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Miami Hurricanes coach Al Golden reportedly being courted by Penn State -- naturally

Did we really think that Al Golden could go a season without being named as a target for whatever FBS football program had an opening?

Of course not. 

However, the Penn State vacancy, now that Bill O'Brien has taken the job as the Houston Texans head coach, is one that Golden will undoubtedly ponder -- even if he is intent on staying in Miami. He earned his undergraduate degree from Penn State in 1991 and played tight end there for Joe Paterno. He was a team captain as a senior. 

The Harrisburg Patriot-News (pennlive.com) reported Wednesday, via a source, that Golden and Vanderbilt Coach James Franklin were both "names mentioned by a source close to the PSU program.''

  The article told readers to "expect Vanderbilt's James Franklin and Miami's Al Golden to top Penn State's football's wish list as the Nittany Lions search for the permanent successor to Bill O'Brien.''

  Penn State athletic director David Joyner told reporters Thursday that a six-member search committee intends to replace O'Brien as soon as possible, in "days, not weeks,'' pennlive.com reported.

   Golden is 22-15 in his three seasons at UM, including an extremely disheartening 36-9 loss last week to Louisville in the Champs Sports Bowl.

   Golden's current contract runs through Feb. 1, 2020.

We meet with him Monday for a post-season press conference. Should be an interesting session.

  As for Franklin, his Commodores (8-4) meet Houston (8-4) in the BBVA Compass Bowl at noon Saturday in Birmingham.

  SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN

    

 

 

   

 

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Golden not going anywhere so just chill. UM won't release him and PSU not shelling out $15 large to buy him out.

Not sure when being able to understand basic economics was considered a man crush.

I consider weight obsession and obtaining inside info via a peephole to be a man crush.

Dudes have the nerve to come here toting Cane names and talking about LOYALTY when Golden is from the school of loyalty that allowed Joe Paterno to turn a blind eye to the exploits of Jerry Sandusky. Too much of anything can be bad for U or others--and this includes loyalty. His loyalty to D'No has hampered and hurt the chances for success at UM--thats a fact.

These dudes have exhibited behaviors that suggest that they feel bigger than our illustrious program. And we have "Canes" fan coming here to support them in their delusions of grandeur.

Btw, Williams will not be the starting qb next year. Some here think it is "his turn" whatever that means. Coley will go with the guy who gives him the best chance to survive and it isn't Williams. Coley on thinner ice than DNo.

Tub o sht, that's even nonsense for you. Golden is not a loyalist because his coach turned a blind eye on illegal behavior?? Really?

Did your arm fall out from that reach?

For all of you Al Golden apologists, please stop it. He has done an adequate job at best. First you say he got blindsided by the NCAA investigation, now he supposedly did UM a favor by coming here because no one else wanted the job. Bottom line is this team is basically the same after three years of his handprint, and 300 page philosophical thoughts on coaching. Take away the scrimmages from this years schedule, and replace them with a weaker Notre Dame, K-State etc. and you might break even. Be honest people, he has not improved this team.

Posted by: Cane11 | January 02, 2014 at 11:16 PM
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This F-O-O-L, cane11, is obviously an interloper from that denizen of FOOLS aka canespace.

And the Hurricanes will NEVER " play Miami, Florida " football as long as Thee Carpetbagger's are hanging around in Coral Gables.

Because in the three seasons both Goldie nd Marky Mark have TRASHED the essence of Miami, Florida Hurricane football. I've absolutely seens the WORST Cane defenses in Hurricane football history!

Now cane11, get back on your MEDICATIONS!!

"Not sure when being able to understand basic economics was considered a man crush." -the SOUP repurposed mountaincane

It isn't considered that, but other posts are. I agree that he isn't leaving and its partly due to $. Stop taking everything so personal and to the heart. Good post overall.

BTW, who is truly more obsessed with weight than Golden's U-Tough philosophy?

That blind eye loyalty and "staying the course" "until the wheels fall off" approach explains D'No's continued employment and is in the Holy Binder.

I still think AG is the right guy, but he has to do something about the D, I mean he simply has to. If it means letting your buddy go, or maybe demoting him so be it, we have a HELLUVA class coming in and it isn't fair to them to NOT make some D adjustments so they can succeed or at least grow with their skills for the next level. We've ALWAYS been a stepping stone to the NFL, and that's been a large part of the allure for the U. We need to continue that tradition.

Lots of Cultspace rejects like UGoGolden and GKC/mountaincane are coming here to conduct their premature Golden funeral services since their boss man SOUP has gone rogue and now posts the same sentiments now that he banned over 30 bloggers over the last 5 years for. Even that racist, punch bowl head bigot knows that Golden can't coach now lol!

He's also anti-UM administration now...the irony is immense!

I wonder if he'll ban his own IP address now.

D,

You got it! The "ESSENCE" of Miami football has been crushed. We see it. We hate it. And we want someone who will change it!

Simple idea! Now let's do it!


CG leaves it will be 4-5 more years of howling to no effect...Change, adjust, modify, replace yes but this is not instant.
Give the man time to do his rebuild starting with the incoming 2014 Class. Name any other Coaches out there who could have recruited the 2014 Class and set up the 2015 Class other than CG.
Now with all this Negativity, he will have to answer the question from each recruit are you staying?...

This handwringing may have caused more negativity to our program than any of these clowns suspect.

Posted by: UGoCane | January 03, 2014 at 11:09 AM
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your opinions have MAJOR FLAWS and what not. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm guessing your one of those FOOL-MINDED CANESPACE interlopers doing what they do best. Defend Goldie nd' Marky Mark. dUh

Oh, you or I DON'T KNOW if there'll be four more seasons of teeth gnashig IF Thee Carpetbagger's trek back to Sleep HOLLOW!

And I vividly remember that YOU and your ILK, at that canespace, confidently BOASTED and BELLOWED that the " 2014 " football season, would be the season that the Canes play in a A.C.C. championship game and play in a B.C.S. bowl game.

Now y'all Goldie nd' Marky Mark sycophants and APOLOGISTS bloviate endlessly... Give Thee Carpetbagger's TWO or THREE more seasons. GTFOH with that MEANDERING TRIPE!!!!!!!!!!


Coley on thinner ice than DNo.

Posted by: GatorKillerCane | January 03, 2014 at 11:14 AM
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WHAT A F-O-O-L BELIEVES, fool!

Coley on thinner ice than that INEPT coordinator. LMFAO

Hire me! Ron Zook will return this talent-less team to the prominence. Cuz its all COACHING, right?

BTW, who is truly more obsessed with weight than Golden's U-Tough philosophy?

Posted by: HarrietTubmanCane

You 2nd and peephole Calvin first.

By the way, Larranaga has binders full of everything---strategy, every practice he's ever constructed. Folks here consider that notable perpetration. What's different with Golden?

Is Larranaga a miami guy because of that little ^ over his N?

D, lay off chastising other people's predictions. Your the moron who told everyone to bet the house on the Alabama-Tx AM game. Lots of homeless directly due to you. Duh

Miami, Florida Hurricane Total Team Defense circa 2010-2013

# 2010 NO. 22

2011 NO. 45

2012 NO. 116

2013 NO. 89

# Thee Carpetbagger's INHERIT a solid Top 25 team defense and proceed to DISMANTLE said Cane defense. Oh, that particular defense HAD SEVEN (7) returning starters.

Yeah, Coley is slip, sliding away on thin ice. That if's y'all believe the resident FOOL aka GAYtorkillercane.

I said Coley is on thinner ice because he is. DNo not going anywhere as most here have pointed out, so even a fool like dumb dumb duh D should be able to figure that out. Guess not.

Dumb, try real hard to fathom the difference between a statement of which coordinator had better results and which is on thinner ice. Maybe Tub O could help you.

LOL... it's a genuine Civil War of the Hurricane sort at that canepace now.

Chit, 60% of the FOOLS at canespace say STICK WITH Goldie and the remaining fourty-percent DON'T KNOW what they want ( At least half say bring another head coach, if Goldie departs. ). Another head coach or more of the same mediocre coaching. LMFAO

The difference is clearly results and being able to do more with less--which Larranaga has done his entire career. Larranaga's binder has produced a winner and he has won before, plus its filled with actual game day strategies and techniques--not mental, emotional stirring, and psychological jargon like Golden's

Very easy question even for U

I remember a guy named Larry Coker who went 60-15, and you Aholes managed to get him fired too! So my question is, do you blame all of your personal failures on others too? Or, do you accept that maybe you're not as good as you think you are?

You are the same ones who go to work and blame everything on your bosses, or your customers, or the materials, or the tools… You have to realize what you have before you can move forward and make things better. Progress takes time, even in college football.

FSU took many down years, more than we have. Everyone points to Auburn, but let's face it, they just won a title a few years ago, not over a decade ago. Look at the success Oklahoma has had because they are willing to stick with Stoops.

I don't think Al Golden is the greatest coach in football, and D'Onofrio is terrible. But, we can't get the best, and constantly dumping guys is exactly why we're in the place we are right now.

And please stop with this "Miami-guy" garbage. None of our successful coaches have been Miami guys.

Its 99/1 what Dumb Dumb Duh D is a moron.

I said it before and I'll say it again.

The apologists are all in on a sunk cost fallacy.
Throw good money after bad.

Mediocrity and under-performance have also given way to a sort of normalcy bias; that it's not so bad, because of what we've been through with the NCAA, so nothing worse can happen now, now that we are through it.

The UM world has started anew; the failures of past three years are all forgiven as a direct result of the NCAA cloud and RS's leftovers "causing" any of the poor coaching.

I have given myself some doubt when reasonable posters, such as ugocane, tampacane, and colacane bring up good points in in AG's defense about what it takes to rebuild a program, given the situation we found ourselves in...

There's merit to that portion of the AG defense.
I see what time it took of for Cutcliffe and Mich State's Dantonio, OLeary at UCF, and maybe even Fisher, to build true quality programs.


But that weight of the argument gives way, when, in the totality of the circumstances, it doesn't take too much energy to notice and incorporate counter examples of other programs that have done more with less, in less time or an equal amount of time; (Malzan, Franklin, Briles, Orgeron, etc..)

thereby offsetting the best arguments in favor of what AG HASN'T yet done...

Develop and improve what talent he does have to work with at the given time, compete and adjust against equal or better talent in Big games (UF and VT being "exceptions"), where even they are offset by the KSU, ND, other VT, Duke, FSU, UL, etc.; losses to any teams that have more than 7 wins or are ranked.

Defense Dead last in ACC, near the bottom nationally, injuries and stopgap players notwithstanding - after year three...

Factor in the Senior turnover coming up and it's clear that AG is in for another rough two years at least, whilst developing his own recruiting classes.

Hate to say it, but Gallo is right, in that, the numbers don't lie, when analyzed in proper context.

The guy is an average coach who's good at the administrative side of program making, mediocre or subpar at gameday coaching on the execution side of program building - especially against equal or greater talent.

Then there's the ultimate arguments that are nothing but handwringing:

Who will ever replace him?

1. Awful,fickle UM Fans have run off previous greats.
- inverse,perverse self flattery, overweighted and debunked.

2. There are no better coaches available right now if he bolts for PSU
- THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED AND JUST PLAIN WRONG.

3. Even though there are equal or better coaches, none will want to come here now because of our awful fans, our subpar facilities, and our low pay.
- by their own logic, that the NCAA mess is behind us and our legacy of championship football negates most of that concern; and with us starting fresh, the administration has every incentive and the actual resources to compete for either established names or hungry upcomers.

4. We will have to start all over, and/or the program will perish; recruits will run away.
- With a good hire, those recruits already committed and those on the fence should be reinvigorated at the prospect of playing early, under a scheme that may be better than what has been seen over the last three years.

Some will follow AG, and AG will try to parlay his connections made here to a UL-esque pipeline to the NE. Fair enough.

Overall, if AG gets pulled away, we are in the best position to make REAL PROGRESS in a matter of shorter or equal time.

AG bolting would be a blessing.

Don't be a sucker for the sunk cost fallacy.


Miami, Florida Hurricane Total Team Defense circa 2010-2013

# 2010 NO. 22

2011 NO. 45

2012 NO. 116

2013 NO. 89

# Thee Carpetbagger's INHERIT a solid Top 25 team defense and proceed to DISMANTLE said Cane defense. Oh, that particular defense HAD SEVEN (7) returning starters.

Yeah, Coley is slip, sliding away on thin ice. That if's y'all believe the resident FOOL aka GAYtorkillercane.

Posted by: D
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Dumb post for 2 reasons. First your STUPID list, we get a list on here DAILY dude thanks to other bloggers, so we ALL know the past rankings of our D, our O, our mammies, our pappies, and God knows what else. Secondly yes in 2010 there was a top 25 D, and then many graduated, or jrs left early, so of course there is going to be a drop off in talent and rankings. Hence DUMB post.


I remember a guy named Larry Coker who went 60-15, and you Aholes managed to get him fired too!
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Actually, Larry got himself fired. No if', but's or may be's.

And it's quite obvious your just another GOOD OL' BOY cane bUbba which has accepted the MEDIOCRITY of Thee Carpetbagger's.

Oh, I can vividly RECALL that you and your MININONS hated on one Randy Shannon. But that's naturally the PAR for some good ol' boy from Tampa and what not.

So it figures that you'd be TRIPPING on loyal, independent-minded Hurricane fan-dom whom aren't BLINDED by the dull Golden light. hUh

Overall, if AG gets pulled away, we are in the best position to make REAL PROGRESS in a matter of shorter or equal time.

AG bolting would be a blessing.

Don't be a sucker for the sunk cost fallacy.

Posted by: beedharphong | January 03, 2014 at 12:02 PM
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Amen to your notions regarding the LONGSHOT possibility of Thee Carpetbagger's treking back to Happy HOLLOW.

And yes it will be a longshot of the infinite degree. That's why Divine Intervention is immediately called for. Almighty Budhha and an array of other Dieties, for instance.

Otherwise, it will absolutely be more of the same mediocre defensive play and PUTTING THE BLAME ON THE PLAYERS. From y'all's boys, Goldie nd' Marky Mark.

Beed, you are glossing over the economic point, which isn't a sunk cost issue but an ongoing obligation. UM owes Golden $ 2+ million for 6 or 7 years. The admin can't/won't pay $ 15 million to cut him lose.

So, whether the program would be better off without him is just chatter. If ur at work, chatter away. If not, go do something fun.

See ya later Al!
Sign Butch Davis and keep him here forever.
He was the best UM ever had and we would have had
five more titles had he stayed.

The last thing this football program needs is yet another coaching change. The "U" has had three different head coaches since 2006. What has that accomplished? Nothing but mediocrity. Over the last 8 years how many OC and DC has the "U" fired and hired? Too many to count. All that has done is have a bunch of good football players regress from their first year to their last.

If coach Golden does decide to bolt for Penn State, the "U" will be set back another 3 to 4 years. I for one have had enough of the last 10 years of below average sorry as. football. Go Canes

GKC,
LOL - am at work, busted.
I absolutely acknowledge your point on his contract. My analysis stems from the long shot prospect that PSU actually offers him the job, wherein that very real insurmountable obstacle goes away.

No way the administration just fires him.

I am responding to the thread's direct subject - Ag to PSU?

I do argue the program would be better off without him, regardless, but am very inured to the notion that we are stuck with him for at least tow more years; that he will NOT be offered the PSU position.

If so, I hope he starts doing more with what he now has and what he gets us recruiting....even if DNO stays - blech.


For all of you Al Golden apologists, please stop it. He has done an adequate job at best. First you say he got blindsided by the NCAA investigation, now he supposedly did UM a favor by coming here because no one else wanted the job. Bottom line is this team is basically the same after three years of his handprint, and 300 page philosophical thoughts on coaching. Take away the scrimmages from this years schedule, and replace them with a weaker Notre Dame, K-State etc. and you might break even. Be honest people, he has not improved this team.

Posted by: Bob Griese 12 | January 03, 2014 at 11:18 AM

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Another Independent-minded, Free Thinking, Staunch, LOYAL Miami, Florida Hurricane fan. Nothing more, nothing less. hUh

And with next season's schedule the Canes will be fortunate to WIN 8 games. And that's with FAVORABLE tangibles/intangibles leaning Miami's way.

@ Nebraska
CINCINNATI-sp.
ARKANSAS ST.
FLORIDA A&M

@ Beamer Ball... OUCH
@ Lousiville... OUCH
@ Georgia Tech... OUCH
@ Virginia

F.S.U.- OUCH, again
DUKE
PITTSBURG
NORTH CAROLINA


FWIW... here's looking at a possible 7-5 regular record next fall. hUh

Beed, I agree with your points.

I do think most folks on here don't realize how fundamentally football has changed. Rules hugely favor the O. You can't barely touch anyone before the ball arrives and have to ease them down after they catch it.

Alabama giving up 45 should be a wake up call. It is all about the O. You are going to be in shoot outs. You have to have a controlled passing game and a deep threat game. You have to be able to run the ball, explosively and for a yard when you need it.

Our D stinks, even in this era, but the game has changed. I'd play a much more aggressive D. What's the downside--- they score immediately instead of in a couple minutes? So, what? My D will be fresher later.

Heck, I forgot to mention that the buyout that PSU would have to make to get AG probably makes him the likely candidate anyways...

Back to reality. Sigh.
Go Golden's Canes...

Only holding out hope bc we haven't heard AG reassure us that he's staying in light of PSU's AD saying the hire will happen sooner than later...

I figure I have until Tuesday or Wednesday next week to ponder the tantalizing what ifs....

FWIW... TEN TEAMS listed above have DOULBE-DIGIT STARTER'S returning for the 2014 campaign.

In other words, Goldie nd' Marky Mark CAUGHT A BREAK with a SOFT non-conference schedule and realtively DOWN a.c.c. this season.

And that won't be the scenario in 2014.

Nevertheless, a possible 8-4 or 7-5 Cane record this fall is A-OK with y'all Goldie nd' Marky Mark ZEALOTS. hUh

jra:
Well said.
Those points that you raised are rational and factual.

We need to think of the short term, long term scenario.

Many posters say fire, then what?..

Good post.
Go 'Canes

Gallo says 6-6 and D says 7-5. No wonder Sybil is confused.

...Makes him the UNlikley candidate...oops. fumble- fingers-quickpost monster strikes again. One can tell I don't get paid to copyedit...


@ Nebraska
CINCINNATI-sp.
ARKANSAS ST.
FLORIDA A&M

@ Beamer Ball... OUCH
@ Lousiville... OUCH
@ Georgia Tech... OUCH
@ Virginia

F.S.U.- OUCH, again
DUKE
PITTSBURG
NORTH CAROLINA


FWIW... here's looking at a possible 7-5 regular record next fall. hUh

Posted by: D
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Neb: Could be tough, depends if they still have Martinez
Cin: W
ArkSt: W
FAM: W
VT: Lose QB and his backup is just not good, another W
Lville: No TB and losing many starters. Plus revenge factor W
GT: Ouch really? We've won 5 in a row. W
UV: Stinks again. W
FSU: Probably lose this one again.
Duke: QB and wr gone and other key losses, and we WON'T lose to them again. W
Pitt: W
UNC: W
UV: They're bums

I see 10-2 or maybe 11-1

GatorKiller Cane:
Agreed the game is changing to an aggressive O with lots of scoring.
The problem that the D Co-ordinators will have is the handling of the D to answer this. Moving around 345-350 pound D players on a hurry up is a daunting task.
I agree that the O is way ahead right now. Look at the Bowl scores in many games. Shootouts.
The 'Canes were innovative in bringing speed to both O and D. I am sure we will be there with the talent, and recruits..
Go 'Canes

Does anybody know the BUY OUT in Thee Carpetbagger's contract.

Because I-F it's a reasonable buyout, then Penn St. may hire Goldie nd' Marky Mark away from the Hurricanes.

Nevertheless, I see Goldie as a THIRD option for Penn. St.

So here's looking at head coaching OPTIONS NUMBER 1/2 turning down the Nittny Lions!!

I see 10-2 or maybe 11-1

Posted by: Cola Cane | January 03, 2014 at 12:35 PM

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You are quite DELuSIONAL, fool!

"GOOD OL' BOY"? I'm sorry, does that imply something about my skin tone or background. You've obviously never been to Tampa. Nor do you understand that being educated has nothing to do with color or background. I don't know where you come form, and I don't care. The simple fact is you are wrong, as usual.

While I am passionate about Miami football, it is entertainment for me. I don't live vicariously through 20-something year old men. I earned my degrees and I have the career I want. Furthermore, I enjoy coaching football, not just dreaming about it. It may be on Friday nights, but it's still closer to the field than you will ever get.


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You are quite DELuSIONAL, fool!

Posted by: D
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So if someone disagrees with you they're a delusional fool?

Some posters state that we would be set back two or three years if there is a coaching change. In my opinion, we will not be competitive as long as Golden and his minions remain here.

I was willing to give him a chance. The the one blatant glaring truth that was highlighted by the performance of the defense this year and by the horrible showing at the bowl game is that there is a huge coaching deficiency at UM now, and Golden does not appear to want to begin to improve it by firing the defensive coordinator.

If Al Golden does go to Penn State, I think that we will be able to attract a very competent head coach who will steadily improve the program. This would be a definite upgrade.

For the love of God. Being a Miami guy has nothing to do with being from south Florida. I repeat.

BEING A MIAMI GUY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING FROM SOUTH FLORIDA.

Being a Miami guy has to do with understanding the talent that MiamI has in its surrounding parts hold and how to utilize them.

We don't have the personell to run what golden wants. That's why he's frustrated.
Look at the kids, they can't run his scheme bc they dont want to. It goes against what they've played their whole life.
A Miami guy understands to turn the beasts loose and let them eat.
Jimmy understood that.
Schenelly understood that.
Erickson understood that.
Butch understood that.

WE NEED A MIAMI GUY WHO UNDERSTANDS MIAMI.
Period.

How insane can you be to think we will win 10-11 gms next year. Have you seen the defensive scheme D'no runs. Every qb has his best game against us it's a trend that will continue until we go back to a true 4-3 attacking defense. No Savannah st or fau means two less wins at a minimum.

And in the case of GT, Vad Lee is transferring, so they'll have a new QB as well.

Tampa Cane Wrote//////////////////////////////////
I remember a guy named Larry Coker who went 60-15, and you Aholes managed to get him fired too! So my question is, do you blame all of your personal failures on others too? Or, do you accept that maybe you're not as good as you think you are?

You are the same ones who go to work and blame everything on your bosses, or your customers, or the materials, or the tools… You have to realize what you have before you can move forward and make things better. Progress takes time, even in college football.

FSU took many down years, more than we have. Everyone points to Auburn, but let's face it, they just won a title a few years ago, not over a decade ago. Look at the success Oklahoma has had because they are willing to stick with Stoops.

I don't think Al Golden is the greatest coach in football, and D'Onofrio is terrible. But, we can't get the best, and constantly dumping guys is exactly why we're in the place we are right now.

And please stop with this "Miami-guy" garbage. None of our successful coaches have been Miami guys.

Posted by: Tampa Canes | January 03, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Tampa Cane you made good sense in that we have a record of irritaiting, offending, driving off, and hassling Coaches at the U!!!.

In attending the 'U' on campus it was kind of a "it doesn't matter we will get a top Coach since we have a program that many people envy".

Not so.

Our fuses are so short that Coaches start looking over their shoulders when the going get's rough.

Alabama took years to regain their program to prominence, the same applies to Fla State, and others, so why should we be any different?. Your point about Auburn is right on the money.
People read Tampa Cane's post again and think.
There are so many nuances in Coaching that we as fans cannot fathom what is involved.
We just look at Wins and Losses and don't really know the substance that is involved.
Play a BOWL game with ONE healthy wide receiver and find out?....
Amazing.
Go 'Canes

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