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Quick hits from Miami Hurricanes Tuesday practice

Another sweltering, extremely humid practice at Greentree Field Tuesday morning:

** According to a couple of defensive players (LB Jimmy Gaines and CB Antonio Crawford), the offense won the scrimmage Sunday. Gaines didn't seem too pleased. Coach Al Golden said the defense had been holding its own, actually dominating a few days during practice last week.

** Golden also happy to have new D-linemen Justin Renfrow (tackle) and David Gilbert (end) and Ufomba Kamalu (end). The roster lists Kamalu as a junior.

** Sophomore safety Deon Bush (rehabbing after hernia surgery) was upgraded from his previous red, non-contact jersey to a yellow, limited-contact jersey. He is closer to getting on the field. The Canes need him.

** This kid (big kid!) Al-Quadin Muhammad is obviously a talent. Players and coaches (Golden and D'Onofrio) have extolled his virtues -- such as pass-rushing. 

** Others lauded by coaches for scrimmage play: K Matt Goudis, Olsen Pierre (he's playing defensive tackle), RB Eduardo Clements, CB Artie Burns, DE Tyriq McCord, Jermaine Grace, Anthony Chickillo, Alex Figueroa, CB Tracy Howard (he's back in first-team black today). 

** Freshman offensive tackle Sunny Odogwu was not at practice. He came into camp rehabbing from foot surgery, which I was told was minor. But not really certain on the minor part.

SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN

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Well, just another day of Hyperbole, rhetoric, and gas-baggery here on the blog......and that's just from the trolls, lol....and you know who you are.

Please, for the love of God, get lives, beacuse there HAS to be more to your lives than just writing PATHETIC retorts, day after day, to insignificant aspects of the past regarding this football program(again, you know who you are).

Sadly, you won't(get a life), and again, sadly, you'll just keep making yourselves look desperate, hiding behind you keyboards and monitors. Too bad, you probably have so much more to offer the REAL world.

Hi Manny and Susan!

Have you thought at all about turning off the comments section on this blog or requiring a log in? It really is brutal to have such horrible discourse on the UM sports blog in the Miami Herald.

In print, we have carefully articulated viewpoints, signed by the author. Online, anonymous posts often devolve into a volley of name-calling.

These caustic comments would never be printed in The Miami Herald. We believe they shouldn’t appear on our website.

Beginning Monday, readers who want to comment on stories posted on MiamiHerald.com will be required to log in using a Facebook account. We believe that anyone who has something to say should be willing to put their name to it.

For years, we have wrestled with this dilemma. Tens of thousands of users comment on our online stories each year, a virtual town hall that at its best creates robust community conversations on important issues. Too often, however, the rational voices are scared off. It is one of the complaints we most often hear about our website.

We have used several different commenting systems over the years in an attempt to create a safe space for readers to engage. We also aggressively monitor the posts to weed out the spoilers. However, those intent on using that space like a blank wall for verbal graffiti continue to outpace our ability to clean up in their wake. They create another alias.

On Facebook, most people use their true identities and many of our readers already have existing accounts. Already, a quarter of our commenters use Facebook to log in. Readers who don’t have an account can create one for free.

...On the non-annoying side, without sounding too redundant, we'll see about this team soon enough, no matter who is wearing a black, yellow, red, or white jersey in practice.

Hi Manny and Susan, have you thought at all about turning off the comments section on this blog or requiring a log in? It really is a shame to have this kind of discourse on the UM sports blog in the Miami Herald.

"In print, we have carefully articulated viewpoints, signed by the author. Online, anonymous posts often devolve into a volley of name-calling.

These caustic comments would never be printed in The Miami Herald. We believe they shouldn’t appear on our website.

Beginning Monday, readers who want to comment on stories posted on MiamiHerald.com will be required to log in using a Facebook account. We believe that anyone who has something to say should be willing to put their name to it.

For years, we have wrestled with this dilemma. Tens of thousands of users comment on our online stories each year, a virtual town hall that at its best creates robust community conversations on important issues. Too often, however, the rational voices are scared off. It is one of the complaints we most often hear about our website.

We have used several different commenting systems over the years in an attempt to create a safe space for readers to engage. We also aggressively monitor the posts to weed out the spoilers. However, those intent on using that space like a blank wall for verbal graffiti continue to outpace our ability to clean up in their wake. They create another alias.

On Facebook, most people use their true identities and many of our readers already have existing accounts. Already, a quarter of our commenters use Facebook to log in. Readers who don’t have an account can create one for free."

Not everyone has Facebook or wants to log in to post a comment. The better solution would be to monitor the blog and delete posts from trolls.

It really is time for the comments section to be changed. When it does I will rejoice with the fact that the likes of Calvin, Gallo & "D" Head will be gone for good.

Posted by: Mase | August 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Whatever!!

It's just too bad that Y-O-U never offer any opinions of YOUR own about this season's Hurricanes. hUh

Now get back to canespace/eoth where bloody censorship is en vogue. Eh. What say.

I swear to you, Annie's uterus was literally dangling between her legs. She likes getting plowed by the dark meat. Just google Annie Body and you'll see for yourself. For the life of me I don't see how OGV can climb up on that beak nosed ho

Posted by: Mase | August 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever!

It's just too bad that Y-O-U never offer any opinions about the Hurricanes entering the 2013 season and what not. hUh

Now get back to canespace/eoth where censorship is en vogue. Eh. What say.


The better solution would be to monitor the blog and delete posts from trolls.

Posted by: Sunny Dee | August 13, 2013 at 11:12 AM

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Then the M-H Hurricane football forum BECOMES another canespace/eoth, and that means Cane MOB RULES. Which would lead to dissenting opinions being CHIT-CANNED and what not.

Nah, I believe this particular M-H Cane football forum adheres to " free speech " rights and what not. Albeit there should be RESPONSIBILTY when offering a notion about Miami's QUESTIONABLE d-coordinator.

By the way, this particular minion, Posted by: Canes 35 Gators 17, and his ILK seem to always attack, attack, and attack other intelligent, open-minded, free thinking opinions and what not. hUh

Letter to the editor:

Facebook would not control or censor this blog.

The gist of the blog is to have accessability.

Do what we all do.
Skip the nonsense and selectively read and respond to who or what you would like.

How about those posters who have twitter, or other accounts. Being forced to sign up for Facebook just to retort or comment makes no sense.

Selective commentary is the way to go. I agree if the posts are outlandish then take it down.

I might not agree with a post, but do not restrict the choice of commenting or response.
Go 'Canes

As the Miami Herald explained in changing their policy, requiring a Facebook login completely eliminates the childish and mean-spirited trolling.

The people who post on this blog are so ashamed of themselves they don't even stick to a fake name, they would be mortified if anyone who knew them knew what they spent their time doing.

Non-participants beginning the day predicting negativity, but not self-aware that they are beginning the day with negativity. complaining and writing the editor about trolls (one UF fan does exist--a posts under several names that the regulars are aware of), but purposely go onto lump every other anonymous ID of Canes fans who have any critique of our coaching staff into the troll category--despite the fact that all of the blind-following/critical-thinking deficient Canes fans use anonymous ID's as well lol (hypocrites).

None of us non-pageantry Canes fans are UF fans, the same person, trolls, or any other excuse you want to use to ignore/discredit the relevance and truth of our posts about our football team. The truth is something you have to deal with in life, you can't just label it something and put it on the shelf. Once you all respect the argument and cease from labeling and responding to it with Shannon retorts (irrelevant), racists slurs/projections, insults--like you a UF fan???, the labeling of troll, and saying that we're all one person--because you don't want to believe that more than one person understands that we all are being shortchanged right now--you need to believe that you're In GOLD we trust ideology is the majority and its not. Then, and only then, will the back and forth cease. no one insults or labels a poster for saying Go Canes or supporting this team. The back and forth didn't begin with that, it began with the constant over the top reactions to any and every postmaster who questions are coaching staff in the least. As if a fan doesn't have the right to do so??? Coaching talk is football talk, scheme-talk is football talk, Golden and No'D are Canes football talk.

So writing editors to force someone to sign-in their name is not going to prevent you from reading somethings that you don't agree with. Thats the true issue--you want to come here and read (not post or add anything to the discussion-except complaints of course) like minded group-think posts all day. A name doesn't prevent a dissenting opinion.

Here's proof: my name is Zakkee, I've been a die-hard Cane fan since 1987, and been blogging about my team since the old Omar Kelly days at the Sun-Sentinel (2004), then to Canespace, EOTH, and here off and on the whole time as Zakkee as well. Calvin was on the Sun-sentinel before me and has been a Canes fan before most if not all of you distractors of him. He's more Cane than you will ever be--blog OG status--if it exists lol! HarrietTubmanCane uses the symbolism of freeing slaves mentally now of course. I believe we are being hoodwinked and sold short by the UM administration headed by Donna Shalala--the only constant thee last ten years of misery--and from the school of Tad Foote-put UM football on the back-burner.

I believe that we have money for a big-time coach, and no one can prove that we don't. The administration has placed our football program on probation by keeping us on a budget that compete with the powers of college football and the loyalty, passion and commitment their boards. presidents, and funders make to the success of their football teams. While we are in-fighting, they continue to make money off of our allegiance like a bad land-lord won't fix nothing, and actually the root of the problem). Coker, Alverage, No'D, and almost all the laughable coordinators since: Patrick Nix, Whipple etc.. are all budget hires.

I understand this corporate philosophy of "pay less but hope to produce more", because I'm from Cleveland and my cities sports team owners have a long history of apply this method. Us Clevelanders are our own worst enemies because we blindly any team the Tribe, Browns or Cavs field. All of their games are sold-out every year despite the reality that management hasn't put the right funding in to produce a contender for us. Nevertheless, we continue to come out in droves of hope and despair every year to eventually lose. thats the predicament e are in now, so stop attacking awake/conscious Canes fans who understand this situation. Golden is a example of less for more (in hopes of more) they want him to overachieve with less. This will un doubtedly lead to 7-5, 9-3, 8-4, season's for us until we wake up, stop infighting and call a spade a spade.

The administration is cool with us winning a championship of course, that would definitely mean that the model worked, but they don't expect one. They expect/require/project our team to be just good enough to keep us fans hopes up every year with Alverage win totals in a weak conference, at best playing for a conference championship every year and playing in a BCS bowl game. Overachieve and make our back and more with less.

The problem is that Golden can't out coach the other ACC coaches, they're schemes are superior to his 8 years of coaching prowess despite our dramatic superiority talent-wise to 85% of our schedule since he has been here. Its always the player's fault, NCAA-that he admits hasn't not even met or spoken to him--so how doers he get so much credit for handling a situation that he admittedly doesn't handle???? We have self-imposed all sanctions literally and figuratively. NCAA aint did sh%t but talk sh*%. The administration and lawyer are handling that money transaction called investigation, it hasn't affected his coaching prowess and none of those kids are here anymore, so stop with the excuses.

Stop being Stephen (Samuel L. Jackson) from Django.

"...you all need to hate each other.." -DiCaprio's character

I forgot Shannon as a budget hire as well.


Selective commentary is the way to go. I agree if the posts are outlandish then take it down.

I might not agree with a post, but do not restrict the choice of commenting or response.
Go 'Canes

Posted by: UGoCane | August 13, 2013 at 12:04 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, what your suggestions are leading to is ANOTHER canespace/eoth. Where any and all DISSENTING opinions are CHIT-CANNED/deleted from those particular blogs.

For instance, there's a MIAMI GRADUATE who posts at one of the latter-mentioned Cane forums, and he's constantly attacked, and threatened for posting SOUND, TRUE and INSIGHTFUL notions about Miami's defense. hUh

In other words, Cane partisans DON'T wanna' accept the FACTS about the Canes defense entering the season.

So all these Hurricane bUbba's have as REBUTTAL's is attacking and seeking excuses to Chit-Can the TRUTH's about a suspect team defense.

^^^You are inept (no skill) and inadequate^^^ Your brain cannot produce a sensible response/thought other than insults. You are a good boy Stephen--modern day slave--protect your man master at all costs lol!

By the way, the loyalists at canespace are absolutely claiming that Miami will be a TOP 35 defense this season.

And if a Hurricane fan happens to disagree. He is CHIT-CANNED from that site and or PRESSURED to blog about Miami football at another forum.

No sir, the M-H cane football forum DOESN'T need to DE-volve into those other two sites!!

And yes, just ignore the B-A-S-E commentary from the GOONS! SEE soldy and his MINIONS!!

Letter to the editor--though I can agree we do get more than our fair share of caustic comments, I do not agree that using Facebook is the answer. The Miami Herald needs to build it's own method of authenticating posters here on this website. Many of us refuse to use Facebook in any fashion and ultimately, guys like yourself want all opposing points of view silenced anyways. Some of the "verbal graffiti" you disagree with is the very reason this post board is so popular to begin with. Maybe you should stop coming here.

" Coker, Alverage, No'D, and almost all the laughable coordinators since: Patrick Nix, Whipple etc.. are all budget hires. " H.T.CANE

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Absolutely true in it's notion and what not.

However, I may be mistaken but didn't the vast majority of the Hurricane players elect Coach Coker. After Davis left the Hurricanes.

HarrietTubmanCane, you're flat out wrong about UM's financial situation.

Al Golden makes over $2M and it's thought that his extension put him between Muschamp and Fisher.

His coordinators all have competitive salaries, the OC is making what he made at FSU.

UM's new athletic center cost more than Alabama's new athletic center.

More importantly, none of that matters. UM has won national championships with no money for coaches, no facilities, and a president who actively wanted the program to not win.

As to Golden and the coaching staff - there's a discussion to be had about them, but not here. This blog is a cesspool of name changing trolls, Calvin is not the problem, he and the other UM fan regulars would still log in and talk about UM football.

The Gators trolls would not.

" This will un doubtedly lead to 7-5, 9-3, 8-4, season's for us until we wake up, stop infighting and call a spade a spade. " HARRIETTUBMANCANE
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Seriously LOL!!

Chit, I've been moaning and groaning since the conclusion of Goldie's first season, that Miami would have those prestigious 8-4 or 9-3 winning seasons!!

Matter of fact, even with a special, special teams and a possible Top 20 offense this season. The Hurricanes still will finish with a 9-3 season in 2013. hUh

Oh, one more notion to consider Cane partisan. There's something about a head coach, when HE DON'T fire his defensive coordinator, after his defense ends up NO.116 in major college football!


HarrietTubmanCane, you're flat out wrong about UM's financial situation.


Posted by: Letter to the editor | August 13, 2013 at 01:00 PM

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Perhaps he is mistaken and what not.

Yet, the University of Miami, Florida Hurricane football program had MUCH DIFFICULTY, in their hiring another successor after Randy Shannon was dismissed.

Matter of fact, FOUR " named " head coaches turned down Miami, and I absolute believe FINANCIAL matters were one of the reasons, among others. hUh

They were 85th D, and you know it.

Still lousy, so why lie?

Yea they did D, because he was a familiar and happy go lucky face that wouldn't dare discipline them (like a grandpa). That didn't know that he was inadequate in so many other areas (player evaluation, adjustments etc..) outside of calling offensive plays.

It made sense for the administration to listen to the kids because Coker was a cheap hire and his presence kept that continuity needed after the sudden departure of our coach. They didn't want the kids to follow suit (and leave--remember Romberg's interview after butch left?--he was about to bounce if it wasn't Coker or another in-program hire). It amounted to cheap damage control to the UM administration. Win/Win solution. Just because the kids wanted to Coker, doesn't mean the administration had to go with him--the decision of Coker, made monetary/budget and in-house political sense. That returning team was undoubtedly gonna win the 2001 championship no matter who the coach was--it made sense to give them who they wanted--not to mention that who they wanted couldn't ask for much money for the opportunity to drive a Lambo.

Editor, I'm glad to be flat out wrong if I am about finances since I'm not close to the situation of course, but doesn't that only leave Golden's prowess or lack there of as the issue at hand then? I was actually deflecting the blame from him to his bosses, despite the fact that his pay doesn't matter because he is an inferior coach to his contemporaries/peers--and thats a problem associated with the administration in itself (picking inadequate coaches to lead our team). Where can we have a discussion about the coaching staff, since this isn't the place for it? I agree about the Gator trolls, but I'm not loggin into facebook to post--I don 't know anything about social media outside of blogging about the Canes.

Who besides Gruden turned down overtures from UM?

In the last ten years: Dirk Koetter, Marc Trestman, Greg Shiano, and a black coach who was an assistant for the Packers before Shannon was hired. Can't remember his name.

D said 4 coaches turned down UM when they were looking for a coach, Gruden said he wasn't interested in coaching period (NFL, college, or UM) and those other four you named weren't interviewed for the UM job after Shannon was fired and didn't say that they were not interested in Miami.

Zakkee, you as much as anyone should know how Miami operates when hiring head coaches. Miami has always went with the up and comer over an established name.


Howard was a lifelong assistant ,other than the Baltimore job which he failed miserably at, that had never been a college head coach when hired.

Jimmy had a career record of 29-25 @ OK State when he was hired.

Dennis was a combined 50-31 while @ Idaho, Wyoming, and Washington State before getting the gig at UM.

Butch had no head coaching experience when he was hired.

Golden is starting his third season at UM under some less than stellar circumstances. Has he done everything perfect? Far from it. But he learns from his mistakes and if you can't see the program is trending upward then i don't know what to tell you.

I'm sure you remember the banner that was flown over the OB in 1997..."From champs to chumps thanks,Butch"

Those same people prematurely calling for his head were more than likely crying the loudest when he bolted for the Browns 3 years later.

The Gator cowards are so desperate for their superior big brothers approval they feel compelled to post a couple of commitments on our Miami Hurricane blog like it is huge news. Hell, one of the kids they signed we wouldn't even offer a schollie and the other kid went with the cowards, because he knew he could start there as freshmen and wouldn't start for the Canes until he was a junior, because we are so talent rich in the receiving corp. The kid was afraid of the competition, which means he's qualified to be a cowardly gator through and through.

They didn't say it to you or the media, but they all turned down UM at some point, and partly over money. Its the main reason Butch left and won't come back--we cheap and aren't committed to winning for real. They want something for nothing. And keep us addicted with "process" talk, rebuilding every year, claiming cupboards were left bare by old coaches, cowering to the NCAA, claiming a fence around the "State of Miami" when we secure our B and C level talent every year. Everyone isn't caught up in Unity Council, "they gained weight", "we purged the roster", UTough grips and other smokescreen tactics to keep our allegiance$, instead of providing substance and results.

The expectations and burden of proof are purposely always set with the players.

What ACC coach(es) is Golden and No'D superior to coaching-wise?

. Its the main reason Butch left and won't come back-

LMFAO......Hard to compete with NFL money and Butch would jump at the chance to come back and coach UM.

You said all those coaches "turned UM down" before Shannon was hired.

D was talking about coaches that turned UM down before Al Golden was hired.

Al Golden is fairly paid, between Muschamp and Fisher's salaries, over $2M a year. So to claim that UM isn't financially competitive is nonsense.

He's in his third year, for you to ask which ACC coaches Golden is superior to is nonsensical. Could all or none of them, time will tell.

So is a kid commits to UF, he's a coward, but if if commits to us he's a courageous.

So what was Ramon Buchanon who committed to UF, then switched to us? Being cowardly is not a deficiency that one can overcome or embody in a year or some months. Maybe Wilson had already let our staff no that they didn't have a chance with him, so he wasn't offered. It definitely wasn't that we didn't want or need him, check his highlights, size and speed, plus his grades are right--so don't make up stuff thats nonsensical to appease what you know is true. maybe he didn't want to play for Us. Maybe him, Lammons, and Lane believe that UF (as bad as it sounds) can develop them better than our coaching staff.

Whose backfield is more stocked with competition on defense? Ours--not! Purifoy, Watkins, Hargreaves, Roberson and Poole are way better than our CB's---thats not even debatable. And why would they fear Tracy Howard? He didn't tear the conference up last year. Who are they afraid to compete with? Dortch, Crawford, Hope, Gunter, and they're just as good as Burns--so what/who are they afraid of???

Losing? Being dumbed down by D'No? Cuz it aint competition--just to keep it funky.

How is that point nonsensical when we have 2 full season's of proof and footage to ascertain an opinion or answer? Has time not told? Or do you want to reference some built-in excuse that the proof bearer has provided you. Two years isn't long enough to form an opinion about coaching strategy success or prowess??

Some colleges are competing with NFL money. I believe Butch was run out behind the scenes. And you can laugh if you want, but that opinion is just like your opinion that Butch would jump to the chance to come back--they are both unfounded opinions. LOL and LMAO doesn't make your comment a fact...lol!

We are cheap and playing broke.

Al Golden is in his 8th season as a head coach, 3rd here at UM. A point that Calvin always brings up and everyone always ignores or refuses to admit/consider.

His strategy, adjustments, game day coaching, and X's and O's game didn't begin with Us. It should be primed and effective by now.

Zakkee, you as much as anyone should know how Miami operates when hiring head coaches. Miami has always went with the up and comer over an established name- The U

But when Calvin brings up or references old traditional ways of doing things like styles of play and coaching strategy--he is a moron. Does this practice guarantee a good hire? If not, then it should be tweaked. Actually I'm just going to stay focus on the constant who always flies over our radar while we struggle administratively (and on the football field) with transparency, oversight, accountability, defections (AD's, players and coaches), sanctions, bad coaching hires etc--Donna Shalala's name never comes into account. Golden may be cool, we need change at the top.

Harriet,

When you repeatedly say Miami has always went....

you sound like a Gator english major or a moron or both.

"Two years isn't long enough to form an opinion about coaching strategy success or prowess"

Its really not. It takes time to get kids that fit your scheme and teach it.

"We are cheap and playing broke"

Also an opinion as UM is a private school and you do not know the exact salaries because Miami does not have to release that info. Are the brand new facilities cheap?

"Al Golden is in his 8th season as a head coach, 3rd here at UM"

And what he did at Temple was nothing short of a miracle whether you want to see it or not.

There's a reason Golden's name was mentioned for so many head coaching vacancies since hes been at Miami. People in the know realize what UM has in Golden.

Unfortunately, some of our impatient fan base fail to see it. Enjoy what he is building because soon you will be complaining when we don't win every game by 4 touchdowns. Then when he leaves for the pros you will call him a sellout.

Have you seen the roster moves he's made to shore up the D line? That's NFL stuff. Don't worry he'll be gone soon enough...

"Golden may be cool, we need change at the top"

Make up your mind....

Harriet,

When you repeatedly say Miami has always went....

you sound like a Gator english major or a moron or both.

Posted by: Mountain Cane | August 13, 2013 at 03:04 PM

U r so dumb LOL! That was a repost of a quote from "The U" towards me. Posted by: The []_[] | August 13, 2013 at 01:57 PM

Learn to follow the sequence of events (1st grade ish) before you speak. I am Zakkee and those were his words, so come up with another insult if there's anymore in that undersized melon of yours. Ask someone for a prediction again idiot.

Corporate minds love corporate players. golden was on everyone's list because he knows how to play and uphold their game. His 300 page plan that's superior to his ability to execute it. His orange tie, "process", "purgings", "no self-awareness or self-accountability, great head of hair, U Tough gimmicks, chiseled chin---all fodder for those who love getting in line aka Pageantry Canes.

Get caught up in the person's mystique--not his/her content or substance.

He is 13-11, in his 8th year as a head coach, and produced the worst defense in Hurricane history last year and said nothing will change.

Change at the top means Shalala. Whats wrong with being objective? I don't want Golden to fail and I don't want to blame him for anything when he's playing the game presented by his bosses. He isn't the main issue--so why should I berate him everyday while she walks? Its called self-awareness--I'm trying to practice it. I don't see the world in black and white.

d cavlina, and all the others who talk trash are just curse we all know it. I try to ignore them but it gets hard. Maybe they show what great trolls they are for some anonymous trolls on a troll site. Who knows its clear they aren't cane fans.

THIS IS GOLDEN'S CHANCE TO PUT HIS STAMP ON THIS PROGRAM!! BUT WHAT CONCERNS THE MAJORITY OF CANES FANS IS HIS CHOICE TO NOT MAKE CHANGES TO UPGRADE THE DEFENSE.. HAD HE BEEN AT ND.OHIO ST, ALABAMA OR FLA/FLA ST THE FANS WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT WITH THERE OPINIONS OF GETTING RID OF A DC WHOSE UNIT DID NOT PERFORM TO THERE LIKING. WHY SHOULD WE CANE FANS BE ANY DIFFERENT ?? WE ARE 5 TIME CHAMPIONS AND ARE ACCUSTOM TO WINNING ON THE FIELD. COACH LARRY COKER OR COACH SHANNON WOULD NOT UP WITH A DEFENSE PERFORMING THAT POOR.. THIS YEAR THAT SEEMS TO BE THE FANS ONLY CONCERN!! CAN THE DEFENSE IMPROVE GREATLY ?? WE WILL KNOW AFTER THE 1ST TWO GAMES IF THAT IS THE CASE FROM LAST YEAR!! IF THEY HAVE THEN EVERYONE KNOWS THE CANES CAN AND SHOULD MAKE SOME NOISE THIS YEAR. OTHER THAN TALKING ABOUT COACH SHANNON ALL THE TIME CALVIN MAKES THIS POINT AND GUESS WHAT ?? HE'S RIGHT!! THIS YEAR A 9-3 RECORD IS UNACCEPTABLE AND IF THAT BE THE CASE AND THE TEAM LOSES BOWL GAME I BELIEVE GOLDEN WALKS.. NEXT YEAR 2014 HE HAS PLENTY OF TALENT BUT THE SCHEDULE AND AN INEXPERIENCED QB WILL BE THE PROBLEM!! WIN THIS YEAR(10-2) OR BETTER AND ACC COASTAL OR ACC CHAMPIONSHIP AND GOLDEN'S STAMP WILL BE ON THIS PROGRAM HEADING TOWARD A NC.. THIS IS WHAT ALL CANE FANS SEEK AND SOME OF US DEMAND!! THIS IS THE U AND WE EXPECT CHAMPIONSHIPS NOT BS 7-5/6-6 AND THIS YEAR 9-3OR WORST!! NO EXCUSES!! GO CANES!!

Dysfunctional.

Facebook log in won't solve all of the problems but it will more than likely eliminate the ridiculous name calling and racial slurs. I highly doubt the regulars are going anywhere.. Gallo will still post long lists, cAlvin will still speak out both sides of his mouth (however he probably won't be calling white people cracka's or devils anymore), Dom will still be predicting undefeated seasons and anointing Golden as the next Messiah. I'll still call people out on their LIES and contradictions. Maybe it is time that people's words are put with a real name...

tk, i cant tell u what the some of the other schools u mentioned fan bases would be saying, but i do know that a lot of notre dame fans wanted kelley and his whole crew out before the year started and were still saying they didnt think he was the right guy for the job, not going the right direction, doesnt understand notre dame, ect. i dont really have a point i'm just sayin.

sorry i'm remedial. i meant a decent amount of them still wanted him out until 6th-7th game last year.

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