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If Big East calls, should Canes answer?

It's just a wild idea, something a columnist threw out there last week. I'll ask you: Should the Miami Hurricanes consider returning to the Big East?

Rick Bozich, a columnist for the Louisville Courier-Journal, thinks so. The talk at the Big East Media Days a few weeks ago from coaches was that the conference needs to add another football playing member. Ideally, it would be Notre Dame. But the bigger target would be a program that would bring some respectability to a conference in dire need of a big name.

We know how well things have gone for the Canes since coming over to the ACC. We know how well they went in the Big East. I'm not saying Kirby Hocutt or anyone at UM would seriously entertain the idea. But if you had a rewind button or an escape clause, would you hit it and send UM back to the place where they were kings? Another writer suggests the Big East and ACC should form a super conference.

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NOT A CHANCE ! HURRICANES DO NOT RETREAT. THEY BARREL FORWARD & CREATE HAVOC. GET READY !

no way. Miami's poor performance in the ACC has nothing to do with increased competition as much as Miami's own decline leading up to the conference change. had we waited 2 or 3 more years to move, the acc would've been less likely to take us. At least we look bad in a better conference. the last 5 years would've been awful had we been this bad in the dilapidated Big East, now that would've been embarrassing. When Randy gets the program back to where it belongs, we'll be the kings of the ACC as we were of the Big Easy.

And its not that we were the Kings of the Big East because of the Big East, but because we were THE KINGS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

No way, it's the "All Canes Conference"...remember that - ZERO titles.

Negative.

why would the big east want a mediocre UM back. or even notre dame. the conference needs a winning team, not losers.

Run with our tails between our legs because we didn't win the ACC the first few years? No way!

No, the ACC is a better conference up & down for all sports, not just football (baseball, basketball, tennis, etc...). A more sensible save for the Big East (which is what this is) is merging into a super conference w/the ACC.

The only rewind Miami should do, is NOT hire Larry Coker as head coach when they should of hired Butch Davis back.

its not retreating. Why not?? it would be nice to dominate a conference again. People have more respect for the big east right now then they do the ACC. We win the ACC this year and then head back to Big East with Norte dame as well. I would enjoy that conference every year. We still schedule Vtech and FSU every year. I am always up for change and adventure!

NO! NO! NO! The ACC is the conference we should have always been a part of. It makes sense for us to be here. We have our natural rivals (FSU and VT) and geographic rivals (i.e. GT). If any team from the ACC should go to the Big East it's BC. That makes sense to me. They were one of the founding schools of the Big East; playing Syracuse, Rutgers, UCONN seems natural; etc. In an ideal world, we would trade BC for USF (that way everything south of Maryland is ACC and everything north is Big East) and then let the Big East pick-up another team somewhere else. Or have one of there 8 schools that don't play D1 football move up.

Even though ND is in the big east for basketball, I think it makes more sense for them to join the Big-10 if they were to ever join a conference. They play half that conference every year anyway.

It's all about bowl money. Miami had a special deal in the big east where they kept all their bowl money instead of every team getting an equal share. They were basically an independant that played mostly big east teams. That was fine for when they were doing well and making bcs bowls for 4 years in a row, but imagine how bad that would have been if they still had that deal durring the dicline. They would have run out of money and been in horrible shape. Being in the acc at that time helped to save their butts financially, not to mention the great things it has done for all the other sports. Now that the canes are back on their way up and when they finally win their first conference title people won't be thinking about moving to anywhere else.

I agree with the other poster. UM's problems in the ACC have nothing to do with the competition and everything to do with the teams they've fielded the last few years. Coach Shannon has this team on track to be a National Title contender within the next two years. The ACC is a much better football and basketball conference. UM will be better served by staying in ACC. Plus it will cost UM a lot less in travel expenses.

The ACC will in all likelihood be one of the best football conferences within a few years. Why would they want to leave?

Huh?????? You do remember the Big East sued us right??????? Besides that, the ACC has the largest television audience of all the major conferences, as well as the most balance top to bottom of all the major conferences.

Honestly Manny this blog should have been written in June when thre was nothing else to talk about.

I forgot to add, I'm really glad UM didn't join the SEC back when they wanted them. Those aren't Univerisiites, those are pathetic football factories. Anyone interested should take a look at the graduation rates for their black athletes. I believe the SEC averages about 42% (and would be even worse if you took out Vanderbilt). There isn't a single university in the SEC that is as good academically as 1/2 the ACC schools. No surprise since a wealthy state like Alabama is willing to let their state University pay a football coach $4 million dollars. Trailers and trash= SEC football.

Thank goodness UM went with a conference that believes winning at football isnt' the only thing in life. Getting an education is important too.

i agree with aes07

For you losah haters of the canes- just button it because you make no sense. UM domiated college football, whether they were independentts or in th big east, and they would have won NCs wherever they were. In 1987, as an independent the U played 4 SEC teams, plus FSU, Maryland, Miami of Oh, Cincinatti, Notre Dame and went on to beat Okl for the title (MAC, SEC, Big East, Big 12, ACC)and went undefeated (hear that turd fans?) so for the U and U fans it should not matter. It's anytime, anywhere. The only thing that money nowadays is $

in 2001, the only 2 teams that almost beat UM were Boston College and Va Tech. Nobody else came close.

And dont forget that the Big East has developed a name for themselves- West Va beating a highly touted Georgia team, etc etc.

I believe that the canes problems were not because of the move to the ACC, but the move to the ACC made themmore obvious. They would have stunk anywhere. Kyle wright would have been sacked in the big 12, the MAC or anywhere. that's how awful he was. So it was mere coincidence. As it is, UM still plays its pereniial rivals BC, VT, and FSU regardless, sprinkled in with a NC or NCst. losing to the carolina teams has been a fluke. Ask Georgia if losing to GT was a fluke. Ask them if that triple option was a fluke. period.

Dumb question. Everyone here agrees, but I'll say it again...Miami is losing because Miami stinks right now, not because the ACC is so much better. Remember, we got our ears boxed at Louisville after we went to the ACC. We'd be losing in the Big Least too, so why go back?

The ACC is better than the Big East in every way. They're great in all athletics, the same teams compete in all the sports in the conference (what conference would let Temple play football but not insist on them playing basketball for them?), there's more money in it, the schools are near us, the ACC doesn't bend over to please Notre Dame (again...why would a conference let them in for all sports BUT football, the only one they're marketable for?).

Nope, we're staying put, and when Randy gets us "where we need to be at" we'll dominate the ACC just like we did the Big East. Of course, once that happens, we'd dominate the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 or Pac 10 also.

People have more respect for the big east right now then they do the ACC.

Posted by: Canefantasy | August 16, 2009 at 10:26 AM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/08/usa-today-preseason-top-25-coaches-poll-is-released-wheres-the-big-east.html

The 2009 USA Today Preseason Top 25 Coaches poll is out and yes, it sucks to be the Big East. For the first time in history, a BCS conference that gets an automatic berth is shut out of the preseason Top 25.
-- orlando sentinel

http://www.wvmetronews.com/sports.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=31775&type=Shawn

The future of the Big East bowl situation is in peril.
Nothing has been finalized yet but it doesn’t look good.
We should know by next week whether or not the Big East will retain its affiliation with the Gator Bowl and it appears that the two may be going their separate ways. …
If everything goes down as expected this would be devastating for the Big East. The conference would no longer have a New Year's Day Bowl
-- wvmetronews

We play Liberty University this year (due to the unbalanced Big East Schdule). The Big East doesn't have one team in the top 25 (we have the least # of votes in the polls). We lose the Gator Bowl next year (only 4 good traveling schools). TV money sucks and we have to play on Fridays & Sundays. And the only prerequisite needed to become the Big East Commissioner is to have been an Athletic Director at Providence.

A slow and painful death for the Big East Football Conference.
-- wbgvwbgv

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090810/COLUMNISTS01/908100367/1002/sports/Big+East+needs+to+find+one+more+football+team

Why would Miami leave the Atlantic Coast Conference for the Big East?
-- the courier-journal’s rick bozich

RHETORICAL QUESTION

the big east is nowhere near as good as the ACC. Who cares if we dominate the conference. The big east isn't a conference on the level of any of the other major conferences. I want to see us dominate the ACC, and it will come soon enough. We got some scores left to settle in this conference (VT, GT, UNC). The ACC is my favorite conference, personally.

gator fan ave. 8th grade have lost more than five teeth more,and live in trailors . so stay off this site gays. don't forget you only have 3 championchips and no players ray lewis,or wannen sapps. miami is a school of hall of famers,not rednecks . go to the dragstrip watch nascar do something just stay away from this site

Didn't we have a practice game Sat.??? If so, where's the tread?

This team would have been steamrolled by West Virginia, Louisville, Pitt and Cincy in recent years. And losing to Rutgers would have been the pits! It would have happened, however, because Larry Coker stunk as a coach. The conference hasn't made a difference. The coaching has. I think Miami had a better fit in the Big East, but it wouldn't have made much difference in their record either way.

No way!! The Hurricanes aren't cowards like the Florida Gators. If we ever go back we have to make a name for ourselves here first. Leaving would look cowardish. The Canes that dominated the Big East could have dominated the ACC as well. We have to get to that level again win ACC championships and then if there are better financial opportunities there then we can go back.

I don't see the positives in rejoining the Big East. UM is now getting competitive.

Coker and his lackluster recruiting was the big mistake.

However, just remember that it was the players who chose Coker.

yeah they players DID choose coker. and promptly won a national title.

If any team from the ACC should go to the Big East it's BC. That makes sense to me.

Posted by: aes07 | August 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM

http://cannabisnews.com/news/16/thread16155.shtml

bc closer to maryland than UM to florida state …
who’s the outlier?

FAR-OUT MAN

In an ideal world, we would trade BC for USF (that way everything south of Maryland is ACC and everything north is Big East)

Posted by: aes07 | August 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America

ACC proudly stands for Atlantic Coast Conference …
not aes07’s confederate cabal …
from Miami to boston …

EASTERN SEABOARD

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/acc/0-6-432/Maryland--BC-dismiss-report-of-Big-East-interest.html

Nobody from the Big East contacted me. As long as there is an Atlantic Coast Conference, BC will be in it.
-- bc athletic director gene defilippo

MOOT POINT

ACC has the largest television audience of all the major conferences

posted by: 'soda

WRONGJAKAZZ

Largest Market, NOT largest audience.

Big difference dumbazz

The Big East offers less competition than the ACC, therefore, UM football would've ended the past couple seasons with better records. However, the move from the Big East to the ACC was huge for the mens basketball program. Mens B-Ball has received far more recognition and media coverage while in the ACC.

Are you kidding me......

Are you kidding me......

Posted by: HurricaneKev | August 16, 2009 at 02:28 PM

I'm with you Kev. Why Manny???

P.S. The only way the Big East can save themselves from mediocrity is to create a 12 team conference like most of the others have done. I would make ND join in all sports or leave, and I would also get UCF to join.

There is already a built in rivalry between USF/UCF, and both schools would soon dominate that conference, even if ND were to join. Such is the state of Florida football.

green; "ACC proudly stands for Atlantic Coast Conference …
not aes07’s confederate cabal …
from Miami to boston …

EASTERN SEABOARD"

Wow man! What a horrible interpretation of my thoughts. That's not what I was implying whatsoever. Thanks for not calling me an out right white supremacist...at least I don't think you did.

It was a big mistake for UM to leave the Big East in the first place, but they should not return. Big East wants to add a team that can strengthen the league-- not pull it down. I don't mean to offend. Just speaking the truth.

ACC has the largest television audience of all the major conferences

posted by: 'soda

WRONGJAKAZZ

Largest Market, NOT largest audience.

Posted by: gaturd agent provocateur | August 16, 2009 at 02:04 PM

something to be said for passion, tradition & quality of play …

CATCH ON

P.S. The only way the Big East can save themselves from mediocrity is to create a 12 team conference like most of the others have done. I would make ND join in all sports or leave, and I would also get UCF to join.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | August 16, 2009 at 02:37 PM

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052009/sports/moresports/big_east_may_spark_area_bowl_183066.htm

With threats on the horizon …
Two sources said the eight-team Big East would consider adding a ninth member by exploring whether there was interest on behalf of Maryland to jump from the ACC, and for Boston College to rejoin the league.
Both seem a little far-fetched on the surface …
The days of considering a Memphis or a Central Florida or an association with Army and Navy are over.
-- nypost

SLIM PICKINGS

Wow man! What a horrible interpretation of my thoughts. That's not what I was implying whatsoever. Thanks for not calling me an out right white supremacist...at least I don't think you did.

Posted by: aes07 | August 16, 2009 at 02:57 PM

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were.
-- carl sagan

Big things are waiting for the canes in the ACC canes keep moving forward to the ACC title & national championship

Canes should stay in the ACC. Hoops will get better and I always love seeing the games against DUKE and UNC.

A little something for all the FIU grads and current students that cheer for the Orange & Green, it's ok to support your school and cheer for the CANES !! Big things are POPPIN at FIU and you're invited on 8/20 to come check them out. Here is an invite from Coach Cristobal and some footage of the boyz working hard in the weight room !! Big game against Nick Satan on 9/12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyGoPFTHU4M

fiupantherage thats a good video.. i like it

Absolutely not.

The only issue with the ACC was the timing for Miami. The Canes were on the decline when they made the move in 2004. Had UM stayed in the Big East, they'd have struggled there 2004-2007, as well.

Conversely, had Miami joined the ACC in 2000 they'd have dominated like Florida State did for so long.

Miami will turn it around. It takes time to rebuild the mess that Loser Larry made. Four to five years, minimum. Things will start to get right this year and by 2010 the Canes should be penciled in as ACC Champs... ending all this "should they have stayed in the Big Least" nonsense.

No Way it would be a step backwards

I've been following the canes for close to 50 years and not once did read anything about the SEC wanting Miami. Back to the subject no miami is a good fit for the ACC and as soon as we get a BCS caliber coaching staff the canes will be back among the top.

I don't where you got your information from as far as the ACC having the bibbest tv market, but i will say that the northeast part of the country has poeple living there than the south. So i can't go along you as far as you saying that the ACC has bigger market that the Big East.

There will never be a college play-off series and there will never be an end to the dispute as to who deserves to be the national champion. The dispute (controversy) as to who should be in the final championship game will also continue. The university presidents do not want to extend the football season long enough to form a traditional play-off series. The pollsters and bowls like to keep the value of their "opinion" since it serves their purposes.
Look toward the future. The idea of forming superconferences is where the future of college football is heading to end this dispute. Ideally, there would be 4 superconferences in college. There would be approximately 20-25 schools in each super-conference. The 4 super-conferences would have a division championship game. The winner of each super-conference ( 4 teams) would meet in a 2 game elimination series to decide who should be the national champion each year. Most people believe this is the only way the controversy will end.

For the record, ACC basketball is NOT better than Big East hoops. The ACC is usually extremely top heavy in basketball while the Big East usually has a minimum 5-7 very good teams.

I don't think the Big East thinks much about the Canes these days. The anger surrounding the move to the ACC has dissipated. There is still, however, bad feeling for BC. It is important to remember the mutually beneficial relationship Miami and the Big East enjoyed. Miami basketball was returning after the university suspended it to save money. Canes football was in its prime. The Big East lent its basketball reputation and Miami its football one. Miami basketball was covered by the New York Times and Washington Post. The football league then as it does now took a back seat to basketball. Those of us diehard BE fans didn't realize the publicity the Canes' football program received from all over the country shielded the truth about basketball bias in the conference. Miami rightly pointed this out in their complaint letter of 1999. The issue is far from settled as the possibility of a football/basketball split still exists. So Good Luck Canes but remember you have more in common with the urban schools of the Big East than you do the southern culture of the ACC. Just look at your football stadium.

I've been following the canes for close to 50 years and not once did read anything about the SEC wanting Miami.

Posted by: rosekat | August 16, 2009 at 08:10 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/03/sports/sports-people-sec-expansion.html

in 1990, former yes-e-c commissioner roy kramer visited UM to gauge interest …

COURTESY CALL

It was a big mistake for UM to leave the Big East in the first place

Posted by: Seacat | August 16, 2009 at 03:27 PM

If any team from the ACC should go to the Big East it's BC.
That makes sense to me. … In an ideal world, we would trade BC for USF

Posted by: aes07 | August 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM

that just showed how great Miami was at that time. There was no school in college football more powerful at that time. But, had the Big East been able to keep Boston College, Virginia Tech and added Louisville and either Cincinnati or South Florida - there is no way in hell the BCS bid would've been lost. That would be even a better conference than before.
-- ThePunish-EER

expansion crippled the big east …

LYNCHPIN

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