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A view from the other side: five questions with Virginia Tech beat writer Andy Bitter (The Roanoke Times and Virginian-Pilot)

Thanks to Virginia Tech beat writer Andy Bitter of the Roanoke Times for giving his perspective on Saturday's game. Follow him on Twitter at @AndyBitterVT. For Andy's sake and all the fans coming to UM's Homecoming game Saturday, hope the weather forecasters are wrong about rain for tomorrow night.

The questions and answers:

SMD: Logan Thomas has had eight turnovers the last two games, both VT losses. Is there any undercurrent for change by the Hokies?

 AB: There’s a growing sentiment among a minority of the fans that it’s time to move on from Logan Thomas, but you won’t hear that from his teammates or the coaching staff, who have backed the senior quarterback 100 percent. And probably rightfully so. Lost in the cries for change is the fact that Thomas still shoulders most of the offensive load, passing, obviously, but also rushing. He threw for 391 yards against Boston College and ran for a team-high 38. He accounted for 96 percent of the Hokies’ yards in that game. Earlier this year against Georgia Tech, he actually had more yards than the team had (other players accounted for negative yardage). His backup, Mark Leal, has never played meaningful minutes and doesn’t present a rushing threat, so thoughts of putting him in the game are more a fan’s fantasy than anything.

 Thomas can still be an effective quarterback if he doesn’t turn the ball over. When Tech won its first three ACC games, he didn’t have a turnover. In the two games the Hokies have lost, he’s had eight. It’s pretty black and white. It’s unrealistic to think that a guy who has 33 turnovers since the start of last season is all of a sudden going to completely eliminate them, but if he can eliminate them at key moments -- like last week’s pick six on a terrible throw off his back foot across the middle when the game was tied at 20-20 -- then the Hokies have a good enough defense to carry the team. He just needs to be smart with the ball, or at least smarter than he’s shown the last few weeks.

 

SMD: Does anything change for Virginia Tech’s defensive approach now that Duke Johnson is out (broken ankle) and Dallas Crawford is in at running back for Miami?

  AB: Talking to the coaches, they have a high respect for Crawford,too, so it doesn’t sound like the Hokies will do much different schematically from what they had intended on doing. Honestly, I don’t think they’ll change too much of what they’ve been doing all year, either. BC’s Andre Williams ran for 166 yards last week, but 62 of that came on one busted run at the end. His other 32 carries produced 102 yards, a 3.18 average, which is a number defensive coordinator Bud Foster would take in a second against the ACC’s leading rusher.

 Stopping the run has still been Virginia Tech’s forte. It ranks ninth nationally, allowing only 102.7 yards per game. Only three teams have topped the 100-yard mark against the Hokies this year, and one was Georgia Tech, which only ran for 129 yards, less than half its season average. There has to be at least some relief on the Hokies that they won’t have to face Johnson, who ran for 100 yards against them last year, although it might be a bigger deal on special teams, where he’s a huge factor and reeled off an 81-yard kick return in last year’s matchup. Tech’s players and coaches talk about Miami as though it’s an assembly of great running backs (which it is), so they’re not taking things lightly simply because the established star is out. “It seems like the next running back down there is just waiting to be star,” head coach Frank Beamer said.

 

SMD: Stephen Morris hasn’t been too careful with the ball. Will the Hokies, who specialize in pressuring the quarterback and intercepting passes, be licking their chops?

AB: It’s been mentioned this week that Morris can be rattled. And rattling QBs is Virginia Tech’s specialty. The Hokies have 28 sacks, which are ninth-most nationally, and 17 interceptions, which is second. So they’ll no doubt come after Morris with all they’ve got, especially considering how important it is to get the ball in favorable field position for its struggling offense.

 Granted, most teams know that that’s how Virginia Tech approaches things. Boston College was smart about it, putting its quarterback in max protect situations, rolling him away from pressure and rarely asking him to make any kind of throws downfield. The Eagles played that offense to a T and didn’t turn the ball over or allow a sack, which lessened the impact the Hokies’ defense could have on the game. I’d imagine Miami might try something similar, considering how turnover-prone Morris is. The Canes have a running game they can rely on. That’ll be key. The Hokies’ stated goal every week is to make teams one-dimensional by stopping the run, then go after the quarterback and force mistakes. Miami has to run it and throw it, or it will play into Tech’s hands.

 

SMD: Kicker Cody Journell has missed several field goals this year. Does Virginia Tech still have faith in him?

 AB: Somewhat surprisingly. Journell has had a strange year. He’s just 10-for-16 on field goals and had a stretch where he couldn’t hit anything. Yet he’s also won ACC Specialist of the Week honors twice in the last four weeks, first for going 4-for-5 with a career-long 48-yarder against Pittsburgh and last week for hitting from 56 and 47 against Boston College. But in between those games, he missed two 40-plus field goals against Duke that ultimately was the difference in the game.

 I don’t know if Hokies fans still trust him when he goes out there, but Beamer does. He’s showed a steadfast faith in the kicker throughout his struggles, against popular opinion, and was vindicated to a degree last week. Still, I think Journell is going to be a guy who could go back to his missing ways just as quickly as he regained his form. He just hasn’t been steady this year.

 He’ll continue to kick, though. Tech doesn’t have many other options. Ethan Keyserling stepped in during the Marshall game when Journell was serving a one-game suspension and went 0-for-3 (admittedly in a driving rain). Journell’s made big kicks before -- he had three game-winners last year -- and Beamer, the one who counts, thinks he can do it again. So he’ll be the guy.

 

SMD: The Hokies were 7-6 last year and are coming off losses to Duke and Boston College this year. Is there any hope Frank Beamer can get this team back to what it once was, winning 10 games a year?

 AB: It’ll be a process. When the Hokies were 6-1, everyone thought this team was back on its way to being the old Virginia Tech, which won 10 games for eight straight years prior to last season. Back-to-back losses to Duke and Boston College have brought fans back to reality. And the reality is, this is very much a work in progress. Even when the Hokies were building that 6-1 record, they did it without a ton of offense. They just weren’t turning the ball over, getting by on a very small margin of error. Not too much has changed the last few weeks, except the turnovers. And for a team that was just getting by, those were enough to put it on the wrong side of the final score.

 I think, given time, the overhaul to the offensive coaching staff the Hokies did last offseason, bringing in new offensive coordinator Scot Loeffler, will be a positive. But he’s not exactly working with a stacked deck this year. Yes, Thomas is a senior, but his oldest running back is a sophomore, three of his top four receivers are a sophomore, a redshirt freshman and a former walk-on, the tight end is a true freshman, as is the fullback, and the offensive line is inexperienced, with a true freshman starting at left tackle. So it’s a transition year, even with the headliner -- Thomas -- being a fifth-year senior.

 Until these new coaches can replenish the ranks through recruiting and build some experience, I don’t think Tech will get back to that 10-win plateau that became the norm for it for so long. But Foster’s defense is going to be a constant. It has been for nearly 20 years. If the offense can just show minimal improvement in its efficiency, the Hokies will continue to be a player in the ACC.

SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN

 

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So, as long as we focus on Logan Thomas, first, second, and third, we will be able to stop VT. The ball is either coming out of his hand in a pass or coming out of the backfield in his hand as a run.

Reading SMD's parallel five questions in the VT paper, I was reminded how well Duke Johnson was doing on Kick returns also. He might be missed more on special teams and on pass blocking than he would be in just running, and that is saying alot considering he is a top runner.

Hopefully, our O can come out of the rut its in now and punish VT when they blitz. We have to have a run threat too. VT had about 400 total yards in each of the two games they lost, but they would have still defeated Duke if their F G kicker was successful. This one is going to be tough to watch if our O cannot execute well.

It's going to be interesting to see our mindset tomorrow. A week after getting worked, do we allow fsu to beat us twice?

plain and simple...Morris and Thomas are the keys....which one shows up for 4 qtrs...i think is going to determine who wins tomorrow. I AM PULLING for MORRIS!!!...Just please no turnovers...I really want to see Dallas, Clements, and Gus get some quality 1st downs....3 & outs are killing us...VT got a great Def...it will be just as difficult as FL and FSU...we need our Def to get some pressure and turnovers...McCord is due for another blindside sack that results in a momentum shifter! GO CANES!!
GOD Bless ya'!

THANK GOD THIS GAME IS IN MIAMI OR IT WOULD BE MORE THAN IT ALREADY WILL BE. HOWEVER THE CANES IS A BETTER OFFENSIVE TEAM AND IF THEY GET PRESSURE ON THOMAS HE IS NOT THE QB MORRIS IS.. THE CANES NEED TO RUN AND THEY WILL GET THE ONE/ONE MATCHUPS THEY WANT. MIAMI WR'S ARE BETTER AND IF VA TECH CAN'T GET TO MORRIS WHEN THEY BLITZ MORRIS WILL"KILL THEM" DOWN FIELD. THE RUNNING GAME WILL EFFECT HIS. ON DEFENSE THE CANES MUST FORCE THOMAS INTO MISTAKES AND THE CANES SECONDARY IS GOOD ALSO AND CANNOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. CANES WIN 34/13 EASY MORRIS THROWS 4 TDS.

We need this win and run off 4 straight to finish 11-1 n rematch with FSU.......... this should get the confidence back...........

Fsu will only have beating us once, coach goldie and the 500 club will cause us to lose twice if we lose tomorrow not the players.

Look for screens and draws tomorrow. Will ogane thomas score on us for the 3rd year in a row with a qb run up the middle for less than 15yds, cause thus far, logan thomas 2 touchdown runs against us have averaged out to 46 yards per touchdown run by logan thomas against us. Does the 500 club have an answer for this!

Unbelievable that football morons are still talking about offense instead of d'o's worthless def. scheme of three down linemen and zone NO pass coverage.

Yesterday, Oregon used a three down def. linemen and zone NO pass coverage and lost to Stanford because Oregon could not stop the Stanford running game and because Ore could not put pressure on the Stanford QB.

In contrast, Stanford used four down def. linemen and hurried and chased and sacked the Ore QB all night who threw incomplete passes all night.

Canefan72's solution to cancer...4 down linemen!

Canefan72's solution to the palestinian-israeli conflict...4 down linemen!

Canefan72's solution to obesity...4 down linemen!

Canefan72's solution to terrorism...4 down linemen!

Canefan72's solution to every single football related challenge...you guessed it...4 down linemen!

zook's answer to intelligent football solutions in contrast to d'o's moronic prevent-the win-NO-defense.

mockery.

I'm a hardcore Cane living up here in the Ville watching Teddy Bridgewater tonight against UConn and wondering what might have been had he been UM QB...As for tomorrow's UM-VT tilt, QBs from UNC, Wake and FSU had no problem moving the ball against Miami. VT's Logan Thomas won't either, even though Gobblers have no run game and Thomas is trying too hard with no supporting cast, and making errors in doing so. But VT will shut down UM ground attack, which will cause Canes' QB Stephen Morris to flounder under Hokie heat, and VT will win a tight, low-scoring game, unfortunately.

Anybody who thinks this will not be a tough game for UM is not paying attention. UM's best teams struggle with Tech and Duke Johnson's loss is immeasurable. It's really disappointing when you hear the opponent say that Morris can be rattled, especially because it's true. He's a 5th year player and should be long passed that stage in his career. If he's not careful with the ball, Tech will get multiple interceptions. This is a very scary game for UM. The defense must play really well for the Canes or the outcome will not be a good one.

Hey Lannercito: If Bridgewater was here, that means RS would still be here. That's why Teddy is not here. Teddy would easily put up 40 points a game and have the stadium full. And having him here would have done wonders for the area recruiting base.

UM would be that much further to prominence if Teddy was here. But, the VT QB isn't always consistent. I say get some D packages going.

the loss of Duke hurts, but Dallas is a fab replacement and hope he can duplicate his N.Carolina game; I am more concerned with Morris, he is overdue for a breakout game.

hey Zook: so what's your solution for Obama ?

http://youtu.be/LOM4e-BhzdQ

http://youtu.be/RovY5ObtP0o

Rashawn Scott where are you a 6'3" wide receiver that could help us over the middle. He was supposed to come back for the UNC game. Its been over 2 weeks and not a word. What is up with this we are very thin at receiver.

I still laugh at this defense we ran in the 2011 game the final 2:46min of the game. That's why i was dissappointed that crawford got that pick against wake forest cause i wanted to see how the 500 club was going to actually call defense that last drive, it was pathetic.

http://youtu.be/RovY5ObtP0o

hey Zook: so what's your solution for Obama ?

Posted by: gocanes1 | November 08, 2013 at 07:00 PM

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You knew the answer before you asked the question...4 down linemen...and a lie detector!

No lead is safe with thee 500 club, if anybody’s offense is in a funk, they’re definitely looking forward to playing us with all the golf course we give up between db’s and receivers. Unlike most on here, i don’t want us going to a big bowl game to get embarassed on national t.v. and not live up to the challenge because we got 2 incompetents presiding over this defensive scheme. People keep saying thee 500 club is hold coach goldie back, no, the 500 club is running the same defense coach goldie wants him to run, a sissy scheme, scared of giving up “the big play” when it’s all the little plays underneath that’s tearing us up.
Fsu basically had one big play, the bomb to benjamin that highsmith was suppose to blow up, other than that, the screen pass to freeman was a regular dump off that turned into a big play. It’s sad seeing us have our db’s playing deep and than they get even deeper after the play starts which in essence leaves us playing with basically 7 defenders from about 15 yards in, this is why qb’s have a high comp% against us, if you don’t use your safties properly, you’re just being an escort service. Look for logan thomas to look decent come tomorrow.
Here’s the thing to look for, V-tech hasn’t be able to run the ball all year for the most part, so are we going to keep them that way, or will V-tech be able to run a balanced attack against us or will the 500 club be able to call a defense that forces an offense to do anything besides score on us.

Love it Ron Z; when Bams took the oath of office, I am surprised the Bible did not leap from his hand!

Posted by: rboud | November 08, 2013 at 06:52 PM

I agree rboud. Our O concerns me. I thought they turned the corner at USF, but they went back to their old ways beginning GT. There is no way UNC/ WF games stay close if our O was clicking.

We are not as consistent as VT on D, so we need special team scores and may be a pick 6 by the D if our O cannot produce. Its not going to be easy even if we had Albama's DC/ OC.

http://youtu.be/RovY5ObtP0o

Posted by: Calvin | November 08, 2013 at 07:05 PM

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Terrible clock management during the last drive by Jacory cost the Canes a shot at winning or at least overtime...just awful!

Love it Ron Z; when Bams took the oath of office, I am surprised the Bible did not leap from his hand!

Posted by: gocanes1 | November 08, 2013 at 07:26 PM

^^^^

Very funny and true!

That's why i was dissappointed that crawford got that pick against wake forest cause i wanted to see how the 500 club was going to actually call defense that last drive, it was pathetic.

Posted by: Calvin | November 08, 2013 at 07:17 PM

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Well, there you have it...Calvie admits he was disappointed to see Crawford intercept the ball to seal the victory over Wake. In the history of football have you ever run across a so-called fan that was rooting for his or her team to...NOT STOP THE OPPOSING TEAM??

It seems like the negative nancies with all their lies are out in full force. These fellows can mouth off, but don't know what they are talking about.

May be RS should have run some zone when we played the NC game vs OSU. Their QB kept converting on third down with his feet. Imagine with all the first rounders we had on D.

A troll just mentioned QBs have higher percentage of completion against us. So, I tabulated the completion rate and it is not so. For GT, we allowed only 31% completion compared to VT 29%. WF (Tanner Price) average completion rate is close to 60%, we allowed 54%. UNC was the only anomaly, but BC allowed 76% completion rate to Renner. VT allowed 66% completion rate to UNC as well. FSU's Winston averages 70% and we allowed 71%. So, there are QBs who complete at a better rate than others against all Ds. It comes down to scoring D in the end.

I always remember what Butch used say. Good offenses will always move the ball on you. But how you prevent them from scoring is where the D has to stand out. However, resident trolls and arm chair coaches seems to want blame the DC for everything.

I should mention when VT played UNC, Renner was injured. It was the back up who had a 66% completion rate.

GT has an average completion rate of nearly 48% although they throw very infrequently.

I've been nervous about this game ever since Saturday night after FSU

This game is a major test of how Stephen Morris and the offense rebounds

Logan Thomas's completion rates range from 19.2 (vs Alabama) to 76% (vs GT). Average approximately 56%.

No news on the Basketball team ?

Speaking of the hard court game and what not. I generally don't post this late in the evening. Yet, M-Y University of Arizona Wildcat's don't tip-off until 10:00 EST. hUh

So I guess I should blather a notion or two. dUh Especially regarding that CS and that pUnk SOUP'er!

It seems that good ol' boy soup'er/86cane are getting a wee bit TESTY. Get outta' here with that bogus inference, Weirdo!

For intance, once again that METRO BOI soup'er/86cane didn't take too kindly to some OUTSIDER Hurricane fan posting his ASTUTE opinion and what not.

So, that SOUP'er told said poster to take his CRAP to the Miami Herald Miami,Florida football blog. Bloody go figures'. Seriously LOL

Chit, I guess that metro-dude SOUP'er/canespace are THIN-SKINNED and what not. Seeing that they PERCEIVE other LOYAL Hurricane football zealots as bloody HERETIC's!! dUh

HERETIC, HERETIC, HERETIC screeches that soup'ER/86Cane... LOL

Yeah, yeah that soup is a Miami, Florida undergraduate.

So, from time to time, I give him the bloody benefit of the doubt- NOT!!

Given the various tangibles/intangibles involving Saturday night's game. I absolutely believe COACHING will determine the outcome of the game.

So y'all Hurricane partisans better PRAY to bUddha, that Marky Mark has a MIRACULOUS transformation by game time!! Get the Freak' outta here with that religious MUMBLE, JUMBLE, b.s.!!

Here's all i know and what's actually happened with logan thomas against us:

In 2011 he completed 92% of his passes
In 2012 he completed 51.4% of his passes

So far his career comp% against us avg's out to 71.7%

Same ole defensive scheme, we'll see if it's the same ole logan thomas against us!

Football, the negative nancies are not out - they're just stating facts. If not for Miami's running game, the Canes would have lost to UNC and Wake. Stephen Morris is only effective at times if Miami is running the ball well. He rarely steps up against quality competition for an entire game. Consider Morris is on track this season to pass for 18 TDs and 15 Ints. Last season he passed for 21 TDs and 7 picks. Defense forcing turnovers has saved UM's season, so far....And if his ankle is causing Morris' bad technique, he should sit and joke on the sideline like he did in the fourth quarter of FSU game.

If FSU faces Alabama for the NC, I'm unequivocally with FSU. I would think that most Cane fans with our mind state would be. Like someone said (maybe Edwin Pope), FSU has to (or should have to annually) go thru Us (twice) to get there. They never run from Us, so they deserve our respect not Bama--with a coach thats a known runner.
Posted by: HarrietTubmanCane | November 08, 2013 at 11:38 AM
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Real UM fans understand this fact, no way am i rooting for bama!

Football, the negative nancies are not out - they're just stating facts. If not for Miami's running game, the Canes would have lost to UNC and Wake. Stephen Morris is only effective at times if Miami is running the ball well. He rarely steps up against quality competition for an entire game. Consider Morris is on track this season to pass for 18 TDs and 15 Ints. Last season he passed for 21 TDs and 7 picks. Defense forcing turnovers has saved UM's season, so far....And if his ankle is causing Morris' bad technique, he should sit and joke on the sideline like he did in the fourth quarter of FSU game.

Posted by: lannertcito | November 08, 2013 at 10:04 PM
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Let's all welcome another independent thinker to the board. It's obvious what has happened is, smo17 wasn't that good pre-ankle injury and than after his ankle got jammed up, it just made his already not so good play that much worst.

The problem with our offense is simple, it works in practice against a defense we're not really going to see in real games, so this offense & james coley continue to get a false sense of success. I said it in the beginning, james coley being a 1st time oc is not going to get the proper resistance from our own defense in order for him to grow going up against the 500 club.

This is why i don't want us to go to some major bowl so we can get embarrassed on national t.v. only to hear coach say something stupid like "this was a learning experience, alot of our guys have never been thru this process, ect. ect.

ACC champs lost their opener tonight in overtime.

Coach L has got his work cut out for him this season, but last year they started slow too before setting the bar at Miami.

Anybody else think UM will attack VT or play Paterno war of attrition not to lose football at 7?

Yeah, me neither. Mark took everything he could from Jerry, in between showers.

St. Francis ? Really ?

CALVIN, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AN ALL THAT'S HOLY STOP YOUR CONSTANT CRYING. ENOUGH ALREADY. EVERY DAY EVERY POST IT'S THE SAME CRAP. WE GET IT YOU CANT STAND THE COACHING YOU HAVE A MAN CRUSH ON RANDY SHANNON. YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE MIAMI NOT GO TO A BOWL BECAUSE THEY MIGHT GET BEAT? YOU WANT MIAMI TO GET BEAT EVERY GAME JUST SO YOU CAN FEEL YOUR REDUNDANT POSTS HAVE SOME WORTH. HOW ANOUT BEING A FAN CHEER THIS TEAM IF IN FACT YOU ARE A FAN. IF YOU ARE SO UNHAPPY GO FIND ANOTHER TEAM. BETTER YET GO CHEER ON RANDY SHANNONS TEAM HE IS COACHING. OH MY BAD ONE HAS HIRED HIM. I WONDER WHY? I HAVE YET TO SEE A SINGLE POST IN WHICH YOU CHEER ON MIAMI. NO ONE WHO IS UNHAPPY AS YOU FOR SO LONG WOULD STILL CLAIM TO BE A FAN. PLEASE GIVE US A FEW LEGIT REASONS WHY YOU ARE A FAN AND YOULIKE MIAMI. NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MAN CRUSH ON SHANNON. WHY ARE YOU EVEN A FAN NOW. DON'T DOUBLE TALK OR GIVE BS STATS JUST TELL US WHY YOUR A FAN. THEN TO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL YOUR NON STOP NEGATIVE POSTS AND REALIZE YOUR POSTS ARE NOT ABOUT MIAMI BUT ONLY ABOUT YOUR DISLIKE FOR GOLDEN BECAUSE YOUR IDOL SHANNON IS NO LONGER A HEAD COACH (ANYWHERE) NOT EVEN IN HIGHSCHOOL. SO DROP IT. MOVE ON. GO START A HIRE SHANNON BLOG WHERE YOU CAN SING HIS PRAISE EVERY DAY ALL DAY.

I think our Defense can slow Thomas down. He may be as good as Jameis, but he doesn't have the supporting cast. It's up to Coach Coley now. Would be nice to play with a lead. Get it done.

Anybody else think UM will attack VT or play Paterno war of attrition not to lose football at 7?

Yeah, me neither. Mark took everything he could from Jerry, in between showers.

Posted by: One gameplan fits all but isn't the best all the time | November 09, 2013 at 01:12 AM
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A leopard can't change his stripes! He knows nothing else, it's in coach goldie's and the 500 clubs DNA. They're passive by nature when it comes to football and have no confidence and they think that giving up the big play is somehow going to demoralize the team mentally when in fact real Miami players play even that much better because we get pissed.

Case in point, allen hurns cooked p.j. williams from Fsu, after that, he got pissed and was out on the field trying to tell em he won't catch another one on me and played like it, the point is, coach goldie doesn't understand that type of mentality and i consistently trying to fight against it, i heard when he came here talking about "guys thinking they are better than what they are" so what, what coach doesn't want guys being confident, i'm sure coach schnelly, jimmy & dennis could've said the same thing, but they looked at it differently, ok, he's that confident, than we'll see.

I don't like coaches that coach football with a soft mentality, it doesn't belong on the field. Even coach goldie admitted when we played Fsu we played better in man coverage ,DING DING DING, HELLO, common sense should tell goldie and the 500 club that that's the way to go.

I can't remember what year it was but either in goldie's 1st year or 2nd year he said after a game, "i don't know, maybe we gotta take a look at changing our defensive philosophy" he knew than when he said it that the defensive scheme wasn't working for the type of players we had. So now all we've done is tell the front 7 to gain weight, get bigger & stronger but no are linebackers are getting isolated on tight-ends and can't keep up. Widereceivers just go and sit down in zones against our linebackers and pick-up 8 to 13 yards, easy football.

If a coach is just pre-paring his front 7 to stop the run, what coach goldie and the 500 club are doing with our defense is taking back to the 80's style of defense of the nfc east when, jimmy johnson came to that division, he ran all those old 3-4 philosophied coaches out of that defense because offensively he said, ok, one of your linebackers will not be able to cover my 3rd receiver. Than on defense, he knew those teams offenses were geared toward running the ball, so our speed d-tackles and defensive ends and linebackers barely let those offenses get out the backfield.

Coach goldie and the 500 club have been groomed by, parcells and old al groh, that old style of football is finished.

Miami Mike, all caps? Ouch. Just a bit of advice. When someone with a new id comes on and demands with their first post that someone should stop posting, you just let them know they are getting to you. Prove him wrong, pass him by, but don't tell people to stop posting that just leaves the blog to that one crazed fellow that hates the Canes.

Calvin, I disagree with a lot of your posts, but at least you start and continue discussions, rather than just spew insults. Keep going, and see if Miami Mike can convince you that you are wrong.

In fact, did you disagree with the rs firing? He had just lost to usf. Would you want him here another year, to then have him face the NCAA? It was time for him to go.

Unfortunately we won't be playing this type of defense, but we'll see what happens, year 3 in the goldie process!

http://youtu.be/mSYG1M5LNqY

I woke up this morning and it just hit me i know many of u guys might like this but golden reminds me of ron zook. i say this bc in college football i feel that x and o and recruiting are the two most imp components to being a head coach unlike the nfl where there is relative parity talent wise. thats why nfl is about x and o more than college. college doesnt have the parity of talent of the nfl and many times just extremely talented teams can win with basic plays and scheme just by being physically better. Maybe golden knows that he and esp dno are not x and o kind of guys. But at the same time he knows he can recruit so maybe he's just trying to recruit talent and golden values recruiting over x and o which would explain coley bc he's a hell of a recruiter but why would golden take a guy who has never called plays with the offensive players we have in place. I think it's cuz golden was looking at the long term so he was wiling to take a chance on coley in hope of getting the stud recruits in hopes of covering up their weak x and o. This is actually similar to Zook I feel bc that man was a hell of a recruiter but his x and o were just bad even at Illinois Zook could recruit. I could be wrong I'm most likely wrong but it's a different perspective bc there is nothing else I can think about that can explain why our schemes are so poor but still week by week we don't change and keep doing the same thing. It would be nice to get some truly cerebral aggressive coaching but since golden and unfortunately dno aren't going anywhere I just hope he gets his horses so basically no matter what they call well just be athletically superior.

8-4, here we come! It's sad to say, but, we'll lose this one and also to duke at least. I still like AG and give him through 2015.

Smo17 will cost us this one. Bud's defense will shut our offense down. We won't stop them on 3rd and whatever.

close, but vt doesn't go down 3 in a row.

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