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If Big East calls, should Canes answer?

It's just a wild idea, something a columnist threw out there last week. I'll ask you: Should the Miami Hurricanes consider returning to the Big East?

Rick Bozich, a columnist for the Louisville Courier-Journal, thinks so. The talk at the Big East Media Days a few weeks ago from coaches was that the conference needs to add another football playing member. Ideally, it would be Notre Dame. But the bigger target would be a program that would bring some respectability to a conference in dire need of a big name.

We know how well things have gone for the Canes since coming over to the ACC. We know how well they went in the Big East. I'm not saying Kirby Hocutt or anyone at UM would seriously entertain the idea. But if you had a rewind button or an escape clause, would you hit it and send UM back to the place where they were kings? Another writer suggests the Big East and ACC should form a super conference.

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I don't where you got your information from as far as the ACC having the bibbest tv market, but i will say that the northeast part of the country has poeple living there than the south. So i can't go along you as far as you saying that the ACC has bigger market that the Big East.

Posted by: BigT | August 16, 2009 at 08:12 PM

hartford/connecticut
upstate new york
new jersey
pittsburg
west virginia
cincinnati
louisville
tampa

boston/new england
washington, dc
baltimore/maryland
northern virginia/virginia
charlotte/north carolina
atlanta
florida
Miami/South Florida

TRUMPED

For the record, ACC basketball is NOT better than Big East hoops.

Posted by: Todd L | August 16, 2009 at 08:38 PM

Our basketball revenue streams are the best in the country.
-- ACC Commissioner John Swofford

Leave the best all-around sports and academic conference in the country for an inferior conference. Great idea...Of course Louisville would want this but Miami would never be that stupid.

http://www.wcdac.org/news/2005_alumni_awards/bios/bfrank.html

One of the things we did, candidly, is take (ESPN’s) pulse. Is ESPN going to treat us fairly? And the answer was, ‘You have our word that we will.’ We accept that. And we accept that they will make a fair and equitable deal. ...
What equals fair is the precedents they have set already, with, for instance, the SEC deal. You look at that as a benchmark.
-- ACC negotiator Barry Frank

(UM) should not return. Big East wants to add a team that can strengthen the league-- not pull it down. I don't mean to offend. Just speaking the truth.

Posted by: Seacat | August 16, 2009 at 03:27 PM

next spring, ACCepts bids on a new TV deal …
the most conservative estimates peg bundled basketball & football rights at $120M a year or $1.8B over 15 years a la the yes-e-c …
as a point of comparison, disney pays the bigbad10 $1B over 10 years …
throw in A-1 baseball, women’s basketball & olympic sports …
not to mention Raycom partnering with Comcast or FitTV selling equity stake or ESPN rebranding Classic to distribute the brand new ACC network nationally …
don’t cry for me my friend …
no other conference can match our depth, reach & market size …
from Miami to boston …
going my way …

GOING RATE

Besides all the valid reasons posted by others earlier (UM being on the decline no matter where they were, ACC being a better academic conference, UM getting a better financial deal from the ACC, etc.). The key component IMHO is that UM does not back down from a challenge!! Look at how we bash the Turds for backing out from playing us. How could we possibly leave the ACC now and go back to the Big Least!? We would be the laughing stock of all the BCS conference teams. We should/will stick it out and win or play in many ACC championship games, along with a couple more NC games in the next 10 years. The Canes are on the rise. Get your warning flags ready!!

No way....we will win more then one NC in this conference....then be able to say we won a NC as an independant, Big East and ACC....who else can lay claim to that?

Manny. You need to find smarter friends. RETREAT is a losers attitude. If not for Larry and his inherited gang of coaches, we would still be winning championships, regrdless of conference.

Although it is not likely to happen, Miami should have seen their fate in the ACC. They are the red headed step child in that conference. The ACC is a hillbilly conference where Miami will always be the outsider. They paid way too much in $$$$s and pride to join the ACC and it has bitten them on the butt in many instances. Miami is geographically challenged by the travel distance and seems to be an unnatural fit. It is what it is and Miami is neither a good fit in the Big East nor the ACC. They are the odd team out.

Hey, Manny, any word on this weekend's scrimmage? I haven't seen anything in print yet, so I wonder how things went...

This QUESTION is a little rediculous. First of all, the horse has left the barn. Second, the ACC is where MIAMI belongs. Soon we will dominate it like we dominated the Big East and college football in general....

charlotte/north carolina

Posted by: green | August 16, 2009 at 10:32 PM

charlotte/carolinas

AMENDMENT

The ACC is a hillbilly conference where Miami will always be the outsider.

Posted by: stumped | August 17, 2009 at 07:49 AM

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search

Miami, boston college, maryland …
duke, carolina, georgia tech, virginia …

BIRDS OF A FEATHER

(UM) paid way too much in $$$$s and pride to join the ACC and it has bitten them on the butt in many instances.

Posted by: stumped | August 17, 2009 at 07:49 AM

ENUMERATE

Miami is geographically challenged by the travel distance and seems to be an unnatural fit. It is what it is and Miami is neither a good fit in the Big East nor the ACC. They are the odd team out.

Posted by: stumped | August 17, 2009 at 07:49 AM

flip side of the coin …
geographic isolation is our friend …
because U get the lion’s share of talent & attention in a major-league metropolis …

SPOILED BRAT

In an ideal world, we would trade BC for USF

Posted by: aes07 | August 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM

should usf progress …
I could see the ACC considering them in the next go-around to 14 …
but not in bc’s stead …

PRIME CANDIDATE

i nominate thee for worst canes blog post of the year

I think that the Big East would not want them back. If they wanted a team from Miami, they would bring on F.I.U. Laugh all you want, but the reality is that F.I.U is starting to have a respectable football program, their baseball team is outrecruting U.M, and their basketball team is doing the same. The main reason they would want F.I.U is because of their B-Ball team.

It is a shame that U.M. is to scared to play F.I.U. I was a U.M fan, but lost total respect for them when they decided not to play F.I.U at all.

What happened on Saturday? Any info on the scrimmage?

It is a shame that U.M. is to scared to play F.I.U. I was a U.M fan, but lost total respect for them when they decided not to play F.I.U at all.

Posted by: PeterParkerSwag | August 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Get a band and some cheerleader's, then we'll talk!

The old saying is when the going gets tough the tough get going. I am sure that means stay put and show what you are made of and not go back to the Big East.

CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Miami defensive end Adewale Ojomo could miss the Hurricanes' Sept. 7 season-opener at Florida State with an undisclosed injury.

Ojomo got hurt "horsing around in the locker room with a couple players" Sunday, according to Hurricanes coach Randy Shannon. There's no definitive timetable on his return, and it's possible Ojomo still could be ready for the opener.

Ojomo played in 11 games last season as a redshirt freshman, making three starts.

A pair of freshmen, linebacker Shayon Green and offensive lineman Cory White, both are "out for a while," Shannon said, again not offering specifics.

The team typically does not release injury information other than saying when a player has undergone surgery.

Is there a reason why R. Shannon won't divulge injuries? He's hurt........ Well, what's wrong with him??????

I don't understand the point of not telling the public of his injury.

horsing around? wh-t-f??????

I say if he loses any playingtime, he gets demoted because by now he should have more f-in common sense!

Pleeeeasssee Randy tell us what happened???

Just reading over the posts and I have a possible minor correction regarding the size of the ACC viewing audience a.k.a ACC fan market in college football. I believe the SEC has the largest fan market in college football not the ACC.

The SEC has exclusive contracts with both CBS and now ESPN. These two TV contracts combined equate to about $205 million per year in media rights for the SEC. Just making sure we have the facts.

Our mighty Hurricanes have fallen. The Gators were waiting to feed on that fact. It seems to be paying off for them pretty nicely.

"..... but because we were THE KINGS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL."

The operative word being WERE


LMGDAO.... u suk...NOW

It's not even close Land Shark. The SEC is way ahead of all the others in terms of market SHARE.

Let that moron Green post his incredibly ignorant nonsense. I swear that guy is the dumbest commenter on this blog yet he thinks he's brilliant.

He's a delusional clown.

Hey Green why don't you post a link to miami's fan attendence from 2002. U lucky if you see 30k in the here and now

I think that the Big East would not want them back. If they wanted a team from Miami, they would bring on F.I.U.
Laugh all you want

Posted by: PeterParkerSwag | August 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052009/sports/moresports/big_east_may_spark_area_bowl_183066.htm

Two sources said the eight-team Big East would consider adding a ninth member by exploring whether there was interest on behalf of Maryland to jump from the ACC, and for Boston College to rejoin the league.
Both seem a little far-fetched on the surface …
The days of considering a Memphis or a Central Florida or an association with Army and Navy are over.
-- nypost

IDLE DREAMER

I think that the Big East would not want them back. If they wanted a team from Miami, they would bring on F.I.U.
Laugh all you want

Posted by: PeterParkerSwag | August 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/Xeroc/UM/emptyOrangeBowl2.jpg

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search/c_final_tier+4

you mean that tier-4 commuter school located in a flash flood zone …
whose students, faculty & alumni unabashedly root for U …
whose everlasting credo reads …
go to class …
drive away …
never look back …

LAST LAUGH

their baseball team is outrecruting U.M
Laugh all you want

Posted by: PeterParkerSwag | August 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM

http://www.fiusports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=11700&ATCLID=898134

FIU last qualified for a NCAA Regional in 2002.
-- fiusports.com

http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/052909aab.html

Miami made an NCAA-record 37th consecutive postseason appearance when it faced Jacksonville Friday. Nebraska's football team had made it to 35 straight bowl games before the streak was snapped in 2007.
-- hurricanesports.com

SEEING IS BELIEVING

LIVE INTHE PAST AND THE BLABBING LIFE LOSERS THAT KEEP POSTINGSTUFF HERE ABOUT THE CANES:

1) DO U KNOW HOWLITTLE IT MATTERS TO CANE FANS THAT ATTENDANCE IS LOW? NEWSFALSH GENIUS, ATTENDANCE WAS LOW 1983-2005, THE 27 YEARS (MINUS A FEW HERE AND THERE THAT UM DOMIONATED COLLEGE FOOTBALL)- MAN YOU ARE A SAGE!

2) WHO CARES ABOUT MARKET SHARE. REALLY. WHO CARES. AND WHO CARES ABOUT THE ESPN CONTRACT. WHAT ESPN REALLY CARES IS THAT UM HAS HAD THE 3-COUNTTHEM YOUIGNORAMUS, 3 HIGHEST RATED COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAMES OF ALL TIME. CAN THE MIGHTY GATORS SAY THAT? NO. NOT WITH WUERFFEL, NOT WITH LEAK, NOT WITH TEBONE.

3) WHAT IS THE FASCINATION OF TURD FANS WITH THE SEC? WHO CHEERS FOR A CONFERENCE? FANS ANFD ALUMNI CHEER FOR THEIR SCHOOL OR THEIR FAVE PROGRAM. PERIOD. NOT A CONFERENCE. CHEERING FOR A CONFERENCE IS NOTHING BUT A RATIONALIZATION TO VALIDATE YOUR OWN PATHETIC EXISTENCE! BUT IN THOSE TERMS, ACC 6, SEC 4 LAST YEAR. OK?

4) UR A P-Y FOR BLOGGING SUCH NEGATIVE THINGS WITHOUT HAVING THE MANHOOD TO BE CONFRONTED IN PERSON. LIKE THE CANES, I SAY, ANY TIME, ANYWHERE.

5) This talk by gaturd fans like you means you are scared. Otherwise, you would not be wasting your time trying to demean your opponent verbally. You are scared. I would be too. 2013 is justaround the corner.

Blah, 'nuf time wasted on you. You are a deteriorated sample of DNA.

their baseball team is outrecruting U.M
Laugh all you want

Posted by: PeterParkerSwag | August 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM

http://www.collegiatebaseball.com/recruiting/recruiting_results.htm

says whom …
says pete the pied piper pelegrin who specializes in half-truths …
the propagandist repeatedly cites an obscure website pre-MLB draft to paint his ill-favored alma mater’s recruiting in the most favorable light …
equating & repeating opinion with fact …

THE BIG LIE(R)

The main reason they would want F.I.U is because of their B-Ball team.
Laugh all you want

Posted by: PeterParkerSwag | August 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM

http://www.sportsrumormill.com/forum/ncaa-college-football/16914-summer-tidbits-college-football-3.html

Florida International will do the unthinkable in 2009--they will play without cheerleaders--however not to worry since FIU ranked 118th out of 119th in attendance---not many people will notice
-- egghead

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/Xeroc/UM/emptyOrangeBowl2.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/30/sports/30colleges.html?_r=1&ref=ncaabasketball

drawing power drives expansion …
and you draw flies …
exaggerate crowd size to appear larger & meet D-1 requirements …
but for strong-arming an unsuspecting student body thru obscene activity fees …
your unwanted athletic program would die a lonely death …

DIM BULB

It is a shame that U.M. is to scared to play F.I.U. I was a U.M fan, but lost total respect for them when they decided not to play F.I.U at all.
Laugh all you want

Posted by: PeterParkerSwag | August 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM

pick on someone your own size …

LITTLE GUY SYNDROME

New Jersey doesn't have a TV market, it's split between NYC (North) and Philly(South).

UM isn't going to pass up a game with UF, Oklahoma, or Ohio State to play FIU. You can forget that right now. They do FIU a favor by playing them, same goes for USF and UCF. UM gets nothing by playing these schools.

At least FAMU brings the band when we play them. That FAMU band is well worth the price of admission.

Just reading over the posts and I have a possible minor correction regarding the size of the ACC viewing audience a.k.a ACC fan market in college football. I believe the SEC has the largest fan market in college football not the ACC.

Posted by: Land_Shark | August 17, 2009 at 04:30 PM

market = TV households
yes-e-c footprint occupies only 10%
yet parlays passion, tradition & quality of play into pay bump …

RAISED EYEBROWS

New Jersey doesn't have a TV market, it's split between NYC (North) and Philly(South).

Posted by: Canesjunkie | August 17, 2009 at 06:51 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_stations_in_North_America_by_media_market#United_States_of_America

rutgers = new jersey’s state school
try as they might, no school can plausibly lay claim to the big apple …

FORBIDDEN FRUIT

miami got a new commit..


Stone Mountain (GA) Stephenson High School LB Tyrone Cornileus has made his college decision.

He chose the Miami Hurricanes over Georgia Tech, committing to coaches.

He committed at 8:30 tonight in a conference call with coaches.

He called it "a done deal."

"My goals are to start as a freshman, get a lot of exposure and experience my freshman year," Cornileus said. "I want to major in either mechanical engineering or forensic sciences. And just have a stellar year my first year there."

He says Cane coaches played a big role in his decision.

"I connected very well with the coaches, coach (Wesley) McGriff, (Micheal) Barrow, coach (John) Lovett and also coach (Randy) Shannon," Cornileus said. "I've got a very good bond with them.

"Miami, I felt very comfortable down there. The city, Coral Gables, Miami period is beautiful."

Cornileus does say "it was tough" hammering out a choice.

"My top four schools were Miami, Georgia Tech, South Carolina and the University of Tennessee," he said. "They're all great schools. You get a great education and also play great D-I football at each school. It was a very hard decision to make."

Cornileus visited Miami twice unofficially and says that helped seal the deal for him.

Cornileus grew up in South Florida before moving out of state.

"I've felt so comfortable down there," he said. "The coaching staff is incredible, I love them.

"They play great football. I feel they're coming back on the rise this next year. I love their tradition, and the chances of getting to the NFL are very high if you go to Miami."

Cornileus says UM is recruiting him as a linebacker.

"I don't know if they'll convert me to safety, but either way it goes I'll be ready to make a transition if I have to," he said.

The 6-foot-0, 185-pounder finished his junior season with 118 tackles, three interceptions (one returned for a touchdown), two forced fumbles (one returned for a score), four sacks, 11 tackles for losses, a blocked punt and three safeties.

This year he will also play running back on offense.

Cornileus' father, Tyrone Sr., says he's happy with his son's choice.

"Florida's like a second home for us," Tyrone Sr. said. "We're happy with his decision. It's been a process - we went through a process, evaluated schools.

"He was scheduled to commit about a month ago and we held off to evaluate the schools a little bit closer. At the end of the day we came back to where he was and that's the University of Miami. It's a done deal."

The SEC has exclusive contracts with both CBS and now ESPN. These two TV contracts combined equate to about $205 million per year in media rights for the SEC. Just making sure we have the facts.

Posted by: Land_Shark | August 17, 2009 at 04:30 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_syndication

ESPN’s end of the bargain includes syndication …
and precludes the launch of a competing network …
in contrast, ACC syndication sold separately …

KICKER

http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/10013/acc-insider-acc-kickoff-notes-day-1/

Among the most interesting developments to come out of Swofford’s press conference was the move of the ACC Championship game from a less-desirable afternoon time slot to prime time on ESPN, the league’s willingness to look into “new models” - including the possibility of its own independent football network - in its upcoming television contract negotiations
-- starnews

TRUMP CARD

http://www.hokiesports.com/notebook/2007/11/what_is_a_reverse_mirror_game.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_GamePlan

http://www.comcast.net/tv/on-demand/

I foresee a multi-network mega deal befitting a 12-team super conference
ACC re-ups with Disney & Raycom who takes on Comcast …
while wisely launching its own network …
ABC, ABC/ESPN2 reverse mirror, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, GamePlan,
Raycom/Comcast syndication, On Demand, brand new ACC channel …
streaming TV online …
my god …
one can watch & rewatch UM …

SOMEWHERE. SOMEHOW. SOMETIME.

someone win at Land Skark Stadium last night ?


Forget big east. Here is the deal.
Gators, F.S.U., Cent. Fla., U.S.F., Canes, form "Confederacy U.S.A.". Invite any other viable team in the south to join(Ga.Tech., Clemson).
Then adopt the confed. flag as league banner, R.E. Lees horse as spirit symbol, pick up truck with gun rack as official vehicle, Jack Black as official beverage, motto "remember Chancellorsville", Red Man as official tobacco product, Lil Abner as mascot, logo to be determined.
Will need to add a non academic team named the Moonshiners, composed of former players who never graduated and had at least two children while in attendance.
Then go kick some Yankee Ass.

lol

Graig Cooper is injured?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4406739

In an even bigger story...Manny gets scooped by ESPN!!!!!

This is for GREEN.

http://macsystems.com/Nov10-2007.jpg

Keep living in the past. You guys are far from winning any type of National Title. Move to the Big East, it will help you.

the acc is not a better basketball conference than the big east, if anything their equal, but the acc is a better basketball conference for miami because their recruiting base is in acc country, so it makes sense that their potential recruits from below the mason dixon line would be more hype to play duke and unc than uconn and syracuse but it doesn't matter cuz the U isnt gonna leave, i always thought that penn state would've been a good choice for the big east especially geography wise, but in one more year we should be competing again

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