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Life, death and passages... Baby Cane comes into the world and former future-walk-on Cane departs it

Roman Louis Williams

Our most heartfelt congratulations go to Hurricanes quarterback Ryan Williams and his wife Deanna, who celebrated the arrival of a beautiful baby boy late Tuesday night -- Roman Louis Williams, a 9-pound whopper who at this point looks more like an angel than a future quarterback (or future whatever).

 I texted with Deanna and talked to Ryan's mother Jayne Williams -- that would be Grandma Jayne to little Roman -- today. They said Roman was 21 inches long, to Ryan's 22 inches at birth.

 And if you think 9 pounds is huge (it is), Ryan Williams was 11 pounds 1 ounce at birth -- "and he was born two weeks early,'' Jayne said.

"He is a cutie, he really is,'' said Ryan's mom of Roman. "Ryan seems like a natural with the baby. Once he knew Roman was fine, he said, 'I have to get back to my wife in the recovery room. He slept at the hospital the past two nights. But today he was back at Miami working out and doing therapy.''

Deanna, who will be released from Baptist Hospital tomorrow, said of Roman: "He's perfect, and Ryan helps out so much I love it. And he barely cries -- just when he's hungry.''

Give it time, Mom. :)

Jayne Williams said Ryan will likely be a player-coach the first several days of practice. She said he's waiting for a custom knee brace to arrive. He still has goals of returning relatively early in the season.

"Anything less than getting back this season is unacceptable to him,'' Jayne Williams said.

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 On a tragic note, our deepest condolences to the family of former University of Pennsylvania linebacker Joey Grosso, a two-time Ivy League champion who was set to begin UM law school and walk on to the Hurricanes' football team for his final year of NCAA eligibility.

  A day after Roman came into the world, Grosso -- only 22 -- left it after diving for lobster off Pompano Beach on Wednesday and becoming the first South Florida fatality of the 2014 statewide lobster mini-season.

 Chris Yandle, UM's assistant athletic director for communications, said Grosso "was added to the 105-man roster on Tuesday'' but hadn't been assigned a jersey number yet.

  Joseph-Grosso Grosso, a high school All-State linebacker at Pope John Paul II in Boca Raton, was from Lighthouse Point in Broward County. He reportedly returned to a dive charterboat after lobster hunting and decided to go back into the water alone. Grosso's stepfather Phil Franchina told WSVN-Fox7 that Joey ran out of air. He was found unconscious on the surface at about 8:30 a.m. Wednesday.

  I just got off the phone with Joey's first cousin, Michael Becker.

   “This has been one of the most tragic 24 hours that anyone in our family has ever experienced,’’ said  Becker, Grosso’s first cousin. “He was a diehard UM fan – our whole family is. He didn’t even care about playing; he just wanted to say he was a Miami Hurricane. It meant the world to him.’’

   “The entire Penn football family is saddened by the tragic news of Joe’s passing,” Penn football coach Al Bagnoli said in a statement printed in the Daily Pennsylvanian. “Joe was a terrific young man, an accomplished student and an outstanding player. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his entire family during this very difficult period.”

  From Grosso's Penn Bio: Career Accolades -- Two-time Ivy League champion (2010, 2012) ... Finished with 43 tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss, a fumble recovery and an interception in 31 career games ... Played in every game over his final three seasons.

2013: Played in all 10 games ... Finished with 22 tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss and an inteception ... Had at least one tackle in nine games ... Had multiple tackles in each of the last four games ... Season-high six tackles at Villanova (Sept. 28) ... Had an interception at Brown (Nov. 2) ... Four tackles apiece at Harvard (Nov. 16) and versus Cornell (Nov. 23). 

    Grosso graduated from Penn in May with a major in politics, philosophy and economics, according to the Daily Pennsylvanian. 
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  Chris yandle And I'd like to close by saying farewell for now to Chris Yandle, whose last day at UM is today and who has taken a job as Georgia Tech's Assistant Athletic Director for Communications & Public Relations.

  "It's bittersweet,'' Chris told me this morning. "I came here two years ago for a great opportunity and met a lot of wonderful people. I didn't expect to leave so soon, but I'm grateful for everybody at Miami who gave me the opportunity. My family and I are excited about what the future holds in Atlanta."

   When I reminded Chris that UM has beaten Georgia Tech five times in a row (actually, he confirmed that for me) in football and asked him what he thinks about that now that he's on the other side, he said, "No comment. I'm still being paid by Miami until tomorrow.''

   Thanks for everything, Chris -- and see you on the dark side in October.

   SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN  

 

   

    

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Condolences to the Grosso family and all those who loved and cared about Joey. May God hold Joey in his warm embrace.
Congratulations to Ryan and his entire family on the birth of his baby boy. Appears strong & healthy. Wishing Ryan Godspeed in his recovery from injury as UM needs all the QB help it can get.

Appears Yandle is taking the same position at Ga Tech? Maybe wants closer to home?

What do you all say we take a cease fire on all the Cane on Cane, Cane on Gator and Gator on Cane back n forth until the next Blog Post in Honor of just how precious and tragic life and the loss of life can truly be...

So much more than Sports when compared to the Big Picture...

God Bless and welcome to the World to the Little Williams Boy and God Speed and R.I.P to an obviously fine young man Joey Grosso...

Canes-Noles-Gators-Knights-Bulls-Owls-Panthers... Salute ...

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So this rag thinks I'm going to pay to read the main articles, sorry not going to happen.

***UM SANCTION CRY BABIES--STOP MAKING EXCUSES***
"Over the past few seasons, USC had an ungodly number of players go down with injuries. So many that the Trojans had just 44 scholarship athletes available when it entered its Las Vegas Bowl against Fresno State, which USC ultimately won.

It was another instance of sticking it to the NCAA, something the Trojans had gotten used to doing while going 35-17 during those sanctioned years".

USC RECORD DURING 4 YEAR PROBATION/REDUCTION OF SCHOLARSHIP YEARS---35-17

"Some teams would kill to post that record in a four-year period under normal conditions. USC did it while severely limited, and in the eyes of die-hard Trojans, it wasn't good enough".

**ONE LAST TIME**THIS IS NOT TEMPLE
THIS IS BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL**

WE DO NOT REWARD MEDIOCRITY

Golden, IT'S TIME TO FISH OR CUT BAIT--YOU DECIDE!

"What do you all say we take a cease fire on all the Cane on Cane, Cane on Gator and Gator on Cane back n forth until the next Blog Post in Honor of just how precious and tragic life and the loss of life can truly be..."

Posted by: Take A Time-Out and Be Thankf[]_[]l ... | July 31, 2014 at 02:25 PM

Not! You can sing your own Kumbaya!
Get outta here!

USC didn't have to wait 3 yeard to find there fate. Played knew exactly what was going on and how ling it would continue. UM had huge uncertainty, would there even be a program. Some people are so stupid that they speak before reasoning

Thank you Rick for once again removing any and all doubt as to how little you know about football and most especially Al Golden. Folks, like Harriet, Calvin, Rabblerouser and a variety of their other aliases these are the 'experts' that are constantly bashing Al Golden...as is often astutely stated...always consider the source.

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Bill Parcells went to the Dolphins and destroyed that team and then left..... HE AINT NOTHING BUT A ASS

Posted by: Rick | July 31, 2014 at 02:25 AM

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Parcells is the only coach in NFL history ever to lead four different teams to the playoffs and three different teams to a conference championship game and play in three Super Bowls, winning two.

On February 2, 2013, Parcells was voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame considered to be one of the greatest coaches ever.

Parcells again orchestrated a remarkable turnaround in his first year with the Jets. In his first season with the Jets, the team barely missed the playoffs with a record of 9–7 (the Jets were 1-15 the year before Parcells arrived, and had won a total of 10 games in the previous three seasons combined). In 1998, the Jets went to the playoffs with a current franchise-best 12–4 record, which was good enough for second place in the conference and earned the Jets their third home playoff game since moving to New Jersey in 1984 (their first home playoff game was against the New England Patriots following the 1985 season), but lost to the eventual Super Bowl-champion Denver Broncos in the AFC Championship Game.

Under Parcells leadership the Dolphins finished the 2008 season 11–5 and became AFC East champions when Pennington and the Dolphins defeated Favre and the Jets in the final game of the season. They finished with a 10 game improvement from the previous season, making the Dolphins one of two teams in NFL history to accomplish a 10 game turnaround, the other being the 1999 Indianapolis Colts. It was also the first time since 2001 that the Dolphins made the playoffs.

Posted by: Nothing But Blue Skies From Now On | July 31, 2014 at 03:14 PM

And thank you for being such a PROPAGANDA MEISTER of the Golden sort. hUh

Strongest conferences from top to bottom.

1. SEC
2. PAC-12
3. BIG 12
4. ACC
5. Big Ten

Louisville - 2 1/2 point chalk. According to the early Vegas line.

^^^^^^^^^

Somebody needs a job, a friend and a correspondence course in rudimentary English. Yikes, dumb as the rock he lives under.

The four playoff teams will come from the SEC, PAC-12, Big 12 and ACC conferences.

Well Rabblerouser has said no for his own reasons, but we know you would have continued anyway. Your idea of a cease fire is that we not fire back at you. You are like Hamas, in that you think it is okay to shoot rickets, but that we cannot hit the rocket launchers in return.

You had your chance a month ago, and used it to escalate. So no thanks.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24643269/nfl-names-cris-carter-michael-irvin-as-2015-player-captains

Awesome Cane great that even the hators have to recognise was a great Cane and NFL star, Micheal Irvin will be the captain for one of the teams in the next NFL All-Pro game.

Only negative is that he should have been put opposite Deon Sanders, rather than Chris Carter.

THAT would have been perfect, UM versus FSU, and Dallas versus San Francisco, would have been great.

After, during the time of Micheal versus Deon, it was the top two teams in the state and the country going against one another, with class and mutual respect, while the third team in the state wallowed in obscurity.

Congratulations to Micheal Irvin, representing the U in the Pro Bowl yet again.

Best up and coming rivalry:

UFilth vs. Ga Southern.

LOL! They will never play Georgia Southern again...

Stunned the spread is only 2.5.

I mean, Miami lost at a neutral site by more than that, and is now facing that same team in their home stadium. IF I was to put money on this game, I would bet the over and the favorite.

I hope I am wrong, but the numbers are in UL's favor.

"Among the penalties levied were four years of probation, a two-year bowl ban (2010-11), vacating all wins from December 2004 through the 2005 season, a reduction in scholarships by 10 for the 2012-14 signing classes and the capping of the roster at 75 players for that same three-year time span".

But June 10, 2014, marks a new beginning of sorts, as USC’s four-year probationary period officially ends.

And while the Trojans still have one more season to go with a restricted roster, this undoubtedly represents a significant moment in time for a USC program that, after having been crippled by the sanctions that were handed down, desperately wants to move forward.

Just how significant of an effect did the penalties have over the four years in which USC was under probation"?

".673 -- USC’s winning percentage during the four years (2010-2014) under probation".

.250 -- USC’s winning percentage vs. ranked opponents

.375 -- USC’s winning percentage against primary rivals Notre Dame and UCLA

"19 -- The total number of players from USC who have been chosen in the past four NFL drafts
USC’s players have an incredible history when it comes to the NFL draft. In fact, with 483 players having been selected, the Trojans rank No. 1 in that department all-time."

***34 -- Number of times USC was in the weekly AP Top 25 rankings under probation, out of 65 weeks***

***711 -- Second-half points USC gave up over the past four years, while scoring just 693 of its own
With USC’s roster cut down due to sanctions, the Trojans have been plagued by a lack of depth. Not surprisingly, then, they haven’t exactly performed up to par in the second half of games, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.***

I THINK THIS MAKES ONE THING ABUNDANTLY CLEAR****THE EXCUSES MUST STOP!!!

FSU IS #1 RANKED, OUR ARCH RIVAL & NEMESIS, BEAT US SOUNDLY LAST SEASON, AND NOT SO MUCH AS A WORD FROM YOU SO-CALLED LOYAL CANE'S FANS???
NO WORD TODAY, YESTERDAY, OR LAST WEEK?? MOST OF YOU SEEM TO HAVE THE PASSION OF A MAYONNAISE JAR.

MANY OF YOU SHOULD RETURN TO YOUR TRANSFORMER TOYS.

I'm just prepping for the season ahead blue skies. You can relax some. When the season stars and Al Golden faces off against quality coaches in big games-we both know whats coming: humiliating losses!

Posted by: cool j | July 31, 2014 at 12:42 AM

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There you go again parroting your same comments prior to last season.

Last year, Al Golden led a team that was badly in need of an across the board talent upgrade due to the NCAA beat down and the disarray the last staff left the program in.

A season in which his starting QB was injured and was almost immobile that greatly hindered his throwing motion and lost one of the country's best running backs and receivers for 5 games.

Al Golden posted a 9 & 4 record that with a little more depth, talent and a healthy starting QB, running back and wide receiver could have easily improved his record to 11 or more wins.

As Rece Davis said; “Well, first of all I think that nothing has changed in terms of my regard for Al as being one of the brightest young coaches in college football."

Jimmy Johnson opined: "There's a lot of people who hate the University of Miami. A lot of them who are jealous of the University of Miami. What I feel bad about is Al Golden is such a solid, good, qualified person. He wants to do it the right way…he has inherited this mess and has to deal with it. There is no question that Al Golden is the right man to return Miami to championship football. Hopefully he will get past it and we will get past it. Again I hate that Al Golden got dragged into this thing because he is a really, really good coach and guy."

Frank Beamer commented; "He somehow got through that NCAA mess and made the program better," Beamer said. "Not just survive. He made it much better. He is doing a heck of a job. And I told him that too. He's gone in there and been a very steady, solid influence on that program that will become a force in the future."

Mark May concerning the NCAA attack offered; “If I’m Al Golden, I feel sick,” said May. “This is a very talented coach who was definitely on the upswing, on the fast track to much better things and he really got blindsided by this entire situation. Miami has one great thing going for them at this time and that's Al Golden”

Todd Blackledge noted on Twitter; "I'm good with Franklin, but would have preferred Al Golden."

Dwyer High School head football coach Jack Daniels said; "Bill Parcells is a huge Al Golden fan and just raves about him, as well as everybody else does. You know, I think the University of Miami is going to be back up with the elite very quickly."

I've always felt Golden would get it done at UM and was happy when he was hired. The NCAA mess has held him back and makes him look very ordinary. I still think he's exceptional. His one weakness may be his loyalty. You have to have some cold blood to be a college coach. You have to know when to make assistant coaching changes and be proactive doing it. Golden is extremely loyal to his assistants, sometimes to his own detriment. I'm not naming any assistants who should or shouldn't be on the staff. I just know you have to step up and make changes sooner than later, or you will be the one looking for a new job.

I made it clear to the gator troll jls that his "cease fire" only works if he stops firing at us.

I doubt he will get the hint though.

Congrats to Ryan and his family. Keep rehabbing!

And condolences to the Grosso family. He sounds like he was a special young man. Heartbreaking to see such tragedy.

Only an idiot like TMJ would bet the over without knowing what it is.


12-1, if Steve Spurrier had coached the exact 2013 roster Miami had. At the very least, there's no way Steve Spurrier takes a lost against Duke. If there is no consensus on that the some of us need a psyche evaluation. Many coaches would have done more with Miami's 2013 roster.

Posted by: cool j | July 31, 2014 at 10:52 AM

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cool j and your many aliases,

Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do as you and your confederacy of dunces prove each and every day on this blog concerning Al Golden.

Are you haters EVER right about anything? You just make up lie after lie when failingly trying to bash Al Golden.

Based on you French kissing Steve Spurrier and dry humping his record proves once again what a complete phony you are (see Spurrier’s record over his first 5 years at South Carolina). If you had your way Spurrier should have been fired after his second season and he didn’t face the worst NCAA attack in the history of college football.

2005 Steve Spurrier 7–5

2006 Steve Spurrier 8–5

2007 Steve Spurrier 6–6

2008 Steve Spurrier 7–6

2009 Steve Spurrier 7–6

During this period Spurrier lost to Vanderbilt before Franklin was the coach when even Duke was beating Vanderbilt. And Spurrier’s team also lost to that football juggernaut Connecticut.


Fact: Spurrier is one of the greatest offensive minds the college game has seen. Why he left Gainesville is anybody's guess. Had a pro stint, but not cut out for NFL.
Fact: Petrino is in that same category.
'Goldy is not ven in the discussion.

Cool Cat,

So, if you are right and Spurrier is the one of the greatest coaches ever...then coach Golden having a better collective record that Spurrier over his first 3 years at their current schools stands to reason that Golden is an even better coach than Spurrier, especially when you factor in that Spurrier did not have to fight through the most brutal NCAA investigation in the history of college football.

Great point Cool Cat!!!

I'm interested in the success of Al Golden because I'm a Canes fan. I'd be a damn fool not to be on my own side.

Todd Blackledge noted on Twitter; "I'm good with Franklin, but would have preferred Al Golden."

Todd Blackledge is nobody, his opinion matters as much as my own!

Steve Spurrier was Coach of South Carolina at the time. Had already won a National Championship---He already had made his reputation in Coaching, but nice try!

Dark Skies---Golden hasn't proven anything, end of story! pressure starts now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHKeHt8PMZg

Great interview with AG. We're on the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvGA_7pb8FY

These guys look like studs. Heaps needs to do his thing.

Jimmy Johnson opined: "There's a lot of people who hate the University of Miami. A lot of them who are jealous of the University of Miami. What I feel bad about is Al Golden is such a solid, good, qualified person. He wants to do it the right way…he has inherited this mess and has to deal with it. There is no question that Al Golden is the right man to return Miami to championship football. Hopefully he will get past it and we will get past it. Again I hate that Al Golden got dragged into this thing because he is a really, really good coach and guy."

Frank Beamer commented; "He somehow got through that NCAA mess and made the program better," Beamer said. "Not just survive. He made it much better. He is doing a heck of a job. And I told him that too. He's gone in there and been a very steady, solid influence on that program that will become a force in the future."

Dwyer High School head football coach Jack Daniels said; "Bill Parcells is a huge Al Golden fan and just raves about him, as well as everybody else does. You know, I think the University of Miami is going to be back up with the elite very quickly."

He's a coaches' coach, and that's why these kids come to Miami. For what he has created. There's an energy in Miami that hasn't been there in a long time and all these kids need to do is believe.

Mahoney-Pearson--it's time to let that nipple go sir!
What each of those fine Coaches failed to comment on is the win loss record.
49-49 is just not good.
The Coaching profession is litered with the names of those who are "good guys" who are "likeable"--unfortunately likeable does not keep you employed, this is a results driven business. Stop the hero worship, will ya!

Posted by: Take A Time-Out and Be Thankf[]_[]l ... | July 31, 2014 at 02:25 PM

It's okay to have spirited discussion; we're not at war. The negativity comes from a lack of substance.. When one doesn't have the intellect or knowledge about that which they speak, they resort to the distraction and repetitive spin slogans/mantras to save face. Politicos do it all the time. It's a defensive tactic employed by the mental midget.

Don't entertain stupidity with acknowledgement. It only emboldens the nitwit and entrenches them in their delusion.

Just like 2015 recruiting class rankings, pre season rankings don't mean much. In fact the only thing this means is the the coaches have more respect for the Gator program and for Muschamp than they do for the cane program and their coaches. Why else would they think a 4 - 8 program with a much more difficult schedule will be better than a 9 - 4 program playing the usual cupcake schedule? The answer is that the only way the canes can muster 9 wins is due only to the fact they play a cupcake schedule and that 9 wins will not be repeated again. On the other hand they all recognize the fact that the 8 losses for Florida is an aberration and will also not be repeated again.
There, now the resident cane piggy wiggly will soon post his moronic dribble. But that will not change the facts and what the whole nation knows to be true outside of the Gables.
Go Gators!!!!!!!!!!
SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC

Posted by: jls14234 | July 31, 2014 at 02:48 PM

^^^^^

Back-peddle, back-peddle, back-peddle. Typical for the blog squirrel. Like a typical public diploma grad, you state the rankings don't mean much then proceed to claim they means something, not surprisingly in favor of the UFilth at the expense of your greatest nemesis, the MIGHTY MIAMI HURRICANES>

Read from those that know, blog squirrel:

An article in today's USA Today say Miami is the most underrated team in the country.

Joe Schad from ESPN complains that Mizzou, winners of the SEC LEast and pounders of the Gatr Trash, are unranked and that an awful Texas squad, with a new coach and multiple dismissals and discipline issues, finds itself in its "customary" top 25 slot without reason.

Also note that last year, the Gatr Trash were ranked top and we know how valid that was.

So, you see, blog squirrel, outside of maybe the top 5, these coaches rankings are in fact meaningless. And if you knew anything (which from reading your moronic post you don't), many coaches don't even cast their own ballot; their SID cast it. The old Marylad coach had his wife do it. The only "rankings" that count at this point are in the heads of recruits who rank UFilth in the 50's, just behind UAB and the Canes in the top 10.

But don't worry,squirrel. There is a whole fal to get punked by more recruits.

And, Uhhhhh,Go Gatah.

Posted by: The UFilth is punked again. | July 31, 2014 at 03:19 PM

FLORIDA'S BIG - 3

FSU

FLORIDA

UCF

FLORIDA'S BOTTOM - 4

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fau

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Posted by: u are still u ... Florida Bottom Feeding u ... | July 31, 2014 at 03:20 PM

" the 8 losses for Florida is an aberration and will also not be repeated again.."

The blog squirrel flunked logic:

UFilth records 3 of last 4 years.

7-7
6-6
4-8.


Yep, sure looks like 4-8 was an outlier.

BWWWAHAHAA. But go on and root for BAMA and LSU. They will pound you anwya.

Posted by: The UFilth is punked again. | July 31, 2014 at 03:21 PM

Posted by: u are still u ... Florida Bottom Feeding u ... | July 31, 2014 at 03:20 PM


Heeeeeeere come Mushmouf. Right on cue. Back to the welfare wagon for you, Hola Soldy Pig.

Posted by: Duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh | July 31, 2014 at 03:33 PM

Ummmmmm, apparently Tyree didn't think so when he punked you in your horribly disfigured trailerpark grill.


BWWWHAHAHAHAHAHA. Friday Night Punked performing annually at the UFilth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh | July 31, 2014 at 03:35 PM

The canes are the most underrated team in the country?? By far the funniest thing I've read yet, thanks for the laugh. I needed that after a long day. At least you found the one writer in the world that actually believes that. Probably a UM grad to boot.

Posted by: GatorAlum | July 31, 2014 at 04:14 PM

funny how jls offers a cease fire on the canes blog but then attacks like crazy any canes fans on here, even before they show up. Hamas in erng n blu, a cease fire means you cease firing, not that only one side ceases firing.

As for your LATEST bout of insanity:
UM in their last game against each of the teams on your list:

FSU - loss, they won the national title. Miami would be SECOND in the state if we are talking about this year, and FIRST if we are talking career performance.

Canes started the gator slide from ranked into a below .500 team as part of the list below.
FLORIDA - Won by 5 (after a late gift TD got it under double digits), NEVER trailed.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332502390
UCF - Won by 20, NEVER trailed.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=292902116
USF - Won by 28, NEVER trailed.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332710058
FAU - Won by 28, NEVER trailed.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332422390
FIU - Won by 14, NEVER trailed.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=272582390

WHY do you keep going with the lies jls? Especially when it is such fun proving you wrong?
Posted by: jls sucks and his brain can't compete. | July 31, 2014 at 04:22 PM

"due only to the fact they play a cupcake schedule and that 9 wins will not be repeated again"
Wow, and as for THIS lie, the last time Ufelony scheduled a non-conference opponent out of state, it was Syracuse way back in 1991, and after the loss to Miami in Miami, they are even afraid of the southern half of Florida. Heck, they would drop FSU if the Florida Legistlature had not stepped in.

Miami has gone to Oklahoma, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and now Nebraska in the meantime. Foley schedules cupcakes, Miami schedules tougher opponents than the gators for the games they can control.
Posted by: jls sucks and his brain can't compete. | July 31, 2014 at 04:28 PM

Hey stupid cane slob, the record of the last three years are:

4-8
11-2
7-6

Even dummies like you should have access to the internet to look it up you e'fing idiot.

Posted by: PeeU | July 31, 2014 at 04:42 PM

Posted by: jls sucks and his brain can't compete. |

You are one uninformed, delusional, misguided and moronic cane piggy.

I have not offered any "cease fire" on the cane blog or any other blog. I am not a participant in your stupid made up "war".

This is the first time I am the first to post, usually you, the resident no life cane piggy is first. And second. And third, fourth and fifth. You are probably mad I posted before you did this one time.

You have the gall to complain about "attacks like crazy any cane fans here". I merely defend my school from your slander and lies. Besides there should not be "any cane fan here", especially the stupid retards we have to deal with every day, like you.
Yes I launched a preemptive jab at you fools and right on cue you blabbered your 6 posts of crap.

The list you speak of is not mine you stupid idiot.
I happen to agree with it though. So do the nation's coaches.

Then you end your moronic posts talking up SOS. Again you come out sounding like the fool you are when it is a fact we play one of the top SOS in the nation year in and year out. You are the opposite.
The ones who need to schedule tough "non-conference opponent out of state" are those who play in a crap conference and don't have good in State rivals. That would be you. Crap conference is the ACC. Your in State rival would be FAU or FAMU. Of course you need to play Nebraska and Louisville. Your two toughest opponents outside of FSU. Big whoop.
In a real conference like the SEC we play much tougher opponents every year. Bama and So Carolina are much tougher than Nebraska and Louisville and much tougher than any ACC team save for FSU.
FSU is our in State rival, doesn't get much tougher than that.
Again your posts show that you are an uninformed douche bag.
Posted by: jls14234 | July 31, 2014 at 04:48 PM

jls in his PEE U ID:
"Hey stupid cane slob, the record of the last three years are:"

Meanwhile, proving yet again that he can't READ, the quote by "The UFilth is punked again." was:
"UFilth records 3 of last 4 years."
What part of three of the last four do you not UNDERSTAND, troll?

Posted by: jls sucks and his brain can't compete. | July 31, 2014 at 04:55 PM

"you state the rankings don't mean much then proceed to claim they means something,"

Don't mean much is not the same as Don't mean squat
Don't mean much means they have little meaning but some meaning at that. If not I would have said they have no meaning or for you to understand better "they don't mean nothing".
Try to get some online classes or go to a local high school for night classes so you can understand the meaning of the written word. Try a little reading comprehension it will do you good.
Stupid canes. Is there any other kind?

Posted by: jls14234 | July 31, 2014 at 04:56 PM

Funny how these Miami Morons are so obsessed with me they attribute every other post to me. They even see me on the cane blog when I'm not there.
Must be that the truth I post about hurts.
Stupid cane slob, I like that one.

Posted by: jls14234 | July 31, 2014 at 05:00 PM

"You are one uninformed, delusional, misguided and moronic cane piggy."
Can't win on points, attack the messenger. Typical gator troll behavior, attacking first in his little "war" with the Canes fans.

"I have not offered any "cease fire" on the cane blog or any other blog."
Right. It was not you, the obsessed gator with the many IDs. Sure.

"I am not a participant in your stupid made up "war"."
No? You fired the first shot, as usual, in typical Hamas fashion, and now complain when we defend ourselves, in typical Hamas fashion.

"This is the first time I am the first to post"
Yet ANOTHER lie. Let's just look back at a couple threads to see who posted first.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gator_clause/2014/07/about-that-summer-optimism-gators-unranked-in-preseason-coaches-poll.html#comments
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gator_clause/2014/07/florida-14-five-toughest-games.html
And that is just in the past month, AND not counting your other IDs.

"usually you, the resident no life cane piggy is first."
Ahh, for someone not fighting a war, you sure do alot of shooting, Hamas style.
"And second. And third, fourth and fifth. You are probably mad I posted before you did this one time."
Nope. Happy to have proven you wrong, troll.

"You have the gall to complain about "attacks like crazy any cane fans here"."
Yep, because even if a Canes fan just compliment's Jesse's writing, you rip them on here, and on the Canes blog.

"I merely defend my school from your slander and lies."
Please show my slander and lies. I posted FACTS, with LINKS, in response to YOUR lies.

"Besides there should not be "any cane fan here","
Oh, so it is okay for you to attack our blog daily, but how dare anyone respond in kind and defend their team and their fanbase. What a hypocrite you are, piggy.

"especially the stupid retards we have to deal with every day, like you."
Ahh, projecting yet again, I see. I provided facts with links, you provided more insults and no proof to back up your claims. And of course, if I am a retard, then you are picking on the handicapped, which is your TYPICAL troll behavior, as well.

"Yes I launched a preemptive jab at you fools and right on cue you blabbered your 6 posts of crap."
One post, proving you wrong, fool. There ARE other Canes fans on here, and you know it, but keep on with the belief that you are facing one opponent and losing.

"The list you speak of is not mine you stupid idiot. I happen to agree with it though. So do the nation's coaches."
Really? So, FAU, FIU, USF are ranked ahead of Miami by the coaches? ANOTHER lie that Jesse has ALREADY told you that you are wrong on. You deny the insult, but then agree with the insult, DESPITE multiple facts against you. Typical Hamas troll behavior. You probably deny the Holocaust as well, right troll?

"Then you end your moronic posts talking up SOS."
No, I REBUTTED your claim that we schedule cupcakes.

"Again you come out sounding like the fool you are when it is a fact we play one of the top SOS in the nation year in and year out."
Another insult, and another lie. YOUR OOC schedule is the weakest in the nation, outside of your annual forced facing of FSU.
Just because Georgia Southern beat you doesn't mean they are suddenly a tough SOS team, troll.

"Crap conference is the ACC."
ACC won the title last year, fool.

"Your in State rival would be FAU or FAMU."
Nope, FSU is our rival, again you have no clue, troll.

"Of course you need to play Nebraska and Louisville."
No, we CHOOSE to play them, unlike you. You duck opponents like Miami, Nebraska, or Louisville.

"Your two toughest opponents outside of FSU. Big whoop."
And YOUR tougherst opponent OOC outside of FSU is who?
Idaho? Eastern Michigan? or Eastern Kentucky? God, what a guantlet...

"In a real conference like the SEC we play much tougher opponents every year."
When you go 4-8, I guess everyone looks tough, even Vandy and Kentucky and Tennessee.

"Again your posts show that you are an uninformed douche bag."
You really love that phrase, you have used it often on the Canes blog, too. In fact, you are the ONLY one that uses it, so it helps show that you are acting innocent, but are obviously guilty, troll.

Posted by: jls14234 the Hamas troll| July 31, 2014 at 04:48 PM
Posted by: jls sucks and his brain can't compete. | July 31, 2014 at 05:19 PM

Funny how you are so obsessed with the Canes that you attribute all the posts on here to me, but use a phrase like Miami Morons to be plural. Make up your mind, are you warring with one opponent, Hamas, or are you facing an army of the just like Hamas is facing?

You attribute every other post to me, you even see me on the Gator blog on days that I'm not here.

Must be that the truth I post about hurts.
Stupid Hamas troll jls, I like that one.
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If you would back off, there would be no reason for us to be here, troll. But, with each lie, insult, and rocket launched into our blog, you get a little payback. The choice is yours, and you chose war.
Posted by: jls sucks and his brain can't compete. | July 31, 2014 at 05:23 PM

Jesse, I love the picture. Is that the whole team blocking itself? No wonder Tyree St. Louis chose the Canes over the Gators.

Posted by: Tyree punked the Gators. | July 31, 2014 at 05:25 PM

At least you found the one writer in the world that actually believes that. Probably a UM grad to boot.
Posted by: GatorAlum | July 31, 2014 at 04:14 PM
At least that is one more writer than believes the claim that you and JLS "agree" with that Miami is below USF, FAU, and FIU. One writer > Zero writers, unless yu count guys like "PEE U" and "u are u" as "writers". But then, with all the IDs you use to attack the Canes blog, you likely say you have a HUNDRED writers on your side.

Posted by: jls sucks and his brain can't compete. | July 31, 2014 at 05:29 PM

Pee u. Calling someone a stupid slob when you clearly didn't read his post properly makes you look stupid.
Love the "jlo sucks and his brain can't compete" screen name.
Whoever said the big three in Florida is a moron. You were beaten by one of your bottom four and ucf would have beaten you also. Gotta use that brain before you type. And you wonder why you have that uf stereotype.
In other news.....urban Meyers wife said uf has the dirtiest, nastiest fans as anyone incollege football. That's not from a fan, that's a first hand source.

Posted by: 5*'s 4 wins 8 loses | July 31, 2014 at 05:35 PM

A lot of you guys have some good points. Well,except for staylo and pee u.

Posted by: Harriet Tubman Gator | July 31, 2014 at 05:52 PM

rumor has it the turds will lose ANOTHER recruit soon

Posted by: turds can't score 15 points a game | July 31, 2014 at 06:07 PM

Uf fans make fun of the Acc. I'm pretty sure 2 Acc teams beat Uf last yr and of course Fsu won natl title. And Uf's 100plus ranked offense the last 3 yrs had to get Duke's(acc) offensive coordinator to try to fix that putrid offense! And this week Fsu, Um and Clemson(all acc) all beat Uf out for recruits Uf desperately needed! Recruits know Muschump is a dead man walking. Charley Strong would be cleaning up if Foley had been smart enough to hire him. Maybe sorry gators should join Acc. Go Canes! from a canes fan since 1959

Posted by: dunnelloncane | July 31, 2014 at 07:02 PM

Well all of the above ibis manure proves what I have said before but ignore every once in a while. There is no point arguing with these idiots, they get worse and more delusional each passing day. Now the head Moron is comparing his made up "war" with the trouble in the Middle East, what an imbecile!
Go ahead and keep talking among yourselves stupid cane slobs, I will not answer you anymore.
Can't wait for the season to begin.
Let's go Gators!

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gator_clause/2014/07/about-that-summer-optimism-gators-unranked-in-preseason-coaches-poll.html#storylink=cpy

Al Golden was named head football coach at Temple University in December 2005, as the second-youngest head coach in NCAA football at that time. Temple had a record of 3–31 during the three years before Golden was hired, and had just been thrown out of the Big East Conference for non-competitiveness.

Additionally, prior to Golden’s arrival the program came perilously close to being abolished due to the total disrepair it had fallen into.

After the first 3 years of rebuilding Golden coached the Owls to a stunningly remarkable 2008 7–4 record, which was the best result in over 18 years. Then, the Owls finished the 2009 regular season at 9–3, their best record in 30 years.

The Owls went on to face the UCLA Bruins in the Eagle Bank Bowl on December 29, 2009. Despite an incredible game plan and game day coaching and after leading for three quarters, the Owls fell to the Bruins 30–21 simply due to not having the necessary depth to close out what would have been an upset for the decades.

Golden’s overhaul of the Temple Owls football program is widely accepted as one of the greatest turnarounds in college football history. Not one college football expert predicted that the Owls would even survive.

Golden was interviewed and offered the vacant head coaching position at UCLA in December 2007. However, he withdrew his name from consideration on December 26, 2007, due to his loyalty chose to stay with his up-and-coming Temple program.

Following the 2009 season, he was heavily recruited for the head coaching position at the University of Cincinnati vacated by Brian Kelly, who departed for Notre Dame. He later asked that his name be withdrawn from consideration from that position. That same offseason, he was also the top candidate for the job at Tennessee vacated by Lane Kiffin, who went to Southern California. In May 2010, Golden signed a contract extension with Temple through 2014. He led the Owls to an impressive 8–4 record in 2010.

On December 12, 2010, ESPN reported that Golden was offered and accepted the head coaching job at the University of Miami.

When it was rumored that Brian Kelly was considering leaving Notre Dame for the NFL it was leaked from the highest levels of the Notre Dame administration that Golden would be the number one candidate to replace Kelly should he leave.

In press conference remarks upon his hiring on December 13, 2010, Golden emphasized the importance of the University of Miami football legacy. "It's the most recognizable brand in college football," he said. "I go back to the former players that are here, the five national championships, 20 national award winners, countless All-Americans, incredible tradition. It's a dream job."

Golden posted a 6–6 record in his first year at Miami after taking over a program that had been left in shambles. Then, a major NCAA investigation was announced that placed the football programs very existence in jeopardy. Despite being bowl-eligible, Miami announced on November 20 that it was withdrawing from bowl consideration due to the ongoing investigation into the program's ties to convicted Ponzi schemer Nevin Shapiro.

The Hurricanes registered a 7-5 record in 2012 and were crowned Coastal Division champions, but opted not to play in the game as yet another step of self-sanctioning due to the Shapiro matter. With the NCAA investigation still not resolved it took a heavy toll on Miami’s recruiting efforts that left the roster largely absent of talent and depth. On November 19 Miami announced it was withdrawing from bowl consideration for a second consecutive season, along with the already announced withdrawal from the ACC Championship Game. Reportedly, school officials cited that Ohio State opted to play in a bowl game in the 2011 season with an NCAA investigation still underway only to be banned from bowl consideration the following year.

A native of Colts Neck, New Jersey, Golden graduated from Red Bank Catholic High School, Red Bank, New Jersey, and earned his undergraduate degree in pre-law from Pennsylvania State University in 1991 before receiving his master’s in sports psychology from the University of Virginia, one of the nations most respected learning institutions, in December 1996. A 2004 inductee of the New Jersey Sports Hall of Fame, he is married to Kelly Elizabeth Hanna of Lock Haven, Pennsylvania, and has a son, A.J., and two daughters, Addison and Grace.

Rabbleidiot, no one except you and your tiny circle of girlfriends cares what Golden's record was at temple. We care about here, and mainly from now on.

Posted by: Gator pig on a wild rampage | July 31, 2014 at 07:37 PM

Why are you here and not in a mental institution?

21-16

4 & 8

Georgia Southern a Division IV team Humiliated your girls

You quit the Miami series for a...second time!

The Canes have beat you the last 8 out of 9 games

Miami leads the overall series

Ah hell...the list is endless!


Todd Blackledge noted on Twitter; "I'm good with Franklin, but would have preferred Al Golden."

Todd Blackledge is nobody, his opinion matters as much as my own!

Posted by: Rabblerouser | July 31, 2014 at 06:45 PM

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Okay...who am I to tell you that you are wrong...you claim that a nobody's opinion matters as much as your opinion...finally we agree!!!!!!!!!

Mahoney-Pearson--it's time to let that nipple go sir!
What each of those fine Coaches failed to comment on is the win loss record.
49-49 is just not good.
The Coaching profession is litered with the names of those who are "good guys" who are "likeable"--unfortunately likeable does not keep you employed, this is a results driven business. Stop the hero worship, will ya!

Posted by: Rabblerouser | July 31, 2014 at 07:03 PM

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Nah. You fail to point to the trend and state of the program today as opposed to when he came. Your understanding of football and this subject is as superficial as the way you use that record to disparage what AG has done despite the widely acknowledged "mess" he inherited and had 'to deal with it". A mess he did "not just survive...but made it much better".

You're arguing with respected championship coaches that have a far better understanding and perspective about the job AG has done, not me. Your response is in a manner so typical of your limited understanding that it's futile to educate or correct you. You want results? Great, so does everyone else; that's not a unique or remarkable stance. All true []_[] fans hate losses and want to see the dominant product we are accustomed to on the field. The shouldn't prevent one from acknowledging the work AG has done.

When obese people lose weight rapidly with surgery or other quick fixes, they gain it all back, and then some. They felt sexier, but they didn't change their behavior. AG understands this has to be vein deep. The topical big-name Charlie Weiss hire may look sexy, but it takes time and commitment to truly make a complete transformation.

No matter what manner of nonsense you and your shark-jumping crew spin, AG is "a really, really good coach" and the []_[] "will become a force in the future."


The force is strong. The tide is turning. Category five hurricane is brewing.

"The Hurricanes registered a 7-5 record in 2012 and were crowned Coastal Division champions, but opted not to play in the game as yet another step of self-sanctioning due to the Shapiro matter. With the NCAA investigation still not resolved it took a heavy toll on Miami’s recruiting efforts that left the roster largely absent of talent and depth. On November 19 Miami announced it was withdrawing from bowl consideration for a second consecutive season, along with the already announced withdrawal from the ACC Championship Game. Reportedly, school officials cited that Ohio State opted to play in a bowl game in the 2011 season with an NCAA investigation still underway only to be banned from bowl consideration the following year."

preach it!

"Uf fans make fun of the Acc. I'm pretty sure 2 Acc teams beat Uf last yr and of course Fsu won natl title. And Uf's 100plus ranked offense the last 3 yrs had to get Duke's(acc) offensive coordinator to try to fix that putrid offense! And this week Fsu, Um and Clemson(all acc) all beat Uf out for recruits Uf desperately needed! Recruits know Muschump is a dead man walking. Charley Strong would be cleaning up if Foley had been smart enough to hire him. Maybe sorry gators should join Acc. Go Canes! from a canes fan since 1959"

Posted by: dunnelloncane | July 31, 2014 at 07:02 PM

Yup.

HUUUUUUUGH 6-4/310 get for the GATORS !!! Offered by, ALABAMA, LSU, GEORGIA, LSU, TEXAS, FSU, OKLAHOMA... ALL TOP-10 PROGRAMS... He will be a DT at FLORIDA... Yo del[]_[]sional d[]_[]mb cane cl[]_[]ck spl[]_[][]_[][]_[]ge... Got DT's ?

Four-star linebacker Adonis Thomas, a close friend of Horton’s from Lawrenceville (Ga.)(also offered by ALABAMA, LSU, GEORGIA, LSU and FSU, Ohio St. Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas AM and 20 other offers) will announce at 6:30 p.m. between Florida and Alabama tomorrow and be ALL GATOR TOO !!!

.

The Florida football team landed a huge Georgia recruit on Thursday and could get another one Friday.


Atlanta Lakeside two-way offensive lineman/ defensive tackle Mike Horton pledged to UF over offers from Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Ohio State, among others.

On his Twitter account, Horton wrote: “I am officially a Florida Gator ... Only gators get out alive!”

He was offered by UF after attending the Florida State game last November and returned for the Orange & Blue Debut on April 12. The 6-foot-4, 310-pounder is a member of the ESPN300.

Four-star #64 ESPN Overall linebacker Adonis Thomas, a close friend of Horton’s from Lawrenceville (Ga.) Central Gwinnett, announces Friday at 6:30 p.m. between Florida and Alabama.


ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GATOR !!!

Mike Horton - 6-5, 318 | 40: 5.58 | Class of 2015

Status Committed Florida 07/31/2014

Hey looky ... Brad Kaaya might be able to beat him 2 outta 3 in the 40.

In what sense are the turds #1----girls darts?

Hey looky ... Brad Kaaya might be able to beat him 2 outta 3 in the 40.

actually pretty funny

You're arguing with respected championship coaches that have a far better understanding and perspective about the job AG has done, not me. Your response is in a manner so typical of your limited understanding that it's futile to educate or correct you. You want results? Great, so does everyone else;?????
Posted by: Mahoney-Pearson | July 31, 2014


I didn't know any Coaches were here on this blog to argue with. Furthermore, I state facts easily supported by lots of data. I apologize for the overkill but I'm really disappointed in guys like you who've become comfortable getting "shellacked" by Louisville, let alone FSU, losing to schools like Duke and coming in here like you can't understand the frustration in a fan like myself. Do you even know what a Rabblerouser does?
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Comedy at it's finest!
Rabbleidiot, no one except you and your tiny circle of girlfriends cares what Golden's record was at temple. We care about here, and mainly from now on.

Posted by: GatorKillerCane | July 31, 2014
GatorMoronCane: OK his UM record is 22-15 with a claim to fame of beating your heralded Gators in a down year. UM record 6-6, 7-5, 9-4--so you can say the record has gotten better each year, if you want to. I say examine last year's schedule closely. What does it reveal to you?

So Golden is well liked in the Coaching profession. Congratulations!

So Golden is liked by the Trustees. Congratulations!

So Golden has the backing of UM President Shalala. That's great too!

Listen: Here's the video of the Coach at end of 2nd season. Played 22 Freshman, started 10---His own prediction for success was 4-5 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ug95uPCp7Bc

I want this Coach held to the same standard as his predecessors. Win or go home.

P.S. I've been here for years buddy. If you want to do better in the girlfriend department--wear your dentures before you leave your house in the morning. They'll also help you to articulate your speech better.

Correction... The ENTIRE COUNTRY makes fun of ur acc...

SEC is (287-139-10) against ACC

Average score: SEC 23.3 - ACC 16.5

In bowl games: SEC is (36-19) against ACC

Average score: SEC 28.5 - ACC 18.9


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ACC once dreamed of challenging SEC for football supremacy. What happened?


Seven SEC national championship later (and the chance for an eighth), it's easy to forget what college football looked like before the SEC took control. Florida State's return to the national stage represents a blast from the past for the ACC.

A decade ago, there was real public dialogue about the ACC challenging the SEC's football supremacy in the Southeast. After all, once the post-expansion ACC debuted in 2004, ACC membership included six of the first 12 participants to play for the BCS championship. The Big 12 had three of those teams, and the SEC had just two.

Miami had just won a national title in 2001 and lost another in 2002. Virginia Tech had won at least 10 games five times between 1995 and 2002, and played for the national title after the 1999 season. Boston College tended to win seven to nine games a year and regularly won bowl games.

Bobby Bowden, Florida State's coach at the time, bragged in 2004 that by adding Miami "the state of Florida is going to learn about the ACC" and that "the stepbrother is down in Gainesville." Tommy Tuberville, Auburn's coach then, went a step further.

"When they added Miami, Florida State, Boston College and Virginia Tech, it became a conference that rivals the SEC," Tuberville said in November 2005 while complaining about the lack of SEC exposure on ESPN. "I thought all along we should have added teams like that. It's great for exposure; it's great for recruiting. The ACC beat us to the punch."

Florida State's trip to the BCS Championship Game this season against underdog Auburn marks the ACC's first shot at a national title since the Seminoles lost to Oklahoma in the 2000 season. It has been 13 long years for a conference that was built on basketball and started the wave of realignment over the past decade due to football.

"I'm very much a realist and I see the cycles individual schools and conferences go through," ACC Commissioner John Swofford said. "I think maybe fans and media pay a little more attention to (evaluating conferences against each other) than some of us in the profession. Some of this is cyclical. We're hopefully on an up cycle."

The ACC was a nine-member conference the last time it played for the national title, not a 14-member league. Along the way, Maryland will soon leave the ACC, Notre Dame will arrive as a full member except in football, Pittsburgh and Syracuse joined the conference, and Louisville is on its way. Swofford also had to stave off more ACC schools leaving for other conferences, including very public rumors about Florida State.

Florida State's board of trustees expressed disappointment in May 2012 at the ACC's new media rights deal. Andy Haggard, the board's chair, publicly criticized the ACC and wanted the Seminoles to look into joining the Big 12, which wasn't adding members.

Swofford said the ACC's future "looked more precarious from the outside looking in than the inside looking out," but acknowledged Maryland's departure surprised the league. So the ACC's remaining members pooled their Grant of Rights together, meaning each school's media rights transferred to the conference as a stick that would make any school leaving unattractive to another conference.

"It helped quiet the rumors, as unfounded as they may have been," Swofford said. "I think it settled the landscape, not only for us, but from a national perspective."

Thank-you calls came to Swofford's office from around the country.

"I think almost everybody had reached a point of fatigue (with conference realignment)," Swofford said. "We had been a prominent part of that over the last decade or so. I think everybody really wanted a period of stability where we all knew who would be in what conference. We ended up with five equity conferences."

Money pays off for SEC

The truth is, there's nothing equitable about the SEC vs. the ACC in football compared to where the leagues once resided. The SEC blew by the ACC -- and everyone else.

Back in 2005-06, the year before the SEC's national championship streak began, the SEC reported $138.7 million in total revenue and its average payout to members was $10.2 million. That same year, the ACC had $148.9 million in revenue for a $10.9 million payout.

By 2011-12, the SEC's revenue ($273.1 million) easily trumped the ACC ($223.6 million). The SEC was paying schools on average $20.4 million, compared to $16.9 million for the average ACC school.

Thanks to expanding again, the ACC revised its rights deal with ESPN that will increase the payout to an average of $20 million per school each year. The SEC's payout is expected to remain higher, especially as revenue kicks in from the SEC Network with ESPN in future years.

The ACC's Grant of Rights has allowed the conference to explore the possibility over the next two to three years of its own network with ESPN.

"It's exciting to look at the possibilities that are there," Swofford said. "The SEC has a similar relationship with ESPN as we do. Our arrangements are not exactly alike, but certainly more similar than they are different. We're interested in how things flow with the SEC channel."

Swofford added that the ACC currently has "tremendous coverage" with its syndicated television package so "a channel doesn't necessarily bring us greater coverage. You have to watch and evaluate that. Every conference is a little different. We've got more private institutions than other major conferences with five being private."

An analysis projects that the ACC will have the highest U.S. population of any conference over the next 10 to 15 years, Swofford said. By 2030, Swofford said 55 percent of the population will be in the ACC footprint.

"And obviously a lot of that footprint is the SEC footprint as well," Swofford said. "I think we've got a lot of things to build on. I think we've had a lot of good football teams between the decade or so without having a team in the national championship. It's just our best teams have not made it to national championship level."

There is a difference, though, between having a national-championship caliber program, and having several contenders. Four SEC teams have won the national title since the ACC's last championship appearance.

Tommy Bowden, a former Clemson coach and now a TV analyst, thought early in the year this might be the season for the ACC to show greater depth. At one point, Florida State, Clemson and Miami were in the top 10, and Virginia Tech, Duke and Maryland were ranked.

Then Florida State crushed host Clemson. Clemson lost to South Carolina in the trenches. Virginia Tech, Miami and Maryland lost some games. And only Florida State was a national contender.

"Duke signed one four- or five-star player in the past five years, and Duke runs through the ACC with 10 wins," Bowden said. "Ten years ago, it was a different conference. Ralph Friedgen was winning, Jim Grobe was winning, Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Tyrod Taylor and Michael Vick were there (as quarterbacks; Vick never played in the ACC). It's not the same league."

ACC vs. SEC head-to-head changed dramatically

From 1999 to 2003, the ACC and SEC split 36 head-to-head games between the conferences. Clemson, Florida State and Georgia Tech went a combined 10-5 in their series against ACC rivals South Carolina, Florida and Georgia, respectively.

Expansion gave the ACC new optimism. A decade ago, reporters and coaches entertained the thought of the ACC surpassing the SEC.

"None of us ever becomes great by being complacent," SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said in 2004, responding to ACC expansion. "We feel the competition. We know the competition. We welcome the competition. We are the best. They're going to have their work cut out for them."

Since 2004, the SEC has a 51-28 record vs. the ACC. That includes a 22-8 mark by South Carolina, Florida and Georgia against their respective ACC rivals.

Tommy Bowden has a theory as to why the SEC pulled so far ahead of the ACC: Money and academics. Not only is the SEC willing to spend money to make money, Bowden said, but the SEC has the academic curriculums to help players stay eligible.

"A lot of ACC teams want to be in the SEC on Saturday and in the Ivy Leagues Monday through Friday," Bowden said. "By that I mean public education in the Southeast is not highly rated. You need to have curriculums where players can get in and get eligible and get their degree.

"I'm not sure the ACC presidents understand those intangibles you need. You need all that, but the president has to calm the faculty down. Most of the time, the faculty really don't like it. North Carolina tried it a couple years ago. Didn't work real good."

The Tar Heels went all-in on football when they hired Butch Davis as coach. Instead, North Carolina suffered NCAA violations and has been embroiled in an academic fraud scandal involving football players.

It's doubtful the ACC will ever care enough about football the way SEC fans and schools do, for better and for worse. That drive to compete and win breeds "a different animal" in the SEC, said Bowden, a former Alabama and Auburn assistant coach.

"We worry about our league and being the best we can possibly be and reaching our full potential," said Swofford, who has been commissioner since 1997.

To keep the ACC relatively intact, Swofford had to try to get the ACC to better embrace football a decade ago. That's where the money was headed in college sports.

"When I took over as commissioner of the ACC (in 1987), I'd say 75 percent of our money came from basketball," former ACC Commissioner Gene Corrigan said. "It's hard to imagine that now. We had to fight and claw to get into the Bowl Alliance and BCS. I don't think many people wanted us or the Big East."

This isn't your father's ACC. Football and television money changed that look. Swofford hopes it won't be another decade before we hear from the ACC again in football on the national stage.

"I think this year is terrific to build off of and make this more of the norm than the exception," he said.



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