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PODCAST: The latest on Canes' big recruiting weekend with InsideTheU's David Lake

The Miami Hurricanes have three visit weekends left before National Signing Day, but this next one will be a big one for Al Golden and his coaching staff.

Three four-star South Florida recruits -- South Plantation running back Alex Collins, Booker T. Washington offensive lineman Denver Kirkland and Port St. Lucie Centennial defensive tackle Jay-Nard Bostwick -- will be visiting Coral Gables this weekend. 

The Hurricanes, who currently have one player signed and 12 other commitments as part of its 2013 class, have another five to six spots they could end up filling (thank Thomas Finnie and Gionni Paul for the extra slots) by Feb. 6. Golden told WQAM last week the Canes were willing to wait until the end to land some big-time kids late. We'll see if the gamble pays off. 

I caught up with InsideTheU staff writer David Lake, who covers Canes recruiting about as deeply as anyone, on Tuesday to discuss the latest on the Canes recruiting front and this big weekend.  If you've got about 12-13 minutes tune in.

EYE ON THE U PODCAST

COLLINS UPDATE

As for Collins, considered the nation's No. 1 running back according to 247Sports.com, South Plantation High coach Doug Gatewood told me this afternoon the former UM commitment is really undecided with what he'll do. Miami, Florida State, Wisconsin, Florida and Arkansas are all in the picture.

Texas, Gatewood told me, is trying to make push to get Collins' last official visit next weekend. He's currently scheduled to visit Arkansas.

"I asked Alex today to try and give me some sort of idea of what he's really looking for to separate the school and he really couldn't. He has no idea," Gatewood said.

"As far as he's concerned the education, the campus, weight rooms, facilities, all that stuff is pretty equal in his eyes. You talk about playing time, Miami has Duke Johnson. Florida State has the kid from Central [Devonta Freeman]. Wisconsin has James White coming back. Arkansas has kids. Florida has quite a few coming back. He's been to Miami about five or six times on unofficial visits. Hopefully this weekend helps clear some things up for him."

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Calvin when you get out of jail, let us know ok. Do you hear yourself speak dude??? If a kid STOLE, especially from a guy who was his TEAMMATE, then what does that say about that kid?? That says that kid is a piece of c-r-a-p and YOU think he DESERVES a FULL ride scholarship to Miami, or ANY college for that matter? HELLLLL No he doens't.

I dont' know that kind of kids you raise, but condoning thievery is not what college football is all about. You need to get out of your 1980's haze and put the coke spoon down. You sound like a gang leader.

lets just see what golden does....its all about performance....if the bowls are out og the way like he tinks, then he should be able to get all those decommits back....either he is what people say he or not....speculation is for fools

goldens time to prove himself....

the guy was a walk on ex-teammate. Get the story straight....yes give the guy a pass....UM cant afford to loose anyone, who says any of these decommits will come back.....2 hours from now you can heat ncaa sanctions extremely severe...who knows, if that happens forget it...none will come.

"old cane handbook" vs. "goldens 300 page alter boy handbook".....I'm going with the old cane, especially the part of boosting stereos, no water at practice, drug deal (minor), and cash advances from luther pool....those we the best day ever, lol....of also lost drug test results....

norman clarke, nice knowing you black, but what does that have to do with the facts. Nobody on here is saying shannon was some great headcoach and didn't have room for improvement. Alot of in house and organizational things that needed to be improved upon. But if you're suggesting that shalala gave shannon the full resources to suceed, you sound like those bill clinton backers who always want to point out "clinton hired alot of blacks" as if that somehow means it's a better day, when clinton took more away from blacks than any other president.

Any black that got hired in the whitehouse does not represent those blacks that are constantly being targeted, they're doing ok if they could fill out an application that qualifies them for a whitehouse job.
shalala only tries and support those she feel like are conformist, if you go in their being your own man, get real. That being said, how in the hell did shannon have the full support with the type of payroll they gave him to work with, lol.

You know and everybody on here knows, shannon had to try and clean up a program that got destroyed by the prior regime. Whether he was black or white, the facts are, he got promoted from within, stayed loyal to those that were there and they didn't pan out, so every move shannon made became an upgrade on that coaching staff, maybe with the exception of mark nipple over nix, at least in nix's offense the turn-overs were way down. So shannon didn't get a chance to start from scratch and come into UM with his own crew, that's the first fact that needs to be recognized.

Next, those guys shannon wanted, he didn't have enuff money to go and get them to be his oc, which anybody on here knows, most of the games lost under shannon were simply because of the offense. You want to show stats where teams with spread offenses gave a shannon defense problems, lol, bring the stats, but also bring the stats of shannon's defenses long after butch davises players were gone as well, if you read my post, you'll clearly see in 2006, we still had a top 7 defense, were those butch davis recruits.

Keep in mind, those defenses were playing at a time when our offenses were straight trash. I agree, i never wanted aubrey hill here and was disappointed shannon hired him and said so, that was as bad as letting brock berlin transfer here, gaytors don't belong here.

Don't be a goldie apologist though and fall for the, "he had to play alot of freshman and sophmores on defense" cry. Those depth issues were self inflicted, they got rid of ray ray cause they didn't want to deal with ray ray and his girlfriend/agent issue. They didn't play vaughn telemaque who was better than kacy rogers, they tried to move luther robinson to o-line, moved dzp to middle linebacker when everybody knows he's and outside linebacker, but that left jimmy gaines on the bench. Had shayon green, benched darius smith because they made em lose to much weight and he became ineffective, but in the mean time they got tight-ends balloned up to 270 & 275lbs and are expecting them to get open

It's a myth that we were young on defense, goldie help create that situation to try and buy time for his boy. Than when you add in the suspensions and the players let go, it's excuse after excuse about why the defense has been trash. You know and i know, you can say it as long as you want to, but the facts are, those so called out of shape randy shannon teams played way better defense than the so called in shape defenses goldie has fielded.

Also, last year, the defense was still terrible because the scheme was still trash. Let's not act like having older players made that much of a difference. If so, than goldie needs to stop being a hypocrite, he was quick to point out after the BETHUNE COOKMAN game and made it clear "look, we had a more veteran team last year and they didn't hold BETHUNE to 10 points" lol, i immdeiately said, come on man, this is the last guy that needs to be taking shots, so if he wants to go like that, what happened with Georgia tech this year, or all the teams we played last year vs this year, k st. 52 points, etc. etc., than he wanted to fall back on the, we're young talk.

THANKS NORMAN FOR SETTING THE FACTS STRAIGHT. I AM A BROTHA ALSO AND I SUPPORTED SHANNON IN THE BEGINNING BUT HE DID NOT PRODUCE AND HIS STYLE RAN OFF A LOT OF RECRUITS IN THE SOUTH FLA. AREA. HE DID A TERRIBLE JOB OF DEVELOPING THE TALENT AS FAR AS IMPROVING ON SIZE,STRENGTH, AND PERFORMING ON THE FIELD. I SAW THE 2013 SCHEDULE AND THIS YEAR GOLDEN HAS NO MORE EXCUSES,IF THIS TEAM DOES NOT PERFORM WELL AND WIN THIS YEAR HE DESERVES THE SAME CRITICISM AS SHANNON RECEIVED. IF THE TEAM DOES WIN THEN THE CROWDS AND THE RECRUITS WILL RETURN. SOMETIMES MAYBE IT'S BEST TO RECRUIT MORE IN OTHER AREA. I'M FROM GAINESVILLE(I'M A CANE NOT A GATOR) THERE ARE A LOT OF CANE FANS ESPECIALLY IN THE HOOD WHO WANT TO PLAY FOR THE U(CLINTON PORTIS) GROW UP WANTING TO BE CANES NOT GATORS. I LIVE IN ATLANTA AND THE CANE FANS UP HERE ARE SO LARGE THEY FILL UP AN ENTIRE SPORTS BAR. MY POINT IS THERE ARE CANE FANS EVERY WHERE AND MAYBE SOMETIMES IT'S BEST TO RECRUIT OTHER PLACES WHERE THERE ARE GOOD PLAYERS WHO WANT TO BE CANES. GO CANES 2013 ACC CHAMPS.

Posted by: TK SWAN!!

Whoa - in Atlanta where the population is 4 million, the cane fans can fill an entire sports bar!?!

something is telling me now that the sanctions are gonna be severe.....after new rule changes in October with ncaa...I think we get heavy fine plus 3 or 4 bowl bans....2 bowl ban is at the low end and the ncaa has to show teeth at this point because of the new rule changes....they really cant back off or they will look stupid....high probability UM gets no commits....the handlers would be irresponsible having their guys take on all this risk and don't forget...the coach will ALSO be doing what is best for himself....no top recruit will want to be left standing with no chair when the music stops.....

also whoever said that matthew Thomas cancelled his usc trip is wrong....he is going this weekend. the more rosters in the henhouse (usc etc) the worse it is for UM.....

so does it really matter who the HC is?..these kids do what is best for them now and are not loyal to anyone....its a whole different ballgame now....

Come on guys! Reality is that only the sanction unknowns are the only ammunitions other schools have to lure top prospects away from Miami. These kids know that The U is rebuilding and only a few more studs from matching the productivity of Gaytors and FSU. Ok attendance may be small factor. But winning changes that. What scares other schools is that Miami is in play for all the top S Fla talent now. Say what you want but when recruits here from players about the social aspects of UM/City of Miami, seeing stars, rappers! people like Lebron James etc. These are extras that only USC can match. If the canes can get back to full strength no one is silly enough to think they can't get back to Championship Caliber. Stop with the juevenile sillyness and use adult reasoning.

Is anyone on this message board stupid enough to believe Jim Gallo is anything but a Gator troll? Give it up already.

kids wont commit if there are 3/4 bowl bans....accept it...your dreaming otherwise

Couple of points:

1) Championships and 5>3>2, Norman Clark posted that he is black and is happy that Randy Shannon was fired. Speaking with friends and associates at the games and around town, there are many more like him. What does that show you? Well, it tells you that PEOPLE- BLACK, WHITE, RED, GREEN make individual choices from what they see.

They are many white people who defend Randy Shannon and even though he is gone and they believe that he should have been let go, they do not blame ALL OF UM'S CURRENT PROBLEMS ON HIM and think the man is the scum of the earth like you guys do. People are free to make their own decisions, so please you 2 whenever someone defends or does not blame Randy Shannon for everything like you guys do (even the fiscal cliff and sinking the Titanic), do not assume that they are black.

It gets tiring, because even though non of the people on the board who defend Shannon states in their post that Shannon was terminated because of his race, you guys continually post things like, "you guys are defending Randy, because he/you are black". It is petty and small. The dialogue on this board should be above that and last time I logged on, it never asked me a single thing about race, so I don't know how you all know each and every persons race and nationality on here.

2) Gallo, you are the most negative person on here. You intentionally want UM to fail. I personally do not know where Matt Thomas is going to go, but I DO KNOW that Coach Barrow and Golden are doing their best to make that man become a Miami Hurricane. So the kid is taking a trip to USC.

If I were 17 and had never been to L.A./Hollywood/Southern California, I would too. I have been there 5 times and believe me, if someone offered me a free (all expenses paid) trip out their tomorrow for myself and/or my family, my wife and I would call in to our jobs and be head to either Ft. Lauderdale or MIA (whichever flight was leaving first). The same is true of UM, you know how many kids are in Cali, N.J., Iowa, Georgia, Texas, Ohio, etc. and are going to stay home, but UM recruits them and they have never been to Miami/South Beach/South Florida and they take the trip? Numerous. L.A. and Miami are destination spots and people die to go to these places. So him taking a trip out to USC means nothing.

Look, you don't have to see eye to eye with everything CAG does (Lord knows I don't). There is nothing wrong with questioning his decisions or moves, it is smart and it is your right as a fan (again, I do also), BUT you need to try to support the team and staff, instead of trying to always come on here and bash every and anything CAG.

Honestly dude,if you feel so strongly about CAG being let go, why don't you start your own blog and post little tid bits and stats like you do? You would get some hits (I'm serious). It would be better to do that, than come on this site and just CONSTANTLY CRITICIZE EVERYTHING Coach Golden and his staff does. 97% of the people on this board may not see eye to eye on certain things, but they/we want UM to return to being a top 5/top 10 football program. the other 2% are Gator or 'Nole fan's and 1% are not truly 'Canes fans, but anti-Golden fans and even if CAG wins 3 NC's, they will find something to complain about. If you are that 1%, then you need to blog elsewhere or start your own stinking blog.

There are many that think they know football, but they do not. Listening to those professionals that report on recruits is a waste of time. Use your eyes to see the strengths and weaknesses in a player, yourself. Prime example check the top players, three or four years prior, to see how well they do in the draft, or even make an NFL roster. You will be surprised how many do not.

This is all to show that Miami, under Randy Shannon, never had an elite recruiting class. The class that was listed number one, had too few linemen. The linemen were there at the end of Randy Shannon's tenure. That is why the expectations should have been higher for Golden to succeed, with more depth.

The lack of funds also hindered the ability to get a proper staff for Randy Shannon. He also recruited top students, that were football players. Only two service academies, had a better graduation rate. Imagine that the most dominate football program ever, now the best, true football program, in graduation rate. That does not seem to be the case with Golden. A team of top students does not win as many games against teams of lesser students.

So those are reason why Golden should be more successful now, than Randy Shannon was. But he has not. Why no major disagreement with this coach? That many are calling the opposite, which is great.

You all didnt believe what I said? Calvin? Big Mouth? read up on what Mr Clarke has to say. Chee Chee in thahouse!

He wrote truth. Period. No one here includingme said Shannon wasnt a good person. But the Militant ones acted like I just smacked onthe good doctor MLK. Clarke spoke the word of truth. There.

Perido end of story. Calvin YOuve been had with facts. Now drop it. Support the canes. Enough is enough

NORMAN AND CANE4LIFE. thank you for posting. Gallo - I know you are Manny's alterego and need to keep stirring to keep the board lively, but geez - trololol.

Calvin is right...Kirby Hoecunt was bought by Midget Man (Nevin Shapiro) and he was on a mission to get rid of Shannon..Even though RS went 9-3, Hoecunt refused to give him a contract until late in the recruiting season...SHannon went 5-7, 7-5 and 9-3 (within a caught pass to make the ACCCG and a better bowl game with the toughest schedule in CFB)..Golden is 6-6 and 7-5 and if AG does not win 10 games with that schedule he needs to go and/or fire his D corch..He keeps defending his inept buddy of his (D corch) blaming the kids, saying we don't have depth, experience, etc...Yet McGee is the best CB prospect and scouts can't believe it...Why? Because the sorry scheme is the culprit as to why Miami's D sucked, plus D corch would take almost to where the other team would snap the ball to call a D play and align his players...ANY0NE CAN SEE THAT, YET IDI0TS KEEP DEFENDING D C0RCH...

N0 M0RE EXCUSES...10-2 0R BETTER....0R BUST!!!

Good post by CANE4LIFE

Tensions are high on the board...sanctions, recruiting, and Gallo.

Can't wait to see the posts when (when) this team starts winning.

Shannon didn't get fired for not winning,remember, He left here with winning record.AFAIC, I think Shannon got fired for,

A. Not being a cash-cow for the University, and
B. The media didn't like Him.

At the end of the day, if the boosters and fans are not happy, then you damn well better have the media on your side. Although I support Golden, let's be for real, Golden does a good job of using the media to cover His shortcomings.

D C0RCH MUST G0!!!

Reality check clUcks:

GoldenBalls hasn't done squat in 2 years, 'cept talk and talk some more. No big wins, no bowls, no good recruiting to match the rivals.

UM does not want to play Thurs nite games cause the stadium is empty and they are embarrassed to show that on ESPN
UM wants to cover up the upper tiers with tarps for the same reason.
Tired of everyone making fun of the empty orange seats.

Loosing, clUeless coaches and no fan support
That is what the top recruits see
No matter how many tarps you get
That is why those who are not afraid to leave Dade county do so. No contest.
It sUcks to be U
All dUmb, delUsional and in denial is no way to go through life clUcks!

Reality check loser:

Miami only plays your team once every five years, you've wasted literally hundreds of hours of your life obsessing over a school that has nothing to do with the team you follow.

Who the heck is randy shannon?

Three or four bowl bans?

You're a f*cking idiot Jim Gallo, why do you waste your time intentionally saying dumb things to try to make Miami fans look bad?

and that is a sad statement.

Gallo, you can't write or reason. One idiotic comment after another.

cane4life: your just a Kool-Aid drinking idiot green pea...golden and his staff keep making major mistakes, how can you not be so down on him....first of all the guy has no business being a HC of a brand like UM....he is 40-45 that's below average the last time I was in math class, lol......

a f...cking cane mutiny this year with him and these kids....calling radio stations and all the rest....we lost:

gionni paul
alex collins
keith bryant
travis johnson
kermit whitfield
jayron kearse
angelo jean-louis

#117, 3rd from last play in ncaa and cane history

his 2 years stats in every category are worse than when Shannon was here....UM was 7-5, give me a break...

yes new ncaa sanctions are 2-4 bowls,that was the change in 2012.....so if UM gets 3/4 assuming the 2 already given up are not enough...UM will not commit anyone....

if you think a top tier guy will waste his freshman/soph year your crazy...he aint gonna let his competition run away with all the stats....

Miami's already served two bowl bans and hopefully three.

Worst case scenario is one year.

and don't think golden wont abandon ship either....recruits are not stupid....their parents/coaches and advisors have discussed all the risks of coming to UM....and this blog means nothing to them...they already know the score, only green pea idiots that are to young to know anything dream instead of looking for a job, lol

Even if Miami gets 1 more bowl ban (which I don not see happening) the kids coming will be in a bowl in 2014, 2015 and 2016...0f course, IF AG fires the D corch..

2013 ACC CHAMPS MIAMI HURRICANES 10-2 OR MAYBE EVEN 11-1 WE WILL BEAT ONE OF THE 2 (FLA/FLA. ST) AND FINISH IN TOP 10, IF NOT AND WE DON'T WIN 10 GAMES WITH THAT SCHEDULE THAN I BELIEVE GOLDEN WILL LEAVE AND CRISTOBAL WILL BE COACH IN 2014. I HOPE I'M WRONG AND GOING INTO 2014 THE CANES WILL BE NC CONTENDERS. THEN THERE WILL BE NO MORE TALK OF RANDY SHANNON, NCAA SANCTIONS,RECRUITING NOT GOING GOOD OR SMALL CROWDS. THE MOST IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENT THAT I HOPE THAT WILL SHUT ME UP AND ALL TRUE CANE FANS IS IF DONNO TURNS THE DEFENSE INTO A TOP 5 DEFENSE, THEN I KNOW I MUST STOP DRINKING!!!

maybe they will be in a bowl......you are assuming that this staff will be successful....I am not convinced of that....there is nothing in the history of ANY of these coaches except for art, that proves any of that....divisions are re-aligning and better teams are in the mix....so who knows, all that is important is NOW....and the defense is awful and will be our risk going forward...the right thing to do is fire dnofio immediately...the longer he is here..the harder for UM

Not fair to put Calvin in the same sentence as Gallo. Calvin makes some points about the administration hampering the football program that are still relevant today. They just get lost amidst his constant defenses of Shannon. Gallo is just a no-nothing moron typing out the schizophrenic conversations he has in his head. The next time he is right will be the first.

Jimmy & Calvin:
I gots me 2 targets, to negative Nellies. Wandy Shannon lovers. Lets talk real turkey. Fact Randy stunk as a head coach. Fact as a head coach, he got lazy in the recruiting department. He had one good class, that as it turns out wasn't that hot, based on pro draft status. Fact he put all his dam eggs in a basket with Jabboney "colorblind" Harris or as I call him the "anti-Cane".
Fact when Goldie got here the dam cubbard was basically bare of defensive talent. He had no depth at CB, LB, Or at DT, of course we all know how our defense has turned out the last couple of years. B.S. on putting the blame all on DENO. The defense lacks some real star power and depth of talent, thanks Randy! This will be Goldie's 2ND full recruiting class, well we really can't call it full because we are only getting 15-17 kids. The first class he had to come in and salvage, from Randy getting the much deserved boot. Fact Randy had alienated several Highschool programs from the "U". I could go on and on but there is one thing fo sho, we haven't had an A-A, DT since Wilfork left and if we don't get that problem solved, all the offense in the world ain't going to help. If we don't get quality depth on that side of the ball, we ain't never climbing back up the mountain (ship). We'll be at least 9-3 next year.

norman clarke, don't be an shalala and goldie apologist, you, like alot of people are hypocritical if you're trying to use a few games where certain offenses scored a few points when shannon was the d-co. Does bama have a bad d-co since texas a&m beat them by spreading them out, although they have alot of nfl talent but shannon like you said had "butch davis recruits" was glenn cook or romeo davis butch davis recruits, you saw the talent on defense shannon had to work with and still put those guys in position to make plays and be a top 7 defense.

I guess bama's d-co is no good because he didn't shut down Georgia, lol. You have the same problem alot of other people have, you guys are convoluting shannon the headcoach and shannon the d-co. shannon ran a defense that shut down most teams in the country than it's "oh, he had butch davis recruits", shannon won the broyles award as coordinator of the year, tha nit's "oh he had butch davis recruits", the majority when it comes to something positive that shannon did, they say it was because of someone else, but as soon as something perceived as negative hits, you like alot of others want to than give shannon all the credi than. If shannon was white like you suggested maybe that man would get the credit.he deserved.

You do realize that one year or 2 under shannon around when he 1st took over, nobody really was getting drafted. Than once shannon took hold, he was the one who started upgrading the talent around here, players started getting drafted again, left goldie with alot of draftable players, and every year under shannon players started getting drafted higher and higher. So the man did alot of good work here for a first time headcoach, what's goldie's excuse.


Calvin Chee Chee clarke is not apologizing for anyone. he spoke the truth about the failings (as a head coach) of your man Shannon. Why you buggin???? Why are you getting so defensive? IS it a bro thing? Hey, I am here telling you, I was very happy aboutRandy beinghired after Coker. I thought we would dominate recruiting in sofl FOREVER. I thought that was our key to another ship....

I was dead wrong.

Learn to man up and accept the truth.

Canesrock- Good points buddy. There are also several other reasons. This whole Coach Shannon situation has been spoken and typed about adnauseam, but here goes again a few more reasons. This does not make it wrong or right and I for one thought he deserved one more year, but I ultimately understand what happened. No matter what, I do not have a bad word to say about the man, but I understand those who do and it is absolutely their right. I just have a problem with people who still blame him for EVERYTHING like this years defense, to why it is still 85 degrees in South Florida in January and why "Silver Linings Playbook" did not win more Golden Globe awards Sunday, when he has been gone going on 3 years now.

Other issues that Coach Shannon had was that he was not media savvy and to be honest, he was not the most eloquent public speaker either. That stated, the administration gave him a small budget to hire his staff with and that started his tenure off on a bad foot. Coach Shannon had friends in the coaching circle that he wanted to hire like Dirk Koetter (the Atlanta Falcons current OC) that wanted to work for Randy, but Randy did not have the budget to hire him. so he was forced to go with Nix and sugar coat the hiring with his silly statement. He also had to go cheap and instead of hire a good DC, promote Tim Walton, who was not ready for the responsibilities of the position.

Truly though Coach Shannon had failings as a coach also. He and his staff did not developing players properly and CRS failed in statement games: GT on the road- cold Thursday night game, FSU- Saturday night game, Virgina- Closing out OB and game Jacory got hurt on road, Clemson- Home lose in OT and Wisconsin- Bowl game. Those were all games Miami was predicted to win. The USF loss at home was the final straw for many. By the way, I am not counting the Buckeye loss up in Columbus, or the OU loss in Norman (those were games we were at least 7 game underdogs going into).

Randy did have some very good wins also, but the only statement game we won was at home against OU when OU was ranked). Bottom line is, IF COACH SHANNON WON MORE GAMES he would still be here. Those loses, along with the fact that he was a football coach, not a schmoozer, slick talker/politician, dinner circuit guy, were what ultimately brought his demise. I honestly believe that if Coach Shannon had the gift of gab and "played the game" he would have bought himself at least one more year.

NOW, Coach Golden has not won any statement games either (the OSU game was against a depleted OSU squad with interm Coach Luke Fickell does not count). CAG has also had several very bad loses also and the defense this year was horrific. That is why I believe this year is crucial for CAG. Honestly though, CAG is at the perfect place for him right now, why? Well, even if UM has a bad year again (please, none of us could not take it), with the impeding sanctions, which good coach would we be able to hire? Any top coaches that the administration may want to open up the purse string for and hire, would not take the job (this would have to be thier dream job- ala, Lane Kiffin at USC). Due to these impending sanctions (hopefully only scholly reductions), CAG really has several years of job security. That is why, even if you are not a CAG fan, but a TRUE HURRICANE fan, you will support CAG, cause he is not going anywhere for now.

BTW, this is not a knock on CAG whatsoever, he knows how to "play the game" and that helps the admin. and others gloss over some of his inequities. I am an independent contractor and I have to "play the game" also in my line of business. It does not mean that you are a butt kisser, suck up or doing anything unscrupulous, it just means that you have to go above and beyond sometimes and deal with people that you may not really care for, but have to deal with so that you can ultimately get the job done.

NOT ONE "FAKE U" FAN HAS CONFESSED THAT MR. RANDY SHANNON IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WARNED AND INSTRUCTED HIS PLAYERS TO STAY AWAY FROM THE CRIMINAL/THIEF SHAPIRO (FAKE BOOSTER) IN AN ATTEMPT TO PREVENT WHAT ALL THE "FAKE U" FANS ARE NOW CRYING ABOUT.

PROOF: HOW CAN YOU "FAKE U" FANS SAY YOU ARE FAMILY WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. MR. SHANNON IS FAMILY AND IS IN HISTORY AT THE "U" FOR HELPING THEM WHEN NOT 1 BUT 2 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS AS A PLAYER!!!!

Reality Check is this Blog labelled Randy - for or against him- or is it RECRUITING...

We have spun this wheel so many times, I noticed that the board who had regular postersin th epast who have either stopped posting, moved on,or are bored to death..

How many ideas, opinions, and facts do we have to endure and keep coming back here.Debating Randy etc
The regulars are dropping like flies as they read all this....Boring been there, done that.

I have to be straigth up and make this comment:
This board has been hijacked and every subject for the last 2months or so have been turned into a Randy or Race thing..
We are here for Football and to Rehash something from the past while the present and future high school athletes who are here and wanting to make the 'U' relevant again, is ignored..is pathetic.

Let's get a grip and take back our board or posters will leave.

Calvina and Jimmy have been kicked off other boards so let us not have them dictate our recruiting, topics, and what the HE** we want to write...
Enough Already....Can sanity prevail among all this?..
I hope so, or more posters will move on.
The'U' will be the 'U'

Gallo.....this is why you have no credibility...

Angelo jean-louis was an acedemic casualty!!!!!!!!!! Had nothing to do with AG.

d- In case you dont know how to read, nobody here, corpus, 'ships, or anyone has ever questioned that Shannon is or was a cane. Nobody.

And there is no law that says one can't criticize former canes. Like many of you criticize Coker, despite the fact that under his head coachship, UM went to 2 back to back NCs, should have won both, finished 5th the next year, and beat UF twice in a row and FSU 6 times in a row.

All many of us say- and you can read Norman Clarkes very factual summary, Shannon S_U---ked as a HC. I even go as far as saying he was overrated as a DC. My opinion. I never said anything about the man's character, or honesty. Coaching only and that uncludes demanor with the public and media, communication with local area head coaches, recruiting and game time decisiosns. Perido end of story.

Now, to more important things-

Golden is going to close out recruitiunghard these next 3 weeks. You all watch.

I am planning on upping my U donations. NCAA be dam-ned!

Calvin, get a life and stop writing so much garbage on these posts. Go Canes!!! I am so gflad we got rid of Shannon and brought in Golden.

UGOCane- No truer words or statement has been stated in a long time. Great post!!! This is getting to the point of the bloods and crips, Israeli's and Palestinians and Catholics and Protestants in Ireland. We ALL need to move on and support the University of Miami and THIS coaching staff, because it is who we have now. If you don't like Golden, then instead of nit picking every single thing he does, find another team to support till he is fired, moves on to another College team, goes to the NFL or retires. He is who we have and he is doing the best that he can.

There are many that think they know football, but they do not. Listening to those professionals that report on recruits is a waste of time. Use your eyes to see the strengths and weaknesses in a player, yourself. Prime example check the top players, three or four years prior, to see how well they do in the draft, or even make an NFL roster. You will be surprised how many do not.

This is all to show that Miami, under Randy Shannon, never had an elite recruiting class. The class that was listed number one, had too few linemen. The linemen were there at the end of Randy Shannon's tenure. That is why the expectations should have been higher for Golden to succeed, with more depth.

The lack of funds also hindered the ability to get a proper staff for Randy Shannon. He also recruited top students, that were football players. Only two service academies, had a better graduation rate. Imagine that the most dominate football program ever, now the best, true football program, in graduation rate. That does not seem to be the case with Golden. A team of top students does not win as many games against teams of lesser students.

So those are reason why Golden should be more successful now, than Randy Shannon was. But he has not. Why no major disagreement with this coach? That many are calling the opposite, which is great.

Posted by: ChampCane | January 16, 2013 at 12:15 PM

this man knows what he's talking about, another independent thinker. What alot of these daffodils fail to realize, it was shannon's recruitign classes that raised the expectations of winning again, but really and Truly the expectations got raised because of some of these clown websites that rated a class full of linebackers and widereceivers as the #1 recruiting class, lol. I said it back than, who's in charge of rating these classes, it's idiotic, this is not the nfl draft.

Than you look at a lot of these sites, they go back and add stars to players they had rated low years later after the man has started balling, why, because it's alot of money involved with tracking recruits.
So alot of people got their expectations all in a wad and jacked up based off of espn and these recruiting sites saying "Miami had the #1 recruiting class".

Than the ultimate lie "shannon didn't develop players" lol, how many players got drafted under shannon, again, who on here is foolish enuff to beleive that when goldie became the headcoach, had he kept nipple that our offense and jacory would've cut down on the turn-overs. Point being was it shannon or the oc/qb coach. It's obvious, how and where at any level does the oc and the qb do not even have a working relationship during games. So nipple would let jacory go and sit by himself, who's the adult. Again i guess that was shannon's fault too.

You run the list down of players that developed under shannon, this is how silly most are, sam shields goes to the pro's as a db and thrives and makes millions, somehow, people tried to turn it into a negative by saying "look at sam shields producing in the pro's but at UM he didn't do such & such" well who was the one who made him switch to being a db, HEL-LO! Than they'll say and point to "shield nfl position coach said he was surprised that sam didn't know how to look at film"

Well to him and to others, the man wasn't playing db his whole UM career, so of course he didn't know how to watch film about defense, add to that, he didn't see that much of a need to while at UM until late in the process.

Like i said, this man up top knows football and see's it for what it is.

Thank You Norman Clark.....that is pure, "shut up city."

LOL Calvin and his sidekick Nash have been spinning their know it all garbage for years on other sites and have lost all credibility on them and Calvin was asked to leave more than one. Everyone on this site is now beginning to find that out.

Thank You again, roflmao I loved it!

IF you look at Espns 150 Any word on alexander, 4th overall player from imokalee? edgerrin jamess school? hes #4, Matt Thomas is #6. THats 2 top 6 players .

Nobody cares if you're glad shannon is gone, the question is, what makes you happy that coach goldie is here, he's 13 & 11 in his first 2 years, only 2 games better than shannon, most are just wondering why most of you are acting like the program is in way better shape than when shannon was here. I'm not rooting against goldie, so before some clown comes on and say that, all i'm saying is, goldie hasn't earned his title as UM coach. Him staying even though the sanctions came, ok, that's nothing impressive to me, that's job security. Several coaches would've lined up to take this job, sanctions and all.

It's just that, you're not going to get me to believe in a guy when i know what i see. goldie has potential to be a real solid headcoach, until that switch is turned on though, and it hasn't yet, we'll get players that can help us for sure, but a defense sitting at 117th after year 2, is not impressive. Self inflicted depth issues, not impressive either. The players/athletes will come in, will they be utilized aggressively or passively.

oach OH-NO doesn't coach with heart and for all the intensity talk i heard about him as a player and as a oach, i see none of that when he's coaching on the sidelines. i need to see someone who looks like they believe in their own calls. Anyway, goldie is well organized, has a plan an is selling a vision and believes in that vision. He see's him and his boy in that vision. In reality though, either he'll have to dump his boy or his boy will look for another job, but the weak links have to start being weeded out on this coaching staff.

I'm curious to see how the receivers are going to play this year. george mcdonald was a good receivers coach, this year, i don't recall seeing one receiver get called for holding while blocking down field. Yeah we had drops, but will percy pringle be a good receiver's coach is the question. We all know mcdonald knew what he was teaching and he knew when to get on the players and help to bring the best out of them.

Until goldie wins a national championship in some shape or form at UM he'll be considered an outsider by me. And since his playing days are over with, he can only do it one way, and that's as a headcoach, get to work goldie.

GALLO,CALVIN AND CANEKILLER STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU THREE LISTEN UP RANDY SHANNON IS FIRED DUMBASSES!!!

GET OVER IT HE'S NEVER COMING BACK TROLLS!!!!!

HE SUCKED AS A HEAD COACH WITH ALL OF THOSE GREAT RECRUITING CLASSES PERIOD!!!!!!!

GO AWAY TO THE GAYTURD AND SEMEN-HOLE BLOGS PLEASE YOU ARE NAUSEATING ALL THREE OF YOU!!!!!!!

WE HAVE A NEW COACH WHO WILL WIN HERE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT TARDS!!!!!!!

DO YOU HEAR THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH??????

GO THE F^CK AWAY PLEASE!!!!!!

IN AL WE TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!

Whenever I read the "comments" in this sports page I find ONE lonely man purported to be six different 'bloggers'. The last time I checked the "comments" piece of said article there has been ans always will be the same ISOLATED WIENER that keeps appearing like GAY MAGIC!! POOF! This guy 'Calvin','Cool Cat','When does the','Cane Killer' loves to read his own pathetic pompous diatribe over and over.
KUDOS, KUDOS I say to this friendless virgin (Homosexual sodomy aside). Go forth, and may the next 10 aliases you derive be an even easier tell then clUck U, or delUsional cane...You talentless, non sophisticated, KAK gobbling RuBE!!!!
9-3 2013 ACC Contender!!

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