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Are the Canes really done with Todd Chandler?

Everybody and their mother is reporting that Miami Northwestern defensive tackle Todd Chandler is no longer committed to the University of Miami. But is it true? Or, are we dealing with a recruit's bruised ego and a tiff between a program and a local star?

Todd Chandler  I spoke to Chandler twice Tuesday on my cell phone during visits to Miramar High and Belen Jesuit -- the two remaining South Florida high school football teams playing for state championships this week in Orlando. My impression of this internet ratings sensation of a story: the 6-foot, 300-pound prospect (considered a four-star recruit by both Rivals and Scout.com) is upset with the Canes because he hasn't heard from them in a while. But is Chandler definitely not headed to Miami anymore? No. And I won't believe it until he signs a scholarship to another school until National Signing Day.

Chandler has been a UM commitment since his junior year. He plays for the one high school in Miami-Dade County the Canes could ill-afford to anger for dropping one of their players. You remember the West, don't you? The school Randy Shannon and his entire staff came to watch in October during the Northwestern-Central nationally televised showdown. The school that sent eight recruits to Miami in 2007.

It simply doesn't make sense for Chandler to get dropped like a bad habit six weeks before National Signing Day. "I switched to USF tonight," Chandler told me by phone at around 9 p.m. 

Why? "Coach [Jim] Leavitt said they want me real bad," Chandler said. "They got room for me."

Is it a done deal? Are you finished with the Hurricanes? "I don't know. I'm confused," Chandler said. "I'm still thinking about UCF, Colorado State and Louisville. I still have to talk to my dad and uncle about things, see what they think."

But Todd, what went wrong with Miami? "The way they're acting makes me feel like they aren't recruiting me anymore," he said. "It's been so long, I don't remember how their voice sounds. The last time I spoke to [recruiting coordinator Clint Hurtt] was during the football season. The last time I talked to coach Shannon was last year."

But didn't I see you at practice a bunch of times this season? Didn't you hang out at UM all the time? "I was going to practice, but the way they made it seem was like they were playing me," Chandler said. "When I spoke to coach [Wesley] McGriff three weeks ago, I asked him what the deal was, why they were looking at other defensive tackles. He said they were just recruiting."

When asked if UM were to call him tomorrow telling him they wanted him, Chandler said he would have to think about things. "We'll have to see what happens," Chandler said. "At first, I was disappointed. But I know I can go anywhere and become a star. My grades and my test are in order. I can qualify where I want to go."

Chandler said he's still considering UCF, Louisville, Colorado State and Louisville. But my guess is we will still hear a lot about the Canes and Chandler over the next few weeks. I just don't want to be a part of it. I had enough with Bryce Brown last year.

For the record, our recruiting writer Larry Blustein is on board with me in believing all of these Chandler reports make for great reading at internet paysites.

"This is a Miami Northwestern program with 25 Division I recruits," Blustein said. "Why would they ever jeopardize their relationship with a program in their backyard like that? It's not like Chandler is an add on. He's one of the best defensive tackles in the country. I'd be shocked if Randy Shannon just really cut him loose because they are upset about him taking other recruiting visits."

CANES OPEN PRACTICE FRIDAY: I'll be in Orlando this weekend for the state championships, but our Susan Miller Degnan will be out there Friday and Saturday and will provide reports at MiamiHerald.com. UM will practice again Tuesday and Wednesday next week before heading to Orlando on Christmas Day. I'll be arriving in Orlando Dec. 26.

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Thanks Manny, but I think this is some sort of recruiting ploy by other Florida Schools trying to make their mark here in Miami-Dade County. All schools know that the best recruits are here in South Florida and the only way to stop the "U" from becoming the States best is by breaking the strong ties that the "U" has in Miami Dade County. The job of the coaching staff is to make sure that does not happen. GOOO! CANES!

Not staying in contact with recruits is not good practice. I have always hear Myer send a couple hundred text messages per day to recruits. I hope Shannon and staff didn't just get a few wins under there belt this year and start slacking off. Also I have always hear if you get a bowl game that gives the team an extra 15 practices. It looks like what you wrote above we are going to practice like 6 times before the bowl game. Whats up with that? We slacking off??

He sounds like a prima dona to me.....

Manny,

Thank you for your hard work. You're reporting keeps me well informed up here in Orlando.

I know it's early, but I'm concerned about the amount of highly touted recruits losing interest in Miami. We seem to have quite a few 3 star level commits, but can't seem to get the big timers this year. Florida, Florida State and others seem to be plucking all of the highest level talent out of South Florida. With the Canes appearing to be on an upswing and Shannon/staff's reputation of being strong recruiters, something is not making sense.

Any thoughts regarding this would be much appreciated.

Thank you!

If we get him good and if we don't good. Personally I think he is to short to play in the 4-3 defense. He definetly won't be a pass rusher and we have enough of those on the squad now. He would be a perfect fit in a 3-4 defense, where he can play nose tackle. We need some 6'4 or 6'5 290 guys at tackle that can cave the pocket in up the middle. Wilfork was the last really good D.T. we had, that created havoc up front. WE NEED A SACK MASTER UP FRONT. If I had to beg one of the two D.T.'s we lost, it would be Nix. The man we need is J.R. Ferguson.

I think Manny is right on this one.

Per ESPN:

Chandler still committed to Miami but has South Florida on top

Under Armour All-American defensive tackle Todd Chandler (Miami/Northwestern) informed ESPN's Craig Haubert Wednesday morning that he still considers himself a Miami-FL commitment but that South Florida is his top school.

The ESPNU 150 talent will also listen to North Carolina, Louisville and Central Florida before making his decision on signing day.

It was believed Tuesday evening that Chandler had dropped Miami in favor of South Florida. He told the Miami Herald, "I switched to South Florida tonight." Colorado State was mentioned as another possible school in the mix and the Tar Heels were not.

Todd Chandler seems to be trying to grab attention. He is naming second tier schools. If he said he was going to Florida or Florida State even, I would belive it. I have a hard time thinking the northwestern guys wont be telling him to come on board. Willis also seems to be liking Miami. I think Micheale Harris and Ivan MaCCartney want to be canes but also want to play. We need defense and OL. I hope we land Linder, Willis, and Chandler. Honestly, I think the Espn documentary might help recruiting because you look at the talent that has played at the U and it is unparelled.

" I asked him what the deal was, why they were looking at other defensive tackles."

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HUH?!?!?

It's hard to believe he said this, but I'll trust Manny to get his quotes right. But what the hell - does this guy really want to be the ONLY DT in the recruiting class? That makes no sense, at the very least he should want another guy to line up next to him. I hope this is just a 17 yr old acting 17 and getting senioritis for a moment, but it's starting to look like Chandler might be a bit of a drama case. and I don't think UM needs or wants guys like that

Jeopardize their relationship? Like not recruiting one guy is going to offset having like 8 MNW guys on the team right now. Yeah, we know you people jock the local guys but be realistic.

He should be ashamed of himself for acting like a big baby, He has been committed to UM for almost 2 years now...so he hasnt heard from the coaches in a couple weeks and he starts pouting????

Hello Mr. Chandler you've been committed so long that the coaches think your solid, and are chasing other recruits who are still on the fence about where there going.

Having said that, UM coaches would be foolish to not get in contact with Chandler and make him feel good again because losing a talent like him would hurt and they definitely dont need to lose any respect with Miami NW and there players

I personally do not believe that UM has "stopped" recruiting him; however, please answer these questions before we crown him the next Warren Sapp:

- Is he academically eligible for UM
- Is he that good
- Is he better than Marcus Forston, who we in this blog were crowning him as the "the next one"- we now know how that has turned out thus far!
- Is he "venting" unecessarily since UM has to do its due diligence?
- Do we all think we know more than the UM coaches, who know all the inside scoop on this player or others who may have more potential than him?

I for one, am pleased about the NW connection, but I am growing weary of the over-hype about Bulls players. Please bring a national ch. to the canes, then we can talk. And it hasnt been all Miami NW. They have contributed, yes, but its not all NW: Is Berry a Bull? No. Is Hankerson? No. Bailey? No. Coop? No. Franklin? Trump? Sharpton? MacCarthy?

So let's just wait and see. I am so tired of these hs kids spewing their mouths to the press before anything plays out. He's going to needlessly marginalize the rest of the canes players, the way Bryce Brown would have had he still come to the U.

Todd- where were you against Central?

It seems like the same old story, Patrick Peterson, Louis Nix and know Todd Chandler said the same thing. I don't understand, don't the coaches know that just because someone gave you a verbal it doesn't mean other teams are not recruiting them. The guys that give you early verbals are the one's you have to stay on top of. Really stop when the coaches start thinking they're bigger the the whole picture. Wake up Randy, we have alot of work left before another NC.

While we will never know the real story, I would love to find out what gives here... GO CANES! Reel this guy in.

If there's one thing Randy stands out for, it's his recruiting. So let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Just a reminder:

Bailey
J. Harris
B. Harris
Spence
Benjamin
Byrd
M. James
Ray Ray

ALL STUDS

YA DIG? Get off his back.

UM does not want him - period. Why, I don't know? but Randy's recruiting style lately has been to stop communicating with top recruits, When other teams are constantly communication, that approach will backfire on him and the team - out of sight out of mind. Either play the recruiting game or be prepared to lose.

Its very peaceful on here as of late. i really miss bashing those imposters on our site. we are the U. either U are with us or not. if U are sensitive becuz no one is jockn u about ur commitment then so be it. We gotta a must win bowl game and u are acting like that. Have more respect for what U want to be a part of. With or without u we gone ball. hopefully its with U. please beleive

It's not a grade thing, it's a "I'm living in the past thing from the U". Wake up Coaches, these are kids they want to feel like they are wanted. Same story came out with Patrick Peterson, Louis Nix, Darryl Hall and Know Todd Chandler. I haven't heard from the coaches, whata U think other schools are doing. O this guy gave a verbal stay away. Don't be fools, yu have to stay on top of your recruits. Look at who's on top know. Alabama, Texas, Florida, they have one thing in common they go after the top players, if they suck who cares they're stacked. Recruiting has changed get with the program coaches.You lose Chandler it messes up your relationship at NW, schools know they can go after players from that school once they break the barrier. Things are looking very cloudy lately.....We keep acting like a 9-3 record has us back, whata joke. Our DL had no push all year, so whata we do stop talking to the 7th best tackle in the country a Cane recruit in Nix. Lose him to ND, the guy is 6'3 weighing 315lbs... Ridiculous!!!!

Todd, what are you going to do? This is your decision and you have to make it. You are either a Cane or not. Stop crying b/c you are not getting any attention at this time. Let's go CANES!!!!!!!!!!

This will be fun to watch to see if the staff and ex NW players can get him back. We have no pass rush this year so we need all the D-line help we can get.

Rivals #1 overall recruit, OL Seantrel Henderson sets fifth visit.....The U. If they could somehow pull this kid, I would be in awe. I hear he has great footwork and is a fantastic pass blocker and we all know Jacory needs some protection. They better break out every trick they can to land this kid. I'd be getting Irvin, Reed, Lewis, Portis, Shockey, Vilma, and especially big boy Wilfork to let this kid know he should be at The U.

The kid is showing traits you would not want in a recruit. Immaturity, selfishness and lack of composure. He basically wants UM coaches to kiss his _ _ _ after he already promised his loyalty to joining the program. Come on people. The bloggers ripping UM or Randy are complete idiots!

Have you spent 2 years looking at this kid play? Have you studied his film? For every "can't miss" 3-4-5 star rated kid who is a stud there are many more who NEVER pan out to be better than average (or worse). The ratio is heavily tilted to "rated" kids who amount to NOTHING! Look at Fortson.

It's pathetic how supposed fans turn on UM because some way too short-undersized 18 year lineman (who does not get sacks!) says he won't sign with UM. This kid does not have the body or the on the field track record to ever become another Jerome Brown, Russell Maryland, Cortez Kennedy, Warren Sapp or Vince Wilfork. What a bunch of dummies we have on here!

The heck with this kid. UM has BIG, TALENTED and VERY YOUNG defensive tackles returning in 2010. Not to mention the D tackles they will sign this year! UM needs O Line, Linebacker and Corner Back/Athlete help.

If you geniuses here blasting Randy took time to look at this incoming class you would see those three positions are the ones they are signing in numbers!

Thank God Randy and his staff know how to evaluate and recruit the right kids. I hope this kid enjoys playing at South Florida and getting pounded by UM!

This really doesnt make any sense on allof of diffrent levels....

Ok #1 Todd Chandler was cool when HE and Louis Nix was slated as the Defensive Tackles on this years class...

Everyone in the nation knows that Louis Nix went over to Notre Dame, but Todd Chandler is asking why we're still recruiting Defensive Tackles?

Am I reading this right... Todd Chandler thinks its a good idea to be the only Defensive Tackle in this years class????

Da U doesn't have the right to replace the Defensive Tackle that switched over to Notre Dame????

That's like a child throwing a temper tantrum when his little brother is born????

Todd, quit playing around, wake up, and look at the big picture!

Randy Shannon already took his umbrella and made sure to personally get you in the house alright; so that you don't catch the flu...

How can you be mad cause he's went back out with the umbrella to bring your brother in the house too?

Maybe the kid wants playing time, and sees those schools as needing DTs...hence, more opportunity to play.

The self-annointed "U" may not be for everyone. This kid may want to hit it big elsewhere. Last time I checked, the NFL has a few players that did not attend "Da U".

There is something going on with Chandler as none of the major colleges are recruiting him. USF, UCF, Colorado State and Lousiville... give me a break!!!! Even Kiffin at UT is not recruiting him.

Does anybody really close to the coaches know what is really going on??? I have read rumours he is not in school at the moment, he sucker punched a team-mate and he is not a team player.

Plus we are heavily recruiting other DT's. I really believe Chandler will not be part of this class.

I don't understand why Miami is having a real good year 9-3 and there recruiting is not that good only a few four star recruits, while they have a bad year 5-7 in 2007 and their recruiting is excellent two five star recruits and fifteen or more four star recruits. Hopefully the lower recruits in this class turn out to be great. I know that you can't invest too much in the rankings.

I personally do not believe that UM has "stopped" recruiting him; however, please answer these questions before we crown him the next Warren Sapp:

- Is he academically eligible for UM
- Is he that good
- Is he better than Marcus Forston, who we in this blog were crowning him as the "the next one"- we now know how that has turned out thus far!
- Is he "venting" unecessarily since UM has to do its due diligence?
- Do we all think we know more than the UM coaches, who know all the inside scoop on this player or others who may have more potential than him?

I for one, am pleased about the NW connection, but I am growing weary of the over-hype about Bulls players. Please bring a national ch. to the canes, then we can talk. And it hasnt been all Miami NW. They have contributed, yes, but its not all NW: Is Berry a Bull? No. Is Hankerson? No. Bailey? No. Coop? No. Franklin? Trump? Sharpton? MacCarthy?

So let's just wait and see. I am so tired of these hs kids spewing their mouths to the press before anything plays out. He's going to needlessly marginalize the rest of the canes players, the way Bryce Brown would have had he still come to the U.

Todd- where were you against Central?

Posted by: Da U | December 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

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The best post of 2009!!!

I had pancakes for breakfast Todd enjoys WAFFEL'S

I don't understand why Miami is having a good year 9-3 and there recruiting is not that good only a few four star recruits, while they have a bad year 5-7 in 2007 and their recruiting is excellent two five star recruits and fifteen or more four star recruits. I just don't understand why more people don't want to play for the Hurricanes. They are on the rise and in the not too distant future they will contend for national titles. Hopefully the lower recruits in this class turn out to be great. Look at Willie Williams being a bust as a five star and Colin McCarthy being a great linebacker as a three star.

Once again after reading this I'll believe it when I see it

I will say one thing, that both USC and Oklahoma have recruited 4 and 5 star guys for years and look at their records. USC 8-4 Oklanoma 7-5. According to many so called recruiting experts the "U" has had only one very good recruiting year and yet we finished with a better record than both of them. Next years schedule will tell us everything we need to know about how good or bad our recruiting is/was. At Ohio State, Pitt, G-Tech and Clemson. V-Tech, North Carolina and Florida State at home. Yep, we will know soon enough. GOOOO! CANES!

SWITCH THE KID TO FULL BACK

Isn't the word on the street that he doesn't even a commitable scholarship offer? Any truth to this rumor Manny?

Point Blank, If I offer a kid a scholarship and he says he wants to accept it, and come to my school, thats it. This deal doesnt include me kissin up to you letting you know how much I like you, or explaining to you why Im recruiting another player. You wanted to come, we offered you a scholarshipo and you accepted and committed, point blank. I wouldnt want a player that feels like he needs extra attention, or is sensitive and emotinally weak. Needs to see Dr. Phil not the Canes. I think its alla stunt to get attention, may backfire like Bryce Brown and b/c of his actions Canes may grow uninterested.

I will say one thing, that both USC and Oklahoma have recruited 4 and 5 star guys for years and look at their records. USC 8-4 Oklanoma 7-5. According to many so called recruiting experts the "U" has had only one very good recruiting year and yet we finished with a better record than both of them. Next years schedule will tell us everything we need to know about how good or bad our recruiting is/was. At Ohio State, Pitt, G-Tech and Clemson. V-Tech, North Carolina and Florida State at home. Yep, we will know soon enough. GOOOO! CANES!

Posted by: jra | December 16, 2009 at 04:08 PM


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Usc and Ok are diferent...lets see OK lost its HEISMAN QB..that might hurt them, ya think...USC lost there QB to the pros...YA think they noticed the difference....Look Miami has always has 3-5 star guys and won..we have 5 stars and lost...VT and GT hardly ever get 5 star and never get 5 star or 4 star QB..yet we cant beat them to save or hineys...Jacory is the difference on this team this year and we just out scored other teams...The defense is the problem and like OK injuries played a huge part..our D got better and I see next year as even being better with all the exp the young guys got in crucial situations..and the players like Sharpton and Phillips that were okay for FIU but not pure cane football players...they never made a difference...I see the Ray Rays and Arthur Browns being the new leaders on D..with Brandon being a all American corner...leading the way. The D line will be healthy and hopefully very agressive next year...we all know the Offense will score and move the ball against anyone in the country we just need the D to play Miami D and not give up 500 yards to the Wake Forests and Clemsons of the world..it is time to take the ACC and run with it...starting with WISC and blowing them out in the bowl game...hope to see you all there GO CANES

Seems like we don't want him. The only thing USF took from us is a beating.

The only thing that Randy Shannon had going for him, was the perception that he was a great recruiter and he would eventually put so much talent on the team, that they would win despite him. The 2010 recruiting season is all of a sudden coming apart, and last years class was not considered great by any stretch either.I am a UM fan, so i hope that in the end miami finishes the recruiting process strong, since in the end the teams with the most talent win most of the time, i'm pretty sure Brian Kelly was not dumb at central Michigan and became a genious at Cincinnatti for example, but if Shannon keeps losing out on players like P Patterson,B Brown and doesn't even ofer legacies like J Gore, Shannon will be out of a job in the very near future.he better hope JR Ferguson,T Wilson, Mcartney,C Jones and Willis become canes, the good news is that it seems most of them will and B Linder while far from a cane lock could come on board, rumor has it DT Leon Orr currently a Gaytor commit could switch and the canes are still trying to lure TE C Thomas from California.

what ever happened to Matt Patchan- remember him- had his own press conference with 2 hats on the table- UF and UM chose the gators- i didn't see him play in the SEC championship game- did I miss something
go canes

I'll make this short-the big schools(UNC,UF,Miami etc) all took a look at him and decided he's an average player at best. The U is probably thinking they can bring in someone better. It works both ways.

If he was such a good prospect, I'm sure he could've done better than USF,UCF, and L'ville.

Great point made by someone above about the merit of these high school rating experts! UM-Randy haters chew on this: Since forever these schools always clean up on the 4-5 star high school kids. These schools ALWAYS rank in the top 10 recruiting class ratings: USC, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Michigan, Florida State,LSU. Their records today: Average to they stink!

Yet the UM-Randy haters keep on and on and on..

Please!

Please guys, Miami doesn't want him. He's been recruiting Miami much harder than Miami has recruited him. None of the big 3 in Florida have offered, the recruiting sites got one wrong. All the schools that have actually scouted him decided to pass. It's not his fault, hes dying to be a Cane, but it's just not a good fit. He's ok, Miami's ok, no harm done to the Northwestern pipeline, life goes on.

Aruther brown and Ramon Buchnan were supposed to be 4-5 star superstars. Jacory and Mike James was only 3 star. So, ratings can be off.

Could Brandon Willis be the reason Chandler is rethinking his decision?

Feburary is a long ways away and we losing recruits like this. This is not good because other schools are watching and licking there chops because they can use this against the U whn they interview with these guys. Both sides needs to stop what they doing and get these guys in the program. The U has come a long way after three years. We do need this guy and I know its is a lot of other kids in Florida but these guys are going to other big programs like Florida, Texas, USC, Oklahama, LSU, and others. Lets keep these guys at the U. Our coaches needs to keep in contact whether by phone or game visits. We need to keep this and our guys in the families because other programs aregetting better and getting better coaches. Trust me we need to keep our Florida guys. Also, I hope we stop playing these cup cake teams and get back to the 80s style of playing big teams. No more FAMU and FIU. Keep UCF and South Florida. Put USC,Texas, Michagan, Alabama, Iowa, and Penn St. That film got me hype because of the schedule and the swag we had. The U is ready and back now.

T.C. c ommitted to USF on 12/16/09. We will see him when the U beat the crap out of them next year. T.C you talking bout the C.A.N.E.S. was not hounding you. Man do you need a hug? You should not want someone hounding you. You will pay switch out. Besides how many players have USF put in the next level versus the canes. Pick your poison numnuts.

I think this is simply Todd's feeble attempt to work a little mojo...

He's attempting to use the same tactic Greg Dent did, when he committed to Miami, but really wanted to play at Florida State.

Todd probably doesn't really have an offer and is getting nervous, so he decided to pull this stunt...

After thinking about it, I though I'd put myself in Todd Chandler's shoes... Here's Todd's thought process: If I was Todd and was waiting for an offer, and saw Louis Nix have a change of heart, I would think that Miami would say ok Bingo , lets lock up the kid that does want to play here at that position... Instead, Miami is looking at other DT's before giving Todd his offer???

...hmmm, now i sympathize, cause it does show how desprately Todd want to play for Da U. If you don't bleed Orange and Green, then it's no sweat off ur back...

But by name dropping a school like USF, Todd thinks that Randy will say OH NO!, i don't want to lose another recuit to South Florida!!!

Yeah maybe, Shannon is to tough of a chess player to fall for that one...

I like the kid, because he has the mentality of a 'Miami Guy', as he displays a big heart on the field. But lets face the truth, he's listed at 6'1 300lbs... But, this guy is really 5'10 275; his potential is limited, honestly.

He's simply a high motor guy that took advantage of playing next to Marcus Forston (who was being double teamed) which allowed him to make some plays...

All said and done, I still would give him an offer, he'll have enough steam behind him to push himself harder at this point...

I still think Miami is going to pick up another Tackle though; why would U settle for 1 DT in the class that's 5'10 275lbs?

In Randy We Trust!

DA U is who we thought they were.. TC or no TC. this kid is the next Willie willimas let it go canes fans let it go........

If he doesn't want to compete against others for playing time, then he doesn't belong here.

Recruiting has multiple factors, not just one. Kids can choose to attend a school for many reasons:

- A specific coach or staff (Casey Clausen and Weiss)
- An existing alligence - they are fans of a program or parents are alums (AJ Highsmith)
- Friends are going there (NW kids)
- A winning program (UF recruits)
- Whatever the school give parents (Patrick Peterson and LSU)
- Education (That South Fl linemen who went to Stanford)
- The kid knows he's not ready to start (Matt Patchan)
- The kid wants to go where he's worshipped from day 1 (Bryce Brown)

No one factor recruits all kids. You almost need a combination of factors to land recruits.

It seems like we have a nice mix and Randy Shannon does a great job of selling parents.

Ask the kid from Pace how choosing USF over UM faired out?

Oh yeah.... a 20 plus point beatdown at home.

I hope this is a misunderstanding that can currected with a sit down chat because I am looking forward to seeing this young man in canes orange and green.As a long time fan I can and will say we want you here in the canes family.

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