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AP Poll: Miami is four spots out of Top 25 -- win against No. 10 Gators would give Canes big boost

The AP Poll for 2013 was just released, and as expected, Miami was not among the Top 25 teams.

However, the Canes did earn 85 points, good for what would be No. 29 in the poll. Ahead of them by one point, No. 28 Virginia Tech.

Miami finished 27th in the Coaches' Poll that was previously released.

UM gets a chance to knock off the No. 10 Florida Gators at Sun Life Stadium on Sept. 7 in the second game of the season, which would put the Canes among at least the Top 25.

Then, on Nov. 2, Miami faces FSU, which is No. 11 now but who knows by then?

Other UM opponents receiving points were Georgia Tech (6, for 38th place) and North Carolina (3 for 41st place).

From the AP's stats maven Tim Reynolds: "Fun fact that many will steal as if they looked it up: 1983 Canes didn't get a single vote in the first 4 polls, and still won it all."

From ESPN stats: No team in the BCS era (since 1997) has won the BCS title without being ranked in preseason AP poll. Lowest ranked? No. 22 Auburn in 2010.

The Canes have a favorable schedule this season. That Florida game will tell us a lot, though it is still really early. 

SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN

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Why in the WORLD would anyone be writing this "IF", BS?

Just play the games and win the games, the rest takes care of itself.

There shouldn't be any polls until every team has played 4 games, period!

As a player even in highschool, you want those polls. I loved it. As a team (ND) for example you gain a lot from the polls. Even Texas A&M gained a lot from the rankings . Canes will be ranked when they play the Gators.

When your defense gets beat for fifty yards on two occasions and they know the plays. What are they going to do against other offenses. I'm little worried. Don't want to see last year D.

Posted by: canesallnight | August 16, 2013 at 11:28 PM
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stacey coley is on the bus! LOL, the question is, how did he get behind the prevent. I'll say this though, i won't be mad if these touchdowns were given up because we were being aggressive. It's not like satcey coley is chop liver, but a real good indication will be what the other offensive stats look like. We didn't really give up bombs last year, and with stacey, he special now, believe that, but unfortunately we'll have to see what he does against a real defense in order for him to be certified because we all know going up against the 117th defense in practice don't tell you nothing.

This is why i laughed last year when we played Florida St. and coach goldie called for those 3 passes to robert lockhart first off with a qb who had no touch and than that play might worked against our defense in practice with our db's playing 8 and 10 yards off the wide-outs but the fact that he thought it was going to work against Fsu showed he had no clue, this is why until we get a defense that's going to challenge our offense in practice FOR REAL, this team will have the players that will never reach their full potential messing around with this mac coachign crew.

For those who want to get back to feeling what a sense of normalcy use to feel like around here we turn to the school down the way!
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The defense seems to be one step ahead of the offense as coach ron turner’s first training camp at FIU winds down.
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No, you don't say!


this is why until we get a defense that's going to challenge our offense in practice FOR REAL, this team will have the players that will never reach their full potential messing around with this mac coachign crew.


Posted by: Calvin | August 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM


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Point well taken! I also said Miami's BELOVED d-coordinator was out of his league. When facing opposing B.C.S. offensive coordinators.

Yet, the usual ATTACKS and what not for spreading the truth about the Hurricanes D-coordinator.

Again, MIGHTY f.a.u's offensive players and coaches are very, very, very EAGER to face Miami's defense!!

So beware Cane bUbba's, because the Hoot, Hoot Owls are absolutely NOT in AWE of the Hurricane's defense and whatnot. hUh

" From ESPN stats: No team in the BCS era (since 1997) has won the BCS title without being ranked in preseason AP poll. Lowest ranked? No. 22 Auburn in 2010. " Suzie ' Q ' Degan

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Also, during the modern era of major college football ( 1970- 2013 ), absolutely NO squad has won a N.C. with a team defense RANKED LOWER than No.30, the previous season!! Bloody ouch.

In other words, as EVERY college pigskin bUbba knows. DEFENSE wins conference championships and national championships. Eh. What say.

Don't look now, but the two 50 yard td's that morris threw we got other receivers besides stacey, ryan williams found stacey, it was morris td's that went for over 50.

Yeah, Morris is back to his usual GUNSLINGER self and what not. hUh

With Miami's corps of speedy wide-outs, Stevie should surpass his passing T.D. total from last season.

Well, he better surpass-No pun intended= his touchdown totals. Because he and the rest of the offense have to probably carry the load another season. If U know what I mean. dUh

uR u Program the last 8 years wrapped up in a one sentence question ...

*** When was the last SEASON that u BEAT a RANKED opponent and didn't LOOOSE to an UNRANKED opponent in that SAME SEASON ? ***

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QuE ?


Probably the 2003 season, donNA. But then again, I could be wrong. hUh

What's more, if the state of Florida threw all its best players into one team, that team would win every year.

It's true: if you want to talk college football, you have to talk about Florida.

Posted by: LakeWorthCane | August 17, 2013 at 08:23 AM


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there would be 2-3 cane players that would even sniff the field if FSU-UF-u were combined.

The question of team defense strengths, and what not, and how it carries over to the next season.

The 2001 Ohio St. team defense as Exhibit No.1.

I mentioned earlier that NO team defense which was ranked LOWER than No.35 went on to play in a N.C. game. Let alone win a N.C.

Well, the Buckeyes finished 7-5 in 2001, and had an OVERAL TEAM DEFENSE, which was RANKED NO.25 in 2001!!!

The next season, 2002, Ohio St. met Miami in the B.C.S. national championship game.

2012 Miami team defense, NO.116 vs. 2001 Ohio St. defense, NO.25.

There are other glaring examples and what not. hUh

So, there's a reason why SUZY Q mentioned those trivial stats in her notes above. hUh

Now we cried about run defense no mention of that in the article so that must be looking better.


Posted by: cane4ever | August 17, 2013 at 10:33 AM

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wow, no mention of "that" in the article, so the run 'efense must be all shored up...

I mufukin swear, u beyondfuckingdumasse cane fans ought to be studied ...

Are you a dumb gro-ne? Just sayin' and all. hUh

Here is the boilerplate for all Calvina posts:

1. If it works, it was either an assistant coach's decision or the other team screwed up

2. If it doesn't work, it was Golden's fault.

As if Golden called the passes to Lockhart.

What a dope.

Additional factual evidence on the notion of overall team defense in major college football. hUh

Notre Dame's team defense as EXHIBIT NO. 2

Earlier I sagaciously pointed out on the improvement, from one season to the next, of a particular team defense, and any correlation of playing and or being a N.C. contender. duh

In 2011 the Celt's had a team defense which was RANKED NO. 30 at the conclusion of the season.

The Celts had a 8-5 record in 2011

The next season, 2012, Notre Dame's team defense was RANKED NO.7 by season's end.

And the Druidic Celt's played in the national championship game. dUh

So, I suggest y'all BRAINWASHED Cane loyalist do the simple math regarding team defense, and the LIKELIHOOD of Miami playing in an A.C.C. championship game, or becoming a LEGITIMATE Top 15 squad this season.

so, u play Howard's recruited team in 12 days ...

Canes were 85th in 2012 defense which was pretty lousy. Need to be in top 1/2 this year.

Point well taken! I also said Miami's BELOVED d-coordinator was out of his league. When facing opposing B.C.S. offensive coordinators.

Yet, the usual ATTACKS and what not for spreading the truth about the Hurricanes D-coordinator.

Again, MIGHTY f.a.u's offensive players and coaches are very, very, very EAGER to face Miami's defense!!

So beware Cane bUbba's, because the Hoot, Hoot Owls are absolutely NOT in AWE of the Hurricane's defense and whatnot. hUh

Posted by: D | August 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM
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The sad thing is, those who claim to be UM fans would know that we intimidated all of college football was not because of our offenses, but because we took the hope and life out of teams with smothering defenses. This defensive scheme doesn't smother anybody, it retreats, going up against a team like FAU, are we going to play press-man against them but come next week against the gaytors we're going to back to playing prevent defense, this is what is also meant by this is "a coward's scheme".

I'm still trying to understand what's the purpose of lining up that far back on receivers, but than when we do line up in what looks like press-man, we don't even jam the wide-outs, we just turn and start running sideways looking back and all the underneath routes keep getting completed and everybody is looking at everybody trying to figure out who's man that is or how did he get there. Anyway, i could careless what type of defensive ranking we have, this scheme is to soft on the back-end for me, and the front end to as well.

Relies to much on guys being in a stand-up positionand keep in mind, if you got runningbacks who are excellent blockers like we had when soldinger was here, that also nullifies the 3-4 defense as well. The 4-3 relies more on athleticism which is why the 4-3 defense is a way more consistent and dominating style of defense where as the 3-4 relies more on power and deception which is why it's a defense that's not as consistently dominant, especially when it comes up on a team that has a qb tht can read defenses quickly and has the receivers to get open.

Also what i don't like about the 3-4. there normally 8 people back in coverage and guys are still getting open, why, because everybody is running backwards sideways, but they all got great "eye discipline" so at least they all see the completion at the same time.

Great to read how Coley and Morrison are developing a rhythm and also the significant improvement by Ryan Williams.

Our wildly improving defense facing possibly the #1 offense in the country everyday at practice will pay great dividends during the season. We have added size, speed and athleticism to our defense. Coupling that with our great coaching staff and this year's defense will play championship football.

As for the rankings, over the last 35 years no matter how great are teams have been we get screwed in the rankings.

Seeing that a bloody canespace person has entered the M-H. I see where the VAST MAJORITY of canespace bUbba's are bloody well BACK TRACKING on their team defense touts and what not.

First, Hurricane partisan was woofing a NO. 50 defense for their beloved Canes. hUh

Then, it was Miami loyalist blabbering a NO. 35 team defense, or higher. Eh. What say.

Now, canespace bUbba's be shouting a team defense anywhere between No.45-No.60. Go bloody figure!!

Nonetheless, a NO.45 overall team defense bloody WON'T get Miami near Charlotte, Carolina. Get outta' here's, outsider!!

D,

Unlike you and the other parts of the Sybil head, real Canes fans have different opinions.

Ur too afraid to put down a prediction, wimp.

One things for sure, smo17's interceptions may be going up this year if we keep trying to get him to read the short middle of the field. Those were alot of the plays jedd fisch just took out last year because smo17 had a hard time picking up the linebackers, i don't think james coley is going to got that route in will put more of the onus back on smo17's shoulders, this will be interesting.

I'm also interested in seeing how danny dilliard progresses, he needs to get touches out there for sure. james coley understands down and distance a whole lot better than what jedd brought. jedd would go with to many high risk high reward type plays on 3rd and short, instead of just picking up the 1st down. You don't take the threat of the run away on 3rd and short or after 1st and a big gain on a running play, those were the type of formations jedd would put us in to many times after great gains, so the philosophy will be changed in that regard to the offensive approach this year which will allows us to become a more consistent offense, but i do expect the interceptions to go up from last year for smo17.

Also, this just in, a strong offense doesn't make a defense better in this case because we're running a defense that's plays a shell coverage the majority of the time. Now had we been playing a True 4-3 base press-man defense i could go with some of that a lil bit but see clemson & west Virginia for starters when it comes to teams with real good offenses, not having defenses.

Also, if that was the case, our defense should've steadily have improved as the season went on last year, instead, the last game of the year, 45 points given up plus over 500yards of offense.


Also what i don't like about the 3-4. there normally 8 people back in coverage and guys are still getting open, why, because everybody is running backwards sideways, but they all got great "eye discipline" so at least they all see the completion at the same time.


Posted by: Calvin | August 17, 2013 at 01:40 PM

Talk about your Different Kinda' " Chinaman fire drill. " hUh

D,

Man, I feel badly for some of the things I've posted on this blog about you, because after reading your latest gibberish it is clear you suffer from a severe learning disorder.

Also just because you have a high ranking on defense doesn't mean that team is actually a good defense, especially when it comes to the scheme being ran. See notre shame against Bama's offense. Also, while Bama has a strong defense, there defense is not as strong as people like to make it out to be either, notre shame didn't have an offense, so they didn't get tested that much but notre shame did move the ball on them.

One of the things i liked about jedd fisch though, he didn't care who the opponent was, at some point he was going to try and attack them for the home-run. This is the heart i'm looking for from james coley as well, no matter who the team is, and if the gaytors are going to play us in man-coverage the majority of the game, than i'm sure james coley is going to like our chances with those match-ups. Especially if james coley is going to be in the booth which is where oach OH-NO needs to be if he actually plans on improving as a coorinator!


One things for sure, smo17's interceptions may be going up this year if we keep trying to get him to read the short middle of the field. Those were alot of the plays jedd fisch just took out last year because smo17 had a hard time picking up the linebackers, i don't think james coley is going to got that route in will put more of the onus back on smo17's shoulders, this will be interesting.

Posted by: Calvin | August 17, 2013 at 01:51 PM

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It's funny, but RON ZOOK aka Sarasota Cane and like-minded Hurricane loyalists WANT Stevie to make/attempt MORE short-field, crossing-route passes. Go figure.

U, also, need a fine, wine TOUCH to complete those short-field type of passes. hUh

" ### Former Wisconsin defensive end David Gilbert has displayed quickness off the edge in his first week of practice. He might begin his UM career as a pass rush specialist initially, but it wouldn't be surprising if he eventually challenges Shayon Green for a starting job. Green is valued more by UM coaches than by many fans, who are understandably troubled by the fact he didn’t have a single sack last season. " BARRY JACKSON, M-H
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I bloody well touted that DE Gilbert would be the D-line's MVP this season.

And I'm bloody sticking to my forecast. Eh. What say.

Again, I don't think Hurricane zealots truly understand how EDGY, QUICK this Gilbert is off the edges. hUh

Chit, and the man only been practicing with the squad for two days, and getting some love already from Jackson and moi.

I wonder why Miami's D-coordinator is OFF LIMITS to the Cane scribes, and what not, again.

Miami 48

F.A.U. 13

Over/Under be - 58 1/2

Hurricanes - 32 1/2 chalk

Bon jour et Bonsoir

I am optimistic about this year, but let's not get carried away with NC talk. I would be satisfied with 9 wins and a persistent presence in the mid teens in the polls.That would be a HUGE upgrade from the last 6 to 7 years.

Wow.. talk to yourself much? Funny how hard you work at making your personas different. Pick a name and stick to it you transparent fool.

Some dumbazz cane haters in here. The Irish top notch D got smashed so did Florida Hators D. Why is it that not of u coach D1 of the pros. Simple u don't know crap. Cookman has zero star players but the players come to play and they execute.

And jackazz Cab. If tgey got beat deep the box was stacked and some blew an assignment. They didn't report on any big runs from the nations best back so they must doing something right in the run department. Dumb ignorant beech. September 7 will clot ur little red bleeder chump.

Stephen Morris walked away from Mannings camp out performing all of your highly rated schools from ur highly overated teams

All I got to say to you Gator trolls is how many undefeated seasons do you guys have? .......... I'll wait

And all you people ragging on Coach D, look at his Temple teams they improved on D every year. The Canes will be a top 40 Defense this year. Coach D didn't have the right talent for his schemes. But he's starting to stack some talent and Miami will start to transition to a 3-4 multiple scheme.
As soon as the pass rush returns Miami will be deadly in Coach D's scheme. Haters beware.

Some of you all are in panic mode!
The problem with are defense now is they are playing against a " GREAT OFFENSE " Yes Great!
Probly the best offense in the country>

best QB , best RB, "duke" , best group of recievers,
best O-line, best tight ends, no body is gonna be able to stop us this year.. As long as the coaches keep their foot on the throttle dont let up!
Thats why the defense is getting burned for bombs ,, did yall forget our Qb launched a 65 yard strike to dorsett in a 500+ performance..... Please every body defense is gonna look like chease against us this year . PERIOD! The D is super improved idiots man its gone be ugly ................. yeah the coaches can screw it up lets cross our fingers canes.... for good coaching schemes >>>>> yeah canes

Odd, with modern offenses, more NFL teams playing the 3-4. Off course, they don't know as much as the Sybil group.

The same comments from the same people every day. Calvin.D. and that other idiot seriously need to get a life. It just shows how boring it is in Gaynesville. BORING

Same comments every day, if a recruit chooses somewhere else its my fault, if somebody drops a pass or doesn't make a tackle its my fault. Where is my credit for having one of the best offenses in the country with all these 2 star recruits you gaytors keep talking about.

Palmbeachliving, so, Coach D's scheme has no responsibility of encompassing or producing a pass rush? it just has to come--somehow--when the players decide to get to the QB?

The D-line is being told to hold the point of attack and not rush the passer. So when is this pass rush supposed to return? Luther Robinson gets benched and stay in the doghouse for playing old school Cane defense and getting pressure.

kamonra, are u saying that our team is stacked with adequate if not super talent this season? Are you saying that this season's results are then dependent upon the coaches schemes?

mountaincane: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1043/p2
UM ranked 82nd in scoring defense at 30.50

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1042/p3
UM ranked 116th in total defense

Both stats are horrible, time to move on. Rankings, Sybil, rankings, Sybil, make prediction, rankings, Sybil, Calvina, Calvina, Calvina, prediction, rankings, and Sybils-whatever that is--every single post...

The same comments from the same people every day. Calvin.D. and that other idiot seriously need to get a life. It just shows how boring it is in Gaynesville. BORING

Posted by: lisa | August 17, 2013 at 03:09 PM

^^^and this post isn't a daily occurrence as well? Talk football then, spark a discussion--don't just type a complaint. You are just as boring.

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Said reenactment shows one of Tubman’s friends, a fellow slave, hiding in the closet in order to capture Tubman seducing her master. “All these years I’ve been acting like I didn’t enjoy our special time together,” Tubman says. The pair then has sex and afterwards Harriet’s master confesses his love for her, while she brushes him off.


Harriet, give up the I'm not one of the members of the sybil pea brain routine. That is really b o r i n g.

LOL! And? Whats your point? In the movie, did she still have an opportunity to free slaves of men, like you?

Actually, I think you're a member of this "Sybil" group we all know you created (the name at least). I mean it is the only thing you post about--you're only motivation. This Sybil group justifies and qualifies your very existence on this blog. Fake adversarial relationship, good vs evil. You must be a comic book head lol. Now thats truly boring especially at 50.

Nice attempted deflection, Harriet but incomplete.

Real Canes fans offer their views and deal with the good and the bad. the Sybil group deals with the embellished bad, eg, the fake defense stats, and just outright lies.

Man who cares....its football season.

One of two things are gonna happen:

The Canes will ball out and win better then 10 games and get to the ACC Championship

or

It will be the same ol same ol and we will be stuck listening to the haters for another year.

I'm praying for the latter. Win and they shut up...lose and they flap their gums.

Wow!!!!!

Do you all read your posts!!!!

Man there are going to be some folks eating some serious crow at some point...

We all know we have a much better than average Offense.

We all know we have some grave concerns about the Defense.

We all know that the players on the Defense have more experiance, are bigger, stronger, and faster.

We all expect they will be better than last year...how much that is TBD.

Lets see what happens with the Florida Game.

At leaset it is early in the season and should be a very good indication of where the Universtity of Miami is at.

Until then...STFU!

If all you got is the same old negative crap...keep it to your self!

Obviously!!!!

It's A Cane Thing!

Bleeding Green, Orange & White!

Relies to much on guys being in a stand-up positionand keep in mind, if you got runningbacks who are excellent blockers like we had when soldinger was here, that also nullifies the 3-4 defense as well."

Calvin,

I have to disagree with you here, If I'm a d-coordinator I'll take my chance with your running back having to block my rushing linebacker any and every down, no matter how good of a blocker he is. In Pittsburg their scheme is designed to cause these type of mis-matches. But again they have always had dominant outside backers (we don't).

"The 4-3 relies more on athleticism which is why the 4-3 defense is a way more consistent and dominating style of defense where as the 3-4 relies more on power and deception which is why it's a defense that's not as consistently dominant, especially when it comes up on a team that has a qb tht can read defenses quickly and has the receivers to get open"

In terms of having more athletes on the field, the 3-4 allows you that oppurtunity. Think about it you are taking a d-lineman off the field and adding another lb. Yes the inside backers in this defense aren't as athletic as 4-3 middle linbackers.

Overall the key to the 3-4 defense is having strong point of attack d-tackles that can keep the inside backers clean. Some outside backers that can rush the passer and set the edge in the run game. But what takes it to another level is having a strong athletic safety that can cover the slot(like Bush).

You are correct the 3-4 relies on disguise but it can and is dominant when it's ran properly. The New York Giants played a 3-4 with the greatest outside linebacker of all-time (LT). Also the Saints were dominant with the Dome Patrol with Sam Mills, Pat Swilling and crew. Not too mention the dominant defenses the Steelers have had.

Now this (D'No's) version of the 3-4, I'm not sure what were trying to do. What are we trying to take away?

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