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Notes from Thursday's Canes practice: Ice Harris talks becoming an assistant; Golden has high praise for Heaps

When Tim "Ice" Harris rejoined the Miami Hurricanes staff back in March as the assistant director of football operations, his plan was to finish his final year of college so he could put himself in position to become an assistant coach should a position open. 

That opportunity came a little earlier than  expected. When linebackers coach Micheal Barrow stepped away last week to go on sabbatical, coach Al Golden decided it was time to make Harris, who spent 24 years coaching in South Florida at the high school level, a full member of his coaching staff.

“God is good, you know?," Harris said Thursday after practice, his third day as UM's running backs coach. "He definitely sets things up for you when you least expect it, but if you do things the right way, you definitely get your blessings. It’s an awesome blessing and I’m so excited to be in the position that I’m in, and I’m running with it.

“This is something I’ve been waiting for my whole life, you know. The hard work that you put in doing things the right way at the high school level, developing young people and then to have an opportunity to be the running backs coach at the University of Miami, it’s a dream come true.”

Although it's not an NCAA requirement for a college coach to have a degree, it is a standard colleges want their coaches to meet. Harris, 48, said he's at the tail-end of completing his degree in business administration and is just "waiting on some grades, some final stuff to finish up." He said Thursday he thinks he'll be finishing school just before September starts. 

"It's going to be different and exciting [being on the other end of recruiting and going into high schools]," Harris said. "But one thing they're going to be able to see is when we talk about dreams and goals and stuff we always set out to do they can actually somebody of my magnitude, it doesn't matter how old you are, how long it takes, if you're doing things the right way dreams will come true because time will pass by."

Barrow was arguably Miami's best recruiter in South Florida. Harris said Golden still hasn't decided which areas he will absorb in recruiting, but it's hard to imagine a man who has coached at Miami High, Northwestern, Central and Booker T. Washington wouldn't be asked to try and corner the market in his backyard.

"He's a guy that a lot of families and players can relate to," running back Duke Johnson said. "Just to have him coaching us is exciting. Just knowing he comes from the area where I'm from and knows what it takes to be successful and he's going to install upon us to be successful. I'm just excited to see what he's going to bring and help us learn."

Harris, known for his expressive behavior on the sideline and not being one afraid to chew a player out, was asked if he might give offensive line coach Art Kehoe a run for the title for feistiest Canes assistant.

"Oh, no," Harris said. ""Art Kehoe, he's got me. He's a true veteran. I haven't caught up with him. [I'm] just going to focus on development. Whatever we have to do to get them to be developed -- take their talent and game to the next level, understanding this team's mission -- that's what I'm going to focus on."

GOLDEN HAS HIGH PRAISE FOR HEAPS

Golden had high praise for Jake Heaps Thursday, who again took the majority of reps with the first team at quarterback. Freshman Brad Kaaya also received work with the ones.

“Just a complete understanding, poise, experience, very coachable, not an error-repeater," Golden said. "Anything you correct, he gets fixed. Pleasure to work with right now.”

Told by a reporter Heaps seems to be making the extra effort to connect with his offensive line and teammates, Golden responded: “He’s that kind of guy. Glad he’s here. Mature, grateful, and doing a great job trying to bring it all together for us.”

Although he overthrew the speedy Stacy Coley and Phillip Dorsett on a pair of long passes, Heaps had several highlights on Thursday including a nine-yard touchdown pass during 11-on-11s. His most impressive throw was to sophomore Malcolm Lewis. Heaps showed nice touch on a corner route, delivering a perfect pass over the safety and for a 30-yard gain.

> Golden mentioned defensive linemen Chad Thomas, Anthony Moten and Demetrius Jackson as freshman who could all compete for playing time this season. He also said freshman Darrion Owens is fighting for a starting job as the strongside linebacker. Owens has been wearing a black jersey -- designated for starters -- the first three days of camp.

"We’ve got a long way to go, but certainly those guys are going to help us,” Golden said.

> Senior receiver Rashawn Scott, suspended twice in his career by Golden, was wearing an orange jersey (designated for offensive starters) Thursday for the first time in camp. What has Golden seen out of Scott lately?

“More maturity right now, more focus," he said. "He’s just got to stay with the structure, be around good people, keep making good decisions and he’ll allow his talent to come to the surface. I think that’s the biggest thing with Rashawn. He’s done a great job this summer. I’m proud of him. Clearly, he’s come back in the best shape of his life because he’s playing good football right now.”

> Why is Coley in a white, non-starter jersey?

“Stacy’s doing good," Golden said. "It’s just a deeper position than it was a year ago. It’s deeper and Tyre [Brady] and [Braxton Berrios] tightened it up for us. Again, Phillip healthy, Herb healthy, Malcolm healthy, much different group and Rashawn back, much different group."

> Freshman running back Joseph Yearby missed Wednesday's practice because he was sick the night before. Yearby was back at practice Thursday. "We were prudent with him," Golden said. "We held him out. We didn’t like where he was at at 2 o’clock, we held him out. That’s it. I’m moving on.”

> Thursday was the first day the Hurricanes donned shoulder pads in camp. Miami spent the previous two days in only helmets. The team will be in helmets and shoulder pads again Friday. They will move into full pads on Saturday.

AUDIO CENTER

Here is what the folks down at UM were talking about after Thursday's practice -- the third of the fall.

AUDIO: Al Golden talks about how Jake Heaps has looked in practice

AUDIO: Ice Harris talks about being hired as an assistant coach and what it means to him

AUDIO: Receiver Malcolm Lewis on his return from injury and Phillip Dorsett's eye-opening 40-time

AUDIO: Tight end Standish Dobard on his development and new teammate Raphael Akpejiori

AUDIO: Sophomore Walter Tucker discusses his move back to linebacker and his role as a two-way player

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"The Division I board of Directors approved the first step toward an informal aristocracy in college football's top 5 power conferences".

This means after a formality by way of vote the big boys ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, & Pac 12--can add more value to their scholarships, improve insurance, allow players to consult agents, provide a larger stipend, more spending money, or provide to players, however each Conference sees fit.

Now, all this is very new so don't attack the messenger----just know the rich get richer, while the poor gets poorer!
The big donor programs will be flush with cash.

College football won't change that much rabble. They are still limited on scholarshipsamong other tthings the only that will be effected is sports that don't make money will disappear. Its not like there will be free reign for everyone. There are still rules and they will still be governed by the NCAA.UM has money....they just choose to spend it on making the university as a whole better.

If your assessment is correct Texas will own college football from here on out.

Gotta agree with Rabble on this one. This doesn't help us. This will ultimately benefit the Texas's, Alabama's, Florida's and Ohio State's of the world.

our DT's are fat and out of shape... our DE's are either Overweight and slow or undersized and great on the track.

other than that, our Linebackers are beyond thin, Safeties are as good as Highsmith hopefully and we score 38 points a game.

Its not like anything goes. There will still be rules. Besides, money didn't win us 5 titles and put us in countless other championship games.

You must of hit your head or something bro!


Gotta agree with Rabble on this one. This doesn't help us. This will ultimately benefit the Texas's, Alabama's, Florida's and Ohio State's of the world.

Posted by: championships is all that matters | August 07, 2014 at 09:00 PM
You guys, I'm not so sure about this one! We do have trustees with deep pockets and afterall, we're a private institution. We just don't want to fire Golden anytime soon and have to pay his contract which runs til 2020. He recieved an extension coming off the loss to Boston College after just one year on the job. It was dumb for UM to add years to his deal, despite the threat of sanctions in my opinion because nobody wants to be committed long term to coach who has yet to prove himself on the field. UM could have done a one or two year extension but 4? Bringing his contract to 9 years? (Sanction guys stick it!)
So believe me! most UM observers want the Rabblerouser to be wrong! completely wrong with his predictions but here we are at season 4 and the jury is still out.

HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH ON THIS TOPIC:

HAVING TIM "ICE" HARRIS AS ASSISTANT COACH AND RECRUITER FOR CANES IS
H-U-G-E for Miami....

This guy is known and respected in all of Dade, Broward and Palm Beach...

He is going to bring us major improvements in keeping South Florida going to The U...

And if her proves himself as coach at the college level, he certainly COULD BE a future head coach at UM if Golden ever moves on to more golden pastures....

Don't hear much squawking from HTC, Calvin, Cane72 about why one of America's BEST HIGHSCHOOL COACH would take a job with UM if Golden sucked so bad????

Keep talking your made up trash....still doesn't make you right about anything or any prediction of gloom for my Canes...

ICE has 3-4 incredible RB's to train up....he's in the sweet spot at UM for sure....


And a few more committed commander

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Great post Commander Cane!

Golden had high praise for Jake Heaps Thursday, who again took the majority of reps with the first team at quarterback. Freshman Brad Kaaya also received work with the ones.

“Just a complete understanding, poise, experience, very coachable, not an error-repeater," Golden said. "Anything you correct, he gets fixed. Pleasure to work with right now.”

Told by a reporter Heaps seems to be making the extra effort to connect with his offensive line and teammates, Golden responded: “He’s that kind of guy. Glad he’s here. Mature, grateful, and doing a great job trying to bring it all together for us.”

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The above is extremely bullish and demonstrates that Al Golden has a great eye for talent. If not for his decision to bring Heaps in the Canes would be in the unenviable position of possibly starting a freshmen at Louisville.

Follower Cane, why can't U make a post without mentioning other bloggers? Do U have that ability?

To be a Commander, U sure are proficient at taking orders. U all bark and no bite or content. Ice is in the sweet spot, its almost time for y'all ventriloquist gets exposed again.

Where's the: "Who wants some ICE" dude?

Golden did.

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Golden is playing checkers as usual 49-49.
ICE is playing chess!!!!!!!!!!! You'll see why he took the job.

Rabble, we may have trustee's with deep pockets but moron that doesn't mean they will spend the money on the athletic department especially the football program. If history is any indication, they will NOT on a consistent basis along the lines of the SEC, Pac 12, and Big Ten schools. Get your head out of your arse and look further than what you can see from the window of your tweaking room, U crackhead. That right there is a prime example of why everyone with any brains of course, know you are nothing but a fool.

What was dumb was extending Randy Shannon. Now that was moronic. Extending Al Golden had to be done to stabilize things and bring continuity to the program.

You know what?
These reporters beat these young kids up constantly. They never forget to let these kids know they made a mistake.
Case in point: "Senior receiver Rashawn Scott, suspended twice in his career by Golden, was wearing an orange jersey..."
So what! why every time you mention his name, you got to mention his suspensions?
These same reporters will kiss Al Golden's butt to get a story with a free pass as to why he can't solve FSU or any big game. None of you reporters are willing to print Golden's win/lose record in every story you write about our good ol Canes.

When you guys write your stories about the defensive side of the ball please be sure to mention that fans think D'Onofrio should have been let go already!

My point is these are kids. They're young people. Everybody makes mistakes and uses poor judgement sometimes. If you're going to give Golden and the adults a free pass--give the kids a pass now and then as well. Get off Scott! and let him focus on being a great player!

Tim Harris is an excellent addition to our football program. He is a great coach and recruiter. As pessimistic as I am by nature, I see a turnaround for the Miami football program starting this year. Won't happen in one season, but the trend will continue upward.

"The above is extremely bullish and demonstrates that Al Golden has a great eye for talent. If not for his decision to bring Heaps in the Canes would be in the unenviable position of possibly starting a freshmen at Louisville.

Posted by: Nothing But Dark Skies From Now On | August 07, 2014 at 09:33 PM
John Elway & Peyton Manning played as true Freshman. Chad Henne and Terrelle Pryor too.
I don't care how talented you are, the more snaps you get in game experience the more talented you'll become, bottom line!
Again, if I were you, I'd wait and see what happens in live game action before you bet the farm!

Hey! Dark Skies, we're not in Kansas anymore!

One more thing.....
Golden always has high praise for whatever the flavor of the month.

Can't wait for Ryan Williams to heal. Oh! don't remember his high praise? been that long ago?

There might be a very small group of fervent, impassioned fans in Miami that's ever heard of a QB named Heaps prior to his arrival on campus.

My point is if he were all that and a bag of chips we'd already know.

His instructions are to pitch it and toss it short, nothing to cute!

It took Al Golden to give Tim Harris the opportunity he's been waiting for his whole life and worked so hard for and richly deserves...there's simply not big enough words to thank 'Big Al'!

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“God is good, you know?," Harris said Thursday after practice, his third day as UM's running backs coach. "He definitely sets things up for you when you least expect it, but if you do things the right way, you definitely get your blessings. It’s an awesome blessing and I’m so excited to be in the position that I’m in, and I’m running with it.

“This is something I’ve been waiting for my whole life, you know. The hard work that you put in doing things the right way at the high school level, developing young people and then to have an opportunity to be the running backs coach at the University of Miami, it’s a dream come true.”

@HTC

What it takes to be Commander is to have knowledge, conviction, and trust....

All of which you lack....you wouldn't make Latrine Private in my outfit boy....

You may return to your gameboy....dismissed!

Can't figure out why Golden was so testy with reporters about year by. He seemed agitated when he asked where the reporter got their info. Seemed a little weird for All to take the defensive like that. Not his style....


"The above is extremely bullish and demonstrates that Al Golden has a great eye for talent. If not for his decision to bring Heaps in the Canes would be in the unenviable position of possibly starting a freshmen at Louisville.

Posted by: Nothing But Blue Skies From Now On | August 07, 2014 at 09:33 PM

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John Elway & Peyton Manning played as true Freshman. Chad Henne and Terrelle Pryor too.

I don't care how talented you are, the more snaps you get in game experience the more talented you'll become, bottom line!
Again, if I were you, I'd wait and see what happens in live game action before you bet the farm!

Hey! Dark Skies, we're not in Kansas anymore!

Posted by: Rabblerouser | August 07, 2014 at 10:54 PM

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Rabble,

Okay, let's clean up your latest misinformation campaign...

My post voiced concerns that a true freshmen might have been forced to start in his first game ever on the college level away from home at Louisville.

Neither Elway or Manning started the first game they were eligible to play in as freshmen.

Elway, in 1979, played sparingly behind Stanford starter Turk Schonert; Manning, at Tennessee, became the freshman starter in 1994 after injuries to Jerry Colquitt and Todd Helton forced the Volunteers to play him.

Terrelle Pryor didn't start until his 4th game as a freshman.

Chad Henne did in fact start as a freshman, but his first game was at home against a completely inept Miami of Ohio team.

You're right, I'm not in Kansas anymore, but the real question is what far away planet are you transmitting from? My guess? Uranus!!!!

Rabble,

You will never be able to say that I didn't agree with you...your screen name fits you perfectly:

Merriam-Webster definition of Rabble:

"Ordinary people, especially when regarded as socially inferior or uncouth. The lowest class of people"


### UM badly needs Michael Wyche to play a lot at nose tackle, but his integration early in camp is being sidetracked somewhat by conditioning issues. Wyche is still spending a lot of his time on getting in shape. He has lost 10 pounds to get to 340, but UM coaches want him at 335.

"He's got a long way to go there," Al Golden said Wednesday evening.

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This is exactly why he had only solid offers by Arkansas St., Troy St., Wash. St. and us (and it's false that he was ever offered by the likes of Bama, Auburn and the turds). The classic underachiever that plays a few plays like a monster and then because he can no longer move due to the fact that he's out of shape, takes as many plays off and becomes a 330lb. stuck in the mud, bent over with hands on hips heaving and puking turnstile. But who knows, this JUCO transfer, now a Junior, might get in shape by the end of his Senior year.

Plain and simple, why isn't this kid, that's been committed for over 5 months, had everything that Miami offers to train in playing shape right now? Apologists, have at it, but it's all excuses. But the real answer is, this kid was coddled and knows he's all we have to play the Nose/DT and has coasted since he signed. That, and we don't have a roster full of likewise "talent" at DT after 4 years to create urgencey and work ethic. That is Coaching and development... or lack of it.

"He's got a long way to go there," ... "He knows it, but ... Al Golden said

Great, 3 weeks from the opener and "now" he gets and knows it ? I'm sick of seeing crap excuses like this time and time again.

and for the apologists that will go an a rant... go bang on a drum and kick rocks. There's no excuse for your excuses, excusing the continuing unexcused.

Posted by: Johnny C. | 08/07/2014 at 02:21 PM


agreed

Merriam-Webster definition of a Rabblerouser:
plural noun: rab·ble–rous·er
noun \ˈra-bəl-ˌrau̇-zər\

: a person who makes a group of people angry, excited, or violent (such as by giving speeches) especially in order to achieve a political or social goal; one that stirs up (as to hatred or jealousy) the masses of the people.

Dark Skies From Now On: Guess were I drive you ever night???
As usual you want half the story or half the truth!
A rabble is not the same as a Rabblerouser---please use your dictionary more accurately!

Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Dark Side!
You enjoy that Kool-Aid, buddy!

Merriam-Webster definition of a Rabblerouser:
plural noun: rab·ble–rous·er
noun \ˈra-bəl-ˌrau̇-zər\

: a person who is full of crap and has a brain the size of a pea-no offense meant to peas.

Been a fan for 30 yrs and after watching this little piece of video the HURRICANES D WILL NOT IMPROVE AGAIN, Wyche is taught to stand his ground and he did not slam Shane, 62 came over and knocked him, they teach the nose tackle to stay in the gap and just bulldoze..... IN A 3 - 4 THE NOSE TACKLE WILL HAVE TO FIGHT OFF 3 GUYS...... that's my friend is why we were dead last in the ACC making plays behind the line of scrimmage....WE WAS IN THE TOP 3 BEFORE GOLDEN AND NOCOACHD CAME..... 100% positive the D will not improve....

https://t.co/4t3JyhwOev ....

https://t.co/4t3JyhwOev here is the video where Wyche doesn't move forward one inch

Gotta agree that wye has had time to take the offer, sign up, start class, and bust ass to get in shape. Not great on that.

The last time we won 10 games or had double digit victories in a season was 2003.

There's the mandate: Win 10 games Coach. You decide.

clearly Kaaya is looking better than Heaps...Golden better let the best man play!

I'm rooting for Kaaya!
Not to start the season but at some point this year Kaaya has to get on the field. This guy didn't travel all the way from California to pull splinters. If a guy is recruiting the right QB candidates one should emerge.

Seantrel Henderson: "Down in Miami, it's not what went wrong, it's what I was actually doing as a player and as a student," Henderson said. "I was just maturing. At the same time, I was enjoying the fact that I came from Minnesota and that I was down in Miami. I was still young. I was still me. I was a kid. I was just trying to adjust to the work, adjust to not having my parents around, adjust to football being my job but in college."

The adjustment wasn't easy, and Henderson matured slower than most. He started at LT in the HOF game against the Giant's Jason Pierre-Paul and handled his business, takes all First team snaps at this time and is doing well.

So called Herald Sports reporters who can't wait to post a story about Blue & Figueroa may want to think about posting a feel good story once in a blue moon.

"feel good story once in a blue moon."

Feel good? This isn't a Mike James-type story. This is the High School All-American, Gatorade Offense Player of the Year who wasted years because he was lazy, entitled, and enjoyed smoking weed more than working on his game.

And now, when faced with the prospect of either earning more money then he ever dreamed or heading home to a 9-5 job does he "turn it on" and it has only been 1 game. That is feel good? He should get kudos because he overcame NOTHING but his own lack of motivation and entitlement to play well for 1/2 of a football game? That is the feel good?

Sorry, I am as big a Cane fan as exists but Seantrel Henderson does not go in the category of the Mike James/Rusty Medearis who overcame personal anguish/injury to persevere.

He goes in the category of the Ryan Moore and Willie Williams. All the talent in the world and just thrown down the garbage during the years at Miami.

Not a huge fan of SH. He does well in the NFL? Fine.

Post above nails it.

@ Follower Cane, your "outfit" is blind-following and murder to keep 12 families rich.

Zero props here as U bring that same zombie mentality to every aspect of your life.

Just waiting for your latest summary of whats been written above, *followed* (of course) by who U don't like--also known as--your only sense of identity.

Yep Seantrel was a wasted talent, who just wanted to party and float by, 'adjust not having my parents around', ALL the players have to do that, and MOST college kids, so that tells me he was just very immature.

Posted by: Rabblerouser | August 08, 2014 at 09:05 AM

Great post!

#Canes do you assume players talent level? Willie Williams and Ryan Moore never produced on the college level. The top talent in high school plays against many that are future non-collegiate players. Until you factor into the highlights you see the talent a player is against. You will often come to the wrong conclusions.

Not all players are truly can't miss. Some get overblown by adults that don't judge talent properly. Some get coached by Al Golden and not properly developed. While some get properly developed and are able to go to the NFL.

Yep, thats exactly what SH is saying by, "adjust to not having my parents around", he took more time than others to mature. He is being contrite--whats the issue?

Is humility a deficiency? He is ballin like most Canes post UM, that should be our issue as Canes fans.

I'm confident in Ice being able to handle the rb's, and also recruiting. One of our BEST moves hands down when we added him to our staff. Whoever starts at qb, if he just manages and lets the horses help him, we should be ok, until someone steps to the forefront. Now who that'll be is anybody's guess. I hope it's one of the younger guys, BK, Olsen or Malik, simply because we need to get the future going NOW!!

The fervor and zeal to ball while at UM is lagging. I wonder why and where the kids have picked up this culture change? UM administration?

Seems they've learned to be opportunists. How is SH a wasted talent when he is in the running to be the Bills starting LT. And if he keeps performing like that against Pro Bowlers he'll be a very rich man.

The fervor and zeal to ball while at UM is lagging. I wonder why and where the kids have picked up this culture change? UM administration?
Seems they've learned to be opportunists. How is SH a wasted talent when he is in the running to be the Bills starting LT. And if he keeps performing like that against Pro Bowlers he'll be a very rich man.
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He was a wasted talent in college and he may be doing that in the NFL, but sure as hell didn't do it in college. All those interviews saying 'I've changed, and grown up, and realize this is my last chance to prove myself', yeah he almost proved himself right out of any chance at all to be a pro. He was lazy, and maybe he's FINALLY awoken to the real world.

Looks like another top player that was brought to Miami by that lesser paid and so-called lesser coach than Al Golden. How many NFL players are there now that were here and among the so-called lesser players when Al Golden got the job? With my local Jacksonville Jaguars' adding three to their total of four Hurricanes' ever this year. All three so-called lesser players when Al Golden came to Miami.

Buuuuuuuuut he is awake now, so give him his props as an ex-Cane. His life and abilities are more than how much they can benefit U as a fan of UM. U lazy, he is out busting his butt playing NFL football and U are here posting on MH blog. U aren't perfect, thats his life, he'll awaken when its time to. He started numerous games for UM and wasn't bad at all, grading out at the top of o-linemen every game he played in. Stop letting articles dictate your feelings about people. U don't know that man.

He was a wasted talent in college and he may be doing that in the NFL, but sure as hell didn't do it in college. All those interviews saying 'I've changed, and grown up, and realize this is my last chance to prove myself', yeah he almost proved himself right out of any chance at all to be a pro. He was lazy, and maybe he's FINALLY awoken to the real world.

Posted by: Cola Cane | August 08, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Some of guys need some extra time, have to take some lumps before we get out of our own way.
It's not like he was out committing felonies, punching women, or brawling at the local night spot!
Coaching in my opinion is more than recruiting and X's & O's--sometimes you must be able to reach guys, to relate to guys and obviously not everyone has that ability as a strong suit.

The top story here on the blog today AGAIN mentions Blue & Figueroa being "booted" from the team. There hasn't been 1 story yet about the guys who moved on to the NFL from last year's team currently in training camp. There's been Blue and Figueroa, Blue and Figueroa, Blue and Figueroa, Blue and Figueroa--All summer long! Every player on the team has a relative, friend, or neighbor, someone they know--who's experienced some rough patches--whether alcohol & drugs, crime, poverty, some type of adversity to succumb to or triumph over and these reporters and coaches, you and I, are no different.
I hope the guy overcomes all his problems and has a great career, afterall---he will always be a Hurricane.

I hope the guy overcomes all his problems and has a great career, afterall---he will always be a Hurricane.
Posted by: Rabblerouser
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I'm not saying I don't want the guy to do good in the NFL, and I know he wasn't a felon, I just wish he'd have gave more when he was here. He may turn out to be a future HOF'er, just would've been nice for him to have done that as a Cane is all. I also agree we need stories about the guys who are fighting for spots in the NFL, which just shows that we may not have had a 1st rounder in a while, but we still load up the pro's from NFL U!!

Wait a moment, aren't there apologists that continually post that support for the players is the mission? While complaining that some objective posters are not doing that. Looking at the last two previous posters, they are the true players supporters. While the most recent staunch poster, and apologist, is condemning this young man the greatest.

Apologists, you are the downfall of the greatest football program ever. Just as much as Al Golden, his hiring boss Kirby Hocutt, and the administration that puts all this failure in place.

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