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Hiring Ice Harris a smart move for Canes, but making him an assistant coach would be even smarter

High school football coaches across South Florida were happy to hear Monday's news that Miami Booker T. Washington's Tim "Ice" Harris had been hired as assistant director of football operations at the University of Miami.

"Great news for Coach Ice and for The U," former Hurricane and Miami Central coach Roland Smith said. "It means a great deal for him to be back at UM. Everyone in the community knows him. He knows the ins and outs of Liberty City, Overtown and many other places here in Dade. He's going to be an asset."

"I think it’s definitely a good thing for both," said Miami Westminster Christian coach Sedrick Irvin, who spent two years at Alabama and another at Memphis as an assistant and knows the value of having a familiar, local face on a college staff.

"Besides, what else is there for him to accomplish at this level now?" Irvin continued. "State champs three times. National champs. It's always good to see the home school give a local coach who has done well a shot at the next level."

Harris, a three-time state championship winning coach and perennial winner with a 96-10 career record as a head coach, no doubt has earned the respect of coaches locally. As the direct liaison for high school coaches for UM -- among his new duties -- that will come in handy. So will the experience he already has from coordinating community service events the first time he was at UM under Randy Shannon from 2008 to 2010.

But if you're thinking Harris' hiring is going to "lock down South Florida recruiting" you're overestimating it some. Since he's not an assistant coach, Harris cannot recruit like one for the Hurricanes. 

According to UM here is what Harris can't do: He can't coach. He can't recruit. And he can't make phone calls to recruits.

What can he do? He can reach recruits through social media beginning Sept. 1 of their junior year and he can be involved in official on campus visits and eat meals during off campus official vists.

That's hardly the freedom assistants coaches have.

Other college programs have swooped into South Florida over the last two years and hired some of the top local coaches such as Miami Central's Telly Lockette (USF), Miramar's Damon Cogdell (West Virginia), University School's Roger Harriott (FAU) and Hialeah American's Corey Bell (FAU). By making them assistant coaches, they're allowed to go into homes, schools and recruit to the fullest extent. 

Norland coach Daryle Heidelburg was at Miami Edison and Norland when Harris had his first go-around with the Canes.

"If it's pretty much the same job as last time he can make phone calls to the coaches," Heidelburg said. "It’s not on the recruiting tip, but it’s moreso ‘Hey Coach Golden told me this kid was offered. I want to get a correct address and phone number. The coach may start a conversation with him like ‘So how is it over there?’ He can always plug in players that way and talk to them about that.

"They can use that help recruiting. But do I think FAU made a better move with Bell and Harriott? Yes. That’s where the advantage is going to be with Bell, Harriott and Lockette. They’ll coach the kids they are recruiting as opposed to Ice just selling the program.

"Bell, Harriott and Lockette can actually sell the kids, 'Hey we're from Miami and we're recruiting you to these positions.' I don’t know if a liaison position even allows for Ice to ride out with the coach who is recruiting the player."

Irvin, who again has been a part of a college staff at Alabama and Memphis, said where he thinks Harris can make an impact most is with parents.

"Me being realistic I don’t think he’ll have so much of an impact with players, but he can have an impact depending on how they use him and how he comes off to the parents," Irvin said.

Harris has told me in the past if he returned to the college ranks he wanted to be in a position where he could coach and not be a behind-the-scenes guy. There's always the possibility Golden is thinking two steps ahead here and wants to have Harris on staff with the idea of eventually making him an assistant. 

Harris also wants to finish college and get his degree at UM. Part of the reason he left Booker T. was to take advantage of this situation and finish school once and for all. He cannot become an assistant coach until he gets his degree.

"I don't know the details of the job for Ice, but maybe it will be used as a stepping stone to get acclimated to the college game and then maybe next year he’s a position coach," Heidelburg said. "I can definitelly see it like that."

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Multiple personalities Five Titles. That's all. This kid didn't take his medication today. Mom must have left him home alone to make some money on the poles.

And trying to steal my ID, but still lying. Miami is ranked higher than the gatrs in baseball, were ranked higher in football, and beat both head to head, even though you pretend it didn't happen, coward.

Ewww, that pole must be dented, where that tonnage bent it out of shape.

Sad to think that it reproduced....

The NCAA cloud is gone, done with, OVER. Candyrandys guys with their "entitlement" issues are gone as well. Now if things go wrong this season, it will fall squarely on the shoulders of Golden. I've backed Golden since day one. He was the clean cut figure that we needed to get us through the mess that the ncaa created because they can't perform a simple investigation. Now that's over with, and yes it is over with, we can concentrate on playing football. If Golden wants to ride or die with his buddy so be it. To me numbers don't lie. The defense hasn't produced anything in my opinion. Maybe now with more maturity, size, and time with the system things will be different but I will wait and see. I have no confidence whatsoever in No'D. I am pleased to hear that we will be running a lot more 4-3 and man coverage this year. The 3-4 is childish MAC conference defense. I already went to one of the practices and these boys have put on some serious size compared to last season. Some of them I had to take a double take. I'm heading back this weekend and will definitely go to the spring game. Man I can't wait for this season to start already.

GO CANES!!!!!

Again ... When was the last time Ur Athletic Programs were Ranked #1 in ANYTHING ?

How about just ranked ?

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The #EverythingSchool gets better: Five Florida Gators teams now No. 1 nationally... FIVE

By Andy Hutchins


Last week, I wrote our first piece expanding #EverythingSchool from a hashtag to a description of what the Florida Gator's unbelievably deep athletics program has done in 2013-14. Three teams were No. 1, Florida's gymnastics team arguably deserved to be, and things were great, as great as they've ever been.

This week, things are better.

Of the 14 sports Florida competes in at a varsity level that are currently in season, just ("just") 12 are currently ranked. But five of those 14 teams are ranked No. 1 nationally — more than a third of Florida's teams in season are currently the best in the nation — and gymnastics still isn't one of them.

Florida's No. 1 teams, on March 4, 2014, are men's basketball, men's swimming and diving, softball, and men's and women's indoor track. The indoor track teams don't record wins and losses, so those teams are a combined 56-2 (basketball is 27-2, men's swimming 8-0, and softball 21-0) for their seasons, and a staggering 46-0 in 2014.

And Florida's gymnastics team, despite suffering its first loss to Alabama last Friday, moved up from No. 3 to No. 2 in this week's women's gymnastics rankings, and still has the nation's No. 1 average score (197.484) on the season, bettering No. 1 LSU's 197.481 by three thousandths of a point.

Florida has five No. 1 teams at the same time, should really have a sixth No. 1 team, has eight top-five teams (women's lacrosse and women's tennis), is poised be among the favorites for as many as eight national titles (Florida's men's and women's indoor track teams are great; those same teams have been better in outdoor track in recent years) before the end of the 2013-14 year, and should see every team in season make its respective NCAA Tournament.

Florida is the #EverythingSchool, the everything school, and the school where every sport matters and is great. And it has never been better than it is right now.

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More GATOR SEC and NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS to come... U ? Good luck with that Spring Football 'Ship and NIT Title u LOOOSERS !!!

I hope chad and moten are spending this off season working on their coverage skills bc they'll be asked to play db and I hope they don't look silly like green and porter.

What up Nash!

So gaytards are great at every sport other than football. Thanks for pointing that out captain obvious. Why don't you get your skirt on and stand next to the cheerleaders since they're probably #1 also.

GO U CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.

Haters simply can't stop hating. See I never speak about the gaytards on any level until they open their mouths about us first. I personally could care less if a nuke feel on that STD cesspool. I wouldn't blink an eye. I would continue sipping my cafe cubano like it was any other day. That school RAN from us for 15 years to lose to us in a bowl game and in the OB. Devin Hester running back a blocked field goal to open up the scoring in that bowl game and Devin Hester returning the opening kickoff in the OB. I would be pissed to, but I'm not since I'm a Cane. Keep banging your sister. It's all you'll get.

GO U!!!!!


Golden hired a High School coach, yippy, bravo, he sits at a desk, that should help the worst Defense in programs history..... DUDE CANT COACH OR RECRUIT, DID THINGS CHANGE THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE, OH YEAH IT DID, Nevin was running the playground giving kids free rides. MAYBE THAT COACH NEEDS THICKER GLASSES TO SEE THINGS..... HE WAS WORKING FOR THE STAFF THAT HAD ALL THEM KIDS SUSPENDED..... BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO, where did his son go? OMG YOU FREAKING IDIOTS, ITS THE COACHING ON THE FIELD THAT OUR PROBLEM, NOT THE SECRETARY.... WATCH THE LOUISVILLE GAME, THEY HAD 30 DAYS TO PREPARE AND THEY PLAYED FOOTBALL LIKE THEY HAD NEVER DONE IT...

30 year Cane fan, welcome to the Big Ten Miami. I will tell you for a fact, their is no way in hell is this coaching staff going to ever have a chance of winning a title...... WAKE UP BOYS, AL GOLDEN IS A CROOK JUST LIKE JOE PA, WILL DO EVERYTHING TO PROTECT HIS BUDDY, its all about a paycheck.... MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY, AL WANTED OUT OF HERE, BUT HIS OWN SCHOOL SAID NO THANKS

We need a few more moves and the scene will be set if failure happens on defense again or still, its a banner year for positive results, not excuses and its going to take awhile, look at all the programs that have bounced back, so Golden needs to win big games and bring respect back to Miami, not lame excuses, every team has young players at least 25 to 30 each year so that excuse is gone. Results and adjustments are keys in game time ball for any school or sport.

Five Titles douche
I have only posted once on this thread congratulating coach Harris and wondering about the lax compliance at your sorry school.
Stop the paranoia
Stop confusing every other poster here when it's so easy to tell who is who
Take your meds
Seek professional help
you are one paranoid, delusional loser
Welcome back CANETILUDIE you are close to replacing loser dom as the most delusional cane clown poster of all. Keep it up and soon you will be the one.
Spring champs, that is too funny.

Ahh, more negative personalities crawling out from under their collective rocks. I can only imagine what it must be like to wake up as a douche every morning. Sad man. Must feel awesome to have something as POWERFUL as the internet so that you can bully people behind a screen. Must be great.

GO U!!!!!

Manny you coul have cut all of the bull s...t and all of the pseudoracial pandering by stating from the beginning that ice cant become an assistant till he gets a college degree.

Seriously cut the bs youre better than that

Ice will be a major asset to the canes

Period.

Catgall what changed the first time he was here, name one thing.......WAITING

Oh yeah I forgot, him and the other staff members were letting Nevin run the playground....it was a move to make certain people happy that's all. nothing changed the first time and it wont again, U FANS GET EXCITED WHEN THE U HIRES A HIGH SCHOOL COACH...... WOW

Hey where are all the Cane fans that said Coley and Golden were NSD closers, your right they lost recruits 6 weeks before NSD and could not get another top recruit after the PSU mess, recruits also found out that Golden wasn't making any changes and they got smart and said no thanks to the U, Golden said on NSD he got everybody he wanted ( LIE ) he just picked up a recruit that wants to play DT, but Golden is putting him on the O line... Crawford moving to safety is what you call a sucker move for NOCOACHD, its perfect excuse we have a new guy playing that position when he gets burnt ( WATCH AND LEARN )its a sucker move to protect NOCOACHD...

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