ETHNICITY OF UM AND FIU---WHAT'S YOUR POINT? FIU IS STATE SPONSORED, SO IT HAS TO meet racial quotas. UM IS PRIVATE, IT CAN DO WHATEVER IT WANTS, AND EVEN THEN---ATHLETICALLY- IT HAS STEAMROLLED THORUGH COLLEGE FOOTBALL OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS.

FACT: UM HAS A BETTER WINNING PERCENTAGE THAN UF OVER THE LAST 34 YEARS. LMAO. WHY ARE F_U FANS EVEN TALKING SMACK?

FACT: UM LEADS UF, FSU, USF, FIU, AND UCF , AND FAMU HEAD TO HEAD-ALL TIME.

OK, SO I AM A HIGH SCHOOL BALLER. I HAVE GOOD GRADES. I WANT TO GET A GOOD DEGREE, AND PLAY FOR A WINNING PROGRAM ANd POSSIBLY PLAY IN THE NFL. WHY WOULD I GO TO CENTRAL OR NORTH FLORIDA, TO A AN AREA FULL OF RACIST REDNECKS AND COWS, TO A PROGRAM THAT UNDOUBTEDLY WILL COLLAPSE ONCE TEBOWN LEAVES, WHICH HAS RELATIVELY FEW PLAYERS IN THE NFL, BECAUSE OF ITS POPCORN OFFENSE, RATHER THAN PLAY IN THE TRUE NFL-U? IN A BEAUTIFUL METROPOLITAN INTERNATIONAL CITY, INA BEAUTIFUL UNIVERSITY WITH AN OUTSTANDING MEDICAL SCHOOL, world class business and enginerering and arts and performance programs, SMALL CLASS SIZES, AND A WINNING TRADITION RIVALLED ONLY BY FEW?

I'VE SAID ENOUGH. DREM AON GTURD FANS, DREAM ON. Uf CANT CARRY UM'S JOCK STRAPS. NEVER COULD NEVER WILL-THAT'S WHY THESE MOR-RONS ARE BLOGGING HERE. THEY ARE JEALOUS AND THEY ARE SCARED. ITS A PSYCHOLOGICAL FACT.


Randy will be ok but we need at least an 8-4 season and 2011 NC and 20012 NC

Posted by: Montreal-Canes | April 11, 2009 at 11:42 PM

C'mon CANESRULE ! Lose the LAUGHABLE "montreal-cane" name. THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE UM FAN IN F"IN MONTREAL U CLOWN. And if there was they wouldn't be spouting the predictable canesrule "NC in 2011" garbage. It's interesting that you have ALREADY abandoned the "NC in 2010" nonsense. TWO NC's??? Dude, again, GET OFF THE KRAKPIPE ! You're embarrassing your entire fan base

You have said dozens of times, "NC in 2010" What happened to THAT fool?

free tip: U won't be winning ANYTHING with weiner arm NW ballah Jacory Harris. Great kid but FAR from championship caliber. Throwing up "go get em" ducks isn't going to win anything.

Randy Shannon is a black head coach from South Florida. He's lived and played here and dealt with all of the issues that most South Florida players deal with. Shannon has a huge advantage in recruiting players in this area.

However, the advantage is his to lose. If we stink this season you can expect other teams to make huge strides in recruiting South Florida.

Ok you are right Manny UM should be very afraid of FIU .... extremely afraid. I say they should quit the program right now and hsnd the keys to Mario Cristobal!!!

Did you miss last year's recruiting class Manny?? We locked down the 305, and next year should be no different.

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Manny,

Thought we Canes fans don't want to hear it, you are dead on. We knew the losing of the past few years had to catch up eventually, and it has.

We will still own most of south Fla, but we will lose more recruits than in the past. But if we start to win...

Really??? In April of 2009, we are already hitting the panic button for Signing Day that is 10 months away??? The reality is that we are so loaded at the skill position of RB and WR right now that if I were a kid I would be looking elsewhere also because there is a good chance that the person would not get on the playing field for 3 years. This team has 5 freshman and sophomore RB's and 9 freshman and sophomore WR's. Priority for 2010, OL, DL, LB and DB's and a top 5 QB.

A great article on Miami recruiting and pro-prospects...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4052172

Excellent article Manny.

Cover your eyes Manny bc if they do or dont come, WE WILL BE ON TOP AGAIN...... CANES 4 LIFE GO CANES!!!!!

A great article on Miami recruiting and pro-prospects...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4052172

Posted by: Canesjunkie | April 12, 2009 at 02:12 PM

This blog is begining to lose it's legs like Duh U's Football program...


Sad but True... That is Duh New U

why do UF fans root for the gayturds? Two possibilities:
1) Their sisters finally left the house and "got 'er done" and went and done got hitched, so they have no other way to pass their time.

2) The markets for hogs and cows are bad in this recession,so they have to find this to occupy their time

3) Their farms finally got their first television sets, although now that everything is digital, they'll have tolisten to UF games on the radier.

4) Tim Tebow has a purdy mouth. weeeeeeee! weeeeeee!

Thanks for update, but the U cannot sign all of so call talented players! First things first...win with what you have now and the rest will take care of it self. Miami recruited local players in recent years and those players did not play at the level we all thought they would...just because you are a top high school player in Miami does not make you a super star at the next level.

To the brainless hack who calls him self 17...

It was ONE play idiot. One play.

If the NBA championships are in game 7 and a horrible foul call is made that decides thatgame, that game was decided by the one call. No one ever said (as far as I know) that the game wasnt close. It was close. We had 5 ints. We allowed a player have an int get ripped out of his hands. We were inside the 30 with time left on the clock. UM also allowed the luckeyes to be in that game. 4th and 14 and we didint pressure krenzel. So it came down to the last Ot play. The refs gave it to OSU period. because HAD THEY NOT, IT WOULD BE OVER. PERIOD. END OF STORY. ANYONE AND EVERYONE NEUTRAL SPORTSCASTER ANNOUNCER (LISTEN TO THE BROADCAST-DAN FOUTS AND HE AINT NO UM FAN) SAD IT WAS A BAD CALL. IT WAS THE ROBBERY OF THE CENTURY. SAY BOO HOO OR WHATEVER YOUR WEAK A-S MAY SAY, BUT IT HAPPENED AND HISTORY WILL NOT CHANGE THAT.


NOW BUH BYE YOU WEAK LINK, YOU. GO CHASE YOURSELF.

hey, have you seen our last two recruiting classes. manny you know nothing about how the recruiting game is played, wait until feb.

Sure is a beautiful Easter Evening up here in N. Florida ...

How 'bout U ?

Hey jaime,

That was a classic. Thanks for making me LMAO.

Go canes!

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Manny, I understand that every kid is not going to commit to UM, but did they give reasons why? Is it because they didn't receive enough phone calls, maybe were not happy with being told they would have to compete for their position, or maybe coaching issues?

Anyone know anything about recent Cane OL commit Johnathan Feliciano (6-4/283)?

"...IT HAPPENED AND HISTORY WILL NOT CHANGE THAT."

jaime


Absolutely correct

We had 5 ints.

We allowed a player have an int get ripped out of his hands.

4th and 14 and we didint pressure krenzel.

U Lost and history will never change that

The U is just not what it used to be and will never be the same again...

R.I.P.

Our beloved private University of Coral Gables, we played football with so much honor and pride even until our very last breathe in the OB against a UVA team that crushed us 48 - 0.

"...as a guy who has stood on the recruiting fence for 13 years in South Florida, the enemy is moving in and the battles aren't going to be so easy to win anymore. Consider it a warning..."

Super Blogger Manny (cane realist)

Ransom Everglades is a 2B school, why are we worried about that kid committing to UF. I mean they went 3-6 in 2B. Let's worry about losing players from Northwestern or some of our other winning high schools before we worry about a kid from a losing school. That's what put us in the hole before, we were recruiting kids from losing schools and we became a losing school.

the list of stud players from losing schools is very long. U didn't start losing because of that. U started losing because the ENTIRE program eroded.

The wrecking ball

iron fist Donna

unqualified coaches

joined a competitive conference that EXPOSES weaknesses

rusty facilities

EROSION

U keep believing that it was because U were recruiting from losing schools. How stupid are U?

Why does Shalala get blamed for eroding the program? Didn't see preside over the Butch Davis era? I just don't see it....

How many coaches did she run off? You don't believe that whole bamboozle about COKER firing them DO YOU?????

How many marginal grades kids get in now?

Butch left in 01. Donna arrived in 01. U will notice a completely different atmosphere since 01. Once Butch's players moved on it was CURTAINS

THATS HOW !

FIU people who come on here and make derogatory comments about UM's football program should realize that your program's future really depends on a good UM team that is willing to play you every year.

Otherwise, noone is going to go to your nice stadium. I don't see UF and Florida St. lining up to play you.

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