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Shannon talks injuries, FSU, QBs

We all figured Adewale Ojomo was going to be out for awhile, but we finally got confirmation from coach Randy Shannon that senior Eric Moncur will not lineup against the Seminoles Monday night.

Shannon told reporters during his ACC Teleconference an hour ago that Moncur and Ojomo were the only two defensive ends who will not be going to Tallahassee. "We got maybe two guys that will be out for the game -- Ojomo and Eric Moncur," Shannon said when asked about the state of his defensive ends. "... We'll miss them and their experience. We have confidence in Olivier Vernon, Marcus Robinson, Andrew Smith and Steven Wesley. We have a lot of guys who have played football here."

Shannon spoke for about 10 minutes during his ACC Teleconference and for about another 20 with WQAM's Joe Rose Tuesday morning. Here are a few notes from those conversations.

Randy Shannon > Shannon said the key to beating Florida State will be winning the turnover battle and tackling. "We got to be able to stop the run. If you can stop the run defensively you can let your pass rush get after the quarterback and do some other things," he said. "Last year we weren't able to do that. We're a better football team just because of experience wise. All of those young guys got a lot of experience with playing reps which is vital for a game against Florida State."

> Last year, the Seminoles and quarterback Christian Ponder torched the Canes on the ground. Shannon said UM wants to keep him contained. "We want to keep him inside the pocket and make decisions. We're expecting our defensive line to do a great job. We expect our pressure to get after him."

> Shannon said the biggest improvement he's seen in Jacory Harris is in third down situations. "He doesn't let many things bother him," Shannon said when asked what's impressed him about Harris now that he's the full-time starter. "He's the guy this year and he takes it just like business. He practices with the mentality he's going to get better. When he makes a mistake, he'll take the blame. If he holds it too long, he'll go and tell the offensive line he held it too long. If he throws it to high for a receiver or just out of reach, he'll tell them 'My bad.' He's not a me guy. He's a team guy."

> Shannon said backup quarterback AJ Highsmith has done well, but hinted if he gets into the game he probably will not be asked to do a lot. "We got a small package for him," Shannon said.

> Shannon told WQAM he and his coaching staff will sit down after Thursday's practice and determine the depth chart and who will be traveling with the team. When asked if any true freshmen would play, Shannon said "none will start."

> As for the rotation at receiver, Shannon said "we're going to play four or five guys at maximum. You can't play eight anymore. The guys know whoever makes plays for us will be playing for us."

> Shannon said he feels confident with the depth on his offensive line. "We got eight guys we feel comfortable with," he said. "We have guys we can rotate and give us a chance to win games."

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let's get it started!

he said no true freshman will start,i think oliver vernon should be our starter

Can't wait to see how these kids perform on Monday... It will be great to actually see them on the field after all these months of anticipation.

Go Canes!

Miami 31 fsu 17

he said no true freshman will start,i think oliver vernon should be our starter

Posted by: binky | September 02, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Have you seen him practice?
Why do you think he should start?

I can't wait to get it on Monday night..GO CANES!!!!!!

If Jacory can stay healthy and the Defensive line can contain the run, there is no way we can't beat FSU and are likely going to be ACC Champions this season.

he said no true freshman will start,i think oliver vernon should be our starter

Posted by: binky | September 02, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Have you seen him practice?
Why do you think he should start?


Posted by: MTX-Cane | September 02, 2009 at 01:08 PM

Ive seen 1 practice but he looked pretty ridiculous in the 1 i saw him in. Serious explosion off the ball.

Manny-

what are the chances ray ray armstrong redshirts this year (barring an injury to vt or rp of course)?

I have a feeling F$U will put in a package to knock out Jacory in the 1st few series. After that, we get smoked.

I have a feeling F$U will put in a package to knock out Jacory in the 1st few series. After that, we get smoked.

Posted by: Babes | September 02, 2009 at 02:04 PM

I have a feeling you're not actually a Canes fan...just a guess though

I still think that Jacory Harris has a lot to prove. everyone just assumes he's going to be great. I have to see it first, because while at times last year he looked good, other times her was lost. Could be just Freshman issues or not.

Miami has improved more on both sides of the ball than FSU since last year's game:

Defense is stronger, more experienced, and will get a BIG boost from Colin McCarthy and Randy Phillips (and Vaughn Telemaque). D-Line and LBs are a big step up from last year. FSU has a strong o-line so this should be a good matchup. However, no more Antone Smith is a big plus for us. I think Miami stuffs the run in this one and forces FSU to throw some turnovers (running qb in ponder, inexperienced receivers).

Offense should look better than last season- improved OC/playcalling and more experienced qb and receivers. Healthy running backs are a big plus. May take a while for them to get comfortable, but this will be fun to watch. Expect a lot of 2nd half adjustments and scoring.

Special Teams should be interesting -- TB is the x-factor obviously. I don't see him getting loose like he did last year because he's definitely on their radar now, but he should be able to pop a few nice returns. Lamar Miller could be this year's TB if he sees some minutes. Let's hope Bosher doesn't have to make 10 tackles again...that could end badly.

Canes 27
Noles 21

I think this is a pretty conservative prediction. This could get ugly if FSU doesn't get a good rush on Jacory and step up on D. Either way, I'll gladly take the 5.5 point underdog in this one. FSU is overrated and Miami has an ace in it's sleeve in Whipple. Get ready for fireworks. See you at the Doak.

This year's Canes will be better than last year's. It's a lock. Here's why:

#1 While I'm sure they're an outstanding group of young men, last year's graduating seniors were unremarkable as football players. Full disclosure - I'm not a talent evaluator and as a Californian didn't get to watch enough U games to be able to draw my own direct conclusions. I'm basing my assessment solely on the utter indifference shown to the group by the NFL. What did we get, one 7th rounder and a couple of FA invitations? Yeesh!

(Why last year's seniors were a collective flop is another story. The Curse of Coker? Suffice it to say they were in over their heads at the U, and would have fit better at schools with "Southwestern State", "A & I", or "Teacher's College" in their names.)

The loss of the class of 2009 will barely ripple on the team's depth chart.

#2 The returning players are a year older, smarter, stronger, more experienced, and better. This is especially true of last year's freshman class. I can't wait to see this year's edition of Harris, Byrd, Spence, et al. Certainly the improvement of the team's veterans -- coupled with the immediate contributions expected by some of the incoming freshmen -- will far outweigh the talent we lost through graduation.

#3 Toby the Dancing Chimp can do a better job running an offense than Pat Nix. What a bonehead hire. With Nix out, and Whip in, the offense should be much more productive and dynamic (especially with the QB situation settled and our "deep depth" -- to quote the great Earl Weaver-- at RB and WR).

Two things can trip us up this year:

#1 Injuries to key players at positions of limited depth could be devastating. I'm not too concerned if we lose an RB or WR, but what if Harris, Spence, or Fox go down? Huge trouble.

#2 We're not the only team that improved since last season. Every program out there is stockpiling recruits and improving internally. If we're improving at a slower rate than our competitors, then we're in effect getting worse. To use a driving metaphor: If we've accelerated from 0 to 40 from last year to this, and other teams from 0 to 60, then we've lost ground. And our killer schedule won't help either.

Major butterflies thinking about Monday.... Go Canes!

This is the game when the U destroys FSU and other programs starte to get jittery.

Canes have improved...so have the NOles. Here are Jacory Harris' numbers from last years game. 3/7 32 yards 1 int. If you think he is going to go into Tallahassee and have a great game you are dellusional. This is FSU not Duke. You are one Harris tweaked ankle away from a disaster...don't forget that. Also, if you think that an offense is going to be clicking their first game with a new Offensive staff you are kidding yourselves. It takes time. Not saying the Noles don't have issues, but they return Ponder and the entire O line that lead the way to 200 + rushing yards last year on UM. Think what you want....Go NOles!

I've been optimistic & talked poo about my Canes for too long now w/o having them back it up on the field. I promised myself this year I wouldn't do that again.

depth chart predictions.

How many different levels is that hilarious on?

Keep em guessin Marbles. GT and Feee-shoo are sittin around right now killing themselves tryin to figger out you depth chart.

LMAO.. what a clown shannon is. Wake up dude, you're insulting ALL of your starters and everyone who cares about them. It's a football team not a CIA hit list jakazz.

Posted by: wes building depths( sic) but its a secrets


Or is the depth chart a secret to try to foster competition within the team? And that's about the dumbest approach imaginable. Is your depth chart that shakey that you really don't know who the starters are?

You are NOT HC material Shannon.

I love the Canes...

But the only way that Miami keeps this game close in Tally is if we run for 200+ yards and control the clock. Of course, the Canes are capable of winning, but FSU has superior talent, experience, and home field advantage.

FSU has a good OL...Both of our staring DEs are hurt. Our OL is unproven, at best.

Ponder proved last year that he is a good enought QB to win. He's no Chris Rix (unfortunately).

hahahah LKN.... damn I miss chris rix!

Maybe we could petition the NCAA to give Nix another year of eligibility. You could always count on him to make 3 or 4 absolutely bonehead plays whenever he played the Canes --and always at the most critical times. He should be in the Canes Hall of Fame.

Hey Go Noles, before you make yourself look stupid again ( showing JH last yr #s) you should understand the game a bit more, there is totaly no comparison between last yrs (25% rep backup to marve JH and this years 80% rep starter) the starter gets the reps in practice to better himself and his timeing , last yr he didnt get it, and still did well over all , this yr, he has gotten the reps and you just keep telling yourself he is a 3 of 7 , one intcept QB. I hope your teams beleives that too!! and for running the ball, well who wins that battle is yet to be seen.. your vet line blocking or our superior backs makeing plays.

And you know that how Keith? Did Kyle Wright ever get better from his 1st year as a starter? Jacory has proven nothing. If Miami is counting on him to win games, they are in big trouble. Its going to come down to Cooper and Chambers. Look at the TB's Dorsey had, they made him look.

Canes still rule!

You FSU fans are the ones who are delusional. Do you honestly expect Jacory Harris to come out and play the same way he played last year against you guys? The QB who took the majority of the reps in last years game isn't even going to be playing on Monday. Jacory played like crap because he could not get into a rhythm, and also because thats a huge game for a true freshman to be playing in.

Jacory Harris may not be the solution, but he is with out a doubt not the problem. The problem with Miami is going to be their O-Line, run D, and our secondary. If those 3 units fail on Monday, then its not going to matter how Jacory plays. I have confidence in him but I'm not so sure about those three units. Just going to have to wait and see, but it will definitly be exciting to watch.

Randy Shannon is a fool. He continues to not play his best players and treat a college team like a bad highschool team. If Vernon is better than the guys left he should start. If Spence and Telemaque is better the the guys ahead of them they should start. Waiting 4 games or giving sorry upperclass starts and playing time is dumb and pointless and why we loss. Willie Cooper, Khalil Jones should have never started a game at Miami but they did. Khalil Jones starting last season over Bryd, Benjamin, and A. Johnson is stupid. Honestly Hankerson shouldn't be starting over Bryd or Johnson. Unless Vernon is injured he should be the starter. Randy Shannon needs to stop with the highschool play my upperclassmen crap.

Vernon will play most of the downs.

Coach Shannon hasnt listed his depth chart yet

So as of today nobody really knows the depth chart except for the coaching staff and maybe the players but thats it and thats the way it should be

Still 5 days until kickoff

5 days! Starting to feel it boil!

Canes got some tricks up their sleeves!

I understand JH is obviously going to get more playing time this game and expect his numbers to be more than 3/7. My point is that he doesn't have much experience playing in this big game. It will be all new to him. So many Canes fans are expecting him to be the real deal this year. Maybe he will..maybe he won't. My point was just that Harris really hasn't had a chance to experience this series. He will not go to Tallahassee and throw for 300 yards and 3 TD's. Not gonna happen. As Cav said, Jacory has proven nothing. Who knows what you guys are going to get with him. It seems he played well against Duke and Virginia last year..not exactly the same competition.

Go Noles, while you are correct JH doesn't have a whole lot of experience in this game he does have some advantages most of your first time starters don't have. He was there and did play in the game last year even though it was in a very limited role. He's the starter now and is practicing as the starter. He started in two games last year and played in the rest. While it's not the same as playing in the FSU rivalry game, he does have big game experience.. HS national championship game and the bowl game against Cal last year. He's bigger and stronger and has all of last years experience... he will not be a wide eyed freshman. If the OL gets the job done JH will be in good shape and should play quite nicely. Of course if the OL is the same as last year he'll be in trouble. JH is not the part of the offense I'm worried about. It doesn't matter how good he is if he doesn't get the time to drop back and pass.

Have at it Cane Tards and Semiholes ... The Forum is all Urs to battle out Ur Mediocrity.


Best seat in the house huh Arty ?

I understand JH is obviously going to get more playing time this game and expect his numbers to be more than 3/7. My point is that he doesn't have much experience playing in this big game. It will be all new to him. So many Canes fans are expecting him to be the real deal this year. Maybe he will..maybe he won't. My point was just that Harris really hasn't had a chance to experience this series. He will not go to Tallahassee and throw for 300 yards and 3 TD's. Not gonna happen. As Cav said, Jacory has proven nothing. Who knows what you guys are going to get with him. It seems he played well against Duke and Virginia last year..not exactly the same competition.

Posted by: Go Noles | September 02, 2009 at 08:17 PM

JH will make you eat your words. He is ready, and he will play well enough to win this game, but this game it's not about JH. It's about the team.

Let's prove Miami is back. Miami has better talent and coaches than the noles, and it will show.

Moncur is a weak asz. Groin injury my butt. Boy, if youant to play football in the NFL, bite the dang bullet and get out there and stop whining!

My groin hurts. Well, so does mine, and I go to work every morning.

why do you keep coming back you old ass granpa lookin idiot just to complain of injuries and never get on the field. you are wasting a roster spot and a scholarship. and you are hurting the team growth process

The problem with Miami is going to be their O-Line, run D, and our secondary

posted by: Anthony

not to mention NOTHING there at DE verses FSU's stout O-line. Watch the package that dumbo Fisher uses to expose that. Games are won or lost up front and that will be glaringly obvious in a few days. Flushing Ponder out of the pocket won't help. Watch him pick up first downs running outside of his tackles ALL NIGHT LONG. Will UM tackle better than last years lightweights? It certainly can't be any WORSE.

The 3 and outs will be the downfall of the canes. The O-line STINKS. Bosher will have a career punting night. Before the canes defense catches their breath on the sideline it will be "back out there fellas." the tv commercial breaks in ptimetime are the D's only bright spot.

Fsu35 - UM 24

LETS GO CANES....Only concern this season is "INJURIES". Key players need to stay healthy. That means, HARRIS needs to be protected like an egg in an egg toss competition. BOTTOM LINE- We will have a great year if the O LINE can protect.

WHOOOOOSH....a storm is coming and FSU is about to get smacked in the mouth! UM 30- FSU-23

Let's go Canes!!!

It going to be a tremendous season.

Screw the haters. We are winning the Orange Bowl.

I love the trash talk! Gonna be an exciting week.

Noles fans, it is pretty dumb to take the results from last year, throw individual numbers around, and think they will have any bearing on what this team is capable of. Aside from the coordinators, which are much, much better than last years, any real Canes fan knows that Shannon ran the entire season last year like one long fall training camp. We got very mad at him for this, especially once we could win the ACC and he didn't stop the plan, but that kind of thinking is going to pay off this year.

We rotated QB's not because he thought he'd win more games last year but because he didn't want to hold back either QB going into this season. As a result, Harris has played at UF and at A&M, 2 of the loudest stadiums in the country...and he'll be ready for the Doak! He played 8-9 WR's because they were all so good he needed to get them all experience, not because he thought the offense would be more productive that way. It probably cost us the ACC last year, but Shannon was thinking about THIS YEAR and NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, not 1 league title! It goes on like this at every position.

That means you can't throw numbers around regarding these guys and have them mean anything. Last year was 1 long training camp. This year is the first real season, and his plan is going to pay off.

Fsu35 - UM 24

Posted by: Ponder will crush U yet AGAIN | September 03, 2009 at 07:50 AM

41 to 39 ain't exactly crushing, my friend.

Hopefully, the backup DE's will do better than people think. If so, we'll blow FSU out of the water. If not, expect a high scoring game.

UM 45 FSU 23, even through the first two quarters.

'Canes biggest question mark is going to be o-line. And the FSU fan made a good point about new coach/personnel in away game, first of the season at that. UM is going to come out real shaky. I think the D is better, and so FSU will come up with little early too. I think if UM does not let up any big plays, and can run (that means you BabJ/Coop), Miami will win a close low scoring battle. As good as the 'Canes young talent is, you have to remember, Shanon still has not shown he can manage it well. We'll see.

Why do Noles and gaytors come and post here, it's really weak...I would not waste my team reading their posts or stories.

Gentlemen: please Harris stinks, and we have lost THREE excellent QB prospects via transfers doesn't that tell you something? Shannon is ruining this fine program!

Go Gators!

Go Gators!

Go Gators!

Go Gators!

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