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More football, just not the Miami Hurricanes. Will you be watching FSU-Georgia Tech? Al Golden: "I probably won't be.''

It's a big weekend for college football.

Unfortunately, a lot of us who would have been in Charlotte this weekend for the ACC Championship, will now sit at home Saturday and watch Georgia Tech (6-6 overall. 5-3 ACC) take on Florida State (10-2, 7-1). 

Probably not Al Golden.

Unless he changes his plans.

When The Hurricanes coach was asked If he would be watching the ACC title game, he replied, "I probably won't be. I hope I'm at a recruiting dinner trying to get someone that's going to help us get in that game -- again.''

You know it's driving Golden crazy that the Canes aren't in this game, which should have been UM vs. FSU in a rematch of state rivals. When the UM administration opted to self-impose its second consecutive bowl ban in hopes of softening expected NCAA penalties in the Nevin Shapiro case, that also included the ACC title game. 

"We've made a significant sacrifice here,'' Golden said. "It wasn't just one postseason game. It was three postseason games. It was a chance to play in a championship game and it also was a chance to play our arch-rival and have a chance to go to a BCS game. So, we're giving up significantly."

Especially frustrating that Georgia Tech is the team that got the nod for the title game over the Hurricanes, who beat Tech in Atlanta in overtime this season (remember Mike James' incredible performance that game?)

Anyway, in case you didn't hear already, the NCAA has granted Georgia Tech permission to play in a bowl game should the Yellow Jackets lose to FSU and have a 6-7 record. In doing so, that could prevent a team such as 10-2 San Jose State from playing in a bowl, or 6-6 Central Michigan.

Doesn't seem to make sense. 

WAY TO GO SHAYON

Wanted to give a shout out to defensive end Shayon Green, who won the 2012 Brian Piccolo Award along with FSU running back Chris Thompson.

The Piccolo Award, given annually since 1972 in memory of the late Brian Piccolo, goes to the "most courageous" football player in the ACC. Piccolo, who played for Wake Forest (and the Chicago Bears) and was the 1965 ACC Athlete of the Year, moved to South Florida when he was 12 and graduated from the former Central Catholic High -- now Fort Lauderdale St. Thomas Aquinas -- in 1961. He was stricken with an aggressive form of cancer and died at age 26. (aside: any of you remember, or ever seen, the movie that immortalized Piccolo -- Brian's Song? A remake of it was made in 2001. The original was aired in 1971.)

Shayon, according to the news release of the award, "had to overcome four different major injuries:'' two ACL tears in his right knee, one meniscus tear in his right knee and also suffered a dislocated wrist that forced him to miss "all, or a major part of the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.''

"Shayon is an amazing individual with an unparalleled work ethic,'' Golden said. "I cannot think of anyone who exemplifies the ideals of Brian Piccolo or is more deserving of this award than him. He has overcome a dislocated wrist and three separate knee surgeries to become our leading tackler and team captain. His commitment and perseverance is an inspiration to us all.''

Frank Gore (2004) and Glenn Sharpe (2006) are the other two Canes who previously won this award.

I did a feature about Shayon early this season. He's a tough player, whom I recall many a day walking to or from practice limping. But he ended up leading the Hurricanes in tackles with 67 in 12 games -- three more than LB Denzel Perryman (nine games); six more than LB Gionni Paul (nine games); and eight more than LB Eddie Johnson (10 games).

Shayon will be back next year.

HERE'S THE BEGINNING OF THE STORY I WROTE ABOUT SHAYON EARLY THIS SEASON:

 When Shayon Green learned that fifth-year senior linebacker Ramon Buchanan sustained a second major knee injury Saturday on the same knee Buchanan tore last October, tears welled in Green’s eyes.

“That was very upsetting,’’ Green said this week, taking a few moments to compose himself. “He’s in my prayers.’’

Green’s empathy is palpable. The 6-3, 260-pound Miami defensive end tore the anterior cruciate ligament of his right knee as a freshman during 2009 fall camp. He tore the same ACL again during spring practice of 2011.

“But I never quit,’’ he said.

This medical marvel, an inspiration to teammates and coaches alike, resumed his playing career six months after his second reconstructive surgery. Today, the redshirt junior leads the Hurricanes (1-1) in tackles with 15 – highlighted by his tackle-for-loss on an attempted trick play from the 1-yard line at Kansas State in the second quarter.

KSU missed an attempted field goal on the next play.

“He’s as tough as they come,’’ defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio said of Green, who plays strong-side, rush end and nose tackle on third downs. “He has come back from multiple injuries, yet he throws it around every day. Here’s an example of someone who doesn’t make excuses, a guy playing three positions and owning the game plan.’’

Green, 21, grew up in Tifton, Ga., where he was rated the No. 65 weakside defensive end by rivals.com. He said his mother, a nurse; and father, who owns a small construction company, helped keep his spirits up through both ACL tears.

“Proud is not the word,’’ said Larry Green, who had just hung up with Shayon a day after the demoralizing 52-13 loss at Kansas State. “He’s very respectful, well mannered, smart – and I love him to death. He was a little upset because he’s a leader on the defensive line and they played poorly. I told him, ‘Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get ready for Bethune-Cookman. You’ve got to rally your troops.’’’

TICKETS ON SALE FOR UM FOOTBALL BANQUET

Tickets are on sale for the UM Football Banquet, which will be held Dec. 9 at Jungle Island in the Treetop Ballroom -- 1111 Parrot Jungle Trail, Miami, 33132.

Tickets are $60 per person, which includes buffet lunch.

Check-in and reception begin at noon, with luncheon and awards program at 1 p.m. 

Fans can purchase tickets online or by calling the Hurricane Club at 305-284-6699.

HURRICANES TO HOST WOUNDED WARRIORS

 The UM baseball team will host the Wounded Warriors Amputee Softball Team for a 7 p.m. exhibition on Saturday, Dec. 8 at Alex Rodriguez Park at Mark Light Field.

  The Wounded Warriors are young veterans and active duty soldiers who have lost limbs while serving their country in the military since 9-11. 

  Pregame festivities will begin at 6:30 p.m. All proceeds from the game ($10 general admission tickets a the gate) go to the Wounded Warriors.

  These guys are awesome -- and they're incredibly fit. I've covered the Wounded Warriors who run in the ING MIami Marathon. It's a fantastic organization. I'm guessing that this event will be inspiring, and worth attending.

IN CLOSING...

  Another shout out, this one to the men's and women's hoops teams, who had back-to-back great victories against highly ranked teams -- the men against No. 13 Michigan State and the women, last night against No. 6 Penn State.

  Michelle Kaufman covers UM hoops for The MIami Herald, and wrote two compelling stories on the games.

  While she was at the men's game two nights ago, by the way, she caught up to UM interim AD Blake James to ask him about the speculation of Al Golden speaking to Tennessee (or other teams) about head coaching vacancies.

  She relayed this quote to me, from James: 

"I spoke to Al the last two days regarding all the rumors and he assured me that he'll be with us next year and isn't going anywhere."

 I believe it.

 I am on furlough next week (mandatory and predetermined), so will be back after that.

Everyone have a healthy and happy week ahead.

SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN

 

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Canetrash,

I am not stuck on coaches of yesteryear, but was responding a "what if" post about some of UM's leaders. This fantasy can be a lot more fun than our current situation at times, you know?

Nonetheless, as with most of the football-wise posters here, I try to evaluate your comments for their insight as to the Canes and the game in general.

You make some good points very often. But, you are clearly unhappy with UM on a consistent basis. So, not sure what that is, but do appreciate when you nail issues regarding football, the UM program, coaching, schemes, etc.

Regarding a DVD of yesteryear, I'll take it, man, cause I love to receive gifts.

But, to confess, I have an old Orange Bowl tape of the Canes beating Oklahoma, when Jerome Brown was with us and the Sooners had the Boz. If I get too down, I may just go into fantasyland with that tape.

Or, from this season, I have our 2 OT wins and that, along with my WSU Cougars beating the UW Huskies, picks me up, man!

UM will get stronger. The limiting factor may be coaching, but we will see.

Calvin, agree with your comments on the 'Bama defense.
The size differential between their and our LBs is strilking. I think Eddie Johnson will be that style of LB for us.

So, always enjoy the posting here. The battles, the rivalries and the great football insight.

Might be time to go watch my UM - Oklahoma tape where, at the coin toss, Jerome Brown says " Let's go Miami baby!"

Ah, sweet memories...

Hey 5.3.2 you some big Moron.
FSU is in the BCS, in the Orange Bowl, ACC champs
Now that is something to brag about.
UM has never been in the BCS, never won ACC ship, haven't gone bowling in 3 years and hasen't won a bowl in who knows how long, and has lost to FSU the past 3 years. Now that is nothing to brag about.
Is that your measure of success?
Are you capable of thinking before posting or is your head filled with crap all the time?

"The canes are rebuilding FSU isnt. At least not according to ESPN."

Are you for real? A real Moron.
You quoting ESPN, when all you doUches claim ESPN is conspiring against you. Make up your mind fool.
How is Golden Balls rebuilding when he cant recruit.

To rebuild you gotta get the top recruits. They aint going to UM. FSU cleans up the best recruits in State. So does UF, and Bama and many others before you.
Check out your ESPN canes aint listed as top recruiting classes. FSU is.

If you look at all the facts you are the loser.
Just check your record for the past decade, check your bowl record lately. It aint pretty.
All dUmb, delUsional and in denial is no way to go through life clUcks!

BTW dUmmy, FSU will play Northern Illinois in the OB.
A MAC team makes the BCS before the canes do.
Louisville is playing UF in the Sugar. Teddy your one time savior to be makes the BCS before the lowly canes do.
Is that something to brag about?
It just keeps getting better.
Rebuilding? From 6 -6 to 7 - 5, what a remarkable improvement. Pathetic. Next year back to 6 - 6 and no bowls.
DUmb, delUsional, in denial and stoopid loosers.

What a crappy bowl for fsu. Fsu will be no better than us going into next year. The bcs selection committite obviously doesn't care about tv ratings for that game. I wish the NCAA would come on already.

A crappy opponent, not a crappy bowl. The OB is one of the big BCS games. Next year can we be better than FSU? Only if we find a defense. Maybe Jimbo bolts to the SEC and FSU loses a few recruits. They will certainly be worse off offensively and the loss of Stoops hurts too.
But we still need to improve our D and get the NCAA cloud off our heads.


Ok Goldie crying about playing kst, und, fsu..

Even if you throw out those 3 team you and your BFF defense still gives up 490 ypg and 29 ppg...

Even Bethune Cookman put up 200 yds rush...

Keep up w/the excuses but please stop pee'n on my leg and telling me it's raining..

Posted by: Nash | December 02, 2012 at 10:18 PM
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lol, nash, every time i here coach goldie say "i'd challenge anybody, when you look at oach OH-NO's track record, as far as player development" if i was a reporter, as soon as he said that i'd be like:

" Coach, can you please explain to us, what is it about the track record you're referring to so the rest of us can have the same type confidence you have in oach OH-NO, because alot of people are having a hard time believing middle Tennessee st. has better athletes or a better defense than we're accustomed to at UM".

Don't know why Golden is still on scholarship. His 2 years have been mediocre and I don't see much improvement from last year. If anything the D got worse. We still lose to every top 25 team we play and on top of that we still lose to a few teams we should beat. Same as lat year. If there is not a marked improvement next season then for sure he is not the guy. We bring back most of the same team with valuable experience, the "we are young" excuse will not be tolerated next year.

to cane trash u m is rebuilding they went from 6-6 to 7-5 i mean 1 more victory is 1 more victory but youre right fsu gators they pick up all the top talent & what do they do with it nothing.fsu has had a top 10 recruiting class for the past 20 yrs & nothing they were preseason ranked #4 & what did they accomplish nothing you can keep youre orange bowl & your gator bowl trophies we want that crystal ball & yes we've been down & out for the past 10yrs & they still cant catch us fsu or the gators 5 baby all day

a cane trash isn't the word your using is spelled stupid not stoopid & your calling someone dumb ha ha ha f***ing retarded trailer trash

CaneKiller, you are a very sad person, I hope your life turns around some day.

Here is what's going to be a problem, we're recruiting guys to play tight-end who are already running a 4.7 in highschool with the exception of travis johnson. Those other 2 guys(standish & jeremy) are already slow guys, i would be looking at them as defensive ends or some other position. it's better to recruit that position like we're use to doing it, moving the bigger highschool wideouts to that position and moving those highschool tight-ends to the d-line, which did 2 things, continued to keep the speed and athleticism up.

Right now, we're recruiting traditionally and the way they do it in the big 10, which is why the big 10 has a poor track record against other conferences. Who cares about being a physical team if you're not winning nothing.

That's why i laugh at people when they say you'll never see that type of dominant football again like we had at UM, in the meantime, Bama's going to their 3rd national title game in about 4 years. I'd rather Georgia win the national title than any of these 2 schools.

Year 3, brian kelly in the national championship game, year 5, saban going to national championship #3, next year will be year 3 for goldie, where will we be. The question since the 80's when facing UM has always been, can a team score enuff points on us to win but if we had an offense, there was no way you could beat us, Now all of a sudden the only question teams have when facing us is, can they out-score our offense.

Here is what's going to be a problem, we're recruiting guys to play tight-end who are already running a 4.7 in highschool with the exception of travis johnson. Those other 2 guys(standish & jeremy) are already slow guys, i would be looking at them as defensive ends or some other position. it's better to recruit that position like we're use to doing it, moving the bigger highschool wideouts to that position and moving those highschool tight-ends to the d-line, which did 2 things, continued to keep the speed and athleticism up.

Right now, we're recruiting traditionally and the way they do it in the big 10, which is why the big 10 has a poor track record against other conferences. Who cares about being a physical team if you're not winning nothing.

That's why i laugh at people when they say you'll never see that type of dominant football again like we had at UM, in the meantime, Bama's going to their 3rd national title game in about 4 years. I'd rather Georgia win the national title than any of these 2 schools.

Year 3, brian kelly in the national championship game, year 5, saban going to national championship #3, next year will be year 3 for goldie, where will we be. The question since the 80's when facing UM has always been, can a team score enuff points on us to win but if we had an offense, there was no way you could beat us, Now all of a sudden the only question teams have when facing us is, can they out-score our offense.

Now i will say that, unlike those other coaches, none of them have had this cloud hanging over their programs, but even still, that's all the more reason to be an aggressive defensive team. The funny thing is, we got an attacking offense and a sit back defense, who's idea was that, read and re-act for what. Attack teams on defense like we've always done and just like the philosophy is on offense to as well. We got enuff talent to be able to ball out on defense, come next year, we're not going to want to hear the excuse of a player or 2 being suspened and this and that.

Time to see some real progress, otherwise, what we doing!

Posted by: getbusy

Boy not only are you stoopid you are also a looser
I have to use spelling cane Morons can understand.
So get off your spelling police you are the retard.

Posted by: killercane

You are so dUmb I dont know where to begin
First, get your own name doUche bag
Next, if you measure success only by winning the NC then you are a miserable scUMbag and will remain so for years
Going 7-5 after a 6-6 season is hardly rebuilding you dUmmy. Look at the post by Just Sayin, he got it right
FSU will keep the OB and the ACC title and the fact they kick your arse every year and take your young ones from your backyard. All thing you want but cant get. They already got.
Its not fsu gators you dUmbass. But both FSU and the Gators steal all your local kids and leave you scraps.
You know how stoopid you sound talking about 2 programs that kick your sorry butt on the field and on the recruiting trail?
See what the Gators did this season compared to last year, that is rebuilding.

Posted by: God bless this mess

Thanks for the sentiment. I am not sad, I am amazed at the stoopidity of most of the bloggers here.
You wish you were where FSU and UF are now. Very simple. If you disagree with that means you are a Moron

The problem with alot of these coaches on this squad is, they have to get real familiar with the City of Miami period. They can't think they're going to keep being able to recruit away from the heart of the City. Everybody in Miami that can play football not coming from the type of homes that coach goldie and these guys he brought are expecting.

If you're scared to bring yo azzzz into Liberty City or Overtown, you don't need to be coaching at UM period. goldie keeps trying to use that peer pressure crap on some of the players, that's not going to work, so quit the crying and start coaching. The guys on the team that keep putting it in the air, has nothing to do with why we're losing and giving up yards at a premium. goldie keeps crying about a handful of guys but keeps trying to back his boy who's the guide of an atrocious defense, can't hide the facts.

The reason i bring this up, i keep hearing coach goldie say about certain players like malcom lewis, he'll use this term that "he comes from a good family", i myself am happy to hear that, but all i'm saying is, the guys who don't "come from a good family" are they to be left without schalorships too, than when you get guys on the team who are going to speak out, that's why i luv reading that article about the Baltimore ravens, when the headcoach tried to make them practice in pads, ed reed was one of the first ones going off, than the article went on to talk about how it basically turned into a mutiny, but how coach harbaugh wasn't insecure or sensitive and let guys bytchhh and than they practiced in shorts, after the practice, ed reed said "the way we practiced today, we migth as well have practiced in pads"

But this is the session that turned their season around. THe ame thing needs to happen at UM right now, the whole team needs to stick together on the defensive side of the ball and let the coaches know "this shaaat not working". Why are we not challenging wide receivers off the line, why do we run primarily zone coverages, who's scared to man up on defense they don't belong here if that's the case.

The problem i have with this defensive scheme is, coach goldie and his boy's idea of a top notch db is chase minnifield, and when you go an turn on the tape of him playing in the same system our guys are playing in, he's not impressive. I will say this, p.w. has a good track record of developing safeties, but unfortunately not db's. Same with goldie and the same with his boy, now that they're in the most fertile land for reecruiting, no excuses, you're not at temple anymore.

We'll see real soon how all that deserve vicotry road map book turns out, and is turning out. Where are all the Canes access video's these days, they seem to have dropped off this year!

CanKiller -

Who have the Gators recruited recently from Broward or Miami Dade? Last year they had one player (Bryon Cox Jr.) from Broward and zero from Dade. This year they have no players (thus far) from Broward or Dade.

I will grant you that UF is recruiting better than Miami and has been for some time. However, they are not stealing players from Miami's backyard.

Posted by: SunnyDee

You are technically correct, so I got a little carried away, what do you want, a medal?
The point remains the same however the Gators have taken several players from St Thomas Aquinas over the last few years. Now FSU does steal from your backyard directly. But like you said, both UF and FSU have been recruiting much better than UM for some time.
That is the point when some doUche here starts talking down what FSU is doing when both big State schools are doing so much better than the canes.
They take the top recruits all you have left is make belief and wet dreams. Shows in your record.

cane puke ( I mean killer)- yeah whatver I made a mistake. FSU plays a loser bowl against NIU. YAWN.

YAWN #2- UF vs Louisville. Some matchup.

If the U isnt playing in the ship, I am glad theyre not playing

Heres a matchup worth watching: USC vs GTech.

You siemen holes thought it was going to be a blow out right? Your floppy sphincters got a little tighter when GT got the ball back and made that first down eh?

Canekiller

Cane trash

gatorsam

All kissin cousins All kni whose daddies are their grandaddies too.

Piece a s--7t that you all are,

NIU...that is a horrible game. I actually feel bad fot FSU.

Great article!!!! Keep up the great work!!!

to the so called cane killer your the one thats dumb you still can't spell stupid but your still trying to call someone dumb i feel for you i hope you don't have kids you can't teach them anything & talk about delusional you love the U that's why your always on here jump on the bandwagon baby before it leaves like it did before cause #6 is the horizon punk i betcha the U will win #6 before uf or fsu win one bet big$$$ on that punk

It's simple.

5>3>2

I am loyal to the facts and the stats...I cold care less about golden love letters, ties or qimmick cane walks.....when the stats show otherwise then I'll come aboard....that goes for any other future UM coach
as for tier 1 florida recruits:
#2 - florida
#4 - FSU
#6 - florida
#13 - florida
#14 - florida
#17 - UM
#18 - florida
#22 - florida
#28 - UM
#26 - florida
#27 - florida
#30 - florida
#31 - florida
#33 - florida
#43 -UM keith bryant but he will de-committ (moms insist he goes to fsu - her alma mater)
#45 - florida
#49 florida
#50 UM

golden cant compete....local kids will leave area as well since parents want their kids to experiance college OUTSIDE of dade county.....plus golden is not jimmy or schnell who was able to walk into liberty city and sit in those living rooms - dont kid yourself, golden is aloof type....his recruiting team will be there not him

its all in the stats.....every year SI. ESPN all have top 25....after second week you cant recognize the standings....golden has a long way to prove he can be successful here...I say he wont, especially with dnofrio.....he can try to water down the sched...but that will hurt him as well...in the end you have to win against good teams...not try to slide your way in

Here are some facts. gallo and other dweebs:

UM has 5 NCS. More than any program in the last 32 years

UM has same number of NCs as UF, FSU, USF, FAU, FIU, UCF, UNF, JU, all combined.

UM has more former players in the NFL than any program- tied with USC.

UM is a top 50 academic university

UM TV ratins are among the highest in cfb, even higher than so-called BCS progrmas/ THis is despite of you all's whining about bad facilities, bad recruiting, etc etc.

Why is that? Because this is the U.

You wouldn't understand. Therefore, don't come on here with all your negative half truths

I don't know that I've ever seen someone put so much time and effort into talking completely out his ass as "Jim Gallo".

Al Golden's not going to go on recruiting trips? He'll send a team?

Posted by: 1981-2011 UM 5

And Nevin Shapiro f*cked it up

There is a question in my mind as to whether the Canes can seriously compete for the 5 star prospect. We landed Tracy Howard last year, and he will be a great player in time. However, the UF and FSU, not to mention 'Bama, etc, seem to have the jump on us for these athletes. Part of it is recent record, conference, fan base, spirit, stadium, etc., and part of it is the UM's ongoing NCAA prolems and record over the last 10 years.

As I have said before, Golden et al are building a Penn State South kind of team, where 3 and 4 stars are attractive from a character and team building standpoint. Such teams will be solid, but I doubt that we will reach the big-time without the best players in our area coming to the U.

We can all revel in the past, but the trend since 2002 has not been inspiring, and it will take dramatic success to bring UM back to prominence. I hope we get there with the current regime, and that they pursue 5 star players to increase our probability of being an elite team...

Success breeds success, so it is an uphill climb for my Canes to be a top program once again...

What some of yall fail to realize, jim gallo is not saying something that's out the ordinary, alot of people on this blog that live in Miami have never been to parts of Liberty City and O.T. your dam selves so best believe when a guy coming from where coach goldie is from, no different than what schnelly went thru, for those who watched the 30 for 30, if you heard the part about where guys would escort schnelly into certain parts of Miami to let the fella's know he was straight, alot of yall really don't understand that.

Probably your first time hearing that, but best believe dennis erickson had to get comfortable with it too, he was in no rush, just something new to him, but we respect dennis because like he always says "i think i learned more from them than they ever learned from me".

When coaches come here, it's an adjustment and their life is definitely on the line in certain neighborhoods. It's alot of people that'll rob or beat the shaaatt outta them dudes in certain neighborhoods, alot of people don't even know them. This is one of the main reasons goldie likes to offer kids at camps and why camps are a big deal for coach goldie. People have to deal with things the best way they know how, it's an adjustment for goldie just like all the other coaches.

jim gallo knows what he's talking about, all i see from a few are people acting like 2 year olds and calling that man names but don't have any real facts to go against what that man keeps saying. If you don't like what he's saying, why read his post. Most of yall, if you not criticizing or name calling on jim gallo wouldn't have no post. Either come with legit info to rebuff what gallo is saying or go home, other than that, it's ghey to just keep coming on sac ridin that man when what he's been saying (alex collins decommitt was coming, he's said keith bryant is next) if none of that was True, i can see yall blasting that man.


Jim Gallo just said that Al Golden will not go to recruits homes.

That he will send a team and not go himself.

He also said the bowl ban was completely Al Golden's decision.

He also said that Randy Shannon was a good head coach and shouldn't have been fired.

So yea. Jim Gallo is loud and wrong.

1. golden does not go into liberty city or overtown like jimmy did or schnell and sit in those apts and talk not only to the recruit but the parents as well that UM was a place to grow athletically and acedemically....golden has new wrinkle that to get a scholarship you have to attend his camps....thats a cane first

2. the bowl ban was his final decision...the statement for Um was that "shalala and legal team was a PART of the decision"...it was not exclusively their final word....also the weak excuse that golden gave being he would be subject to litigation is a complete BS statement....the only one that couls bring a complaint against golden would be UM which by their own admission was part of the decision...BS lie statement

3. 2010 randy shannon stats much better than 2011/2012 golden stats....not including the benefit that randy never had a mutiny during his tenue

4. never said randy shouldnt have been fired....but to make a lateral move via the coach was stupid and we wouldnt have had all the drama that golden has brought to UM

dbc, it's not the 5 star recruits, that's not what UM was built on. Also, keep in mind, all we use to do is keep the majority of the best talent home from around Miami, and South Florida and than certain parts of Florida up-north. Than all of a sudden these bozo recruiting sites come along and want to start rating people as if they have an exact science when all they do is pull up city newspapers and track guys and than rate them.

Never seen them play live most of the time. Than they only want to rate players than come and say "so & so had the #1 recruiting class this year" how in-TF would they know before these players haven't even played a down in college yet. They only want to use that as a barometer to say, "such and such school should win the national championship because they had the #1 recruiting class in such and such year", it's all stupidty.

What was ed reed or SEAN TAYLOR rated when they came out of highschool, or santana moss. vilma, mcgahee and on and on. butch davis knows talent, just like when he went to unc, his classes wasn't rated that high by these bozo sites, but had unc not had all those players get suspended that one year, unc would've probably had won that national championship that year, they were ready.

With that being said, i could careless about ratings, cause when you're at Miami, there are enuff players around here that can play with anybody anywhere, the question is, will goldie be able to find them and more importantly, what kind of players does he plan on brining in, if he thinks everybody is going to be choir boys, he can hang it up. I don't like it myself how he keeps addressing certain situations in the media. When a player gets suspended, we don't need to hear these long justification explanations. Just say, "that's in house".

Who cares if a young player is not doing what you expect him to do, everybody makes decisions in life, and when i heard goldie say "when a young man is not doing what he's suppose to do and gets suspended, now he's in grown man territory" meaning, they're relying on eddie johnson that much that by him not being in the game, somebody job is going to be on the line, lol, man, nobody's thinking bout that but some mofo's who're barely hanging ontotheir jobs right now.

That's like someone owning a gym but expect the gym members to come in their and help keep the electricity bill & water bill down, them people not thinking bout that. If you're a good coach, you're not trying to put that type of worry on the players, that'll make players say F u and the weak links job you're trying to save. Next man in category.

That was my main apprehension about goldie and his crew coming in, they're ideology of what a dominant team should look like is not in line with what we know, so a penn st. south is going to look like trash, in fact they haven't won a national championship since so called color blind handed it to them. goldie and his boy's mentors are what doesn't give me the confidence that they know how to actually form a championship claiber team. They believe in the al groh way of doing things, they believe in the penn disgrace way of doing things, which all points to not being dominant or champions.

With the worst defense in college football, how long is it actually going to take us to be a top 25 to top 30 defense, how long can we actually wait for that at UM, sanctions or know sanctions.

shannon 2010 - last year
total offense - 5070 yards / 44 TD
total defense - 3876 / 37 sacks

golden 2011
total offense - 4533 / 41 TD
total defense - 4319 / 23 sacks
golden 2012

total offense - 5282 / 45 TD
total defense - 5837 / 13 sacks

team is getting worse....plus never had mutiny, parents calling radio stations, masss exits of players from team, always had players on 1st team acc..plus shannon would have NEVER screwed the players he reruited by not playing rival again and going to OB
why did we get rid of shannon again?...oh forgot, to give him ability to be part of a defense that was ranked 2nd in scoring defense, 2nd in passing defense, 2nd in interceptions and 9th in rushing defense.....
funny thing about statistics......

plus I am not sure that who we have on defense is really that good...case and point

how does tcu which has equal amount of freshman/soph on thier defense end up year end #16.....UM ends up #116

they were at 3600 years vs Um at almost 6000 yards...how does that happen?...dont forget the win in austin over #16 ranked texas....can we beat a #16 team?..who knows

keep reading the golden love letters....

You're wrong Jim Gallo, the decision was 100% the university and 0% Al Golden.

Al Golden said he didn't know what was going on and wasn't a part of the conversations.

The university said Al Golden wasn't a part of those conversations.

And OF COURSE Al Golden is going to recruits houses, EVERY head coach in the country goes to recruits' houses.

You're just loud and flat out wrong.

Some things are opinions, some are unquestionable facts.

Al Golden going to recruits houses and Al Golden having NO SAY in the bowl ban are facts.

You just live in some weird alternate reality.


Jim Gallo just said that Al Golden will not go to recruits homes.

That he will send a team and not go himself.

He also said the bowl ban was completely Al Golden's decision.

He also said that Randy Shannon was a good head coach and shouldn't have been fired.

So yea. Jim Gallo is loud and wrong.

Posted by: Seriously? | December 04, 2012 at 12:48 PM

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Look, if yall think for one second that coach goldie didn't have any input on whether or not we should go to a bowl game or not, ask yourself this, if you were al golden and they told you, look, we can go to a bowl game or we can self impose and that should be enuff games to help us get past whatever punishment is coming, which one would you do. goldie going along with the bowl ban is right in line with what goldie has been saying all along when he says "we're not respeonsible, but we're responsible enuff to get this fixed", well that bowl ban decision was part of it.

As far as randy shannon goes, people like to be idiotic when it comes to him and pretend like they don't see the facts. For a 1st time headcoach, shannon took over a program that was in the worst shape in UM history since howard schnelly took over and that is a fact. shannon had to basically build a brand knew staff
and stayed loyal to guys who were here for a while and quite naturally so. Basically no real draftable players left to that man, to remind people, only 1 player got drafted in shannon's 2nd year in spendcer adkins(a non-starter).

shannon is the one who upgraded all the talent around here again, got the talent level back up, and actually brought back the winning expectations from the fan base again, the problem is, people have amnesia and forget, before shannon took over, nobody have faith that we could win games after we got down. shannon took over a team that had kyle & kirby, shannon left goldie with j70 & smo, shannon was left with javariss james, andrew johnson & derron thomas, he left goldie with "Truth" miller, mike james & haggens. I can go on.

All the o-line starters, shannon's boyz, when people try and lump shannon in the failed category, his only failure was not hiring the right oc, and than the administration a.k.a. kirby lo-cutt with nevin shaps influence went out and got mark nipple and they helped to sabatoge shannon's 2010 season. shannon didn't hire nipple and make him assistant headcoach,that was the weasel lo-cutt and his doings along with troll shalala.

Than when we go by records, what's the difference betwen shannon's record and goldie's record. People want to act like goldie walked into a depleted team, lol, that's a joke. goldie and his crew failed to influence all those players who left early to stay here because of the system they're trying to implement now which instantly when against the words that they spoke when they said "think players not plays" if that was true, almost all of the players that left early would have come back and played.

brandon harris jetted because he had to, would been in to much zone and his draft stock would have dropped, olivier vernon had to jet after 6 games, he didn't come here to cover runningbacks flaring out the backfield. brandon washington being bounced around, forston did the right thing if he was going to be playing with this new d-line technique as well. So people need to stop sac ridin goldie like he's head and heels better than shannon.

It's also a lie when people say this year was the 1st year we've been in position to win the coastal division, this team under shannon had total control over that same situation and just like goldie did this year, they lost the game that mattered, the only difference between than and now, unc wasnt on bowl probation so people want to act like goldie actually got UM to the acc championship game when the fact is, he backed in just like Georgia tech backed in this year.

Go and check the facts about goldie and what homes he's been going to. you'll find your answers.

### Before UM put itself in good position to win the Coastal Division title, most everyone around the program was comfortable with the idea of self-imposing another bowl ban. But there is now sentiment among several high-level UM people, under president Donna Shalala, to eschew another bowl ban and play in the Atlantic Coast Conference title game if UM makes it, according to three of them, and Shalala must decide whether she agrees with them.

All three said playing in the ACC championship - if Miami qualifies - makes the most sense, but cautioned it's Shalala's call and there are variables that could change that: if UM receives its notice of allegations from the NCAA this month, and the findings are very damaging; or if key outside attorney Mike Glazier is given information this month that makes him believe a bowl ban would greatly help ease the punishment.

Shalala, asked a week ago in a Board of Trustees meeting about the likelihood of a self-imposed ban, told the trustees she’s waiting for guidance from the attorneys. The ACC says if UM plays in the title game, it cannot self-impose a bowl ban after that.

UM could clinch the Coastal title as early as Nov. 17 if Miami wins at Virginia next Saturday and Duke loses at Georgia Tech on Nov. 17. Miami plays at Duke on Nov. 24.

“Self-imposition goes a long way with the NCAA,” said one high-level UM official. “But if we make the ACC championship, it's best for us to play. The ACC would want us to play, and we have to consider their wishes. It’s best for the league. It’s the right thing to do.


plus I am not sure that who we have on defense is really that good...case and point

how does tcu which has equal amount of freshman/soph on thier defense end up year end #16.....UM ends up #116

they were at 3600 years vs Um at almost 6000 yards...how does that happen?...dont forget the win in austin over #16 ranked texas....can we beat a #16 team?..who knows

keep reading the golden love letters....

Posted by: Jim Gallo | December 04, 2012 at 01:20 PM
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We do know who is coaching the linebackers their right now though, that's for sure, might have a lil bit to do with it. He could take these same players right now and have our defense playing like it was at least a top 20 defense right now with the same players, has nothing to do with youth, funny how that excuse only comes up when we lose.

On self-imposing a bowl ban...
"I’m not in that loop. I have complete confidence in our president, our legal counsel and our Athletic Director Blake James. The way I look at it is this - we have the best president in the country. A president that oversaw a 600 million dollar budget when she was in the cabinet. She was in rooms where they made decisions as to whether they are going to overthrow heads of state, whether we were going to commit troops. I think she can handle this one. I have complete confidence she can handle this one. I’m just happy for the guys. I’m happy for the win today. I’m happy to have the opportunity to go to Durham next week and play for the Coastal."

On his role in the bowl decision-making...
"I’m not part of it, and most of that is to protect me from the legal side of it, to be quite honest. I’m not privy to what the president is privy to. I don’t know what the president knows, or our legal counsel, or what Blake James knows, and I’m not a part of that. I’m sure there will be some discussions tonight and tomorrow and we’ll go from there."

" I admit I was a bit surprised -- and disappointed -- when Al Golden didn't relay a decision about what the Miami administration will do regarding the Hurricanes' post-season future.

Golden said he wants to keep playing, but that it's what any coach would want, and he wasn't taking into account any future implications. Whatever UM president Donna Shalala decides, Golden said he will support."

those statements were cover for him....when he says he is legally liable for a decision to self ban...then you know it is all BS....the offical statement from UM did not say golden was no part of the decision....it was clear that shalala and legal advise was a contributing factor....it was not exclusively theirs or they would have said it....she was very careful to sheild herself from the optics as well.....they made it conveluted purposely....

Randy Shannon.

Sorry, the hate for Al Golden I can understand but if Jim Gallo and Calvin actually are different people, they both lose all credibility with me by thinking Randy Shannon was a good head coach and by refusing to accept reality.

There is no f*cking conspiracy, Al Golden had no say in the bowl ban, that's just how college athletics work.

"The unprecedented decision to voluntarily withhold the football team from a second consecutive postseason was made by University leadership, including President Shalala, the Office of the General Counsel and Department of Athletics leaders"

athletic leaders = golden....if he insisted to fo go forward...shalala would have gone along....he did it because basically he wanted to end his "TMZ" year and start fresh....class of 2012 paid for it

"I’m not part of it, and most of that is to protect me from the legal side of it, to be quite honest. I’m not privy to what the president is privy to. I don’t know what the president knows, or our legal counsel, or what Blake James knows, and I’m not a part of that. I’m sure there will be some discussions tonight and tomorrow and we’ll go from there."

please tell me what is the legal side that needs to be protected if golden made the decision?

Listen kid, you're grasping at straws and you're just flat out wrong.

Al Golden said he wasn't involved at all in the talks and was disappointed in his interview the day after the decision.

The decision was very obviously made by the compliance team, the AD, and Shalala and it was very obviously made because UM is getting two for the price of one and will hopefully only have to 'serve' one more year on the four year ban they're getting.

Like I say, the hate for Golden could justified by the results on the field but you're obviously just a Randy Shannon lover and you aren't close to a reality-based understanding of college football.

shalala said he was......

"The unprecedented decision to voluntarily withhold the football team from a second consecutive postseason was made by University leadership, including President Shalala, the Office of the General Counsel and Department of Athletics leaders"

golden is the athletic leader of the football department....somebody is lying....hummmmmm

No. He isn't.

The Athletic Director is the leader of the Department of Athletics.

Here are some facts. And an unbiased analysis of each:

"UM has 5 NCS. More than any program in the last 32 years"

Will not bother to fact check the bit about the last 32 years, BUT yeah UM has 5 NCs, now when was the last one? Over a decade ago.
Can you say living in the past?

"UM has same number of NCs as UF, FSU, USF, FAU, FIU, UCF, UNF, JU, all combined."

Same tired argument. Same clingling to the distant past. Only one school in that list has 2 recent NCs and is close to another. It aint UM.

"UM has more former players in the NFL than any program- tied with USC."

Great, good for you dUmmy. In the past decade how many ACC ships have those players helped you win? How many bowl victories have they brought you? How many NCs have they won for you in the last 10 years?
Again, living in the past.
Worse still, get your kicks from the NFL cause your college team sUcks. Are you rooting for fantasy football or your college team.

"UM is a top 50 academic university"

So is UF.
What has academics to do with football anyways?
Stanford, Northwestern and Vanderbilt are all private schools with much better academics than UM and much better football teams.
This point is moot and stUpid.


"UM TV ratins are among the highest in cfb, even higher than so-called BCS progrmas/ THis is despite of you all's whining about bad facilities, bad recruiting, etc etc."

Again, won't bother to fact check this claim, it makes no difference.
What is true is that UM has one of the worst attendance numbers among big time college football schools.
It is also true they have some of the worst facilities and don't have an on campus stadium.
All of this contributes to the recruiting problems at UM.

"Why is that? Because this is the U."

Yep that is the answer to all that ails you.
Why are we getting out recruited by FSU and UF and Bama and most other schools?
Because this is the U.
Why did our administration allow Shapiro access to our players and program?
Because this is the U.
Why can't we get an on campus stadium?
Because this is the U.
Why do we have a revolving door for ADs?
Because this id the U.
Why have we been stuck in mediocrity for a decade?
Because this is the U.

"You wouldn't understand. Therefore, don't come on here with all your negative half truths"

We understand, it is you who don't.
Point to a single "half truth" I have presented.


Posted by: 1981-2011 UM 5

Even your name is a half truth.
Should be 1981 - 2001 UM 5
Nothing before, nothing since

You're supposedly a "Florida Gators fan" who spends his entire life researching the University of Miami so you can trash talk Miami fans on the Miami Herald website every day.

You're so embarrassed by the amount of time you spend here you invent new names and personalities every month so no one can tell how pathetic you are.

Tell me again why Miami fans should care what you think about our football team?

are you a complete idiot.....read the statement "the department of athletic LEADERS" = golden and company....more than 1 person, nowhere in the official UM statement does it say athletic director....

just admit it....golden f...cked the class of 2012. Do you think alabama would go forward with self sanctions if saban was not on board?....what are you a child...grow up jr mint

truths:....those are pretty much the facts....these idiots are cluless...they pretend they know stuff but are totally out to lunch.....

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