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Is UM fading down the recruiting stretch?

I got to enjoy a few days off after the Orange Bowl last week and took comfort in the fact there probably wouldn't be much Canes news outside of what Frank Haith's basketball team would do Saturday night against Wake Forest in a big ACC showdown.

It was definitely a good win for the Canes, who needed a big win to hang their hat on after going 14-1 against what was ranked the 313th best non-conference schedule. But as much as I want to keep focus on Canes hoops, the disturbing trend of emails I've been receiving lately concerning what U perceive as UM fading down the recruiting stretch warrants conversation.

Javarie Johnson Sunday night, UM lost yet another commitment from its 2010 class when Javarie Johnson of Dunbar High in Washington -- considered the Canes' top linebacker -- switched from UM to Maryland. According to several recruiting websites, Johnson's coaches said he wanted to stay closer to home.  Canesport.com reported Johnson scored below an 820 on his SAT, which is the athlete requirement for admission to UM. Either way, Johnson became the third highly-rated recruit to drop off UM's commitment list since December, joining Miami Northwestern defensive tackle Todd Chandler (now headed to USF) and Jacksonville's Louis Nix (bound for Notre Dame) 

The Hurricanes basically replaced Johnson with little known Kelvin Cain, a 6-4, 215-pound linebacker from Clovis Buchanan High School in California. Cain's other scholarship offers were from Fresno State, Portland State, Nevada and San Jose State, according to CaneSport. 

Losing "commitments" is never good, especially those considered highly ranked. But it happens in recruiting. So you probably shouldn't be stunned or feel like the Canes' recruiting efforts are crumbling to the ground when it happens. 

The real cause for concern will be if UM doesn't close strong come Feb. 3. Right now, most recruiting analysts would tell you this UM class being put together after a 9-3 season and bowl loss to Wisconsin is average at best, and certainly not anywhere near the top of any national rankings. UM has met needs. There are seven offensive linemen (St. Thomas Aquinas tackle Brandon Linder, Malcolme Bunche and Shane McDermott are solid), four linebackers (Gainesville Kevin Nelson is impressive), four cornerbacks (none highly regarded), three running backs (Storm Johnson and Eduardo Clements are considered high-end), two tight ends (JUCO signee Chase Ford should help right away), a quarterback, a safety, a defensive end and a receiver. 

But where critics say UM has failed is nabbing the stars in their own backyard. And they -- the critics -- would be right. The 2010 class in South Florida was considered one of the best in the country (as usual). Yet, when you look over the top names from Palm Beach south all the way to Homestead, there aren't many who will be heading to Coral Gables in a few months to continue their football careers. 

Look at the Top 40 players from South Florida according to Rivals.com and see where they are headed or what schools they are considering. I bolded the future Canes to make them easier to find... 

1. Matt Elam, DB, Palm Beach Dwyer (Florida commitment)
2. Lamarcus Joyner, CB, St. Thomas Aquinas (Florida State commitment)
3. Jeff Luc, LB, Port St. Lucie (Florida State commitment)
4. Ivan McCartney, WR, Miramar (UM/West Virginia)
5. Gerald Christian, TE, Palm Beach Dwyer (Florida commitment)
6. Chris Dunkley, WR, Pahokee (Florida commitment)
7. Corey Lemonier, DL, Hialeah High (UM among six schools, but not favored)
8. Cody Riggs, CB, St. Thomas Aquinas (Florida commitment)
9. Michaelee Harris, WR, Northwestern (Louisville commitment)
10. Joshua Reese, WR, Miami Central (UCF commitment)
11. Quinton Dunbar, WR, Booker T. Washington (Florida commitment)
12. Eduardo Clements, RB, Booker T. Washington (Miami commitment)
13. Jakhari Gore, RB, Columbus (LSU commitment)
14. Giovanni Bernard, RB, St. Thomas Aquinas (Notre Dame commitment)
15. Lynden Trail, DE, Booker T. Washington (Florida commitment)
16. Delvin Jones, DE, Miami Palmetto (Tennessee commitment)
17. Torrian Wilson, OL, Miami Northwestern (Michigan, Tenn, Louisville)
18. Todd Chandler, DT, Miami Northwestern (USF commitment)
19. Brandon Gainer, RB, Miami Central (undecided)
20. De'Joshua Johnson, WR, Pahokee (Florida State commitment)
21. Brandon Linder, OL, St. Thomas Aquinas (Miami commitment)
22. Ethan Grant, RB, North Broward Prep (TCU commitment)
23. James Louis, WR, Delray Beach Atlantic (Ohio State commitment)
24. Jeffrey Godfrey, QB, Miami Central (UCF commitment)
25. Demar Dorsey, S, Boyd Anderson (Florida commitment)
26. Ted Meline, WR, North Miami (Tennessee commitment)
27. Richard Ash, DT, Pahokee (Michigan commitment)
28. Calvin Smith, DT, Hialeah (Tennessee commitment)
29. Brian Robinson, DB, St. Thomas Aquinas (undecided)
30. Shawn Corker, WR, Cardinal Gibbons (Texas Tech commitment)
31. Keion Payne, CB, St. Thomas Aquinas (Miami commitment)
32. Allen Hurns, WR, Carol City (Miami commitment)
33. David Perry, DE, University (Miami commitment)
34. James White, RB, St. Thomas Aquinas (Wisconsin commitment)
35. Darrius Milines, WR, Delray American Heritage (West Virginia commitment)
36. Max Beaulieu, DE, University (Syracuse commitment)
37. Shane McDermott, C, Palm Beach Central (Miami commitment)
38. Zachary Allen, LB, Pahokee (Wake Forest commitment)
39. Tony Grimes, CB, Hollywood Hills (Michigan/Mississippi)
40. Charles Fashaw, TE, Miami Northwestern (Undecided)

There were a few other Canes sprinkled in the Rivals 100 for Florida from other parts of the state: OT Tavadis Glenn from Jacksonville Parker was sandwiched in between Meline and Ash in the state rankings at No. 44; RB Darion Hall from Naples Lely is ranked 75th, right after Fashaw. Gainesville LB Kevin Nelson follows at 77, Fort Myers High CB Jeremy Davis is ranked 78th, OL Jonathan Feliciano from Davie Western is listed 92nd and QB Stephen Morris from Monsignor Pace is 93rd. 

Rankings and stars aren't everything. But the fact remains there is a lot of talent in UM's backyard heading to other place (namely pretty good football programs). Randy Shannon and his staff could make up for it with some excellent evaluation work and coaching, getting under the radar guys, making them better players and superstars. And they still have plenty of other high-end recruits (No. 1 OL Seantrel Henderson, Lemonier, McCartney, LB Christian Jones, TE Christian Thomas) at least reportedly interested in giving the program a look with visits.

But here's my advice: Keep your fingers crossed and hope the guys Shannon hired to restock his program with talent are a lot better at this than Rivals.

> In case you were wondering... Last year, the Canes nabbed RB Lamar Miller, DB Brandon McGee, DL Luther Robinson and DL Olivier Vernon among the Top 12 South Florida prospects according to Rivals. Among the state's Top 100 recruits, UM signed No. 2 overall player and safety Ray Ray Armstrong, No. 33 prospect in defensive end Dyron Dye, No. 39 prospect in cornerback Jamal Reid, No. 43 prospect in RB Mike James and No. 92 prospect in OL Cory White.

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I agree with Cane1410 . Everyone needs to chill out.

1. Its alot easier to get into the UF & FSU academically than the U.

2. We have to many young players on the team already,so the top Recruits don't want to earn there spots. They just want to play now. And if you look at the current roster on UF & FSU they can play now.

3. Miami needs players like the old days. The players who want to come in and earn their position. Those guys work harder and become better players. ex. Ed Reed.

4. Miami will have a great season this year and then next year the recruits will come in knowing that they will have a chance to play since everyone will either be jr or sr's.


So chill out and wait till next season to start. Also , you never know how this will all end up on feb. 3

For all of those with so much to say about the number of stars behind a players name, you should probably think about this... The more camps and combines these kids attend, the higher they will be rated, and these camps cost $... Rivals and Scout hold these combines that these kids have to pay for to gain this national recognition... In additiong the same sights that rate these kids are the same sites that rate the recruiting classes of these universities, which seems to me to have some conflict of interest... I'm sure that all of the kids that Miami have gotten to commit have been heavily recruited by other schools... Kids like Keion Payne, Brandon Linder, and even Stephen Morris... I found an interesting article about Morris, fo all the naysayers...

http://insightnews.com/sports/4196-stephen-morris-wins-accolades-at-debartolo-football-academy

It's simple people: We are being out recruited by the other guys. We are coming to a gun fight with spit balls.

Tennessee and other schools bring a red carpet, helicopters, girls, and a full court blitz of semi-legal extras.

From a sour grapes perspective, Tennessee has so far had more recruits go to jail than make plays. When Jimbo fails in 2010, that will help. When post-Tebow UF falls apart in 2010, that will help. We'll have a better 2010, I just know it.

Accordingly to an article posted in the Orlando Sentinel recently, The U is taking a new approach to recruiting. The coaching staff is relying more on their own evaluations of players through film study and relying less on the recruiting services. Apparently they are trying to address the problem of having too many 4 and 5 star recruits turning out to be busts. Of course, if they do not develop the talent they recruit, the whole point is moot. But let's wait and see if this new approach works any better than the old approach. And frankly, I don't care how they approach it, but they need to stop loading up on the skill players and get us some quality lineman on both sides of the ball, and they need to do it as quickly is possible or this program will never be "back."

I think that we should wait and see what happens after National Signing day. Although it is disheartening to watch these H.S.Allstar games and no one is talking about the U. I also know that although you cannot put much stock in Rivals and Scout,you sure have a better probability that a superstar college player will develop from a kid that did well in high school. The odds are just better. Every good player is not a diamond in the rough. I am a fan of RS, but they really need to finish strong. Maybe we alum need to step up our aid to a family in need.

News Flash... this is a new Era - Cannot Recruit today's athletes with empty stadiums. Empty stadiums miles from the dorms does not excite these kids... it's not how college football should be played. BIG MISTAKE NOT Building ON Campus Stadium - HUGE MISTAKE !!!!!!!!!

Remember these are 17 yr olds who crave attention and excitement.

Don't care how many stars a kid has because after the Wisc. bowl game I'm convinced Shannon just isn't fit to be a HC. A 10 star player wouldn't make a difference.

Watched several bowls (not BCS ones) and Miami was one of a few teams (Houston & Arizona) that didn't bother to show up. All other teams and games were competitive and most even entertaining.

Let's be honest, do any of you out there even the homers (strike that, especially the homers) believe Shannon could coach up a "2 star" or "3 star" player?

Hopefully Pete Carroll fails in the NFL next year, Shannon has another sub par season & gets fired, & Carroll comes to the U

Most of you sound like morons. If you knew anything about football or College Recruiting then you would Know any Skill position (qb,rb,wr,s,lb,etc) better think twice wen looking at UM you losers...We are loaded for the next 2 to 3 years at our skill positions. WE NEEdED DEPTH...GREAT BACKUPS! NOT STARS WHO REQUIRE PLAYING TIME....IT was common sense we were goin to have a mediocore recruiting year this year...go to espn 2011 recruiting watchlist and see how many players are interested in helpin miami RELOAD NEXT YEAR if you wanna lEARN NE THING.

Chillaxe ... put another umbrella in Ur drink.

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As long as this trend continues of average recruiting classes, expect Miami to finish 7-5 to 9-3. Randy Shannon is NOT the coach that will take us to the level of UF, Alabama, Texas and USC. I like Randy, but he's not the guy. I do think that the U should hire Paul Pasqualoni to take over the D-Coordinator spot though.

NOVACane you are ignoring the fact that teams that consistently rank in the top five in recruiting also consistently rank in the top five in final polls. Do the research. On some occasion top five recruiting classes will not finish in top five in the polls, I blame that on the coaches. The definition of "Extremely Rare" is the team that produces average recruiting classes and consistently finishes in the top five in the final polls. Also, Miami has had great players come through there, but how many greats have come through in the past 5 years? I bet you can count the number using one hand.

One thing not mentioned is how early exits and senior graduating can decimate a team, whether you are "stacked" or not. The "re-load" thing can onlylast for so long-

following 2001, 11 players (many underclassmen) left for the NFL
2002- similar
2003 as well, especially key players like McGahee, and Gore, and Winslow. That can totally decimate a team, and along with sub par recruiting, it can kill you for a few years. Its almost as bad as going under NCAA sanctions.

Now, the gators are facing a similar situation:
Pouncey, Tebone, Spikes, Wright, Haden, Dunlap, Hernandez, Demps, are all leaving. Even though they are recruiting very well, they face a couple of years of uncertainty. No way the gators compete for a title in thenext 2 years. UM can and will, with this class, but next years seniors need to really bring it. Also, hopefully the injury bug doesnt strike again! But with Ojomo and Bailey back, as well as Forston, I think this squad will be tops.


Manny- what the update on Coop?

No one should be surprised by this. Dandy is in way over his head; a good coach, but not a CEO. He obviously lacks the charm and sales needed to sell the U. His "I'm from the streets too" approach isn't working either. A stellar record isn't there and the "this is the fast track to the pros" obviously is not working either. It looks to me like they really don't have a brand in which to market the U.

The U is right where this administration wants it and don't look for any changes in the years to come. The talent it "okay" at best, they have a coach that doesn't cost them any money, the U is kept out of the news in a negative way and graduation is on the plus side.

Recruits are going to winning programs with great facilities and excellent coaching.

These are the cold hard facts...a good year for the U will be 7, 8, or maybe 9 wins and that's it. Forget the ACC, NC not going to happen if things stay the same.

To all of you who think the U is not recruiting well. Remember that half of these football players do not have the grades to get into the U!!! UF/FSU/UCF/USF and all other "football" schools have much lower standards and they are state funded schools which means they have alot more money to go around. That being said, the U is a PRIVATE institution which means it gets very little to NO state funding.

Most of these 4 and 5 star guys who announce on national tv are "me" guys and randy shannon does not want those types of guys. Ever wonder why UF and FSU lead the state in arrests and dropouts???

It not only takes talent to go and succeed at the U now. IT TAKES GRADES and half these kids barely are 2.0 and go and 700 SAT achievers.

So before people start jumping off the bandwagon, at least know what you are talking about.

Respectfully, a canes fan since 1982

Now that Pete Carroll is at Seattle he will have a bad year, realize that he needs to be a college coach & will be available to the U after next season. Who here wouldn't want him in any situation?

I'm a football coach and I can tell you that Depth and Competition does more for a team than anything else. This class is going to provide just that.

The only hole I see in this class is the lack of a more bonafide Quarterback and a Premeire DB...

Other than that, everything else will simply allow us to fill in the gaps with solid players..

Although McCarthy would be awesome, and I see him starting by his Sophmore year if we can land this kid.

Randy is one of the best closers in the nation... We are still in the running for alot of the top recruits still left on the board.. Have Faith!

Oh, by the way, GREAT POST by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | January 11, 2010 at 09:40 AM

I see that too!!

Lets go Canes!!

manny,
This could get worse. I read that 2 committments are visitng other colleges this weekend. The recruiting class is becoming a total disaster. If Shannon does not win the ACC next year it MUST be OVER!!!!!!

He has home games with FSU, VA TECH, and NC. Dwyer, and Thomas are leaving GA tech. Clemson is loosing Spiller and Ford. If UM does not run the ACC table next year, Shannon must be Toast. He cannot even come close to recruiting even South Florida. What has happened?????
Not only that, but he is embarrasing himself and THE U by persuing one and 2 star replacement recruits. What is he doing????

Is HOCUTT watching???? Someone, please jhelp before it is too late!!!!!!

Manny,

Any word on whether the Canes will offer Cole Marcoux?

Everyone is concerned about stars, but 2 of your Top 3 Heisman guys were considered 3 star recruits coming out of high school. Don't go on stars. Let's see how many of these 5 star kids end up at the schools they committed to this year without having to sit at a prep school next year.

it's amazing and sad to see all these experts in recuiting on this blog all the experts in coaching on who the U should recuit if you don't like what the program is doing support FSU or FLA. but stop the whinning and and crying u sound like girlly men RS is going to be at the U along time so ether get use to it or jump off the wagon now and please still off it
.

do not blame Randy for all the commits leaving.Sometimes there is no right way to recruit & as fans we want him to do the right thing.From kids senior year until signing day is a long time.I was hating when we were losing a lot of recruits but I started looking at interviews & online recruiting sites & even on ESPNU college football station that talked about college football.Randy has to play hard sometimes to show these kids & fans he is about winning & to show he really want to get these kids to the NFL.Classes & grades are important to Randy.He has to be careful when recruiting.Its hard for these kids when they have all these offers & visits.Randy did an interview I think on canes.com or insidetheu.com & he made some really eye opening good points.He said that when commits get that offer from Miami there mind just twirls & they are pumped.He was also right when he said once these other schools find out that Miami sent them an offer or a look then other schools falls right in.I’m not saying this happens all the time.The other assistants on the team does their homework on recruits.Florida is the place where you want to recruit.When recruits get that offer they will then do an interview & the first thing they will say is that they have all these offers & never really talk about the Canes because other big schools come into play.They will then forget about Miami.I see it when they interview these kids & they will say I got my offer from Miami first then here comes the other schools.Some recruits get these offers for their five minutes of fame,some get it to see how many offers they can get so they can brag & not look at what they have & some take that offer because they truly & really want to play for Miami.Shannon said it best, if you really want to come to Miami you will stay committed & not have more than three schools on your list. I can understand recruits having more than four offers.When it get close to signing day you see alot of recruits switching there offer like its musical chairs.If you say that Miami is you school you will sit back until signing day.One other important thing to consider, most of these commits don’t want to compete for playing time. t’s like the NFL, they want to come in & start without showing anything.Yes I know they see them in High School, but when you come out to practice with the U it’s a whole different ball game to prove yourself against someone else.Remember these are high school kids & they have to make a name for themselves around schools & to their friends.Some are trying to impress those girls & some want to brag to their home boys & show them they are going to make it which can be a setback for them if they don’t watch it.

WHY ARE WE NOT FOCUSING ON O_LINE AND D_LINE? Champion lines O and D make mediocre QB'S and receivers champions NOT the other way around.

Just so everyone knows:

Stephen Morris is graduating Pace early and will be enrolled at the U in time for spring ball.

According to Rivals:

Miami (FL) Monsignor Pace High School QB Stephen Morris got the news an hour ago.

He will be arriving at Miami this month and participating in spring ball.

"All it was, it turns out, is my principal just had to accept the classes I took, the extra classes (to graduate early)," Morris said. "Now I just wait on Miami to admit me."

"Pace's administration understood it was a great opportunity for me to play, get some time in - they were understanding about the situation," Morris said. "I always thought there was a 60 percent, 70 percent chance it would happen. I'm real happy it did."


This is very good news for us. Hopefully he'll make the reps and study time he gets count.

This is article is deceptive. Miami greatest need is on the O-line and possibly D-line. They don't need RB's and WR. Often times in these top list they only list RB,WR,LB,QB. We have some very good recruits. Look down the list and see where the first OL is ranked and then see how we fared.

amazing all the negative posts on this blog. Recruiting is a crap shoot just like the NFL draft. Look at all the first rounds picks that have been busts and NFL teams have a lot more resources to analyze talent than UM. People need to come to realty that college football has become huge business and UM will never have the monetary resources of big state programs around the country. That immediately puts them at a disadvantage from hiring big name coaches to extra staff for recruiting. I still think the canes can compete for a NC but we will never see the dominance that this program had in the 80's and early 90's.

Overall, 2009 was a decent year for the canes. They are not a great team but they are MUCH better from the JV squad they had in 2007 and the young inexperienced team of 2008. I finally watched my DVR of the bowl game. The D was about the same as all season. They bend but don't break. They give up a lot of yards but only gave up 20 points to Wisconsin. It was the Offense that was very dissapointing. I hope Harris was hurt because he played aweful. He missed a ton of open receivers on long passes that could have easily changed the outcome of the game. JH NEEDS to be more consistant for the canes to be good and the O-Line must get better. I do give the program credit for scheduling both Ohio State and Pittsburg for next year. These are brutal non-conference games but should be fun to watch. I will always love the canes and wish them luck for 2010.

WHEN SHANNON START WINNING WITH THIS WEAK CLASS SOME OF YOU REPORTED. I WANT THE SAME PEOPLE TO POST SO I CAN SEE HOW FAKE U REALLY ARE.. DON'T BE WISHY WASHY WITH YOUR POST EITHER STICK TO YOUR GUNS.

HAD ENOUGH, BEARCANE, ADB, bOCA MAN, ROG ...just to name a few

Novacane is right.

There are three offensive linemen on that list and Miami has two of them. They are recruiting need right now and that's what they should do.

WOW,RICK THE TRUTH SPEAKER I WILL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD AND USE ALL CAPS(SORRY TO OTHER READERS), RICK OR "CHRIST" AS YOU POST ON OTHER FORUMS, WOW, YOU CONTINUE TO AMAZE ME, ARE YOU SERIOUS? SO MIAMI'S DEPTH CHART "SCARES" RECUITS BUT THE GAYTURDS DEPTH CHART, AND TEXAS, ALABAM'S ETC FOR THAT MATTER DOESNT? TRUTH IS EVERYONE HAS SEEN THAT RANDY IS A A BAD TO AVERAGE COACH AT BEST, AND HE "PLAYS FAVORITES", THAT IS WHY NO ONE WANTS TO COME RIGHT NOW, THEY SAW D BERRY, HE WAS CLEARLY THE BEST RUNNER ON THE TEAM, BUT WE KNOW SHANNON HAS HIS "BOYS", I CAN GO ON AND ON, IN CONCLUSION, RICK THE LIE SPEAKER, OR "CHRIST"(YOU BLASPHEMOUS $%^^*&) YOU ARE THE MOST BIASED POSTER EVER, EVEN A RACIST, YES BLACK PEOPLE CAN BE GUILTY OF RACISM, YOU ARE BLINDED BY THE FACT YOU AND SHANNON SHARE A SKIN COLOR AND CANNOT SEE PAST THAT, TO SEE WHAT THE REST OF US SEE, AND ON JAVARIE JOHNSON, LOL AGAIN, THAT GRADES WERE THE ISSUE, MARYLAND HAS STANDARDS EVERY BIT AS HIGH AS MIAMI, RANDY SHANNON ,SIMPLY PUT UP UNTIL NOW HAS PROVEN TO BE INCOMPETENT, WAS AS A DC TOO, WHY ARE CALAIS CAMPBELL,TAVARES GOODEN,KENNY PHILLIPS.....ETC (I EVEVN SAW ANTONIO DIXON PLAYING ON WILDCARD WEEKEND)BETTER PROS, THAN COLLEGE PLAYERS? HE CANT DEVELOP TALENT, WE KNEW THAT, HE CANT MANAGE A GAME, WE FOUND THAT OUT, HE CANT RECRUIT, IS BECOMING UNDENIABLE, P.S GET OFF MANN'YS BACK, THE SKY IS IF NOT FALLING, THEN AT LEAST LOOKING VERY DARK, AND TO ONE POSTER WHO CALLED HIM OUT ON DENT TO F$U, HE WAS A 3 STAR WHEN HE DECOMMITTED, SO MANNY GOT IT RIGHT!GE CHRISTIAN THOMAS TE, AND LETS CROSS OUR FINGERS, WE GET LUCKY, BOTH TO FINISH OFF RECRUITING AND DURING THE SEASON NEXT YEAR, WHAT A SAD PREDICAMENT!

Look at where the program is and where it is going. So what we lost a fat ass who is in love with Notre Dame but his teammate Glenn is better,another DT who is upset b/c we are still recruiting other DT, and a LB who could not qualify man please. Wake up people!If I wanted early playing time right away with little to no competition I would go to FSU and Florida right now b/c there is no one in front to be behind in the depth chart. In recruiting you are going to win some loose some. I remember last year around this time we lost out on a couple of good ballers but then Randy landed 2 of 3 of the seminole trio. Debose chose Florida b/c we was deep as hell at WR. These kids take notice to the small details like that. Joyner said on a ESPNU interveiw that he chose FSU b/c the coaches said he could come in and play right away not compete for a spot in the rotation. The last time I checked when you win a NC nobody is talking about what your recruiting classes were ranked.

I ment lose some.

Outcoached , out prepared, and now out recruited. Shannon does not deserve a new contract until he proves something next year.

Canes just picked up another DL sleeper commit. Anyone know who?

Like I said before, this is turning into a hit or miss class. Either Shannon is really uncovering some diamonds in the rough or Miami is getting the serious shaft. Only time will tell!

Yeah baby Beach High in the hoUse.

Welcome to the U family Mr. Delmar Taylor.

Along with The Russian Bear, some of you might know who I am talking about, that is 2 Tides to the Canes.

A huge Diamond in the rough. He will be great. Next Sapp.

Delmar Taylor from Miami Beach Sr. listed at 6'3 275.

I see miami got a verbal from a DT. Any info nation ? Thanks

I'm trying to stay positive about the Hurricanes, but our recruiting feels like the nail in the coffin in ways. My expectations for this year was for us to compete to the end of the season for the ACC title (did that), compete on the same level against our stacked schedule (exceeded expectations), win a bowl game (nope), and dominate S Fla recruiting (right now, far off). I'm not going to sit here and try to say I'm an expert at who the best HS players are across the nation. So I'm going to rely on the experts to see what they say. Bottom line, all you see is the Hurricanes losing on prospects. Joyner, Elam, Luc, Wilson, Chandler, the list goes on and on. For people saying stars and rankings don't matter, you're fooling yourself. So are you telling me that you wouldn't trade places with Florida in terms of their recruiting class right now? Of course you would. And what would you base that off of? Stars and rankings.

If we had beaten Wisc,...Would we all be freaking out? Look gents, we love our Canes but this is 2010 and we must see improvement on the field. I agree, yrs ago...Wisc game would've been 51 -10. But things have changed...showing up with the U on your helmet does not guarantee victory anymore...but it could. We need to see those sophomores and juniors ( Byrd, Johnson, Streeter, James, Berry, Harris, Spence, ABrown (please ) Ojomo, Vernon, Forston, etc )...show us something...never give up, accountability...remember the DBs doing push-ups on the field when they missed an int back in the day? I watched the RAVENS eat NE's lunch Sunday-- 1 reason = RAY LEWIS and his inspiring fire that spreads throughout the entire team. He was not a 5 or even 4 star, but he came to play every play, every day. That's what's missing...the fire...it is not far off...but it does need some stirring up. God Bless everyone on this blog.

Fans....Here's what you have to realize: The reason recruits are going to other schools is the fan base is not as supportive as those other schools. That simple. Miamai fans are fair weather and they don't support the program through the rough times and kids notice the difference between a Big 10 or SEC fan base and what the []_[] consistently generates. It has nothing to do with coaching or all the other things you all try to blame!!!!

Ok, Tennessee has just lost it's coach...Lets go get some Vol commits!!!! Lets Go Canes!! I hope my post does not get wiped out.

The answer to your question is YES, YES, YES!

And it will continue to be YES as long as Shanon and Shalalalala are at the U.

Coach JJ endorses Shannon. That's good enough for me.

Next year we need to win the ACC title. If we don't, i need to talk to coach JJ.

For all of you saying " 5- star recruits - that's how we got into this mess in the first place (Coker)" i'd like you too look up our final national ranking and bowl game final scores They seemed to be better than they are now

Canes Fans, let's sell out all of the upcoming season's games and it will help the recruiting out for the next few years... you know, like the sec and big 10 does for their teams!!!!!! Recruiting has a lot to do with the support of the fan base. Believe it or not.

Maybe these kids want to play for a coach with some fire in him. Shannon has no fire whatsoever, just look at him on the sidelines, same look all the time, arms always crossed. Guys like Saban, Brown, even Carroll get fired up during games. Fire from the coach trickles down to the players, and our players have no fire, just look at the bowl game.

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