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Morris, Coley, Hurricanes offense working on hitting receivers, curveballs thrown at them

As good as the Hurricanes are feeling about being 2-0 and ranked in the Top 25 poll again, there was plenty of work to be had during the team's bye week last week and plenty more the team is focusing on heading into Saturday night's game against Savannah State.

Sure, the Tigers are 55-point underdogs -- maybe the ultimate FCS underdogs in college football with blowout losses to Florida State (55-0) and Oklahoma State (84-0) in recent years. But Miami wants to get better, especially on offense where new offensive coordinator James Coley is trying to get quarterback Stephen Morris and company back on track.

The focus since the team's win over the Gators has been improving the offense's third down conversion percentage, currently ranked 120th out of 123 FBS programs (5 of 25, 20 percent). Morris, meanwhile, ranks 89th in passing efficiency (115.3). A year ago he finished 50th (138.07 rating).

"This last week was all about communication with our players up front and in the perimeter, just understanding what different things can happen [on third downs]," Coley said. "Everybody early in the season has the wrinkles they do. Sometimes when you get some curveballs you have to be able to adjust."

One example of a curveball breaking down communication against Florida was when Morris threw a pass toward Dorsett he didn't even turn around and look for. The ball fell harmlessly to the ground. It was still the kind of mistake that not only frustrates fans, but coaches and players too.

"That's stuff we've been really focusing on in practice, giving them all the wrinkles [a defense might do] -- even if they don't do it," Coley said.

Aside from a few deep shots the Hurricanes took against Florida, Coley and Morris both said Miami's offense has been pretty conservative so far and has been holding back a lot of their playbook. Morris said against FAU, for instance, the team only ran variations on "three or four" plays the entire game.

"It was frustrating because the defense gets used to those same plays," Morris said. "For us, our biggest thing is, let's execute it. Obviously there are lot of things we haven't called and won't call for Savannah State and we'll hold off for other games, but our biggest thing is we have to execute what's being called."

Morris said regardless of who the Hurricanes are playing Saturday -- even a 55-point underdog, "championship teams don't care who they're playing."

"Going off my last two games there is a lot of things to improve on and work on," Morris continued. "That's the thing about it. We're only two games in. Let's take what we did in the bye week and continue to grow."

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> Coley said receivers Stacy Coley and Malcolm Lewis have responded well in practice over the past week.

"Stacy, it's a whole new language," Coley said. "He's coming in from high school, it's a whole new grind. He's got these classes he's taking, they're college level classes ... he's coming to practice and he's sore. The guy at the corner now is 200 pounds, not 165 like he saw in high school. So it's physical. What I saw from him is the push, he's really pushed himself. He's a smart kid, very instinctive.

"Malcolm, coming off that injury, his whole deal is being in condition to endure the entire practice. He's going to be sore at times. It's hey, you're running that route at 12 whether you're sore or you're tired."

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Great story on UM's defense:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1774703-how-the-miami-hurricanes-are-building-a-championship-defense

@Lt Einhorn

Thanks for the referral of the BR Story...I think they hit the nail on the head!

Bleeding Orange, Green & White!

Good stuff ... let's go canes

What we should do is just let BOOKER T. suit up this coming saturday in UM gear and play Savannah St., that way they shouldn't get beat by that much, maybe only 2 touchdowns.

Randy Shannon was the worst coach this school has ever had! Gallo and Calvin are clearly both black and they are defending the brotha. Typical. From their vantage point, it's always someone's else's fault except the black guy. No accountability.

Mr. Two Bits puts the A in UFag!!! That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen in college football!!!

Posted by: Gator, it's what's for dinner | September 16, 2013 at 04:20 PM


UFailure: we make a tradition out of idiocy.

Posted by: Doofus | September 16, 2013 at 04:22 PM


Gator, it's what's for dinner: You get one warning. Keep that kind of BS out of here.

Posted by: Jesse Simonton | September 16, 2013 at 07:00 PM


21-16 lol

Posted by: 21-16 | September 16, 2013 at 09:12 PM


Well, at least you are almost likley to score on that vaunted sec defense. Oregon just scored again! Aren't sec defenses supposed to be great? What happened to any of our teams could run the table in any conference? Bama has some long coattails.....keep ridin em

Posted by: 21-16 | September 16, 2013 at 09:18 PM


ACC is 3 - 1 against the SEC Least this year, now that is ownership.

Posted by: The U | September 16, 2013 at 09:31 PM


Da U!

Posted by: 21-16 | September 16, 2013 at 09:37 PM


Well, there is always next season to go undefeated.lol.

Posted by: 21-16 | September 16, 2013 at 09:39 PM


Does anyone know what "2 bits " are? $.25... thats cents! Who would've thought uf had the first 50 cent?

Posted by: 21-16 | September 16, 2013 at 09:43 PM

u will have this guy to thank.

I wonder if anyone will address this last post from Vos. Five Titles, Sunny Dee, Marios, MovingZen, IMAWriter, mahoney, and the other "even-keeled" poster who isn't black.

All black people don't believe in accountability. Look up the word racism--the belief that all members of a race possess a characteristics or (in)abilities specific to that race.

Dudes faked like they supported Shannon the whole time he was the coach, but since he has lost the job, its been total disrespect. As if he wasn't a part of 3 or 4 of our NC's as a player, grad assistant, and coach.

Why does it take a black fan to check a racist post like this^^^. Everyone can rally against Gallo and Calvin's skepticism for a 15-11 coaching staff. But there's routinely no backlash for posts of pure racism and disrespect for former Cane players and coaches. The best players on this team were Shannon recruits. He wasn't a great coach at all, but "garbage" is a stretch and unnecessary. It doesn't validate Golden in the least. If golde is so good, he'll be able to prove it in time, without throwing his Liberty City raised, all-time Cane great predecessor under the bus.

If Shannon was white, not one of U would feel the inclination to disrespect Shannon's legacy and commitment to Cane football in order to validate or provide a diversion to accountability for an incoming coach from outside the area. NOW THATS THE TRUTH.

Some of y'all aint to much different from those Gaytors y'all despise so much. They're just a little more covert about their feelings and your covert racists feelings aren't any less appalling because you've learned to mask them better. Its about whats in your heart, not how well U cover it.

Phoniness and deception aren't a virtues U can applaud yourselves for??

Vos, U embody exactly what U complain of. The pot calling the kettle black. Defame Shannon to validate Golden---thats weal and sad--Golden doesn't need that sort of crutch if he is worth his mettle.

Vos, your post is an attempt to relieve Golden of accountability as well. Only problem is...only blacks do that right? So what happened to U?

ONLY ONE Black head coach has EVER been rehired as a head coach in the history of college football LOL! And y'all sit-up and tai about Shannon's lack of opportunities as if this berserk statistic does't have anything to do with it. How many white coaches have had similar or records as Shannon's over the same time span, only to be rehired over and over?

One of them is a resident poster in Ron Zook. Hal Mumme, Skip Holtz, Gerry Faust, Paul Pasqualoni, John L. Smith, Bob Davie etc...etc..etc.

Jon Embree, Joker Phillips and RShannon all will never get another chance, they all were not successful--but its a fact that their lack of success is only part of the reason why they won't.

Shannon won the Broyles award in 2001, coaching and developing one of the best defenses in college football history. He fielded good defenses from 2001-2005 as our DC. The fact that he can't even get a second chance as a DC is an abomination. I mean, he was extremely successful in that role.

To be honest, I think the reason no one responds to a post like that is because the person is obviously either an idiot or a provocateur...why respond to ignorance?

"The words of the feeble-minded shall not distract the actions of those cloaked in the shroud of strength and self-respect."

Harriet, I don't see any black head coaches, pro or college, looking to hire Randy. I would like to see him coach linebackers, period.

Randy Shannon was and is one of the GREATEST CANES EVER. Its not a black white thing or should not be!!
Its a Cane Thang!!!
What color am I?

Posted by: 21-16 | September 16, 2013 at 09:43 PM
u will have this guy to thank.
Posted by: ... | September 16, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Please. Guy is posting a SCORE, you posted death threats to our black coaches and players.

Do NOT try to equate the two, sicko. And do NOT try to claim his SCOREBOARD calls equate to a right to return to your gatr persona, gallo. You will do it anyway, because you miss it, but give the REAL reason. You are an obsessed drooling slob in a trailer that moves from side to side when you move your bulk from the keyboard to the kitchen and then to the toilet.

Many reasonable Canes fans visited your page before and after the game, and got attacked senselessly by your jls persona. Yet no reasonable gatr fans came on here to congratulate us for the win. I think the Canes fans have shown far more class that you gatrs, troll.

"u will have this guy to thank.

Posted by: ... | September 16, 2013 at 11:16 PM"

Cane fans, the above post is from none other than what is now Zombie Soldy. Another threat.

I am sure you, like I, am terrified of this 50 year old maggot-minded loser. In the words of Semper Fi Cane, "The words of the feeble-minded (that'd be you, Zombie Soldy) shall not distract the actions of those cloaked in the shroud of strength and self-respect (Cane Nation)."

So, with all sincerity, I say suck it, Zombie Soldy, you maggot. Re-read my post from last week in response to your limp-wristed "mea culpa." In a phrase, "shove it."

Randy Shannon was and is one of the GREATEST CANES EVER. Its not a black white thing or should not be!!
Its a Cane Thang!!!
What color am I?

Posted by: Dave Stephens | September 17, 2013 at 08:13 AM
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Good post, alot of the people who claim to be UM fans disrespect some of the people who made UM what it is known for today. Alot of people don't realize the affect shannon had on the culture of what is known as UM football, from film study, to pushing guys to their max and forcing them to be first round picks, to being one of the feared leaders amongst many leaders on the team, shannon was one of the main ones that always had say so and whether guys listened to him or not they didn't disagree with him to much and than later on found out he was right.

People who like to try and label shannon as being the worst headcoach at UM obviously are ignorant to the facts before them. You can't say you're a UM fan and than come on here and bash shannon like he's a separate part from make alot of yall call yall selves UM fans. shannon wasn't left a national championship football team and than ran it into the ground. shannon is the one who started bringing UM back to respectability no matter what emotional tirade most of yall want to feel and like to blame shannon for the last game in the O.B., once shannon got his players he beat uVA the next 2 years and only lost to them once jacory went down and smo17(True freshman) took over and like now, you can win with smo17, but he's not consistent enuff in his reads and doesn't move the chains on a regular basis. The emotional ones like to try and anoint smo17 as being one of the best qb's to come thru UM in a long time, he's not better than jacory harris that's just a fact. j70 moved the chains consistently no matter who the opponent was, the emotional ones will go and start talking about the picks and ignore many of the attributes j70 possesed that smo17 doesn't, the offense being stifled is nothing new with smo17, that's who he is, the better the competition he doesn't rise to the occasion like jacory did and many of the better qb's that came thru UM.

I'm not knocking smo17, that's just a fact, all the teams he looked good against were mediocre defensive teams and that's been his whole career, this is his last year and people are still falsely waiting for him to break out, but he's a guy you can win with, but don't expect smo17 to put the team on his back and make plays against the better defenses, james coley is finding that out.

Funny - The first words that gator fans teach their kids are: WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR! Go Canes

Harriet - Vos' post was clearly racist. It's easy for him to say such a thing on the internet but he would never say it in person (and certainly not at a UM game!). I agree with Semper Fi's approach to people like that.

I for one don't understand why we are still talking at all about RS . He was what he was , a good man , good defensive coach , a good player , average head coach . But he is gone now and his skin color is not important. I am more interested in what we are doing now and tomorrow . Go Canes

As for Randy Shannon not being able to get another DC job - I agree that if he is trying to get one and cannot, that it is a disgrace. He was an excellent DC for Miami and there is no reason why he shouldn't be a DC at a top program (such as Texas) or at least a lower level program.

However, we do not know the details of his contract settlement with Miami. It is possible that, as part of the agreement (the terms of which have not been disclosed), he received X amount of dollars in exchange for agreeing not to be a DC at another school for a certain number of years (a non-compete agreement). His settlement with Miami could state that if he becomes a DC or head coach at another school during the time in which he was supposed to be under contract with Miami, that he must forfeit whatever he is currently receiving as part of the settlement.

The overall point about black head coaches not getting second chances in college football is valid. It may not apply in Randy Shannon's case, but other than Tyrone Willingham you seldom see a black head coach getting a second chance. Of course, there have been very few black head coaches to begin with, which is also a problem.

Anyone notice the coincidence that the overnight was the following:
blatant racist gatr post
blatant attempt to justify it
blatant attempt to call out others for the lack of response exactly one hour later.

Nah, just a coincidence.

But for fun, I will respond anyway.
Randy Shannon was not the worst coach we had in the modern era. Larry Coker was. Each of our coaches had flaws, but in the end, Larry Coker was well out of his depth and that gift title Butch earned him does not change that reality.

However, Randy was second worst. That has nothing to do with race, everything to do with performance on the field, on the sideline, in the pressroom, in the living room, and in the hearts of fans.

Oh NO!, you are dead on right about that. Look at how the gators treat even non-taunting posts by canes fans on their board, while here we tolerate far far worse.

He is trying to load up his excuse wagon, and it aint working.

Here is a quick summary of the coaches as I see it, and the reason why I don't consider Randy the worst coach. After thinking it over, I even could picture placing him above Dennis Erickson.

Howard - selfish, quit us for a non-existent job with a big payday, almost made us a one-hit wonder. But he laid the foundation for greatness.

Jimmy - control freak, gave his stars too much latitude, leading to the Penn State and Notre Dame losses. But in the end he overcame that and won a title and maintained the greatness.

Dennis - quitter, drunk, total LACK of control, overconfident, and a wimpy oneback offense that led to the BYU and FSU losses and even worse led to probation and loss of scholarships. But won two titles, made QBs look Heisman quality with his one back offense.

Butch - quitter and traitor, not only left us right as we were on the edge of greatness, but left us with Larry, and then ran to our competitor, pulling a Spurrier on us. But he chose some great players while under probation, restored the dynasty using local players in the Howard style.

Larry - a coaster. Literally. A placeholder of the cup of our greatness, but couldn't hold his weight when it mattered. Cost us the OSU game with overconfidence, when a team that should have lost by 20 was still in the game and injuring our players without retaliation. Went star chasing for guys like Kyle Wright instead of continuing to use local stars. Ruined this program

Randy - clean up crew, removed the larry taint, returned to local talent, but in the process removed the OOOMPH of the team, turning us into mild-mannered clark kents on the field instead of supermen. When timeout calls are still a mystery, that isn't a good sign.

Al - has not quit on us, has control over the players on and off the field, and is restoring the OOMPH. Continues to get local players, and with the use of local camps is getting even more under-the radar local stars. Too loyal to his friend the D coordinator? Yeah. But has made the players more accountable, and rebuilt depth on a program that had none.

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But if Randy had been given the talent of Dennis or Larry, I think he would have done better than they did. So, I change my mind, Randy goes ahead of two guys that won titles, Larry and Dennis.

And he gets full credit for doing everything he could to keep the guys away from Nevin Shapiro. Picture how bad it would have been if he was complicit in that guy's actions. The NCAA, already eager to hammer us, would be even MORE vicious. So VOS/Curse, you are wrong again.

You knew quivering-lip Zombie Soldy Pig would never hold his word. It is who he is: a 50 year old loser only now, the Canes owning the scoreboard, he is more bitter.

I know you are reading this, Zombie Pig. Go phuuukkk yourself.

Another coach that fits that bill is Doug Williams. He got a second chance, but only with the same school that hired him before, Grambling State.

If he was white, would he get picked up by another school a bit quicker? I think so.

But Sunny Dee is right, there might be a non-compete involved in his settlement, that will expire next year or in two years, and we can then see if Randy can do it with a smaller school. We have seen Howard, Dennis, and Butch get second chances, why not Randy?

Five Titles - you can't call a coach a "quitter" when he leaves for an NFL job. Coaching an NFL team is the pinnacle of the coaching profession in football. In any other profession, you would not call someone a quitter if they tried their hands at a greater challenge, especially when they have achieved success at the lower level.

Also, I've got news for you: if Golden is successful at Miami he will leave for the NFL too.

cAlvina against KS Jacory could not go 3 feet to win a game in the 4 th quarter!!.
Stop it already. Compare Coaches, players, schemes, you are a comparative machine.

Steven has not shown anything in these games prior to us playing in the ACC games. That matters, as far as moving up to the ACC Championship which we want to win. (Steven said so himself in interviews, that there is a lot of the playbook that has not been used. Coach C said so confirming this).

Way too early to judge Steven, and as far as accuracy he has proven that ( reference the Manning Camp.)

He has nothing to prove to you.
All he has to do is play the game as Called by the Coaches and perform at a high level which he is capable of doing.

Has he moved or ran out of the pocket? If so how many times?. This kid is deceptively fast but that is not part of the game plans of yet.

Cut the guy some slack, and you ARE knocking him!!!.

Hey he was the QB that beat Floriduh..to put a team on his back WAS NOT IN THE PLAYCALLING BY THE COACHES SO HOW CAN YOU BLAME A PLAYER FOLLOWING A GAME PLAN.
Get a life cAlvina with your logic in place.
'Go Canes

Fair enough, but Howard left for a nonexistent non-nfl team. Does it fit in that case?

And if they quit for a "better" job that they were unqualified for, aren't they still a quitter?

Or how about Saban, leaving the NFL to go back to college? Doesn't that show that sometimes a premier college job is better than a mediocre NFL job?
Jimmy showed he was ready for Miami, and then showed he was ready for the NFL. Howard, Dennis, and Butch all used the performance of the players to bounce to a better job.

Bowden didn't bounce even when he had the chance, for example. I am hoping that Golden sticks around even if he gets offers from the NFL, and that the examples of Howard, Dennis, Butch, Spurrier, and even Saban show him that an NFL jobs is not necessarily a "better" job.

But I also admit that I am selfish and so when a coach quits right after signing day, like Butch did, I call them a quitter. Or when they quit because they see the writing on the wall regarding sanctions, like Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly, or Dennis Erickson did, I call them a quitter.

I gave them some praise, too, but I see them leaving in each case as quitting, nothing different.

Feels great to politely agree and disagree with other Canes fans again though. It's like these blogs were before you-know-who.

Posted by: RacismGoesBothWays | September 17, 2013 at 09:32 AM

And? So welcome to the party! Where have U been? I said I was myself the first day I posted after critiquing the coaching staff, add on my new name, and of course-- immediately being labeled a "troll" for going against groupthink.

I am Zakkee, I said so myself. The only reason I don't use HarrietTubmanCane on EOTH (where U post--but are attempting to hide that fact) is because JSQ won't allow me to and has erased my posts when I have attempted to use it. I've explained the motivation, relevance and intentions around the name countless times as well--so what are U really speaking of? U late as hell and you're on to what exactly?

Two questions:

1) U are on to me, right? Well now what?

2) What was racist about my last post?

3) Who are U? U on to me like everyone else doesn't have an alias (including yourself). I've posted with my real name for over 10 years before my new name of shortly over a month here on MH lol!

Racism goes both ways is a cool new & trending cliche response from racist dudes who don't know how to refute or discuss racial topics nor be forthcoming with their covert feelings. Its a cliche. Racist--a person who believes that a certain race is naturally superior to another. Now where in my post did I show this behavior or express superiority?

Good responses Sunny Dee and Semper Fi, I can't fault yall for ignoring.

Five Titles, U are a good poster, but this whole I have to play the "troll" card just in case I lose a debate is weak. U always slyly infer that I and others are trolls, but then respond to Us anyway. U know who the trolls are and whom they aren't around here--so just stop the "I need a way out routine"--U can be wrong, like anyone else--even to a supposed or real troll. I enjoyed your responses though!

^^MEANT--three questions--

With Howard, he obviously did not know the USFL job wouldn't work out, but clearly it was a mistake. He has stated that he regrets the decision.

As for Saban, I would call him a quitter. He went back to college because coaching the NFL was too hard for him. He only lasted two years and bolted at the first sign of adversity. I wouldn't call coaching the Dolphins a mediocre job. Ask yourself this - who is regarded as the better football coach - Don Shula or Nick Saban? If Saban had the success at Miami that he has had at Alabama, he would be up there with Lombardi.

I, too, hope Golden sticks around. He may since Paterno was a big influence on him. But I would not blame him if he wants to take a shot at an NFL job, the same way I do not blame Johnson, Erikson, or Davis.

Do U honestly think Al Golden has earned an NFL head coaching job opportunity?

Maybe a position coach job. But head coach??

Harriet - No, I do not yet. But if he is successful at Miami for a few years (i.e. wins or competes for national titles) he will be offered one (like every other successful Miami head coach).

Possible coaching changes-
Will Muschamp from Florida to Texas. Charlie Strong from Louisville to Florida. Randy Shannon to Florida as Defensive Coordinator.
This could cause Miami some very serious recruiting problems in South Florida.

5 titles- good post until yousaid Shannon was better than Dennis and Larry- That statement undid everything above that- I tell you why

Dennis- 2 ships: 1989, 1991. PLayed for the NC in 1992, and 1994. Enough said. So, his teams ended up on probation? So will Randy Shannon's (if it werent for the foot dragging of the NCAA).

Larry- played in 2 ships, had one stolen. Sure, he inherited Buthc's kids, but you forget, thathe was OC before that in 2000, 2001. Plus after 2002, he still recruited well- you said he went after stars insteadof local talent- NAME ONE SOUTH FLORIDA QB IN 2002, 2003 THAT COMING OUT OF HS WAS TOUTED HIGHER THAN KYLE WRIGHT AND BROCK BERLIN ( 2 GATORADE NATIONAL PLAYERS OF THE YEAR). How could he have ignored that? Plus- he went after a California boy, just as Ken Dorsey was.
Ken Dorsey lost 2 games as a starter. Kyle wright was physically more talented than KD.
Coker lost 1 bowl (stolen).
Coker never lost to UF or FSU. NEVER.
Enough said.

Shannon is indeed the top 3 WORST UM football coaches.

Where is Derrick Griffin going to prep school?


A few Miami Hurricane tidbits to air out for the moment. hUh

1. It's bloody MUCH ADO BOUT' NOTHING regarding EX-Cane QB Dewey. Because I'm sure he was only recruited to be practice CANNON FODDER on the scout team and what not.


2. I'm still literally LOL at the VAST MAJORITY of Canespace/eoth good ol' boys. dUh

Because these Hurricane bUbba's absolutely WANTED that MAD HATTER, Big Nosed Pellini as Miami's head coach. Eh. What say.

Yeah, yeah I understand that Canespace/eoth Good Ol' BOy and Pellini are CUT FROM THE SAME personality/character trait cloth and what not. So what. dUh

3. And finally, M-Y Miami, Florida Hurricane's defense will SHUT OUT moribund Savannah St. on Saturday. However, I wouldn't go near that point spread. If U know what I mean. Because Goldie is too classy of a head coach to RUN UP the score on Savannah St.



But I also admit that I am selfish and so when a coach quits right after signing day, like Butch did, I call them a quitter. Or when they quit because they see the writing on the wall regarding sanctions, like Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly, or Dennis Erickson did, I call them a quitter.

I gave them some praise, too, but I see them leaving in each case as quitting, nothing different.

Posted by: Five Titles | September 17, 2013 at 10:30 AM

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Ah So Cane bUbba. hUh

But I still infer that you are an ATAVIC, SIMPLETON, and what not, when you call head coaches " quitter's. "

Are you god, to be chastising them just because your SELFISH EGO is bruised and what not. dUh

It's best you CLEAN out your OVER-INFLATED, haughty ego and what not.

Bon jour et Bonsoir

My bad 5 titles, it seems you are an ATAVISTIC, SIMPLETON bUbba.

Again, my bad for the TYPO and what not.

Orange nd' Green tatter tots for thought.

Is it conceivable that Stevie let the mighty praise and what, he received after competing in the summer college football QB camp get to his ego, in the back of his brain.

Because ALL of his QB stat's are down from last season.

Yeah, yeah I understand that Cane good ol' boy doesn't give a crap about statistics and what not. dUh

And I even understand Cane bUbba will bellow that it's oONLY two games and let the season play out and what not. So what.

Who knows. Maybe the stars weren't in Stevie's favor the last two games. Eh. What say.

Tub O'lard back after letting the stench of his gators begin to taper off.

there is a simple reason RS will never be a HC gain. That is because hearing, sighted people saw him as a HC. Why rerun that foolish experiment?

He is not a CEO, which is really a college HC job. No sales ability. Horrible communication shills. Terrible media relations. Players regularly and visibly quit on him in games. Horrible clock and game day management.

No need to beat this dead horse. Great player. Good DC. Abysmal HC.

Hey Gallo....can we get an updated list please?????

Your slippin dude!!

Here is a quick summary of the coaches as I see it, and the reason why I don't consider Randy the worst coach. After thinking it over, I even could picture placing him above Dennis Erickson.

Howard - selfish, quit us for a non-existent job with a big payday, almost made us a one-hit wonder. But he laid the foundation for greatness.

Jimmy - control freak, gave his stars too much latitude, leading to the Penn State and Notre Dame losses. But in the end he overcame that and won a title and maintained the greatness.

Dennis - quitter, drunk, total LACK of control, overconfident, and a wimpy oneback offense that led to the BYU and FSU losses and even worse led to probation and loss of scholarships. But won two titles, made QBs look Heisman quality with his one back offense.

Butch - quitter and traitor, not only left us right as we were on the edge of greatness, but left us with Larry, and then ran to our competitor, pulling a Spurrier on us. But he chose some great players while under probation, restored the dynasty using local players in the Howard style.

Larry - a coaster. Literally. A placeholder of the cup of our greatness, but couldn't hold his weight when it mattered. Cost us the OSU game with overconfidence, when a team that should have lost by 20 was still in the game and injuring our players without retaliation. Went star chasing for guys like Kyle Wright instead of continuing to use local stars. Ruined this program

Randy - clean up crew, removed the larry taint, returned to local talent, but in the process removed the OOOMPH of the team, turning us into mild-mannered clark kents on the field instead of supermen. When timeout calls are still a mystery, that isn't a good sign.

Al - has not quit on us, has control over the players on and off the field, and is restoring the OOMPH. Continues to get local players, and with the use of local camps is getting even more under-the radar local stars. Too loyal to his friend the D coordinator? Yeah. But has made the players more accountable, and rebuilt depth on a program that had none.

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But if Randy had been given the talent of Dennis or Larry, I think he would have done better than they did. So, I change my mind, Randy goes ahead of two guys that won titles, Larry and Dennis.

And he gets full credit for doing everything he could to keep the guys away from Nevin Shapiro. Picture how bad it would have been if he was complicit in that guy's actions. The NCAA, already eager to hammer us, would be even MORE vicious. So VOS/Curse, you are wrong again.

Posted by: Five Titles | September 17, 2013 at 09:53 AM
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A real good independent thinkers post, good breakdown. I would say this though, you can't really blame any coach that left UM maybe except davis, but all the coaches before him weren't that popular among there own peers because they felt like they gave the brotha's to much freedom, and definitely not with the president at UM, you'd have to swing on tad footes crying arse. Anyway keep up the good work.

The marketplace obviously disagrees with the HC list makers here.

cAlvina against KS Jacory could not go 3 feet to win a game in the 4 th quarter!!.
Stop it already. Compare Coaches, players, schemes, you are a comparative machine.

Steven has not shown anything in these games prior to us playing in the ACC games. That matters, as far as moving up to the ACC Championship which we want to win. (Steven said so himself in interviews, that there is a lot of the playbook that has not been used. Coach C said so confirming this).

Way too early to judge Steven, and as far as accuracy he has proven that ( reference the Manning Camp.)

He has nothing to prove to you.
All he has to do is play the game as Called by the Coaches and perform at a high level which he is capable of doing.

Has he moved or ran out of the pocket? If so how many times?. This kid is deceptively fast but that is not part of the game plans of yet.

Cut the guy some slack, and you ARE knocking him!!!.

Hey he was the QB that beat Floriduh..to put a team on his back WAS NOT IN THE PLAYCALLING BY THE COACHES SO HOW CAN YOU BLAME A PLAYER FOLLOWING A GAME PLAN.
Get a life cAlvina with your logic in place.
'Go Canes

Posted by: UGoCane | September 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM
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This is why sometimes i read your post and sometimes i don't, you don't make sense. So i guess the other 24 points jacory help to put up were because he moved the ball 2 feet. Some of yall cry like girls and try and over-look the facts, jacory was one of the best redzone qb's to ever come thru UM, it was well known that jedd fisch called to many cotton candy plays in the redzone, so for us not to score that close was more of an indication of the play-calling than the execution. Don't forget to mention the dropped touchdown pass as well. j70=24 points agianst k st. smo17=3points against k st., are you really trying to make that comparison.

No matter who the team was jacory moved the ball with way less talent than what smo17 has around him in terms of an o-line and jacory, no matter who the receiver if you could ball, jacory helped to highlight your talent and with the exception of the osu game, jacory normall always rose to the occasion, smo17 has stayed the same which is, he'll hit some big plays, but leave alot of other plays out there on that field.

For you to say it's way to early to judge smo17, HELLO, the man's a senior, jacory had just as many oc's as smo17 has had and still came out balling and putting points up, for those who keep wanting to bash j70, he had nix, whipple and jedd, smo17 has had nipple, jedd & coley but he had an extra year to sit under jedd and learn under jacory. Again i'm not knocking smo17, he just doesn't see the game like the greats just yet and maybe never.

Are you seriously touting what smo17 did at some camp to try and say smo17 is accurate, lol, maybe that's why he kept over-throwing dorsett or just throwing the ball to blanketed receivers that made no sense. j70 was one of the most accurate qb's to ever come thru UM, smo17's accuracy is in the 50's where as jacory's was in the 60's, big difference.

The play-calling in the 2nd half was designed for smo17 to make plays, once the ooaching staff knew we could run they aired it out, but it's starting to look more & more like you follow football like women.

Who controls the marketplace?

Exactly, the owners and corporate, monetary oppressors of U and I regardless of color--a fact U can't stand and refuse to digest. Your privilege was a diversion and crutch to garner your vote and support against a common "enemy". Stop jocking elites lol! U don't accept U, the man-blood, they accept U the straw man all caps corporation. You're fighting for the wrong team. U belong to the human race bro.

Randy was and is today a great guy and a solid coach. If you are fair, you would know that things were not right around Randy, the full support was not in place and of course, Randy has some of that blame. He is a CANE. He might not have been ready but then again the program was not ready for excellence.We should move on - wish Coach Shannon the best and support this team and these coaches!

College football is a huge business. If a martian would help a team win, he'd be hired. Your race card wore out a long time ago Tub O'lard.

Harriet,

Preach brother. In the words of Money Mike "You can lead a h*e to water but you can't make'em think ya dig."

Randy Shannon was a lousy coach, lousy recruiter, and a coaster as D cood same as Coker was as coach. Shannon was a mediocre LB with great talent around to take up his slack, the guy was a sellout, never had the leadership quality to run this program, only make new rules for everything. If RS had to build that def without Butch, it would have ranked around last years. Stop talking about the bum, he killed this program. Coker let it slide down, but Shannon shoved it off the cliff.

We have got a coach that loves Miami and is fired up about our team, so tell me why we are talking about Randy Shannon? move on folks. Chill with some "ICE".

Randy Shannon was a GREAT D-coordinator, but a horrible head coach. Maybe it is true that the best players on this team were his recruits, but he had the #1 class in '08 and did NOTHING with it, The true measure of a coach is to get the best out of each player, regardless if they are a 5 star or not. Mack Brown is white and can't coach either, consistent top 10 classes and wins 8-9 games. It has NOTHING to do with his race, he was just not a good head coach..

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