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Canes biggest underdog in Top 10 matchup history Vegas insider says

Even though they say they're bunkered down and not paying attention to the outside world, it's bound to creep under their skin at some point before kickoff Saturday night.

According to ESPN radio host and Vegas insider RJ Bell, the seventh-ranked Miami Hurricanes (7-0, 3-0 ACC) are the biggest underdog in history when it comes to two undefeated teams meeting this late in the season. Third-ranked FSU opened as a 21-point favorite this week and at last check was favored to beat UM by 22 points.

According to Bell, there have been only two other instances of a double digit favorite when two undefeated Top 10 teams play this late in the season:

> Texas favored by 12 hosting Oklahoma State (Oct. 25, 2008)

> Miami favored by 11 vs. Ohio State (2002 BCS Title Game)

The database goes all the way back to 1980 according to Bell.

Texas beat Oklahoma State 28-24 and you all remember what happened between UM and Ohio State in 2002. If you don't, ask Terry Porter.

Canes running back Duke Johnson was asked Monday if this game was an opportunity for Miami to make a statement to the nation.

"When it comes to that, it's out of our control," Johnson said. "Whether an underdog by how many points, the only thing we can do is go out and play the game the way coaches want us to play it and everything else will take care of itself."

Is UM not getting enough respect?

"It doesn't matter whether someone respects us or not," Johnson said. "We don't care. We're here to play football and do it the way we're being taught to."

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I hope we shock the world, I really do. But Vegas is rarely wrong regarding spreads, and FSU looks way more talented than our guys. You add in our struggles against unranked conference opponents, UM being the visiting team, and you have to give pause to believing UM can get the victory. Loving UM and blindly following them out to the woodshed for a serious beatdown does not make you more loyal or knowledgeable about the sport. Jimbo Fisher has proven to be a better Coach and recruiter than Golden, thus far. Miami may cover the spread but they will not leave Doak Campbell with a victory.

Look for this to get ugly, early and often. Nobody has slowed down the FSU offense this year. No one. The only time they've been slowed is when they slowed themselves by putting in the backups. Winston will shred zone coverage, and Miami doesn't have the ponies to even touch the FSU receiving corps in any kind of man coverage. No one has been able to cover Green, Shaw and O'leary so far; I don't see it happening on Saturday night. I think the Miami faithful will be shocked by the depth of talent on this FSU team on both sides of the ball. And they are truly a well-oiled offensive machine.

READ THIS:

No way this team runs on FSU. They will take that away and force a scared Morris into mistakes, killing us. Morris has lost his mechanics, and it shows. NO way we get 100 yards without a better QB.

Posted by: WestCoastCane | October 29, 2013 at 10:00 PM

THIS SCUMBAG IS STEALING MY ID. I'M THE ORIGINAL WESTCOASTCANE YOU M*THERF*CKER.

THE REAL WESTCOASTCANE IS WITH THE CANES 100%

I'VE STATED MY CASE: THE CHANCES AREN'T GREAT THAT UM WINS.....BUT I'VE SEEN THEM WIN AGAINST ODDS MANY TIMES SINCES THE 80's...

AND TO THAT YOU FAKE-ASS, ID-STEALING M&THERF*CKER REMEMBER THIS:

5>3>2

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Everyone is picking against Miami! Remember all of those who didn't stand with U!

I hope we shock the world, I really do. But Vegas is rarely wrong regarding spreads, and FSU looks way more talented than our guys. You add in our struggles against unranked conference opponents, UM being the visiting team, and you have to give pause to believing UM can get the victory. Loving UM and blindly following them out to the woodshed for a serious beatdown does not make you more loyal or knowledgeable about the sport. Jimbo Fisher has proven to be a better Coach and recruiter than Golden, thus far. Miami may cover the spread but they will not leave Doak Campbell with a victory.

Posted by: Rabblerouser | October 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM
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Welp, and that's the one good thing about it, alot of money to be made this game if you putting money on us, a 21 point spread, lol, it's still comical that even vegas has no faith in coach goldie & the 500 club, these are the type of games vegas dreams of. They'll move the points depending on how much noise everybody is making about us having no chance.

Here's what i do know, i'm tired of hearing commentators trying to help coach our team which tells you right there, somethings wrong. For the first 2 years they were always trying to help coach the defense and it started happening again last game. Now this year, add the offense and smo to that list as well. gumbo fisher has no fear of going up against coach goldie, he has already looked him in the eye's and seen his soul.

Again, this is the game where if coach goldie wants to prove his worth along with his mac minions, than now is the time, otherwise come after the game, we don't want to hear coach goldie and the 500 club blaming the players, just say your al groh hand me down scheme is trash and this might come as a shock to you, but there is a reason coach al groh is out of work.

I'm starting to get hyped up for this game. This is the perfect game to come out like last year.

WestCoastCane, that is what the sicko does, he steals IDs and then posts garbage, trying to make that fan look bad. Notice how it was written like Gallo, but signed in your ID.

I know I said ignore him, but you have at least made tt clear to all that he is trying his sick tricks with you as well.

Calvin, why should this game be an ultimatum on the coaches?

FSU has beaten 7 teams and none of those games were an ultimatum on their coaches.

This team is in the Top 25 on offense.
2012 they were 37th in total yards at 440.2 per game
2013 they are 23rd in total yards at 484.3 per game

This team is in the Top 25 on offense.
2012 they were 116th in total yards at 486.4 per game
2013 they are 18th in total yards at 342.3 per game

Moving up fourteen spots on offense and NINETY EIGHT spots on defense is more of a factor in judging these coaches than how they do against the #3 team in the nation on the road.

I would truly enjoy a win, but I am not expecting a sudden change in FSU's performance, nor a sudden change in our performance. We are a Top 10 team this year, but not a BCS title contender. That is not a poor reflection on our coaches, that is just the status of a team with 11 fewer scholarships than FSU, without a Heisman QB.

Here is a question for you: If we swap QBs, and Winston is playing on the Hurricanes and Morris is on the Seminoles, would that be a win for Miami? Likely. And in the process would that make Miami's coaches suddenly much better at their job? Hardly.

Texas A&M with a Heisman QB was able to beat Alabama, and FSU with a Heisman QB is likely to beat Miami. That is the talent of a key player, NOT a measure of the Alabama versus Texas A&M coaches, in my opinion.

Texas beat Oklahoma State 28-24 and you all remember what happened between UM and Ohio State in 2002. If you don't, ask Terry Porter (in his mansion bought with the mob money he got for that call).

If Miami plays man to man, they will get killed....the experienced coaches will tell you, in fact coaches on ESPN today were saying that the canes only chance is to play a great zone, and man zone coverage with unexpected blitzes if they are to have any chance of winning. Also, turnovers and defensive stops won't hurt.

You morons who keep saying that we have to plan press man coverage with 4 down lineman are in La La land and obviously don't know anything about football
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Experienced coaches?? Like goldie and d'o, experienced at mediocre seasons using zone, or coaches like goldie and d'o letting UF, GT, UNC, and WF offenses move up and down the field at will because goldie and d'o use a three down linemen, no support from LBs and zone NO pass coverage NO defense?

Those kinds of experienced coaches, experienced at losing to good teams and barely beating 1-4 teams like UNC who had the winning reception in the end zone and dropped it?

Those kind of crap coaches?

IFFFF Miami plays four down linemen, with a blitz and stops the end runs and runs up the middle and plays man to man coverage underneath and free safeties above receivers, thennnnnn, Miami has a chance to win.

IFFFF Miami continues with d'os crap defense he has used for 7 games, I guarantee FSU will win and win big.

I think we all need to pitch in and buy cane72 a tv so he can watch the games. And again it is impossible to have more than 1 free safety on the field at one time.

72...isnt that what U said before the gator game? Lmao...its not a pretty 7-0 , but its 7-0 nonetheless! Our redzone D is one of the best out there and bet duke will be catching alot of balls. FSU doesnt "gift" wins like ufelons so dont come here using that excuse if FSU loses . By the way, just post as jlo. Its easier than changing your name all the time.

But Vegas is rarely wrong regarding spreads,

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You don't really believe that, do you? FSU was only favored by 3 at Clemson. Just last week, Miami was favored by 21 v. Wake. Vegas doesn't care about the actual result of the games, they only care about setting lines that create the most action on both sides.

Sunny Dee, you are dead on. These idiot posters thinks Vegas picks winners. They don't. They pick numbers based what the idiot fan will bet, then adjust accordingly. They don't make their money on the winner/loser. They make their money on the VIG so the more bettors the more money.

Get it straight you idiots.

The ONLY IDIOTS on this blog are Gallo, Calvin, 72 and a couple others. We were 4-3 last year, and haven't even SNIFFED greatness in TEN FREAKING YEARS, and now we're 7-0 and ranked 7th, and you STUPID BLITHERING IDIOTS have the AUDACITY to beeetch about it? I mean ARE YOU KIDDING ME. How STUPID are you? You guys act like we've been kicking azzz since our inception, well I've got news for you, THIS AINT THE 80's, and we FINALLY are getting somewhere ,and you little pukes are complaining? This is why NONE of you have ANY credibility with your MORONIC posts. Guys like you need a good beeetch slapping.

Zookster,

You are a total bafoon. Ok, Winston is another Driskell. Like I said before even Ms. Five doesn't agree with that homerism that should let you know it's beyond stupid.

Coach No D scheme is perfet to frustrate a qb. LMAO, I bet even DZP would laugh in your face at that.

if UM couldn't put scrub teams away at this point in both the season and graduation year.....how can UM compete with fsu?

coleys tenure at fsu will be meaningless at this point....fsu defense wins the game in a big way.....UM wont be able grind it out with fsu after UM shows most of the running plays.....and the fsu secondary is just licking their chops waiting for morris to go aerial after fsu puts to him their blitz packages....

plan on alot of UM offensive turnovers.....

UM doesn't have enough defensive personnel to match up with fsu.....dont be surprised if jimbo execute a lot of running plays with winston...that will really throw UM off balance....

now add that the fsu offensive line averages 317 lbs....dnofrio will have to commit more guys to the rush.....that's when winston and company will open it up....

UM stands no chance of winning

Calvin, why should this game be an ultimatum on the coaches?
FSU has beaten 7 teams and none of those games were an ultimatum on their coaches.

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Here goes the whiny brat.
We aren't those 7 other teams, we are the U, fuhhk those other teams. He wasn't hired to be Wake Forest, Duke and Virginia (even though he still hasn't), he was hired to beat the big dogs and FSwho is considered a big dog. That's what is expected here in Miami.


Moving up fourteen spots on offense and NINETY EIGHT spots on defense is more of a factor in judging these coaches than how they do against the #3 team in the nation on the road.

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Well moving to 116th last year from where they were the year prior should've been reason enough to get someone fired, so what does those stats prove. NOTHING


I would truly enjoy a win, but I am not expecting a sudden change in FSU's performance, nor a sudden change in our performance. We are a Top 10 team this year, but not a BCS title contender. That is not a poor reflection on our coaches, that is just the status of a team with 11 fewer scholarships than FSU, without a Heisman QB.

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So you aren't expecting us to win. make your mind up either you believe or you don't. If we are a top 10 team how can you not say you expect us to win. Either you think we are a top 10 team or you don't. You've spent too much time on here whining FSwho hasn't played anyone yet but now they are some kind of powerhouse you don't even think we can beat.

11 fewer scholoarships. SMH, you are the worst kind of brat, are you serious, 11 fewer scholarships, how many fewer scholarships did UNC have then us? And it took a failed hail mary to beat them. Stop the crybaby crap. We don't need any excuses.


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Here is a question for you: If we swap QBs, and Winston is playing on the Hurricanes and Morris is on the Seminoles, would that be a win for Miami? Likely. And in the process would that make Miami's coaches suddenly much better at their job? Hardly.

We know what would happen to our defense. Morris torches it every day in practice. If we switch coaching staffs I bet we would have a better chance. Pruit is sending the dogs, coach No D has the "don't stop get it get it" until you get inside the 20 defense.

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Texas A&M with a Heisman QB was able to beat Alabama, and FSU with a Heisman QB is likely to beat Miami. That is the talent of a key player, NOT a measure of the Alabama versus Texas A&M coaches, in my opinion.

Another apples to oranges comparison. Sumlin has a proven pedigree, he put up points every where he's been. So combine that fact with a stud qb only made things better. We have no clue of the pedigree of Al and No D. All we know is one guy resided over the worst defense in Miami Hurricane history and took none of the blame. fact

hankins: exactly.....plus we haven't seen Winston run much also.....he has tremendous running ability.....

he was brought up on the shot-gun spread offense....remember with that type of offense the PASS sets up the run, that is where UM will be totally confused......plan on seeing alot of running with winston.....and heres the rub, if UM stays in the lanes winston is great at picking up relievers LAST MINUTE.....as soon as there is a sliver of opening with either Benjamin or Oleary...winston puts it in the air....

this is way to sophisiticated of dnofrios vanilla defenses....

UM gets crushed....

House Spouse and Dog on The U...takes the points watch the Canes knock the kids D..ck in the dirt...The U!!!

"UM stands no chance of winning."

You're right, Gallo, you maggot. They should just forfeit. Not even make the trip.

Although, you said the same thing about the UFraud game then you disappeared from this blog for weeks like the limp-wristed coward you are.

Once a UFailure maggot, always a coward.

That's not me talking. That's just nature.

if you cant stop a 5'10" 190 WF campanaro who had a banner day....how in the world in 5 days do you correct your defense to stop:

benjamin 6'5" 243
Oleary 6'3" 246
Green 6'2" 206

Golden/dnofrio and koolaid followers are in dreamland...plan on the worst beat down in cane history....

Poor troll spends half the post pretending to be a Canes fan, and then the other half showing that he is not a Cane fan.

Change IDs all you want, the stench of murder-joking trailer troll is still the same.

The question was directed to Calvin. If I want the opinion of a sicko, I will let you know. In the meantime, go back to your blog to discuss your irrelevant future loss against the mediocre puppies.

Canes fans will discuss their game with national championship implications against FSU, two Top 10 ACC teams about to add another chapter to their far more classy and far less cowardly rivalry.

look pea....fla won that game in every way possible.....dirskel handed UM that win....

florida is weak anyways.....yes, UM should just not even show up......the embarrassment is not worth it to all the recruits sitting in the stands watching fsu claim the state championship......

No doubt this game is huge. But the bigger prize lies in the weeks following this showdown. This game will be both physically and mentally draining. There will be hard hitting on both sides of the ball. Win or lose how will the "U" respond? That's what worries me. The "U" may not be ready for FSU but they are ready to win the Coastal Division. The "U" needs to come out of the FSU war ready to face a tough V-Tech team who will have a chip on their shoulder after losing to Duke. Then travel to Duke who is flying high after there win at V-Tech. No doubt the next three weeks will determine the "U"s season. Go Canes

There he is again, the blog Pig with the lists. How does such a lowly maggot have time to research the heights and weights of 20 year old boys. Hmmmm, it's almost as if he dreams about them and commits it to memory.

Gallo would blow each and every one of them if he could.

sorry grren pea.....ACC and national championship run thru FSU.....until winston graduates UM goes nowhere.....

thats the sad fact unless UM gets high powered new HC in here to change all of that.....dnofrio will NEVER have an answer for FSU.....plus fsu is a younger team than UM

You still can't change the facts. Now go away and use a few of you alias to agree with your Ms. Five post and make reference to the gators as you do everyday. You are too easy.

What's the matter, GAllo Pig? You made a pass at the coaches and they told you to F-off? You are a bitter sorry Pig.

working here green pea and blogging to fill gaps......the coastal division is an insult to UM football......the ACC is all that matters and UM is not going to pry that from FSU...its just not going to happen this year and definitely next year since UM gets hit hard with graduation and QB situation going forward....

this is all an exercise in fantasy with these bloggers....replace golden/dnofrio to offset all of this...bring in NFL HC and DC....

how about mike sherman? he is already in town....lots of potential UM HC from nfl...guys all over the place...how about jack de rio?.....lets go after these guys.....

UM is the best brand of football in the NCAA....we dont need 2 temple coaches here...get rid of them and lets be serious about UM football...

I am highly concerned about this game.
We had to squeak by NC and WF.

No squeaking this time. We must dominate on both sides of the ball.
We need a defensive touchdown and we need to score on every offensive possession.

We need to win!

hes done a great job with tannehill...blame dolphins pass coverage.....that's what has been why miami has been losing......

sherman is very good at developing QB's......ge him in here....the point is there are alot of guys out there that are 1000 time better than golden/dnofrio.....besides if UM has no problem firing a cane legacy in shannon where his stats are equal or better than goldens at the end of the season....whats the problem?

what is UM afraid of? fan back lash...please within a week golden would be totally forgotten...

Gallo,

What I want to see is one of these slurpers provide a list of so called teams who were after Al the past couple of years, according to this fan base. Someone provide a factual list not one started by a bunch of bloggers/fans at other schools. I don't think the guy was so highly sought after like most in here claim. He's a little bit over .500, never won anything and currently being hampered by his bff no D. I think his agent did a heck of a job to help get his client a raise. Simple, start the rumor, get a few idiots amped up about him potentially leaving UM, bingo sign the extension.

Five,

I agree with your post above. Don't feed the trolls.

Go Canes

duh, thanks for answsring that question from five titles. But i'll just add this again, it's not going to be a good if coach goldie is sitting at 0 & 3 against Fsu, that'll be harder to explain to recruits than the investigation about "how come you can't beat Fsu?

I'm holding coach goldie to what he said last year when he said, they're a lil bit ahead of us right now, but i wouldn't trade this locker room for anything" hmmmmm. But if they're a lil bit ahead of us, that means this year the game should be a whole lot closer, we'll see what happens if Fsu doesn't spot us 10 points this year!

"He's a little bit over .500, never won anything "

errrr, he's well over Shannon, who also "never won anything. BTW, neither did Butch if that is your criteria.

look what is the goal here? the goal is for UM to win a national championship.....not win coastal or ACC division....

the question is...do you think golden/dnofrio will be in a NC? I say never.....so what are we doing with these 2 guys?....

fsu loses 7 top defensive players.....loses their OC (coley) and DC (stoops) plus ej Manuel all within goldens tenure and they might go/win NC.....

look what urban meyer has done at ohio state.....took at 6-7 team to 20-2 and 12-0 conference...please give me a break.....

since when is UM brand below ohio state? I watch alot of college ball.....I know what see...these 2 dont have it...

plan on fsu lighting the score board up a little to overcome Oregon in the polls....

typo urban meyer in 20-0 at ohio state

"look what urban meyer has done at ohio state.....took at 6-7 team to 20-2 and 12-0 conference"

Dumbass. That team was 6-7 because of all the suspension and an interim coach. he is 12-0 because the Big 10 is worse than the Big East/AAC, and, if you believe the ACC to be bad, worse than the ACC.

You are a moron, Gallo. Go back to telling us about all the money you made trading on Wall Street. That was more believable than that you know anything about UM or college football.

obvious.....all you have to do it go to the Tennessee blog where golden was rumored to be going.....look at all the fan responses.....it will make you laugh even more....

"no way"

"Ill hang myself first"

etc.....

Tennessee? Tennessee? If you had to pick any once-proud program that has had a bigger sh&t storm the last decade than Miami it would be those toothless necks from Knoxville. Please. Golden would be the best coach there since the year Fuller won the NC.

21 points put it all over the locker room.... play the game is if your down 21 to nothing..... red Kane said it best offensive line KEHOE Put your stamp on this game...

sec21-16 wrote: 72...isnt that what U said before the gator game? Lmao...
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gators beat Miami up and down the field but gave the game to Miami because of turnovers. Duhhhh.

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sec21-16 wrote: its not a pretty 7-0 , but its 7-0 nonetheless!
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Well, gee, maybe Miami should schedule SW Key West State, Northern North Dakota High School and a few other gimmees. Then, they can be 12-0 and go to the toilet bowl just to satisfy morons gloating over sloppy wins against lesser schools.
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sec21-16 wrote: Our redzone D is one of the best out there
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A good defense stops the other's offense before they reach the 50 so it is a three and out instead of kicking a field goal or getting an extra down to make a first in ten. Friggin morons know nothing about football.
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sec21-16 wrote: and bet duke will be catching alot of balls.
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Duke is a running back who can break it if he gets through the first two layers of defense. If he catches balls, it is by flat passes where he gets nailed.
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sec21-16 wrote: FSU doesnt "gift" wins like ufelons so dont come here using that excuse if FSU loses.
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You got that right. FSU is going to pound Miami the same way they did to Clemson. And the people helping them the most is d'o and goldie using a three down def. linemen front and 8 DBs wandering around in empty pastureland letting receivers make first and tens.

fsu will play like they are playing in the national championship.....you will see it all....they know they have to make a serious statement to get to bcs....if they don't it will be Alabama and Oregon.....

fisher sill keep coming right to the end of the whistle....no way dnofrio will be prepared to go 4 quarters against joyner and company....

beat down of epic proportions....

"He's a little bit over .500, never won anything "
errrr, he's well over Shannon, who also "never won anything. BTW, neither did Butch if that is your criteria.

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28-22
47-45

What's well over Shannon, take a second and compute the winning percentages, then come back with a fact. But this time grow a pair and change your troll name and stop impersonating.

btw, Shannon has nothing to do with this. He wasn't the answer either.

This is why you're such an IDIOT Gallo. Campanaro had a BANNER DAY??? He had 88 yds receiving you blithering dork. The TE on UNC had a banner day, but he's also 6-6.

And let's NOT forget 72, here's the reason YOU'RE an IDIOT. In reference to the UF game, you can have a 1000 yds of offense, BUT if you DON'T get in the endzone you MORON, than it means NOTHING!!!!

are you kidding me...he was schooling wes welker, plus don't forget those 2 dropped passes.....

ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Trolls LOVE ATTENTION

THE MORE YOU RESPOND TO TROLLS THE MORE STUPID SH*T THEY WRITE.

GALLO AND CALVIN ARE THE MOST ATTENTION SEEKING. COMING UP FAST IS CANE72

They don't need you to agree with them. They just like attention and getting under your skin.

FIVE TITLES, 5>3>2, championships is all that matters and other true CANES DO US ALL A FAVOR AND COPY THIS MESSAGE AND REPOST AFTER EACH TROLL POST. BUT DON'T RESPOND TO THEIR ARGUMENTS.

CANE TILL I DIE B*TCHES!!!

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FIVE TITLES, 5>3>2, championships is all that matters and other true CANES DO US ALL A FAVOR AND COPY THIS MESSAGE AND REPOST AFTER EACH TROLL POST. BUT DON'T RESPOND TO THEIR ARGUMENTS.
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